Religions > Atheism > Bible quote of the Day for Aug 17 (many that are first will be last, and the last first)
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21 Aug 2004 11:56:08 AM |
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Bible quote of the Day for Aug 17 (many that are first will be last, and the last first) |
Matthew 19:23-30
23 And Jesus said to his disciples, "Truly, I say to you, it will be
hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. 24 Again I tell
you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than
for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God." 25 When the disciples
heard this they were greatly astonished, saying, "Who then can be
saved?" 26 But Jesus looked at them and said to them, "With men this
is impossible, but with God all things are possible." 27 Then Peter
said in reply, "Lo, we have left everything and followed you. What
then shall we have?" 28 Jesus said to them, "Truly, I say to you, in
the new world, when the Son of man shall sit on his glorious throne,
you who have followed me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the
twelve tribes of Israel. 29 And every one who has left houses or
brothers or sisters or father or mother or children or lands, for my
name's sake, will receive a hundredfold, and inherit eternal life. 30
But many that are first will be last, and the last first.
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At the time people actually thought that the rich and privileged were
the closest to God. Well of course. All of the earthly wealth and good
things in their lives must be blessings from God. The poor, the lame,
the lepers, the blind-- they were the sinners.
But Jesus here surprises his followers and tells them that the rich
will find it hard to enter the kingdom. The disciples are "astonished"
by this and ask him, well then who can be saved? If not those who are
closest to God, then who? Jesus almost seems exasperated, and says
with God all things are possible.
Yet many of us still think this way. We think that when bad things
happen in our lives we are being punished, and when good things happen
we are being rewarded. But Jesus clearly refutes that here. The good
things have their place, but the bad things as well.
Difficult times can make us better people. When we go through
difficulty we can become more in tune with our spirits, closer to God,
with stronger and more compassionate spiritual hearts. Do not hate
your struggle, turn to Jesus and learn from him, you will find rest
for your soul, and you will go from last to first.
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| Title: Re: Bible quote of the Day for Aug 17 (many that are first will be last, and the last first) |
23 Aug 2004 11:25:06 PM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message news:<mdadnanIk8gCQbTcRVn-jw@megapath.net>...
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 00:52:00 +0000 in episode
<umfii0p9si3f30o9j2voo9avuol5bbbufq@4ax.com> we saw our hero homer
<xxx@xxx.com>:
I hope you are not one of those atheists who likes to go around trying to
convince people that atheists are happy, well adjusted people. You are a
prime example of why many people think that atheists are confused, bitter,
angry people. I think the obvious conclusion is that, that is exactly
where atheism leads.
You are a prime example of how Christians are incapable of telling the
truth
That is a prime example of HATE SPEECH.
Replace "Christians" with any other group.
Who do you sound like?
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| User: "David V." |
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| Title: Re: Bible quote of the Day for Aug 17 (many that are first will belast, and the last first) |
24 Aug 2004 12:56:55 AM |
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John Kelley wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote
homer <xxx@xxx.com>:
I hope you are not one of those atheists who likes to
go around trying to convince people that atheists are
happy, well adjusted people. You are a prime example
of why many people think that atheists are confused,
bitter, angry people. I think the obvious conclusion
is that, that is exactly where atheism leads.
You are a prime example of how Christians are incapable
of telling the truth
That is a prime example of HATE SPEECH.
How can it be hate speach when it's true? What little homer
said is proof that christians cannot tell the truth.
--
David V.
UDP for WebTV
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| User: "John Kelley" |
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24 Aug 2004 03:25:52 PM |
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"David V." <spam@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<orqdnUxepcw1RbfcRVn-gA@sti.net>...
John Kelley wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote
homer <xxx@xxx.com>:
I hope you are not one of those atheists who likes to
go around trying to convince people that atheists are
happy, well adjusted people. You are a prime example
of why many people think that atheists are confused,
bitter, angry people. I think the obvious conclusion
is that, that is exactly where atheism leads.
You are a prime example of how Christians are incapable
of telling the truth
That is a prime example of HATE SPEECH.
How can it be hate speach when it's true? What little homer
said is proof that christians cannot tell the truth.
Well,I guess Newton lied about gravity,Pasteur lied about
medicine,M.L.King about civil rights,Faraday about
electromagnetics,etc...
After all,if Christians can't tell the truth...
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| User: "David V." |
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| Title: Re: Bible quote of the Day for Aug 17 (many that are first will belast, and the last first) |
24 Aug 2004 04:25:20 PM |
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John Kelley wrote:
"David V." <spam@hotmail.com> wrote
John Kelley wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote
homer <xxx@xxx.com>:
I hope you are not one of those atheists who
likes to go around trying to convince people that
atheists are happy, well adjusted people. You are
a prime example of why many people think that
atheists are confused, bitter, angry people. I
think the obvious conclusion is that, that is
exactly where atheism leads.
