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"Rob Wade" |
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02 Dec 2003 06:29:02 PM |
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'Bible as hate speech' bill passes |
'Bible as hate speech' bill passes
Sponsor: 'It's been a good week for equality in Canada'
By Art Moore
WorldNetDaily.com
Canada's House of Commons passed a controversial bill yesterday
opposed by religious believers and free-speech advocates who say it
will criminalize public expression against homosexual behavior.
The bill, passed 141-110, adds sexual orientation as a protected
category in Canada's genocide and hate-crimes legislation, which
carries a penalty of up to five years in prison.
Svend Robinson
"It's been a good week for equality in Canada," said the bill's
sponsor, Svend Robinson, an openly homosexual member of Parliament.
The vote came just a day after MPs narrowly defeated a nonbinding
motion reaffirming marriage is between a man and woman only.
As WorldNetDaily reported, opponents fear if Robinson's bill becomes
law, the Bible will be deemed "hate literature" under the criminal
code in certain instances, as evidenced by the case of a Saskatchewan
man fined by a provincial human-rights tribunal for taking out a
newspaper ad with Scripture references to verses about homosexuality.
"I was not surprised it passed, because we have a morally bankrupt
government which cannot see past its bizarre liberal ideology," Brian
Rushfeldt, executive director of the Canada Family Action Coalition,
told WorldNetDaily.
The bill now goes to the Senate, which usually rubber stamps the
House's legislation. Rushfeldt said he hopes the Senate will at least
debate the issue and bring up "inherent dangers" in the bill not
discussed in the House, but thinks that is not likely.
The legislation then is signed into law by the governor general, who
represents the queen.
Robinson insisted an amendment protects religious expression, but
opponents note recent court cases in which judges have favored
homosexual rights when they clash with the rights of religious
believers.
Some members of Parliament called it a "dangerous" law that muzzles
free speech, including Liberal Party member John McKay, who dubbed it
a "chill bill."
"Anybody who has views on homosexuality that differ from Svend
Robinson's will be exposed rather dramatically to the joys of the
Criminal Code," he said, according to the Edmonton Sun.
Rushfeldt contends one of the law's dangers is the term "sexual
orientation" is not defined. He noted the American Psychiatric
Association lists 24 behaviors under "sexual orientation." They
include polygamy, bestiality and pedophilia.
"So if in fact the term does include pedophilia, the law protects it
[from 'hate speech']," he said.
Robinson said fears that freedom of speech and religion will suffer
are "a mask for homophobia for people who don't want to be honest
about the real reason why they don't want to include sexual
orientation in the law," according to the Toronto Globe and Mail.
He said he regularly receives hateful e-mails, the Toronto paper said,
and his Burnaby, B.C., office was trashed in 1988 when he became
Canada's first openly homosexual member of Parliament.
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05 Dec 2003 04:06:59 AM |
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(Rob Wade) wrote in message news:<69aa2c4.0312021629.75b9bf0@posting.google.com>...
'Bible as hate speech' bill passes
Sponsor: 'It's been a good week for equality in Canada'
By Art Moore
WorldNetDaily.com
Canada's House of Commons passed a controversial bill yesterday
opposed by religious believers and free-speech advocates who say it
will criminalize public expression against homosexual behavior.
Given that this is from WingNutDaily and not a real
news agency, the veracity of free speech groups
being against the law should be verified.
As WorldNetDaily reported, opponents fear if Robinson's bill becomes
law, the Bible will be deemed "hate literature" under the criminal
code in certain instances, as evidenced by the case of a Saskatchewan
man fined by a provincial human-rights tribunal for taking out a
newspaper ad with Scripture references to verses about homosexuality.
And its references to women, to non-jews, to money
lenders, to the rich....
"I was not surprised it passed, because we have a morally bankrupt
government which cannot see past its bizarre liberal ideology," Brian
Rushfeldt, executive director of the Canada Family Action Coalition,
told WorldNetDaily.
Rushfeldt? Sounds like a hybrid of Limbaugh and
the (other) Donald. Maybe they're closet queens....
The bill now goes to the Senate, which usually rubber stamps the
House's legislation.
Not necessarily in this case. The senate is still
stacked with political payoff appointments by
Lyin Baloney...I mean, Brian Mulroney. It's full
of right wingers, though many are not as rabid
as some in the god squad.
Robinson insisted an amendment protects religious expression, but
opponents note recent court cases in which judges have favored
homosexual rights when they clash with the rights of religious
believers.
Making out is more believable than the made up.
"Anybody who has views on homosexuality that differ from Svend
Robinson's will be exposed rather dramatically to the joys of the
Criminal Code," he said, according to the Edmonton Sun.
Of course he's from Edmonton. Alberta is the
bible belt and mor(m)on hellhole of Canada.
Rushfeldt contends one of the law's dangers is the term "sexual
orientation" is not defined. He noted the American Psychiatric
Association lists 24 behaviors under "sexual orientation." They
include polygamy, bestiality and pedophilia.
