Religions > Atheism > Bible Quote of the Day for June 14 (if any one strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also)
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17 Jun 2004 11:52:39 PM |
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Bible Quote of the Day for June 14 (if any one strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also) |
Scripture: Matthew 5:38-42
38 "You have heard that it was said, `An eye for an eye and a tooth
for a tooth.' 39 But I say to you, Do not resist one who is evil. But
if any one strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also;
40 and if any one would sue you and take your coat, let him have your
cloak as well; 41 and if any one forces you to go one mile, go with
him two miles. 42 Give to him who begs from you, and do not refuse him
who would borrow from you.
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Evil is always trying to draw us in. It does this in many different
ways. It may be in a sneaky way, or in a confrontational way. Jesus
tells us here that when Evil confronts us in an angry confrontational
way, there is no way to directly fight it without becoming a part of
it. In directly fighting evil we will become evil as well. When
someone is confrontational with you, you will immediately feel the
anger in your heart. This is exactly what evil wants. It is trying to
suck you in. Don't act on it, you will be going the wrong way.
What we are told here is to ignore it. Take the high road, walk away,
refuse to allow it into your heart. When a co-worker, boss, friend,
whomever, becomes angry and confrontational with you, do not allow
evil into your heart. Do not respond in kind and become a part of it.
Just walk away.
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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| Title: Re: Bible Quote of the Day for June 14 (if any one strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also) |
18 Jun 2004 01:28:47 AM |
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"homer" <xxx@xxx.com> wrote in message
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Scripture: Matthew 5:38-42
38 "You have heard that it was said, `An eye for an eye and a tooth
for a tooth.' 39 But I say to you, Do not resist one who is evil. But
if any one strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also;
40 and if any one would sue you and take your coat, let him have your
cloak as well; 41 and if any one forces you to go one mile, go with
him two miles. 42 Give to him who begs from you, and do not refuse him
who would borrow from you.
What happens if any one tells you to shut up? From these examples above, one
would expect the good Christian to not only shut up, but leave and never
return.
What's your excuse?
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Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Bible Quote of the Day for June 14 (if any one strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also) |
18 Jun 2004 09:58:48 AM |
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On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 01:28:47 -0500 in episode
<36CdnanCMoVPFk_dRVn-gQ@io.com> we saw our hero "Denis Loubet"
<dloubet@io.com>:
"homer" <xxx@xxx.com> wrote in message
news:5cs4d098it7ebu44rucslpaip83dmds3rt@4ax.com...
Scripture: Matthew 5:38-42
38 "You have heard that it was said, `An eye for an eye and a tooth for
a tooth.' 39 But I say to you, Do not resist one who is evil. But if any
one strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also; 40 and
if any one would sue you and take your coat, let him have your cloak as
well; 41 and if any one forces you to go one mile, go with him two
miles. 42 Give to him who begs from you, and do not refuse him who would
borrow from you.
What happens if any one tells you to shut up? From these examples above,
one would expect the good Christian to not only shut up, but leave and
never return.
Funny isn't it that he says he started his own little xposting fest to
*retaliate for the xposting of Editor of EvilBible.com.
The cognitive dissonance of him posting *this tidbit as part of a
retaliation is just amazing...
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
"I think it's the worst kept secret in Washington.
That everybody - everybody I talk to in Washington
has known and fully knows what [the neo-conservative]
agenda was and what they were trying to do."
[Retired General Anthony Zinni]
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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| Title: Re: Bible Quote of the Day for June 14 (if any one strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also) |
18 Jun 2004 10:48:02 AM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <y@hoo.com-amikchi> wrote in message
news:pan.2004.06.18.14.58.47.937075@hoo.com-amikchi...
On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 01:28:47 -0500 in episode
<36CdnanCMoVPFk_dRVn-gQ@io.com> we saw our hero "Denis Loubet"
<dloubet@io.com>:
"homer" <xxx@xxx.com> wrote in message
news:5cs4d098it7ebu44rucslpaip83dmds3rt@4ax.com...
Scripture: Matthew 5:38-42
38 "You have heard that it was said, `An eye for an eye and a tooth for
a tooth.' 39 But I say to you, Do not resist one who is evil. But if
any
one strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also; 40 and
if any one would sue you and take your coat, let him have your cloak as
well; 41 and if any one forces you to go one mile, go with him two
miles. 42 Give to him who begs from you, and do not refuse him who
would
borrow from you.
What happens if any one tells you to shut up? From these examples above,
one would expect the good Christian to not only shut up, but leave and
never return.
Funny isn't it that he says he started his own little xposting fest to
*retaliate for the xposting of Editor of EvilBible.com.
The cognitive dissonance of him posting *this tidbit as part of a
retaliation is just amazing...