You are a prime example of how Christians are
incapable of telling the truth
That is a prime example of HATE SPEECH.
How can it be hate speach when it's true? What little
homer said is proof that christians cannot tell the
truth.
Well,I guess Newton lied about gravity....
They're not the subject here, your hate speach is. Why do
you hate Atheists so much that you have to lie about them?
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David V.
UDP for WebTV
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Bible quote of the Day for Aug 17 (many that are first will be last, and the last first) |
24 Aug 2004 07:05:47 AM |
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On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 22:56:55 -0700 in episode
<orqdnUxepcw1RbfcRVn-gA@sti.net> we saw our hero "David V."
<spam@hotmail.com>:
John Kelley wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote
homer <xxx@xxx.com>:
I hope you are not one of those atheists who likes to go around trying
to convince people that atheists are happy, well adjusted people. You
are a prime example of why many people think that atheists are
confused, bitter, angry people. I think the obvious conclusion is
that, that is exactly where atheism leads.
You are a prime example of how Christians are incapable of telling the
truth
That is a prime example of HATE SPEECH.
How can it be hate speach when it's true? What little homer said is proof
that christians cannot tell the truth.
And I still have to ask that if Christianity engenders moral behavior, why
doesn't it?
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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"Often anger is a sign of engagement with life. People who
are angry are touched deeply by the events of their lives
and feel strongly about them....Anger is just a demand for
change, a passionate wish for things to be different....
And, as it was for me, it may be the first expression of
the will to live." -- Rachel Naomi Remen
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| User: "David V." |
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| Title: Re: Bible quote of the Day for Aug 17 (many that are first will belast, and the last first) |
24 Aug 2004 11:24:41 AM |
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Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
"David V." <spam@hotmail.com>:
John Kelley wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote
homer <xxx@xxx.com>:
I hope you are not one of those atheists who
likes to go around trying to convince people that
atheists are happy, well adjusted people. You are
a prime example of why many people think that
atheists are confused, bitter, angry people. I
think the obvious conclusion is that, that is
exactly where atheism leads.
You are a prime example of how Christians are
incapable of telling the truth
That is a prime example of HATE SPEECH.
How can it be hate speech when it's true? What little
homer said is proof that christians cannot tell the
truth.
And I still have to ask that if Christianity engenders
moral behavior, why doesn't it?
That's an easy one. christians don't have to back up their
claims. They're exempt. You're supposed to believe what
you're told and are not to ask questions.
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David V.
UDP for WebTV
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| User: "homer" |
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| Title: Re: Bible quote of the Day for Aug 17 (many that are first will be last, and the last first) |
24 Aug 2004 07:13:41 PM |
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On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 07:05:47 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 22:56:55 -0700 in episode
<orqdnUxepcw1RbfcRVn-gA@sti.net> we saw our hero "David V."
<spam@hotmail.com>:
John Kelley wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote
homer <xxx@xxx.com>:
I hope you are not one of those atheists who likes to go around trying
to convince people that atheists are happy, well adjusted people. You
are a prime example of why many people think that atheists are
confused, bitter, angry people. I think the obvious conclusion is
that, that is exactly where atheism leads.
You are a prime example of how Christians are incapable of telling the
truth
That is a prime example of HATE SPEECH.
How can it be hate speach when it's true? What little homer said is proof
that christians cannot tell the truth.
And I still have to ask that if Christianity engenders moral behavior, why
doesn't it?
It does, you are just incapable of recognizing it.
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| User: "ChuckPFb" |
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| Title: Re: Bible quote of the Day for Aug 17 (many that are first will be last, and the last first) |
27 Aug 2004 05:08:48 AM |
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"homer" <xxx@xxx.com> wrote in message
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 07:05:47 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
And I still have to ask that if Christianity engenders moral behavior, why
doesn't it?
It does, you are just incapable of recognizing it.
Yes, just as in the story of the "Emporer's New Clothes" The emporer was
really naked, it's just that he and his subjects were incapable of recognizing it.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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24 Aug 2004 08:32:08 PM |
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On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 00:13:41 +0000 in episode
<scmni0hm484o416vegf3qcsmnab4q2ngve@4ax.com> we saw our hero homer
<xxx@xxx.com>:
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 07:05:47 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 22:56:55 -0700 in episode
<orqdnUxepcw1RbfcRVn-gA@sti.net> we saw our hero "David V."