"So if in fact the term does include pedophilia, the law protects it
[from 'hate speech']," he said.
"No, I'm not inferring that gays are paedophiles,"
Rushfeldt said later, "I'm saying it outright."
He said he regularly receives hateful e-mails, the Toronto paper said,
and his Burnaby, B.C., office was trashed in 1988 when he became
Canada's first openly homosexual member of Parliament.
His offices have been the targets of vandalism and
attempted arson over the years.
Bob Dog
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12 Dec 2003 03:53:08 PM |
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In article <69aa2c4.0312021629.75b9bf0@posting.google.com>,
rob_c_wade2@yahoo.com (Rob Wade) wrote:
'Bible as hate speech' bill passes
Sponsor: 'It's been a good week for equality in Canada'
By Art Moore
WorldNetDaily.com
Canada's House of Commons passed a controversial bill yesterday
opposed by religious believers and free-speech advocates who say it
will criminalize public expression against homosexual behavior.
The bill, passed 141-110, adds sexual orientation as a protected
category in Canada's genocide and hate-crimes legislation, which
carries a penalty of up to five years in prison.
From those remaining in the 'free world' where politically free speech is
mandatory as an inalienable right from the Creator, good bye Canada.
Svend Robinson
"It's been a good week for equality in Canada," said the bill's
sponsor, Svend Robinson, an openly homosexual member of Parliament.
The vote came just a day after MPs narrowly defeated a nonbinding
motion reaffirming marriage is between a man and woman only.
As WorldNetDaily reported, opponents fear if Robinson's bill becomes
law, the Bible will be deemed "hate literature" under the criminal
code in certain instances, as evidenced by the case of a Saskatchewan
man fined by a provincial human-rights tribunal for taking out a
newspaper ad with Scripture references to verses about homosexuality.
"I was not surprised it passed, because we have a morally bankrupt
government which cannot see past its bizarre liberal ideology," Brian
Rushfeldt, executive director of the Canada Family Action Coalition,
told WorldNetDaily.
The bill now goes to the Senate, which usually rubber stamps the
House's legislation. Rushfeldt said he hopes the Senate will at least
debate the issue and bring up "inherent dangers" in the bill not
discussed in the House, but thinks that is not likely.
The legislation then is signed into law by the governor general, who
represents the queen.
Robinson insisted an amendment protects religious expression, but
opponents note recent court cases in which judges have favored
homosexual rights when they clash with the rights of religious
believers.
Some members of Parliament called it a "dangerous" law that muzzles
free speech, including Liberal Party member John McKay, who dubbed it
a "chill bill."
"Anybody who has views on homosexuality that differ from Svend
Robinson's will be exposed rather dramatically to the joys of the
Criminal Code," he said, according to the Edmonton Sun.
Rushfeldt contends one of the law's dangers is the term "sexual
orientation" is not defined. He noted the American Psychiatric
Association lists 24 behaviors under "sexual orientation." They
include polygamy, bestiality and pedophilia.
"So if in fact the term does include pedophilia, the law protects it
[from 'hate speech']," he said.
Robinson said fears that freedom of speech and religion will suffer
are "a mask for homophobia for people who don't want to be honest
about the real reason why they don't want to include sexual
orientation in the law," according to the Toronto Globe and Mail.
He said he regularly receives hateful e-mails, the Toronto paper said,
and his Burnaby, B.C., office was trashed in 1988 when he became
Canada's first openly homosexual member of Parliament.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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12 Dec 2003 11:10:52 PM |
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On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 21:53:08 GMT, (Michael)
posted in alt.atheism:
In article <69aa2c4.0312021629.75b9bf0@posting.google.com>,
rob_c_wade2@yahoo.com (Rob Wade) wrote:
The bill, passed 141-110, adds sexual orientation as a protected
category in Canada's genocide and hate-crimes legislation, which
carries a penalty of up to five years in prison.
From those remaining in the 'free world' where politically free speech is
mandatory as an inalienable right from the Creator, good bye Canada.
Yes, freedom to be a bigot still reigns in the US.
--
"I believe in Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the harmony of all that exists, but
not in a God who concerns himself with the fate and actions of human beings."
-A. Einstein (1929 -- Einstein Archive 33-272)
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
rukbat at optonline dot net
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| User: "Michael" |
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| Title: Re: 'Bible as hate speech' bill passes |
16 Dec 2003 08:32:24 AM |
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In article <mp7ltv8dhu1nr1tr6nu0u94nq24puhbqd6@Pern.rk>,
ehxong@bcgbayvar.arg wrote:
On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 21:53:08 GMT, (Michael)
posted in alt.atheism:
In article <69aa2c4.0312021629.75b9bf0@posting.google.com>,
rob_c_wade2@yahoo.com (Rob Wade) wrote:
The bill, passed 141-110, adds sexual orientation as a protected
category in Canada's genocide and hate-crimes legislation, which
carries a penalty of up to five years in prison.
