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"wbarwell" |
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10 Mar 2006 08:01:23 PM |
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Bible atrocities |
Biblical Atrocities
Exodus 32: 3,000 Israelites killed by Moses for worshipping the golden calf.
Numbers 31: After killing all men, boys and married women among the
Midianites, 32,000 virgins remain as booty for the Israelites. (If
unmarried girls are a quarter of the population, then 96,000 people were
killed.)
Joshua:
Joshua 8: 12,000 men and women, all the people of Ai, killed.
Joshua 10: Joshua completely destroys Gibeon ("larger than Ai"), Makeddah,
Libnah, Lachish, Eglon, Hebron, Debir. "He left no survivors."
Joshua 11: Hazor destroyed. [Paul Johnson, A History of the Jews (1987),
estimates the population of Hazor at ?> 50,000]
TOTAL: if Ai is average, 12,000 x 9 = 108,000 killed.
Judges 1: 10,000 Canaanites k. at Battle of Bezek. Jerusalem and Zephath
destroyed.
Judges 3: ca. 10,000 Moabites k. at Jordan River.
Judges 8: 120,000 Midianite soldiers k. by Gideon
Judges 20: Benjamin attacked by other tribes. 25,000 killed.
1 Samuel 4: 4,000 Isrealites killed at 1st Battle of Ebenezer/Aphek. 30,000
Isr. k. at 2nd battle.
David:
2 Samuel 8: 22,000 Arameans of Damascus and 18,000 Edomites killed in 2
battles.
2 Samuel 10: 40,000 Aramean footsoldiers and 7,000 charioteers killed at
Helam.
2 Samuel 18: 20,000 Israelites under Absalom killed at Ephraim.
1 Kings 20: 100,000 Arameans killed by Israelites at Battle of Aphek.
Another 27,000 killed by collapsing wall.
2 Chron 13: Judah beat Israel and inflicted 500,000 casualties.
2 Chron 25: Amaziah, king of Judah, k. 10,000 from Seir in battle and
executed 10,000 POWs. Discharged Judean soldiers pillaged and killed 3,000.
2 Chron 28: Pekah, king of Israel, slew 120,000 Judeans
TOTAL: That comes to about 1,283,000 mass killings specifically enumerated
in the Bible. The battle of 2_Chron_13 is so much larger than all the
others that we probably should doubt it.
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| User: "*nemo*" |
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| Title: Re: Bible atrocities |
11 Mar 2006 01:53:59 AM |
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In article <1214bga1utj96e1@corp.supernews.com>,
wbarwell <wbarwell@mylinuxisp.com> wrote:
Biblical Atrocities
Exodus 32: 3,000 Israelites killed by Moses for worshipping the golden calf.
Numbers 31: After killing all men, boys and married women among the
Midianites, 32,000 virgins remain as booty for the Israelites. (If
unmarried girls are a quarter of the population, then 96,000 people were
killed.)
Joshua:
Joshua 8: 12,000 men and women, all the people of Ai, killed.
Joshua 10: Joshua completely destroys Gibeon ("larger than Ai"), Makeddah,
Libnah, Lachish, Eglon, Hebron, Debir. "He left no survivors."
Joshua 11: Hazor destroyed. [Paul Johnson, A History of the Jews (1987),
estimates the population of Hazor at ?> 50,000]
TOTAL: if Ai is average, 12,000 x 9 = 108,000 killed.
Judges 1: 10,000 Canaanites k. at Battle of Bezek. Jerusalem and Zephath
destroyed.
Judges 3: ca. 10,000 Moabites k. at Jordan River.
Judges 8: 120,000 Midianite soldiers k. by Gideon
Judges 20: Benjamin attacked by other tribes. 25,000 killed.
1 Samuel 4: 4,000 Isrealites killed at 1st Battle of Ebenezer/Aphek. 30,000
Isr. k. at 2nd battle.
David:
2 Samuel 8: 22,000 Arameans of Damascus and 18,000 Edomites killed in 2
battles.
2 Samuel 10: 40,000 Aramean footsoldiers and 7,000 charioteers killed at
Helam.
2 Samuel 18: 20,000 Israelites under Absalom killed at Ephraim.
1 Kings 20: 100,000 Arameans killed by Israelites at Battle of Aphek.
Another 27,000 killed by collapsing wall.
2 Chron 13: Judah beat Israel and inflicted 500,000 casualties.
2 Chron 25: Amaziah, king of Judah, k. 10,000 from Seir in battle and
executed 10,000 POWs. Discharged Judean soldiers pillaged and killed 3,000.
2 Chron 28: Pekah, king of Israel, slew 120,000 Judeans
TOTAL: That comes to about 1,283,000 mass killings specifically enumerated
in the Bible. The battle of 2_Chron_13 is so much larger than all the
others that we probably should doubt it.
Huh. As if this was a complete list! Don't forget the laws that codified
slavery and removed many human rights from women. And then there's the
number of people killed directly by god himself. billions by any
conservative figure. Nope, this is the tip of the iceberg.
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: Bible atrocities |
11 Mar 2006 07:46:30 AM |
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On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 07:53:59 GMT, *nemo* <nemo0037@earthlink.dieSPAM.net> wrote:
Huh. As if this was a complete list!
God has always said that it doesn't pay to be evil.
Don't forget the laws that codified
slavery and removed many human rights from women. And then there's the
number of people killed directly by god himself. billions by any
conservative figure. Nope, this is the tip of the iceberg.