<spam@hotmail.com>:
John Kelley wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote
homer <xxx@xxx.com>:
I hope you are not one of those atheists who likes to go around
trying to convince people that atheists are happy, well adjusted
people. You are a prime example of why many people think that
atheists are confused, bitter, angry people. I think the obvious
conclusion is that, that is exactly where atheism leads.
You are a prime example of how Christians are incapable of telling
the truth
That is a prime example of HATE SPEECH.
How can it be hate speach when it's true? What little homer said is
proof that christians cannot tell the truth.
And I still have to ask that if Christianity engenders moral behavior,
why doesn't it?
It does, you are just incapable of recognizing it.
I see. So I'm not pissing people off enough? I mean, if I want to be as
moral as you I need to pee in more peoples' faces?
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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"Often anger is a sign of engagement with life. People who
are angry are touched deeply by the events of their lives
and feel strongly about them....Anger is just a demand for
change, a passionate wish for things to be different....
And, as it was for me, it may be the first expression of
the will to live." -- Rachel Naomi Remen
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| User: "David V." |
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24 Aug 2004 07:42:44 PM |
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homer wrote:
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 07:05:47 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
And I still have to ask that if Christianity engenders
moral behavior, why doesn't it?
It does
Then why are there more christians in US prisons than all
the other religions combined?
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David V.
UDP for WebTV
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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24 Aug 2004 03:33:00 AM |
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On 23 Aug 2004 21:25:06 -0700, (John Kelley)
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message news:<mdadnanIk8gCQbTcRVn-jw@megapath.net>...
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 00:52:00 +0000 in episode
<umfii0p9si3f30o9j2voo9avuol5bbbufq@4ax.com> we saw our hero homer
<xxx@xxx.com>:
I hope you are not one of those atheists who likes to go around trying to
convince people that atheists are happy, well adjusted people. You are a
prime example of why many people think that atheists are confused, bitter,
angry people. I think the obvious conclusion is that, that is exactly
where atheism leads.
You are a prime example of how Christians are incapable of telling the
truth
That is a prime example of HATE SPEECH.
Replace "Christians" with any other group.
Who do you sound like?
Yet another Christian liar who pretends the negative reaction to
people rudeness and nastiness from in-you-face Christians is hate
speech.
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| User: "John Kelley" |
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24 Aug 2004 03:39:51 PM |
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Christopher A. Lee <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message news:<57vli0poo71livjtbddl1n34j1knbo5bhg@4ax.com>...
On 23 Aug 2004 21:25:06 -0700, (John Kelley)
wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message news:<mdadnanIk8gCQbTcRVn-jw@megapath.net>...
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 00:52:00 +0000 in episode
<umfii0p9si3f30o9j2voo9avuol5bbbufq@4ax.com> we saw our hero homer
<xxx@xxx.com>:
I hope you are not one of those atheists who likes to go around trying to
convince people that atheists are happy, well adjusted people. You are a
prime example of why many people think that atheists are confused, bitter,
angry people. I think the obvious conclusion is that, that is exactly
where atheism leads.
You are a prime example of how Christians are incapable of telling the
truth
That is a prime example of HATE SPEECH.
Replace "Christians" with any other group.
Who do you sound like?
Yet another Christian liar who pretends the negative reaction to
people rudeness and nastiness from in-you-face Christians is hate
speech.
Labeling an entire religious/ethnic/racial group as
"incapable of telling the truth" is HATE SPEECH.
And it's demonstrably(sp?) false,as well.
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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24 Aug 2004 03:53:41 PM |
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On 24 Aug 2004 13:39:51 -0700, (John Kelley)
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Christopher A. Lee <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message news:<57vli0poo71livjtbddl1n34j1knbo5bhg@4ax.com>...
On 23 Aug 2004 21:25:06 -0700, (John Kelley)
wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message news:<mdadnanIk8gCQbTcRVn-jw@megapath.net>...
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 00:52:00 +0000 in episode
<umfii0p9si3f30o9j2voo9avuol5bbbufq@4ax.com> we saw our hero homer
<xxx@xxx.com>:
I hope you are not one of those atheists who likes to go around trying to
convince people that atheists are happy, well adjusted people. You are a
prime example of why many people think that atheists are confused, bitter,
angry people. I think the obvious conclusion is that, that is exactly
where atheism leads.
You are a prime example of how Christians are incapable of telling the
truth
That is a prime example of HATE SPEECH.
Replace "Christians" with any other group.
Who do you sound like?
Yet another Christian liar who pretends the negative reaction to
people rudeness and nastiness from in-you-face Christians is hate
speech.
Labeling an entire religious/ethnic/racial group as
"incapable of telling the truth" is HATE SPEECH.
I didn't do that, liar.
However both you and Homer are typical Christians.
And it's demonstrably(sp?) false,as well.