From those remaining in the 'free world' where politically free speech is
mandatory as an inalienable right from the Creator, good bye Canada.
Yes, freedom to be a bigot still reigns in the US.
But freedom to be a Christophobe is purely Canadian.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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17 Dec 2003 03:47:17 PM |
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On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 14:32:24 GMT, (Michael)
posted in alt.atheism:
In article <mp7ltv8dhu1nr1tr6nu0u94nq24puhbqd6@Pern.rk>,
ehxong@bcgbayvar.arg wrote:
On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 21:53:08 GMT, (Michael)
posted in alt.atheism:
In article <69aa2c4.0312021629.75b9bf0@posting.google.com>,
rob_c_wade2@yahoo.com (Rob Wade) wrote:
The bill, passed 141-110, adds sexual orientation as a protected
category in Canada's genocide and hate-crimes legislation, which
carries a penalty of up to five years in prison.
From those remaining in the 'free world' where politically free speech is
mandatory as an inalienable right from the Creator, good bye Canada.
Yes, freedom to be a bigot still reigns in the US.
But freedom to be a Christophobe is purely Canadian.
No, freedom to be sane exists in the US too.
--
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious
conviction."
- Blaise Pascal (1623-1662)
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
rukbat at optonline dot net
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| User: "Michael" |
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22 Dec 2003 04:30:41 PM |
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In article <qmj1uvgvjt0ajeejsshnsqsas2cusmevc9@Pern.rk>,
ehxong@bcgbayvar.arg wrote:
On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 14:32:24 GMT, (Michael)
posted in alt.atheism:
In article <mp7ltv8dhu1nr1tr6nu0u94nq24puhbqd6@Pern.rk>,
ehxong@bcgbayvar.arg wrote:
On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 21:53:08 GMT, (Michael)
posted in alt.atheism:
In article <69aa2c4.0312021629.75b9bf0@posting.google.com>,
rob_c_wade2@yahoo.com (Rob Wade) wrote:
The bill, passed 141-110, adds sexual orientation as a protected
category in Canada's genocide and hate-crimes legislation, which
carries a penalty of up to five years in prison.
From those remaining in the 'free world' where politically free speech is
mandatory as an inalienable right from the Creator, good bye Canada.
Yes, freedom to be a bigot still reigns in the US.
But freedom to be a Christophobe is purely Canadian.
No, freedom to be sane exists in the US too.
IOW, freedom to be a Christophobe bigot is legal in Canada?
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| User: "ArWeGod" |
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03 Dec 2003 04:32:57 AM |
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Rob Wade" <rob_c_wade2@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:69aa2c4.0312021629.75b9bf0@posting.google.com...
'Bible as hate speech' bill passes
Sponsor: 'It's been a good week for equality in Canada'
By Art Moore
WorldNetDaily.com
Canada's House of Commons passed a controversial bill yesterday
opposed by religious believers and free-speech advocates who say it
will criminalize public expression against homosexual behavior.
The bill, passed 141-110, adds sexual orientation as a protected
category in Canada's genocide and hate-crimes legislation, which
carries a penalty of up to five years in prison.
Svend Robinson
"It's been a good week for equality in Canada," said the bill's
sponsor, Svend Robinson, an openly homosexual member of Parliament.
The vote came just a day after MPs narrowly defeated a nonbinding
motion reaffirming marriage is between a man and woman only.
As WorldNetDaily reported, opponents fear if Robinson's bill becomes
law, the Bible will be deemed "hate literature" under the criminal
code in certain instances, as evidenced by the case of a Saskatchewan
man fined by a provincial human-rights tribunal for taking out a
newspaper ad with Scripture references to verses about homosexuality.
"I was not surprised it passed, because we have a morally bankrupt
government which cannot see past its bizarre liberal ideology," Brian
Rushfeldt, executive director of the Canada Family Action Coalition,
told WorldNetDaily.
The bill now goes to the Senate, which usually rubber stamps the
House's legislation. Rushfeldt said he hopes the Senate will at least
debate the issue and bring up "inherent dangers" in the bill not
discussed in the House, but thinks that is not likely.
The legislation then is signed into law by the governor general, who
represents the queen.
Robinson insisted an amendment protects religious expression, but
opponents note recent court cases in which judges have favored
homosexual rights when they clash with the rights of religious
believers.
Some members of Parliament called it a "dangerous" law that muzzles
free speech, including Liberal Party member John McKay, who dubbed it
a "chill bill."
"Anybody who has views on homosexuality that differ from Svend
Robinson's will be exposed rather dramatically to the joys of the
Criminal Code," he said, according to the Edmonton Sun.
Rushfeldt contends one of the law's dangers is the term "sexual
orientation" is not defined. He noted the American Psychiatric
Association lists 24 behaviors under "sexual orientation." They
include polygamy, bestiality and pedophilia.
