Religions > Atheism > Bible Quote of the day for July 13 (Would that you were cold or hot)
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13 Jul 2004 08:26:27 PM |
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Bible Quote of the day for July 13 (Would that you were cold or hot) |
Revelation 3:14-18
And to the angel of the church in La-odice'a write: `The words of the
Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of God's creation.
15: "`I know your works: you are neither cold nor hot. Would that you
were cold or hot!
16: So, because you are lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will
spew you out of my mouth.
17: For you say, I am rich, I have prospered, and I need nothing; not
knowing that you are wretched, pitiable, poor, blind, and naked.
18: Therefore I counsel you to buy from me gold refined by fire, that
you may be rich, and white garments to clothe you and to keep the
shame of your nakedness from being seen, and salve to anoint your
eyes, that you may see.
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I generally use the daily mass gospel reading for my quotes, but I
make an exception here because I think this is interesting.
Notice how he says "Would that you were cold or hot!" Apparently it
is better to be "cold" than to be "lukewarm." How can this be?
I think this might apply to some of the atheists. I asked the
evilbible the following question once: If you really don't believe in
God then why do you spend so much effort trying to prove God is
immoral?
He flubbed that one.
Lukewarm means to be indifferent. people who are lukewarm do not read
the bible, do not think about God, they are completely indifferent to
the whole thing. That is the worst state to be in. This does not
describe many atheists. Many atheists know the Bible better than many
christians. They may be angry at God, but they are not indifferent.
They are not lukewarm.
I have a feeling that many "atheists" are going to make it into the
kingdom of heaven. I think some of their hearts are not as far from
God as their words suggest. And never forget, God knows what is in
your heart, and it is there that you are judged, your words do not
fool him.
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| User: "John Baker" |
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| Title: Re: Bible Quote of the day for July 13 (Would that you were cold or hot) |
13 Jul 2004 11:44:53 PM |
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"homer" <xxx@xxx.com> wrote in message
news:bp19f0drojtq38uuf9furcvdgnnug29gju@4ax.com...
Revelation 3:14-18
And to the angel of the church in La-odice'a write: `The words of the
Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of God's creation.
15: "`I know your works: you are neither cold nor hot. Would that you
were cold or hot!
16: So, because you are lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will
spew you out of my mouth.
17: For you say, I am rich, I have prospered, and I need nothing; not
knowing that you are wretched, pitiable, poor, blind, and naked.
18: Therefore I counsel you to buy from me gold refined by fire, that
you may be rich, and white garments to clothe you and to keep the
shame of your nakedness from being seen, and salve to anoint your
eyes, that you may see.
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I generally use the daily mass gospel reading for my quotes, but I
make an exception here because I think this is interesting.
Notice how he says "Would that you were cold or hot!" Apparently it
is better to be "cold" than to be "lukewarm." How can this be?
I think this might apply to some of the atheists. I asked the
evilbible the following question once: If you really don't believe in
God then why do you spend so much effort trying to prove God is
immoral?
He flubbed that one.
Lukewarm means to be indifferent. people who are lukewarm do not read
the bible, do not think about God, they are completely indifferent to
the whole thing. That is the worst state to be in. This does not
describe many atheists. Many atheists know the Bible better than many
christians. They may be angry at God, but they are not indifferent.
They are not lukewarm.
Sorry to disappoint you, Homer, but one can hardly be angry at an imaginary
character in a Bronze Age myth. However, we can and often do get angry at
superstitious fools who believe these myths and try to force that belief
onto everybody else.
I have a feeling that many "atheists" are going to make it into the
kingdom of heaven. I think some of their hearts are not as far from
God as their words suggest. And never forget, God knows what is in
your heart, and it is there that you are judged, your words do not
fool him.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Bible Quote of the day for July 13 (Would that you were cold or hot) |
13 Jul 2004 10:58:14 PM |
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On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 01:26:27 +0000 in episode
<bp19f0drojtq38uuf9furcvdgnnug29gju@4ax.com> we saw our hero homer
<xxx@xxx.com>:
If you really don't believe in God then why
do you spend so much effort trying to prove God is immoral?
You never heard of literary criticism?
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Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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There is no system but GNU, and Linux is one of its kernels.
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| User: "AngryJohn" |
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| Title: Re: Bible Quote of the day for July 13 (Would that you were cold or hot) |
13 Jul 2004 11:22:07 PM |
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On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 22:58:14 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 01:26:27 +0000 in episode
<bp19f0drojtq38uuf9furcvdgnnug29gju@4ax.com> we saw our hero homer
<xxx@xxx.com>:
If you really don't believe in God then why
do you spend so much effort trying to prove God is immoral?
You never heard of literary criticism?
You used literary in reference to the bible?