Not in your case, liar.
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25 Aug 2004 03:24:33 AM |
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Christopher A. Lee <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message news:<vjani09nbcs0eaqdh8armbb5gh5jtfm9nf@4ax.com>...
On 24 Aug 2004 13:39:51 -0700, (John Kelley)
wrote:
You are a prime example of how Christians are incapable of telling the
truth
That is a prime example of HATE SPEECH.
Replace "Christians" with any other group.
Who do you sound like?
Yet another Christian liar who pretends the negative reaction to
people rudeness and nastiness from in-you-face Christians is hate
speech.
Labeling an entire religious/ethnic/racial group as
"incapable of telling the truth" is HATE SPEECH.
I didn't do that, liar.
You didn't,but Mark did.
See above for the order of comments/replys.
And it's demonstrably(sp?) false,as well.
Not in your case, liar.
It most certaintly is.
"Christopher A. Lee is not a Christian."
See? A true statement.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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24 Aug 2004 07:05:16 AM |
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On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 21:25:06 -0700 in episode
<ce9e95d1.0408232025.5224c1fb@posting.google.com> we saw our hero
jkelley@zoomnet.net (John Kelley):
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:<mdadnanIk8gCQbTcRVn-jw@megapath.net>...
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 00:52:00 +0000 in episode
<umfii0p9si3f30o9j2voo9avuol5bbbufq@4ax.com> we saw our hero homer
<xxx@xxx.com>:
I hope you are not one of those atheists who likes to go around trying
to convince people that atheists are happy, well adjusted people. You
are a prime example of why many people think that atheists are
confused, bitter, angry people. I think the obvious conclusion is
that, that is exactly where atheism leads.
You are a prime example of how Christians are incapable of telling the
truth
That is a prime example of HATE SPEECH. Replace "Christians" with any
other group. Who do you sound like?
Wondered if that would bring anybody out of the woodwork.
Funny how you folk don't get mad at people who represent your religion in
such a way that people end up hating it. You only get mad at the people
who *react to the assholes.
By the way, that's awfully slippery ground you're on given that
Christianity asserts, and quite blatantly, that anybody outside of the
faith is immoral and "unsaved." So it must also be "hate speech."
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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"Often anger is a sign of engagement with life. People who
are angry are touched deeply by the events of their lives
and feel strongly about them....Anger is just a demand for
change, a passionate wish for things to be different....
And, as it was for me, it may be the first expression of
the will to live." -- Rachel Naomi Remen
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24 Aug 2004 07:25:35 AM |
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On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 07:05:16 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 21:25:06 -0700 in episode
<ce9e95d1.0408232025.5224c1fb@posting.google.com> we saw our hero
jkelley@zoomnet.net (John Kelley):
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:<mdadnanIk8gCQbTcRVn-jw@megapath.net>...
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 00:52:00 +0000 in episode
<umfii0p9si3f30o9j2voo9avuol5bbbufq@4ax.com> we saw our hero homer
<xxx@xxx.com>:
I hope you are not one of those atheists who likes to go around trying
to convince people that atheists are happy, well adjusted people. You
are a prime example of why many people think that atheists are
confused, bitter, angry people. I think the obvious conclusion is
that, that is exactly where atheism leads.
You are a prime example of how Christians are incapable of telling the
truth
That is a prime example of HATE SPEECH. Replace "Christians" with any
other group. Who do you sound like?
Wondered if that would bring anybody out of the woodwork.
Funny how you folk don't get mad at people who represent your religion in
such a way that people end up hating it. You only get mad at the people
who *react to the assholes.
By the way, that's awfully slippery ground you're on given that
Christianity asserts, and quite blatantly, that anybody outside of the
faith is immoral and "unsaved." So it must also be "hate speech."
Their self-image is that are the good guys bringing "the truth" to the
rest of us, and that those not receptive to it are evil so they spend
the rest of their lives taking pot shots at the evil ones for the
Lord.
It's pathetic really - it has destroyed whatever vestiges of humanity
they might once have had.
They see nothing wrong with behaving like assholes to people outside
their religion because in their minds we're not even human.
And worse, they can't understand why people react so negatively to
their in-your-face nastiness.
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| Title: Atheist hate speech (was Re: Bible quote of the Day for Aug 17 |
24 Aug 2004 06:30:27 PM |
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Christopher A. Lee <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message news:<5ncmi0l9ftqou8tbdpghin7d992fhb2fe0@4ax.com>...
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 07:05:16 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 21:25:06 -0700 in episode
<ce9e95d1.0408232025.5224c1fb@posting.google.com> we saw our hero
jkelley@zoomnet.net (John Kelley):
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:<mdadnanIk8gCQbTcRVn-jw@megapath.net>...