"So if in fact the term does include pedophilia, the law protects it
[from 'hate speech']," he said.
Robinson said fears that freedom of speech and religion will suffer
are "a mask for homophobia for people who don't want to be honest
about the real reason why they don't want to include sexual
orientation in the law," according to the Toronto Globe and Mail.
He said he regularly receives hateful e-mails, the Toronto paper said,
and his Burnaby, B.C., office was trashed in 1988 when he became
Canada's first openly homosexual member of Parliament.
First they stop me beating up niggers, now they want to stop me beating up
faggots? What the ***** am I gonna do when the wife's "too tired" (ie: in the
hospital)?! Can I still kick an Eskimo?
Next they'll stop me drowning kittens...
What the Hell am I supposed to do for FUN?!! I might as well give up
drinking altogether!
-ArWeBarbarians
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| User: "the cutest atheist" |
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03 Dec 2003 07:29:13 PM |
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"ArWeGod" <ArWeGod?@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:tZizb.32012$9h4.28494@newssvr29.news.prodigy.com...
Rob Wade" <rob_c_wade2@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:69aa2c4.0312021629.75b9bf0@posting.google.com...
'Bible as hate speech' bill passes
Sponsor: 'It's been a good week for equality in Canada'
By Art Moore
WorldNetDaily.com
Canada's House of Commons passed a controversial bill yesterday
opposed by religious believers and free-speech advocates who say it
will criminalize public expression against homosexual behavior.
The bill, passed 141-110, adds sexual orientation as a protected
category in Canada's genocide and hate-crimes legislation, which
carries a penalty of up to five years in prison.
Svend Robinson
"It's been a good week for equality in Canada," said the bill's
sponsor, Svend Robinson, an openly homosexual member of Parliament.
The vote came just a day after MPs narrowly defeated a nonbinding
motion reaffirming marriage is between a man and woman only.
As WorldNetDaily reported, opponents fear if Robinson's bill becomes
law, the Bible will be deemed "hate literature" under the criminal
code in certain instances, as evidenced by the case of a Saskatchewan
man fined by a provincial human-rights tribunal for taking out a
newspaper ad with Scripture references to verses about homosexuality.
"I was not surprised it passed, because we have a morally bankrupt
government which cannot see past its bizarre liberal ideology," Brian
Rushfeldt, executive director of the Canada Family Action Coalition,
told WorldNetDaily.
The bill now goes to the Senate, which usually rubber stamps the
House's legislation. Rushfeldt said he hopes the Senate will at least
debate the issue and bring up "inherent dangers" in the bill not
discussed in the House, but thinks that is not likely.
The legislation then is signed into law by the governor general, who
represents the queen.
Robinson insisted an amendment protects religious expression, but
opponents note recent court cases in which judges have favored
homosexual rights when they clash with the rights of religious
believers.
Some members of Parliament called it a "dangerous" law that muzzles
free speech, including Liberal Party member John McKay, who dubbed it
a "chill bill."
"Anybody who has views on homosexuality that differ from Svend
Robinson's will be exposed rather dramatically to the joys of the
Criminal Code," he said, according to the Edmonton Sun.
Rushfeldt contends one of the law's dangers is the term "sexual
orientation" is not defined. He noted the American Psychiatric
Association lists 24 behaviors under "sexual orientation." They
include polygamy, bestiality and pedophilia.
"So if in fact the term does include pedophilia, the law protects it
[from 'hate speech']," he said.
Robinson said fears that freedom of speech and religion will suffer
are "a mask for homophobia for people who don't want to be honest
about the real reason why they don't want to include sexual
orientation in the law," according to the Toronto Globe and Mail.
He said he regularly receives hateful e-mails, the Toronto paper said,
and his Burnaby, B.C., office was trashed in 1988 when he became
Canada's first openly homosexual member of Parliament.
First they stop me beating up niggers, now they want to stop me beating up
faggots? What the ***** am I gonna do when the wife's "too tired" (ie: in
the
hospital)?! Can I still kick an Eskimo?
Next they'll stop me drowning kittens...
What the Hell am I supposed to do for FUN?!! I might as well give up
drinking altogether!
lol! are you canadian?
-ArWeBarbarians
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03 Dec 2003 08:46:42 PM |
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"the cutest atheist" <herdofnerd(remove)@hotmail.com> writes:
"ArWeGod" <ArWeGod?@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:tZizb.32012$9h4.28494@newssvr29.news.prodigy.com...
<snip>
lol! are you canadian?
SBC is the company that owns the telephone service in California and
elsewhere in the U.S., so he is probably not Canadian. Besides, he
didn't end each sentence in a perfunctory "ehe" and Canadians would
never offer to forgo a glass of Molson's. (Sp?)