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Bible Quote of the day for July 13 (Would that you were cold or hot) |
14 Jul 2004 06:08:43 AM |
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On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 00:22:07 -0400 in episode
<n6d9f0l8p5ueov4rc7vlehs14m6257epnk@4ax.com> we saw our hero AngryJohn
<AngryJohnBelief@AngryJohn.net>:
On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 22:58:14 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 01:26:27 +0000 in episode
<bp19f0drojtq38uuf9furcvdgnnug29gju@4ax.com> we saw our hero homer
<xxx@xxx.com>:
If you really don't believe in God then why do you spend so much effort
trying to prove God is immoral?
You never heard of literary criticism?
You used literary in reference to the bible?
Well, in the loosest sense of the word...
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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There is no system but GNU, and Linux is one of its kernels.
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| User: "JPG" |
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| Title: Re: Bible Quote of the day for July 13 (Would that you were cold or hot) |
14 Jul 2004 07:39:57 AM |
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On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 01:26:27 GMT, homer <xxx@xxx.com> wrote:
I think this might apply to some of the atheists. I asked the
evilbible the following question once: If you really don't believe in
God then why do you spend so much effort trying to prove God is
immoral?
He flubbed that one.
I don't think evil editor is trying to show proof that an imaginary being in a
book of myths is immoral. Because it's imaginary you might as well say Santa
Claus is a child molester, or the tooth fairy is a thief.
What he *is* trying to do is just show the absurdities, the violence, sex and
general nastiness of the Bible, and how idiotic it is that people set such store
by it.
JPG
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| User: "W. Syme" |
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| Title: Re: Bible Quote of the day for July 13 (Would that you were cold or hot) |
13 Jul 2004 08:26:51 PM |
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On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 01:26:27 GMT, homer <xxx@xxx.com> wrote:
Revelation 3:14-18
And to the angel of the church in La-odice'a write: `The words of the
Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of God's creation.
15: "`I know your works: you are neither cold nor hot. Would that you
were cold or hot!
16: So, because you are lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will
spew you out of my mouth.
17: For you say, I am rich, I have prospered, and I need nothing; not
knowing that you are wretched, pitiable, poor, blind, and naked.
18: Therefore I counsel you to buy from me gold refined by fire, that
you may be rich, and white garments to clothe you and to keep the
shame of your nakedness from being seen, and salve to anoint your
eyes, that you may see.
-----------------------------
I generally use the daily mass gospel reading for my quotes, but I
make an exception here because I think this is interesting.
Notice how he says "Would that you were cold or hot!" Apparently it
is better to be "cold" than to be "lukewarm." How can this be?
I think this might apply to some of the atheists. I asked the
evilbible the following question once: If you really don't believe in
God then why do you spend so much effort trying to prove God is
immoral?
He flubbed that one.
Lukewarm means to be indifferent. people who are lukewarm do not read
the bible, do not think about God, they are completely indifferent to
the whole thing. That is the worst state to be in. This does not
describe many atheists. Many atheists know the Bible better than many
christians. They may be angry at God, but they are not indifferent.
They are not lukewarm.
I have a feeling that many "atheists" are going to make it into the
kingdom of heaven. I think some of their hearts are not as far from
God as their words suggest. And never forget, God knows what is in
your heart, and it is there that you are judged, your words do not
fool him.
How refreshing, a relatively nice post from a xian for once.
I'll have to disappoint you on the "being angry at god" thing, though.
I might be angry at xians or a believers in general, but I have no
emotions regarding mythical creatures, be it goblins, fairies,
cyclops' or God.
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Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. (1 Thessalonians 5:21)
W. Syme (pseudonym), European, non-native English speaker, "soft" atheist.
Email will not be read.
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| User: "Woden wodencharternet" |
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| Title: Re: Bible Quote of the day for July 13 (Would that you were cold or hot) |
13 Jul 2004 08:40:51 PM |
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homer <xxx@xxx.com> wrote in news:bp19f0drojtq38uuf9furcvdgnnug29gju@
4ax.com:
(Snip bible *****)
I think this might apply to some of the atheists. I asked the
evilbible the following question once: If you really don't believe in
God then why do you spend so much effort trying to prove God is
immoral?
How does one prove any fictional character has any characteristic except
by understanding the stories written about the character. If you read
your bible, how can you come to any other interpretation?
Lukewarm means to be indifferent. people who are lukewarm do not read
the bible, do not think about God, they are completely indifferent to
the whole thing. That is the worst state to be in. This does not
describe many atheists. Many atheists know the Bible better than many
christians. They may be angry at God, but they are not indifferent.
They are not lukewarm.
Another fool who thinks that our dislike of mind-robbing cults and their
beliefs is because we are "angry" at their mythical god.
I have a feeling that many "atheists" are going to make it into the
kingdom of heaven. I think some of their hearts are not as far from
God as their words suggest. And never forget, God knows what is in
your heart, and it is there that you are judged, your words do not
fool him.
I don't think this mythical "judgement" really worries us.
--
Woden
"religion is a socio-political system for controlling people's thoughts,
lives and actions based on ancient myths and superstitions, perpetrated
through generations of subtle yet pervasive brainwashing."
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