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 00:52:00 +0000 in episode
<umfii0p9si3f30o9j2voo9avuol5bbbufq@4ax.com> we saw our hero homer
<xxx@xxx.com>:
I hope you are not one of those atheists who likes to go around trying
to convince people that atheists are happy, well adjusted people. You
are a prime example of why many people think that atheists are
confused, bitter, angry people. I think the obvious conclusion is
that, that is exactly where atheism leads.
You are a prime example of how Christians are incapable of telling the
truth
That is a prime example of HATE SPEECH. Replace "Christians" with any
other group. Who do you sound like?
Wondered if that would bring anybody out of the woodwork.
Funny how you folk don't get mad at people who represent your religion in
such a way that people end up hating it. You only get mad at the people
who *react to the assholes.
By the way, that's awfully slippery ground you're on given that
Christianity asserts, and quite blatantly, that anybody outside of the
faith is immoral and "unsaved." So it must also be "hate speech."
Their self-image is that are the good guys bringing "the truth" to the
rest of us, and that those not receptive to it are evil so they spend
the rest of their lives taking pot shots at the evil ones for the
Lord.
It's pathetic really - it has destroyed whatever vestiges of humanity
they might once have had.
Some of the most blatant hate speech I've heard from atheists.
Claiming that a group isn't human?
Where have we heard before?
Nazi Germany,that's where.
Also what the Kook Kook Kook says about blacks,etc.
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24 Aug 2004 07:41:14 PM |
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John Kelley wrote:
Some of the most blatant hate speech I've heard from
atheists. Claiming that a group isn't human? Where have
we heard before?
From christians claiming that Atheists are inhuman and
immoral. From christians claiming that Atheists are not fit
to be citizens and should not be allowed to vote. From
christians claiming that this is their christian country and
that all others can just shut up or convert. From christians
claiming that they are the originators of morality. From
christians that are too stupid to grasp evolution and want
their fantasy religion forced upon children in schools. From
christians that want to force children to pray to their gods.
Yep, christians are full of hate speech and whine like
little babies when they're called on it. They can do and say
what they want but no one can say anything bad about their
silly god or religion.
If you want to hear hate speech; listen to your fellow
christians.
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David V.
UDP for WebTV
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24 Aug 2004 08:58:20 PM |
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"David V." <spam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:WJCdnXOCWdqxfbbcRVn-vQ@sti.net...
John Kelley wrote:
Some of the most blatant hate speech I've heard from
atheists. Claiming that a group isn't human? Where have
we heard before?
From christians claiming that Atheists are inhuman and
immoral. From christians claiming that Atheists are not fit
to be citizens and should not be allowed to vote. From
christians claiming that this is their christian country and
that all others can just shut up or convert. From christians
claiming that they are the originators of morality. From
christians that are too stupid to grasp evolution and want
their fantasy religion forced upon children in schools. From
christians that want to force children to pray to their gods.
Yep, christians are full of hate speech and whine like
little babies when they're called on it. They can do and say
what they want but no one can say anything bad about their
silly god or religion.
If you want to hear hate speech; listen to your fellow
christians.
I can't remember who said it, but I remember a christian poster telling me
that I should have my child taken away from me because I wasn't raising her
as a christian.
How is THAT not hateful?
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
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| User: "David V." |
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24 Aug 2004 10:12:42 PM |
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Robibnikoff wrote:
"David V." <spam@hotmail.com> wrote
John Kelley wrote:
Some of the most blatant hate speech I've heard from
atheists. Claiming that a group isn't human? Where
have we heard before?
From christians claiming that Atheists are inhuman and
immoral. From christians claiming that Atheists are not
fit to be citizens and should not be allowed to vote.
From christians claiming that this is their christian
country and that all others can just shut up or
convert. From christians claiming that they are the
originators of morality. From christians that are too
stupid to grasp evolution and want their fantasy
religion forced upon children in schools. From
christians that want to force children to pray to their
gods.
Yep, christians are full of hate speech and whine like
little babies when they're called on it. They can do
and say what they want but no one can say anything bad
about their silly god or religion.
If you want to hear hate speech; listen to your fellow
christians.
I can't remember who said it, but I remember a christian
poster telling me that I should have my child taken away
from me because I wasn't raising her as a christian.
How is THAT not hateful?
The most bigoted and hateful people I know are christians.
They all use their religion to support their hatred. The one
whining here is no exception.
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David V.
UDP for WebTV
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| User: "John Baker" |
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25 Aug 2004 02:32:01 PM |
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On 24 Aug 2004 16:30:27 -0700, (John Kelley)
wrote:
Christopher A. Lee <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message news:<5ncmi0l9ftqou8tbdpghin7d992fhb2fe0@4ax.com>...