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04 Dec 2003 03:28:07 PM |
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SBC is the company that owns the telephone service in California and
elsewhere in the U.S., so he is probably not Canadian. Besides, he
didn't end each sentence in a perfunctory "ehe" and Canadians would
never offer to forgo a glass of Molson's. (Sp?)
No TRUE Canadian would ever drink beer out of a glass!! Sheesh!
Rich Goranson, Amherst, NY, USA (aa#MCMXCIX, a-vet#1)
EAC Department of Applied Rattan Use
"Without faith we might relapse into scientific or rational thinking, which
leads by a slippery slope toward constitutional democracy." - Robert Anton
Wilson
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| User: "The Mad Doctor" |
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04 Dec 2003 10:51:49 PM |
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On 04 Dec 2003 21:28:07 GMT, forlornh@aol.complex (Lord Calvert)
wrote:
SBC is the company that owns the telephone service in California and
elsewhere in the U.S., so he is probably not Canadian. Besides, he
didn't end each sentence in a perfunctory "ehe" and Canadians would
never offer to forgo a glass of Molson's. (Sp?)
Hey, hoser that's eh, eh
and it's not Canada, eh, it's Cnd, spell it with me, C, eh, N, eh, D,
eh
No TRUE Canadian would ever drink beer out of a glass!! Sheesh!
You should see the latest I am Canadian astronaut commercial, the
american astronaut waas such a hoser, the canadian gave him a beer,
eh, and he tries to drink it through his helmet. That's almost as bad
as a coffee sandwich, eh.
Grant Kinsley, eh
Rich Goranson, Amherst, NY, USA (aa#MCMXCIX, a-vet#1)
EAC Department of Applied Rattan Use
"Without faith we might relapse into scientific or rational thinking, which
leads by a slippery slope toward constitutional democracy." - Robert Anton
Wilson
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| User: "Erica" |
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04 Dec 2003 11:55:05 PM |
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forlornh@aol.complex (Lord Calvert) wrote in message news:<20031204162807.01554.00000117@mb-m20.aol.com>...
SBC is the company that owns the telephone service in California and
elsewhere in the U.S., so he is probably not Canadian. Besides, he
didn't end each sentence in a perfunctory "ehe" and Canadians would
never offer to forgo a glass of Molson's. (Sp?)
No TRUE Canadian would ever drink beer out of a glass!! Sheesh!
Rich Goranson, Amherst, NY, USA (aa#MCMXCIX, a-vet#1)
EAC Department of Applied Rattan Use
"Without faith we might relapse into scientific or rational thinking, which
leads by a slippery slope toward constitutional democracy." - Robert Anton
Wilson
No kidding! Hey, I figure it comes in a glass bottle for a reason.
There's yer glass. Drink up.
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| User: "Randy Day" |
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03 Dec 2003 07:54:54 PM |
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the cutest atheist wrote:
[snip]
First they stop me beating up niggers, now they want to stop me beating up
faggots? What the ***** am I gonna do when the wife's "too tired" (ie: in
the
hospital)?! Can I still kick an Eskimo?
Next they'll stop me drowning kittens...
What the Hell am I supposed to do for FUN?!! I might as well give up
drinking altogether!
lol! are you canadian?
And just *what* is THAT supposed to mean?
<leans on dogsled, toe tapping expectantly>
;)
R
Atheist Chair,
EAC Disciplinary Committee
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| User: "the cutest atheist" |
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03 Dec 2003 08:24:10 PM |
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"Randy Day" <ruthal@sasktel.nex> wrote in message
news:3FCE93EE.7924A2C2@sasktel.nex...
the cutest atheist wrote:
[snip]
First they stop me beating up niggers, now they want to stop me
beating up
faggots? What the ***** am I gonna do when the wife's "too tired" (ie:
in
the
hospital)?! Can I still kick an Eskimo?
Next they'll stop me drowning kittens...
What the Hell am I supposed to do for FUN?!! I might as well give up
drinking altogether!
lol! are you canadian?
And just *what* is THAT supposed to mean?
<leans on dogsled, toe tapping expectantly>
;)
just wondering, for stalking purposes. I *like* canadians. they never fail
to hit on me when I meet them. that speaks volumes in their favour, if you
ask me ;)
I'm a big fan of the degrassi series. grew up with it. am still growing up
with it...
R
Atheist Chair,
EAC Disciplinary Committee
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| User: "Randy Day" |
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03 Dec 2003 08:51:26 PM |
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the cutest atheist wrote:
[snip]
just wondering, for stalking purposes. I *like* canadians. they never fail
to hit on me when I meet them. that speaks volumes in their favour, if you
ask me ;)
Well if we ever meet, I'll be sure to continue the
tradition! :)
I'm a big fan of the degrassi series. grew up with it. am still growing up
with it...
