On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 00:17:05 GMT, homer tried to impress the local hens
with an act of bravery, to wit, cross posting to the atheist group when he
had nothing to say.

Still with the nothing to say Homer. I can understand that after all, you
believe in a fairy tale according to you.
Here, try something on topic for once, something you can really believe in.
At least it make more sense than your current claptrap spam.

snip, the following piece would be embarrassed to be associated with such a
pathetic quote.

& it is on topic for the bleater brigade members like you, it mentions god.

Thoughts of God by Mark Twain

walksalone who doubts not Homer will never comprehend the above, his
posting history says he lacks the personal honesty to even consider what is
written unless it agrees with his false world view.

On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 00:17:05 GMT, homer tried to impress the local hens
with an act of bravery, to wit, cross posting to the atheist group when he
had nothing to say.

Still with the nothing to say Homer. I can understand that after all, you
believe in a fairy tale according to you.
Here, try something on topic for once, something you can really believe in.
At least it make more sense than your current claptrap spam.

snip, the following piece would be embarrassed to be associated with such a
pathetic quote.

& it is on topic for the bleater brigade members like you, it mentions god.

Thoughts of God by Mark Twain

HOW OFTEN we are moved to admit the intelligence exhibited in both the
designing and the execution of some of His works. Take the fly, for
instance.
The planning of the fly was an application of pure intelligence, morals not
being concerned. Not one of us could have planned the fly, not one of us
could have constructed him; and no one would have considered it wise to
try, except under an assumed name. It is believed by some that the fly was
introduced to meet a long-felt want. In the course of ages, for some reason
or other, there have been millions of these persons, but out of this vast
multitude there has not been one who has been willing to explain what the
want was. At least satisfactorily. A few have explained that there was need
of a creature to remove disease-breeding garbage; but these being then
asked to explain what long-felt want the disease-breeding garbage was
introduced to supply, they have not been willing to undertake the contract.

There is much inconsistency concerning the fly. In all the ages he has not
had a friend, there has never been a person in the earth who could have
been persuaded to intervene between him and extermination; yet billions of
persons have excused the Hand that made him -- and this without a blush.
Would they have excused a Man in the same circumstances, a man positively
known to have invented the fly? On the contrary. For the credit of the race
let us believe it would have been all day with that man. Would persons
consider it just to reprobate in a child, with its undeveloped morals, a
scandal which they would overlook in the Pope?

When we reflect that the fly was as not invented for pastime, but in the
way of business; that he was not flung off in a heedless moment and with no
object in view but to pass the time, but was the fruit of long and
pains-taking labor and calculation, and with a definite and far-reaching,
purpose in view; that his character and conduct were planned out with cold
deliberation, that his career was foreseen and fore-ordered, and that there
was no want which he could supply, we are hopelessly puzzled, we cannot
understand the moral lapse that was able to render possible the conceiving
and the consummation of this squalid and malevolent creature.

Let us try to think the unthinkable: let us try to imagine a Man of a sort
willing to invent the fly; that is to say, a man destitute of feeling; a
man willing to wantonly torture and harass and persecute myriads of
creatures who had never done him any harm and could not if they wanted to,
and -- the majority of them -- poor dumb things not even aware of his
existence. In a word, let us try to imagine a man with so singular and so
lumbering a code of morals as this: that it is fair and right to send
afflictions upon the just -- upon the unoffending as well as upon the
offending, without discrimination.

If we can imagine such a man, that is the man that could invent the fly,
and send him out on his mission and furnish him his orders: "Depart into
the uttermost corners of the earth, and diligently do your appointed work.
Persecute the sick child; settle upon its eyes, its face, its hands, and
gnaw and pester and sting; worry and fret and madden the worn and tired
mother who watches by the child, and who humbly prays for mercy and relief
with the pathetic faith of the deceived and the unteachable. Settle upon
the soldier's festering wounds in field and hospital and drive him frantic
while he also prays, and betweentimes curses, with none to listen but you,
Fly, who get all the petting and all the protection, without even praying
for it. Harry and persecute the forlorn and forsaken wretch who is
perishing of the plague, and in his terror and despair praying; bite,
sting, feed upon his ulcers, dabble your feet in his rotten blood, gum them
thick with plague-germs -- feet cunningly designed and perfected for this
function ages ago in the beginning -- carry this freight to a hundred
tables, among the just and the unjust. the high and the low, and walk over
the food and gaum it with filth and death. Visit all; allow no man peace
till he get it in the grave; visit and afflict the hard-worked and
unoffending horse, mule, ox, *****, pester the patient cow, and
all the kindly animals that labor without fair reward here and perish
without hope of it hereafter; spare no creature, wild or tame; but
wheresoever you find one, make his life a misery, treat him as the innocent
deserve; and so please Me and increase My glory Who made the fly.

We hear much about His patience and forbearance and long-suffering; we hear
nothing about our own, which much exceeds it. We hear much about His mercy
and kindness and goodness -- in words -- the words of His Book and of His
pulpit -- and the meek multitude is content with this evidence, such as it
is, seeking no further; but whoso searcheth after a concreted sample of it
will in time acquire fatigue. There being no instances of it. For what are
gilded as mercies are not in any recorded case more than mere common
justices, and due -- due without thanks or compliment. To rescue without
personal risk a cripple from a burning house is not a mercy, it is a mere
commonplace duty; anybody would do it that could. And not by proxy, either
-- delegating the work but confiscating the credit for it. If men neglected
"God's poor" and "God's stricken and helpless ones" as He does, what would
become of them? The answer is to be found in those dark lands where man
follows His example and turns his indifferent back upon them: they get no
help at all; they cry, and plead and pray in vain, they linger and suffer,
and miserably die. If you will look at the matter rationally and without
prejudice, the proper place to hunt for the facts of His mercy, is not
where man does the mercies and He collects the praise, but in
those regions where He has the field to Himself.

It is plain that there is one moral law for heaven and another for the
earth. The pulpit assures us that wherever we see suffering and sorrow
which we can relieve and do not do it, we sin, heavily. There was never yet
a case of suffering or sorrow which God could not relieve. Does He sin,
then? If He is the Source of Morals He does -- certainly nothing can be
plainer than that, you will admit. Surely the Source of law cannot violate
law and stand unsmirched; surely the judge upon the bench cannot forbid
crime and then revel in it himself unreproached. Nevertheless we have this
curious spectacle: daily the trained parrot in the pulpit gravely delivers
himself of these ironies, which he has acquired at second-hand and adopted
without examination, to a trained congregation which accepts them without
examination, and neither the speaker nor the hearer laughs at himself. It
does seem as if we ought to be humble when we are at a bench-show, and not
put on airs of intellectual superiority there.

walksalone who doubts not Homer will never comprehend the above, his
posting history says he lacks the personal honesty to even consider what is
written unless it agrees with his false world view.

homer <xxx@xxx.com> wrote in news:a07bg0dffa9biejuq87vurq18k2v1vtrrp@
4ax.com:

(snip)

How nice of you to share your bible babble with us in alt.atheism.
But I think you should know that we really don't give a flying *****
about these superstitions and myths.

Matthew 13:31-35

31 Another parable he put before them, saying, "The kingdom
of heaven is like a grain of mustard seed which a man took
and sowed in his field; 32 it is the smallest of all seeds,
but when it has grown it is the greatest of shrubs and
becomes a tree, so that the birds of the air come and make
nests in its branches."

homer wrote:

Matthew 13:31-35

31 Another parable he put before them, saying, "The
kingdom of heaven is like a grain of mustard seed....

No, it's like a unicorn. It don't exist.