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 07:05:16 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 21:25:06 -0700 in episode
<ce9e95d1.0408232025.5224c1fb@posting.google.com> we saw our hero
(John Kelley):
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:<mdadnanIk8gCQbTcRVn-jw@megapath.net>...
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 00:52:00 +0000 in episode
<umfii0p9si3f30o9j2voo9avuol5bbbufq@4ax.com> we saw our hero homer
<xxx@xxx.com>:
I hope you are not one of those atheists who likes to go around trying
to convince people that atheists are happy, well adjusted people. You
are a prime example of why many people think that atheists are
confused, bitter, angry people. I think the obvious conclusion is
that, that is exactly where atheism leads.
You are a prime example of how Christians are incapable of telling the
truth
That is a prime example of HATE SPEECH. Replace "Christians" with any
other group. Who do you sound like?
Wondered if that would bring anybody out of the woodwork.
Funny how you folk don't get mad at people who represent your religion in
such a way that people end up hating it. You only get mad at the people
who *react to the assholes.
By the way, that's awfully slippery ground you're on given that
Christianity asserts, and quite blatantly, that anybody outside of the
faith is immoral and "unsaved." So it must also be "hate speech."
Their self-image is that are the good guys bringing "the truth" to the
rest of us, and that those not receptive to it are evil so they spend
the rest of their lives taking pot shots at the evil ones for the
Lord.
It's pathetic really - it has destroyed whatever vestiges of humanity
they might once have had.
Some of the most blatant hate speech I've heard from atheists.
Claiming that a group isn't human?
Where have we heard before?
Hmmm....let me see.....why....from Christians! Imagine that.
Nazi Germany,that's where.
Which was in no way atheistic.
Also what the Kook Kook Kook says about blacks,etc.
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24 Aug 2004 06:30:41 PM |
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Christopher A. Lee <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message news:<5ncmi0l9ftqou8tbdpghin7d992fhb2fe0@4ax.com>...
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 07:05:16 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 21:25:06 -0700 in episode
<ce9e95d1.0408232025.5224c1fb@posting.google.com> we saw our hero
jkelley@zoomnet.net (John Kelley):
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:<mdadnanIk8gCQbTcRVn-jw@megapath.net>...
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 00:52:00 +0000 in episode
<umfii0p9si3f30o9j2voo9avuol5bbbufq@4ax.com> we saw our hero homer
<xxx@xxx.com>:
I hope you are not one of those atheists who likes to go around trying
to convince people that atheists are happy, well adjusted people. You
are a prime example of why many people think that atheists are
confused, bitter, angry people. I think the obvious conclusion is
that, that is exactly where atheism leads.
You are a prime example of how Christians are incapable of telling the
truth
That is a prime example of HATE SPEECH. Replace "Christians" with any
other group. Who do you sound like?
Wondered if that would bring anybody out of the woodwork.
Funny how you folk don't get mad at people who represent your religion in
such a way that people end up hating it. You only get mad at the people
who *react to the assholes.
By the way, that's awfully slippery ground you're on given that
Christianity asserts, and quite blatantly, that anybody outside of the
faith is immoral and "unsaved." So it must also be "hate speech."
Their self-image is that are the good guys bringing "the truth" to the
rest of us, and that those not receptive to it are evil so they spend
the rest of their lives taking pot shots at the evil ones for the
Lord.
It's pathetic really - it has destroyed whatever vestiges of humanity
they might once have had.
Some of the most blatant hate speech I've heard from atheists.
Claiming that a group isn't human?
Where have we heard before?
Nazi Germany,that's where.
Also what the Kook Kook Kook says about blacks,etc.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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24 Aug 2004 07:43:32 AM |
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On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 12:25:35 +0000 in episode
<5ncmi0l9ftqou8tbdpghin7d992fhb2fe0@4ax.com> we saw our hero Christopher
A. Lee <calee@optonline.net>:
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 07:05:16 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 21:25:06 -0700 in episode
<ce9e95d1.0408232025.5224c1fb@posting.google.com> we saw our hero
jkelley@zoomnet.net (John Kelley):
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:<mdadnanIk8gCQbTcRVn-jw@megapath.net>...
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 00:52:00 +0000 in episode
<umfii0p9si3f30o9j2voo9avuol5bbbufq@4ax.com> we saw our hero homer
<xxx@xxx.com>:
I hope you are not one of those atheists who likes to go around
trying to convince people that atheists are happy, well adjusted
people. You are a prime example of why many people think that
atheists are confused, bitter, angry people. I think the obvious
conclusion is that, that is exactly where atheism leads.