Never watched it. Does that mean I've failed my
country? :(
R
Atheist Chair,
EAC Disciplinary Committee
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| User: "the cutest atheist" |
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| Title: Re: 'Bible as hate speech' bill passes |
03 Dec 2003 10:53:05 PM |
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"Randy Day" <ruthal@sasktel.nex> wrote in message
news:3FCEA12E.D651F07E@sasktel.nex...
the cutest atheist wrote:
[snip]
just wondering, for stalking purposes. I *like* canadians. they never
fail
to hit on me when I meet them. that speaks volumes in their favour, if
you
ask me ;)
Well if we ever meet, I'll be sure to continue the
tradition! :)
I was hoping you'd say that!
I'm a big fan of the degrassi series. grew up with it. am still growing
up
with it...
Never watched it. Does that mean I've failed my
country? :(
yes it does
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| User: "Bill, The Avender" |
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04 Dec 2003 05:47:27 PM |
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In alt.atheism on Thu, 04 Dec 2003 04:53:05 GMT, "the cutest atheist"
<herdofnerd(remove)@hotmail.com> wrote:
"Randy Day" <ruthal@sasktel.nex> wrote in message
news:3FCEA12E.D651F07E@sasktel.nex...
the cutest atheist wrote:
[snip]
just wondering, for stalking purposes. I *like* canadians. they never
fail
to hit on me when I meet them. that speaks volumes in their favour, if
you
ask me ;)
Well if we ever meet, I'll be sure to continue the
tradition! :)
I was hoping you'd say that!
Attention *****. I _knew_ there was something I liked about you. ;-)
Unfortunately, as I'm neither Canadian nor neither even remotely
straight nor bi, I can promise to hit on you, possibly even
believably, but that's about as far as it could ever go. ;-)
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L8r,
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| User: "the cutest atheist" |
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| Title: Re: 'Bible as hate speech' bill passes |
05 Dec 2003 05:27:25 AM |
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"Bill, The Avender" <Avender@SpamMeNot.com> wrote in message
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In alt.atheism on Thu, 04 Dec 2003 04:53:05 GMT, "the cutest atheist"
<herdofnerd(remove)@hotmail.com> wrote:
"Randy Day" <ruthal@sasktel.nex> wrote in message
news:3FCEA12E.D651F07E@sasktel.nex...
the cutest atheist wrote:
[snip]
just wondering, for stalking purposes. I *like* canadians. they never
fail
to hit on me when I meet them. that speaks volumes in their favour,
if
you
ask me ;)
Well if we ever meet, I'll be sure to continue the
tradition! :)
I was hoping you'd say that!
Attention *****. I _knew_ there was something I liked about you. ;-)
Unfortunately, as I'm neither Canadian nor neither even remotely
straight nor bi, I can promise to hit on you, possibly even
believably, but that's about as far as it could ever go. ;-)
well, I suppose I can forgive you, ***** is pretty alluring
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| User: "Dale Darrel Waltrip Richard Petty Rusty Awesome Bill Gordon Earnhardt Smith Johnson...Junior" |
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| Title: Re: 'Bible as hate speech' bill passes |
22 Dec 2003 02:48:46 PM |
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"ArWeGod" <ArWeGod?@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:<tZizb.32012$9h4.28494@newssvr29.news.prodigy.com>...
First they stop me beating up niggers, now they want to stop me beating up
faggots? What the ***** am I gonna do when the wife's "too tired" (ie: in the
hospital)?! Can I still kick an Eskimo?
Next they'll stop me drowning kittens...
What the Hell am I supposed to do for FUN?!! I might as well give up
drinking altogether!
Don't give the health nazis any ideas! :)
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| User: "Light Templar" |
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| Title: Re: 'Bible as hate speech' bill passes |
22 Dec 2003 05:49:18 PM |
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"Dale Darrel Waltrip Richard Petty Rusty Awesome Bill Gordon Earnhardt Smith
Johnson...Junior" <anticorpoutlaw@msn.com> wrote in message
news:75ffe67b.0312221248.793f5258@posting.google.com...
"ArWeGod" <ArWeGod?@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:<tZizb.32012$9h4.28494@newssvr29.news.prodigy.com>...
First they stop me beating up niggers, now they want to stop me beating
up
faggots? What the ***** am I gonna do when the wife's "too tired" (ie: in
the
hospital)?! Can I still kick an Eskimo?
Next they'll stop me drowning kittens...
What the Hell am I supposed to do for FUN?!! I might as well give up
drinking altogether!
Don't give the health nazis any ideas! :)
From everything I've been reading lately, one or two drinks a day is
actually beneficial, health wise. Just
don't drive in pursuit of your health. :c)
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| User: "Dale Darrel Waltrip Richard Petty Rusty Awesome Bill Gordon Earnhardt Smith Johnson...Junior" |
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| Title: Re: 'Bible as hate speech' bill passes |
23 Dec 2003 09:21:47 PM |
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"Light Templar" <I@DONTACCEPTEMAIL.FAM> wrote in message news:<2qLFb.2093$lo3.2019@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>...