Where's this number? Remember, God only removed the source of evil from the
world.
duke, American-American
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Pope Paul VI
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| User: "Uncle Vic" |
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| Title: Re: Bible atrocities |
10 Mar 2006 09:24:36 PM |
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Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet wbarwell
(wbarwell@mylinuxisp.com) made the light shine upon us with this:
Biblical Atrocities
Exodus 32: 3,000 Israelites killed by Moses for worshipping the golden
calf. Numbers 31: After killing all men, boys and married women among
the Midianites, 32,000 virgins remain as booty for the Israelites. (If
unmarried girls are a quarter of the population, then 96,000 people
were killed.)
Joshua:
Joshua 8: 12,000 men and women, all the people of Ai, killed.
Joshua 10: Joshua completely destroys Gibeon ("larger than Ai"),
Makeddah, Libnah, Lachish, Eglon, Hebron, Debir. "He left no
survivors." Joshua 11: Hazor destroyed. [Paul Johnson, A History of
the Jews (1987), estimates the population of Hazor at ?> 50,000]
TOTAL: if Ai is average, 12,000 x 9 = 108,000 killed.
Judges 1: 10,000 Canaanites k. at Battle of Bezek. Jerusalem and
Zephath destroyed.
Judges 3: ca. 10,000 Moabites k. at Jordan River.
Judges 8: 120,000 Midianite soldiers k. by Gideon
Judges 20: Benjamin attacked by other tribes. 25,000 killed.
1 Samuel 4: 4,000 Isrealites killed at 1st Battle of Ebenezer/Aphek.
30,000 Isr. k. at 2nd battle.
David:
2 Samuel 8: 22,000 Arameans of Damascus and 18,000 Edomites killed in
2 battles.
2 Samuel 10: 40,000 Aramean footsoldiers and 7,000 charioteers killed
at Helam.
2 Samuel 18: 20,000 Israelites under Absalom killed at Ephraim.
1 Kings 20: 100,000 Arameans killed by Israelites at Battle of Aphek.
Another 27,000 killed by collapsing wall.
2 Chron 13: Judah beat Israel and inflicted 500,000 casualties.
2 Chron 25: Amaziah, king of Judah, k. 10,000 from Seir in battle and
executed 10,000 POWs. Discharged Judean soldiers pillaged and killed
3,000. 2 Chron 28: Pekah, king of Israel, slew 120,000 Judeans
TOTAL: That comes to about 1,283,000 mass killings specifically
enumerated in the Bible. The battle of 2_Chron_13 is so much larger
than all the others that we probably should doubt it.
Good thing none of it actually happened.
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
Atheists get to live their lives in accordance with their own desires. I
call that a win, compared to the collossal waste of time being an active
Christian. Atheist: win. Christian: lose. "No win" never comes into
play, because there are no gods.
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| User: "Thurisaz, Germanic barbarian" |
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| Title: Re: Bible atrocities |
10 Mar 2006 11:17:43 PM |
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Uncle Vic wrote:
Good thing none of it actually happened.
And a bad thing that so many fundie fucktards want to make their nonexistent
skydaddy proud by killing as many eeeebil unbelievers as the heavenly
monster supposedly did.
Remember: It needn't be true to drive people to kill. :(
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"To his friend a man a friend shall prove, and gifts with gifts requite;
But men shall mocking with mockery answer, and fraud with falsehood meet."
(The Poetic Edda)
Must have been written with fundies in mind...
Why I am not a christian:
http://www.carcosa.de/nojebus/nojebus
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Bible atrocities |
12 Mar 2006 07:50:33 PM |
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On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 06:17:43 +0100, "Thurisaz, Germanic barbarian"
<MAILTOcommoner@carcosa.de> wrote in alt.atheism
Uncle Vic wrote:
Good thing none of it actually happened.
And a bad thing that so many fundie fucktards want to make their nonexistent
skydaddy proud by killing as many eeeebil unbelievers as the heavenly
monster supposedly did.
Remember: It needn't be true to drive people to kill. :(
They should be eliminating each other for violating their own 'Prime
Directives.'
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
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| User: "Thurisaz, Germanic barbarian" |
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12 Mar 2006 11:46:46 PM |
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stoney wrote:
They should be eliminating each other for violating their own 'Prime
Directives.'
Yeah, sometimes I wish we could just dump the fundies from all the big three
(jebus cult, mohamed cult and jehoover cult - yes there are Jewish fundies
too) in the same place, build a damn high wall around there and sit it out.
If they want to ***** up each others' lives, fine with me - just don't harm
the rest of the world.
--
"To his friend a man a friend shall prove, and gifts with gifts requite;
But men shall mocking with mockery answer, and fraud with falsehood meet."
(The Poetic Edda)
Must have been written with fundies in mind...
Why I am not a christian:
http://www.carcosa.de/nojebus/nojebus
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Bible atrocities |
13 Mar 2006 07:58:24 PM |
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On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 06:46:46 +0100, "Thurisaz, Germanic barbarian"
<MAILTOcommoner@carcosa.de> wrote in alt.atheism
stoney wrote:
They should be eliminating each other for violating their own 'Prime
Directives.'
Yeah, sometimes I wish we could just dump the fundies from all the big three
(jebus cult, mohamed cult and jehoover cult - yes there are Jewish fundies
too) in the same place, build a damn high wall around there and sit it out.
If they want to ***** up each others' lives, fine with me - just don't harm
the rest of the world.
I know there are. These people are the problem, not the solution. :\
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
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