You are a prime example of how Christians are incapable of telling the
truth
That is a prime example of HATE SPEECH. Replace "Christians" with any
other group. Who do you sound like?
Wondered if that would bring anybody out of the woodwork.
Funny how you folk don't get mad at people who represent your religion in
such a way that people end up hating it. You only get mad at the people
who *react to the assholes.
By the way, that's awfully slippery ground you're on given that
Christianity asserts, and quite blatantly, that anybody outside of the
faith is immoral and "unsaved." So it must also be "hate speech."
Their self-image is that are the good guys bringing "the truth" to the
rest of us, and that those not receptive to it are evil so they spend the
rest of their lives taking pot shots at the evil ones for the Lord.
It's pathetic really - it has destroyed whatever vestiges of humanity they
might once have had.
They see nothing wrong with behaving like assholes to people outside their
religion because in their minds we're not even human.
And worse, they can't understand why people react so negatively to their
in-your-face nastiness.
Well, so many of them found "god" in the mirror. And "god" is perfect and
cannot do wrong eh?
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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"Often anger is a sign of engagement with life. People who
are angry are touched deeply by the events of their lives
and feel strongly about them....Anger is just a demand for
change, a passionate wish for things to be different....
And, as it was for me, it may be the first expression of
the will to live." -- Rachel Naomi Remen
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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| Title: Re: Bible quote of the Day for Aug 17 (many that are first will be last, and the last first) |
22 Aug 2004 08:18:26 PM |
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On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 00:52:00 GMT, homer <xxx@xxx.com> wrote:
On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 16:16:49 GMT, Christopher A. Lee
<calee@optonline.net> wrote:
On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 15:54:56 GMT, homer <xxx@xxx.com> wrote:
On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 23:49:39 GMT, Christopher A. Lee
<calee@optonline.net> wrote:
Yet another bad-mannered theist sociopath preaching his inanity where
it is neither wanted nor needed.
What is it with you stupid, in-your-face hypocrites?
Quotes from the gospels are directly relevant to alt.atheism because
they prove beyond any shadow of a doubt that atheism is wrong. The
ultimate proof that jesus was who he said he was is not in scholarly
studies or evidence. The ultimate proof is in the teachings
themselves.
Don't be so mind-bogglingly stupid, liar.
1. Learn what atheism actually is. It's not what the god-soaked like
you imagine.
2. Learn how irrelevant the hypothetical objects of your religious
belief is outside your religion.
3. Learn that your religion is merely one out of hundreds of others,
and only dpecial to its adherents.
4. Learn to either put up or shut up.
5. Learn the courtesy not to run your stupidity in our faces.
6. Learn not to lie about the less gullible than you.
I hope you are not one of those atheists who likes to go around trying
to convince people that atheists are happy, well adjusted people. You
are a prime example of why many people think that atheists are
confused, bitter, angry people. I think the obvious conclusion is
that, that is exactly where atheism leads.
And you are a prime example of why they REACT to your kind of
in-your-face stupidity, nastiness and lies.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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23 Aug 2004 07:02:17 AM |
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On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 01:18:26 +0000 in episode
<idhii01c7qke9nm38es9s2nfvtd6405nr5@4ax.com> we saw our hero Christopher
A. Lee <calee@optonline.net>:
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 00:52:00 GMT, homer <xxx@xxx.com> wrote:
On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 16:16:49 GMT, Christopher A. Lee
<calee@optonline.net> wrote:
On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 15:54:56 GMT, homer <xxx@xxx.com> wrote:
On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 23:49:39 GMT, Christopher A. Lee
<calee@optonline.net> wrote:
Yet another bad-mannered theist sociopath preaching his inanity where
it is neither wanted nor needed.
What is it with you stupid, in-your-face hypocrites?
Quotes from the gospels are directly relevant to alt.atheism because
they prove beyond any shadow of a doubt that atheism is wrong. The
ultimate proof that jesus was who he said he was is not in scholarly
studies or evidence. The ultimate proof is in the teachings
themselves.
Don't be so mind-bogglingly stupid, liar.
1. Learn what atheism actually is. It's not what the god-soaked like you
imagine.
2. Learn how irrelevant the hypothetical objects of your religious
belief is outside your religion.
3. Learn that your religion is merely one out of hundreds of others, and
only dpecial to its adherents.
4. Learn to either put up or shut up. 5. Learn the courtesy not to run
your stupidity in our faces. 6. Learn not to lie about the less gullible
than you.
I hope you are not one of those atheists who likes to go around trying to
convince people that atheists are happy, well adjusted people. You are a
prime example of why many people think that atheists are confused,
bitter, angry people. I think the obvious conclusion is that, that is
exactly where atheism leads.