"Dale Darrel Waltrip Richard Petty Rusty Awesome Bill Gordon Earnhardt Smith
Johnson...Junior" <anticorpoutlaw@msn.com> wrote in message
news:75ffe67b.0312221248.793f5258@posting.google.com...
"ArWeGod" <ArWeGod?@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:<tZizb.32012$9h4.28494@newssvr29.news.prodigy.com>...
First they stop me beating up niggers, now they want to stop me beating
up
faggots? What the ***** am I gonna do when the wife's "too tired" (ie: in
the
hospital)?! Can I still kick an Eskimo?
Next they'll stop me drowning kittens...
What the Hell am I supposed to do for FUN?!! I might as well give up
drinking altogether!
Don't give the health nazis any ideas! :)
From everything I've been reading lately, one or two drinks a day is
actually beneficial, health wise. Just
don't drive in pursuit of your health. :c)
I'm aware of the health benefits of one or two drinks, but there are
some kooks associated with the CSPI who basically want a
neo-Prohibition. I think there are some of those kooks actually
calling for zero-tolerance DUI laws (meaning one sip = legally drunk)
for all drivers, including adults. I am sure that within 10 years, a
parent will have their children taken away by CPS for the mere
presence of any alcoholic beverage in their own home, whether or not
it is kept in an area where children can't get to it (as in a liquor
locker).
There are also some health benefits from eating certain meats, but
radical groups like PETA and the ALF want forced vegetarianism to be
the norm here in the US of A. If somebody wants to be a vegetarian, I
am okay with that. What I am NOT okay with is these radicals trying to
force me to conform to their standards. There are only two logical
answers : Either we live in a free society where people can CHOOSE to
be vegetarian or not be vegetarian, or we live in a totalitarian
society where people are FORCED to be vegetarian. The day America
becomes totalitarian is the day that I say goodbye to America.
And speaking of meats, I am sure that PETA is already calling for an
immediate ban on all red meat in America due to the Mad Cow case in
Washington state.
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| User: "Light Templar" |
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| Title: Re: 'Bible as hate speech' bill passes |
23 Dec 2003 09:37:07 PM |
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"Dale Darrel Waltrip Richard Petty Rusty Awesome Bill Gordon Earnhardt Smith
Johnson...Junior" <anticorpoutlaw@msn.com> wrote in message
news:75ffe67b.0312231921.71c8fe4a@posting.google.com...
"Light Templar" <I@DONTACCEPTEMAIL.FAM> wrote in message
news:<2qLFb.2093$lo3.2019@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>...
"Dale Darrel Waltrip Richard Petty Rusty Awesome Bill Gordon Earnhardt
Smith
Johnson...Junior" <anticorpoutlaw@msn.com> wrote in message
news:75ffe67b.0312221248.793f5258@posting.google.com...
"ArWeGod" <ArWeGod?@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:<tZizb.32012$9h4.28494@newssvr29.news.prodigy.com>...
First they stop me beating up niggers, now they want to stop me
beating
up
faggots? What the ***** am I gonna do when the wife's "too tired"
(ie: in
the
hospital)?! Can I still kick an Eskimo?
Next they'll stop me drowning kittens...
What the Hell am I supposed to do for FUN?!! I might as well give up
drinking altogether!
Don't give the health nazis any ideas! :)
From everything I've been reading lately, one or two drinks a day is
actually beneficial, health wise. Just
don't drive in pursuit of your health. :c)
I'm aware of the health benefits of one or two drinks, but there are
some kooks associated with the CSPI who basically want a
neo-Prohibition.
Seems like we tried that once already, the results were... questionable at
best.
I think there are some of those kooks actually
calling for zero-tolerance DUI laws (meaning one sip = legally drunk)
for all drivers, including adults. I am sure that within 10 years, a
parent will have their children taken away by CPS for the mere
presence of any alcoholic beverage in their own home, whether or not
it is kept in an area where children can't get to it (as in a liquor
locker).
There are always going to be extremists, which is why you have to take them
down a peg or two every once in a while. As far as CPS, it's hard to get
them to do the job they're supposed to do, so I'm not sure that they present
much of a problem.
There are also some health benefits from eating certain meats, but
radical groups like PETA and the ALF want forced vegetarianism to be
the norm here in the US of A. If somebody wants to be a vegetarian, I
am okay with that. What I am NOT okay with is these radicals trying to
force me to conform to their standards. There are only two logical
answers : Either we live in a free society where people can CHOOSE to
be vegetarian or not be vegetarian, or we live in a totalitarian
society where people are FORCED to be vegetarian. The day America
becomes totalitarian is the day that I say goodbye to America.
And speaking of meats, I am sure that PETA is already calling for an
immediate ban on all red meat in America due to the Mad Cow case in
Washington state.
Nobody really takes PETA seriously anymore, not since they started using
bombs to make their point.
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| User: "American Civil Liberties Union of Texas" |
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| Title: Re: 'Bible as hate speech' bill passes |
24 Dec 2003 02:06:19 PM |
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When any religious text is used to trample on the civil rights of people,
it is hate speech. This is true in Canada and in most of Europe.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: 'Bible as hate speech' bill passes |
24 Dec 2003 11:03:25 PM |
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On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 20:06:19 GMT, "American Civil Liberties Union of
Texas" <info@aclutx.org> posted to alt.atheism:
When any religious text is used to trample on the civil rights of people,
it is hate speech. This is true in Canada and in most of Europe.
It's just true. That it's not law in some countries doesn't make it
less true.
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"I cannot conceive of a God who rewards and punishes his creatures, or has a will of the
type of which we are conscious in ourselves. An individual who should survive his
physical death is also beyond my comprehension,...; such notions are for the fears or
absurd egoism of feeble souls."
- Albert Einstein
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
rukbat at optonline dot net
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| User: "Michael" |
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| Title: Re: 'Bible as hate speech' bill passes |
02 Jan 2004 04:01:58 PM |
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In article <urrkuvccnv985osqmrlhcdh4no4hthq63a@Pern.rk>,
ehxong@bcgbayvar.arg wrote:
On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 20:06:19 GMT, "American Civil Liberties Union of
Texas" <info@aclutx.org> posted to alt.atheism:
When any religious text is used to trample on the civil rights of people,
it is hate speech. This is true in Canada and in most of Europe.
IOW, the freedom of ideas is not welcome in Canada and in most of Eurpope,
sounds like fascism.
It's just true. That it's not law in some countries doesn't make it
less true.
Sounds like Nazis who said that they were just following the law, what
else could they do?
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| User: "No One" |
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| Title: Re: 'Bible as hate speech' bill passes |
02 Jan 2004 05:31:01 PM |
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(Michael) writes:
In article <urrkuvccnv985osqmrlhcdh4no4hthq63a@Pern.rk>,
ehxong@bcgbayvar.arg wrote:
On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 20:06:19 GMT, "American Civil Liberties Union of
Texas" <info@aclutx.org> posted to alt.atheism:
When any religious text is used to trample on the civil rights of people,
it is hate speech. This is true in Canada and in most of Europe.
IOW, the freedom of ideas is not welcome in Canada and in most of Eurpope,
sounds like fascism.
In both Europe and Canada there is no way you would get into trouble for
stating that there are Biblical passages that can be read as a condemnation
of homosexuality, just as some passages oppose eating pork.
What you probably can't get away with is standing on a street corner,
waving a Bible, and screaming at a guy walking down the street with
his boyfriend, saying they are both sinners who will rot in hell and
should be put to death.
Is this sort of distinction that difficult to grasp?
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: 'Bible as hate speech' bill passes |
02 Jan 2004 05:47:57 PM |
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On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 22:01:58 GMT, (Michael)
posted to alt.atheism:
In article <urrkuvccnv985osqmrlhcdh4no4hthq63a@Pern.rk>,
ehxong@bcgbayvar.arg wrote:
On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 20:06:19 GMT, "American Civil Liberties Union of
Texas" <info@aclutx.org> posted to alt.atheism:
When any religious text is used to trample on the civil rights of people,
it is hate speech. This is true in Canada and in most of Europe.
IOW, the freedom of ideas is not welcome in Canada and in most of Eurpope,
sounds like fascism.
Your freedom to swing your fist ends where my nose begins.
--
"I see only with deep regret that God punishes so many of His children for their
numerous stupidities, for which only He Himself can be held responsible; in my opinion,
only His nonexistence could excuse Him."
-A. Einstein (Letter to Edgar Meyer, Jan. 2, 1915)
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
rukbat at optonline dot net
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| User: "Ward Stewart" |
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| Title: Re: 'Bible as hate speech' bill passes |
02 Jan 2004 05:25:40 PM |
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On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 22:01:58 GMT, (Michael)
wrote:
In article <urrkuvccnv985osqmrlhcdh4no4hthq63a@Pern.rk>,
ehxong@bcgbayvar.arg wrote:
On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 20:06:19 GMT, "American Civil Liberties Union of
Texas" <info@aclutx.org> posted to alt.atheism:
When any religious text is used to trample on the civil rights of people,
it is hate speech. This is true in Canada and in most of Europe.
IOW, the freedom of ideas is not welcome in Canada and in most of Eurpope,
sounds like fascism.
Which "freedom" is being held in question? The freedom to persecute
one's neighbors by reason of ethnicity or sexuality or (in John
Ashcroft's case) carrying a "World Almanac?"
Clearly you have not the remotest notion of what constitutes Fascism
or, for that matter, what is meant by "freedom" or even "ideas."
ward
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"In our democratic republic the default MUST BE
that the citizen is free to live his life in any
harmless way that he chooses."
Ward Stewart
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