And you are a prime example of why they REACT to your kind of in-your-face
stupidity, nastiness and lies.
Yeah he goes around peeing in peoples' faces then saying "see, see, you're
miserable!"
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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"Come to think of it, there are already a million
monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet
is NOTHING like Shakespeare!" -- Blair Houghton
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| User: "Steve Knight" |
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22 Aug 2004 10:11:43 PM |
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On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 00:52:00 GMT, homer <xxx@xxx.com> wrote:
snip
I hope you are not one of those atheists who likes to go around trying
to convince people that atheists are happy, well adjusted people. You
are a prime example of why many people think that atheists are
confused, bitter, angry people. I think the obvious conclusion is
that, that is exactly where atheism leads.
Poor, Homer. The chances of you ever understanding atheism are
zero. When you started trolling alt.atheism, I didn't like you but
now, well.... I feel myself becoming neutral towards you. You're just
another victim of christianity. A zombie that can't tell night from
day, left from right.
I'll be putting you in my killfile soon. I know from years of
experience that believers like you have had all logic and reasoning
utterly destroyed by dogma.
That's why I hate your belief. It destroys humanity. It destroys
everything that makes us human.
Warlord Steve
BAAWA
www.sonic.net/~wooly
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| User: "homer" |
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22 Aug 2004 10:41:49 PM |
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On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 03:11:43 GMT, Steve Knight <whooly@sonic.net>
wrote:
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 00:52:00 GMT, homer <xxx@xxx.com> wrote:
snip
I hope you are not one of those atheists who likes to go around trying
to convince people that atheists are happy, well adjusted people. You
are a prime example of why many people think that atheists are
confused, bitter, angry people. I think the obvious conclusion is
that, that is exactly where atheism leads.
Poor, Homer. The chances of you ever understanding atheism are
zero. When you started trolling alt.atheism, I didn't like you but
now, well.... I feel myself becoming neutral towards you. You're just
another victim of christianity. A zombie that can't tell night from
day, left from right.
I'll be putting you in my killfile soon. I know from years of
experience that believers like you have had all logic and reasoning
utterly destroyed by dogma.
That's why I hate your belief. It destroys humanity. It destroys
everything that makes us human.
Warlord Steve
BAAWA
www.sonic.net/~wooly
Well neutral I don't like. If I can't work myself back into your
actively disliking me, then I would have to agree that I deserve to be
killfiled. That would be unfortunate.
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| User: "Steve Knight" |
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23 Aug 2004 06:10:49 PM |
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On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 03:41:49 GMT, homer <xxx@xxx.com> wrote:
Well neutral I don't like. If I can't work myself back into your
actively disliking me, then I would have to agree that I deserve to be
killfiled. That would be unfortunate.
Is that what Jeebus would do, christian?
Hypocrite. Can't practice what you preach.
Warlord Steve
BAAWA
www.sonic.net/~wooly
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| User: "homer" |
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| Title: Re: Bible quote of the Day for Aug 17 (many that are first will be last, and the last first) |
23 Aug 2004 07:35:41 PM |
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On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 23:10:49 GMT, Steve Knight <whooly@sonic.net>
wrote:
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 03:41:49 GMT, homer <xxx@xxx.com> wrote:
Well neutral I don't like. If I can't work myself back into your
actively disliking me, then I would have to agree that I deserve to be
killfiled. That would be unfortunate.
Is that what Jeebus would do, christian?
Hypocrite. Can't practice what you preach.
Warlord Steve
BAAWA
www.sonic.net/~wooly
You don't know the bible as well as you claim.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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24 Aug 2004 09:10:53 PM |
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On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 00:35:41 +0000 in episode
<s73li05co1nsm0n9aupp9qsieprlv74nh7@4ax.com> we saw our hero homer
<xxx@xxx.com>:
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 23:10:49 GMT, Steve Knight <whooly@sonic.net> wrote:
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 03:41:49 GMT, homer <xxx@xxx.com> wrote:
Well neutral I don't like. If I can't work myself back into your
actively disliking me, then I would have to agree that I deserve to be
killfiled. That would be unfortunate.
Is that what Jeebus would do, christian?
Hypocrite. Can't practice what you preach.
Warlord Steve
BAAWA
www.sonic.net/~wooly
You don't know the bible as well as you claim.
I know it well enough to know that the Apostle Peter was quite clear in
commanding you to *NOT* retaliate when reviled.
I see you show as much respect for that book as I do...
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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"Often anger is a sign of engagement with life. People who
are angry are touched deeply by the events of their lives
and feel strongly about them....Anger is just a demand for
change, a passionate wish for things to be different....
And, as it was for me, it may be the first expression of
the will to live." -- Rachel Naomi Remen
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