Obviously he's not a true Christian.
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Bible Quote of the Day for June 14 (if any one strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also) |
18 Jun 2004 09:56:49 AM |
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On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 04:52:39 +0000 in episode
<5cs4d098it7ebu44rucslpaip83dmds3rt@4ax.com> we saw our hero homer
<xxx@xxx.com>:
Scripture: Matthew 5:38-42
38 "You have heard that it was said, `An eye for an eye and a tooth for a
tooth.' 39 But I say to you, Do not resist one who is evil. But if any one
strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also; 40 and if any
one would sue you and take your coat, let him have your cloak as well; 41
and if any one forces you to go one mile, go with him two miles. 42 Give
to him who begs from you, and do not refuse him who would borrow from you.
---------------------------------
Evil is always trying to draw us in. It does this in many different ways.
It may be in a sneaky way, or in a confrontational way. Jesus tells us
here that when Evil confronts us in an angry confrontational way, there is
no way to directly fight it without becoming a part of it. In directly
fighting evil we will become evil as well. When someone is confrontational
with you, you will immediately feel the anger in your heart. This is
exactly what evil wants. It is trying to suck you in. Don't act on it, you
will be going the wrong way.
What we are told here is to ignore it. Take the high road, walk away,
refuse to allow it into your heart. When a co-worker, boss, friend,
whomever, becomes angry and confrontational with you, do not allow evil
into your heart. Do not respond in kind and become a part of it. Just walk
away.
And yet Christians regularly come to alt.atheism to shriek at the top of
their lungs.
Weird huh?
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
"I think it's the worst kept secret in Washington.
That everybody - everybody I talk to in Washington
has known and fully knows what [the neo-conservative]
agenda was and what they were trying to do."
[Retired General Anthony Zinni]
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| User: "Doc Smartass" |
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| Title: Re: Bible Quote of the Day for June 14 (if any one strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also) |
18 Jun 2004 04:38:25 PM |
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homer <xxx@xxx.com> wrote in
news:5cs4d098it7ebu44rucslpaip83dmds3rt@4ax.com:
But
if any one strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also;
This would explain why you're so two-faced. I bet dental appointments are
expensive.
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Dr. Smartass -- BAAWA Knight of Heckling -- a.a. #1939
"It is interesting to note that the death
penalty for individuals is less controversial
than the mere suggestion that a few corporations
may have forfeited their right to exist. How many
people does a company have to harm before we question
if it ought to exist?"
-- Paul Hawken
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| User: "Thales" |
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| Title: Re: Bible Quote of the Day for June 14 (if any one strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also) |
18 Jun 2004 12:38:20 PM |
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homer <xxx@xxx.com> wrote in message news:<5cs4d098it7ebu44rucslpaip83dmds3rt@4ax.com>...
Scripture: Matthew 5:38-42
38 "You have heard that it was said, `An eye for an eye and a tooth
for a tooth.' 39 But I say to you, Do not resist one who is evil. But
if any one strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also;
40 and if any one would sue you and take your coat, let him have your
cloak as well; 41 and if any one forces you to go one mile, go with
him two miles. 42 Give to him who begs from you, and do not refuse him
who would borrow from you.
---------------------------------
Evil is always trying to draw us in. It does this in many different
ways. It may be in a sneaky way, or in a confrontational way. Jesus
tells us here that when Evil confronts us in an angry confrontational
way, there is no way to directly fight it without becoming a part of
it. In directly fighting evil we will become evil as well. When
Did you get this from the posted scripture above? I fail to see how
there is no way to directly fight evil without becoming a part of it.
Please explain.
someone is confrontational with you, you will immediately feel the
anger in your heart. This is exactly what evil wants. It is trying to
suck you in. Don't act on it, you will be going the wrong way.
What we are told here is to ignore it. Take the high road, walk away,
refuse to allow it into your heart. When a co-worker, boss, friend,
whomever, becomes angry and confrontational with you, do not allow
evil into your heart. Do not respond in kind and become a part of it.
Just walk away.
Okay, this paragraph is a little better. Except I find nowhere in the
scripture above that talks about just walking away from from
confrontation. In fact, the scripture above says to oblige the evil
person, allow him to do his evil things. Please understand that I do
not post this in opposition to you, I just don't see everything you've
said in this scripture.
-Thales
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| User: "homer" |
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| Title: Re: Bible Quote of the Day for June 14 (if any one strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also) |
20 Jun 2004 09:02:55 PM |
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What we are told here is to ignore it. Take the high road, walk away,
refuse to allow it into your heart. When a co-worker, boss, friend,
whomever, becomes angry and confrontational with you, do not allow
evil into your heart. Do not respond in kind and become a part of it.
Just walk away.
Okay, this paragraph is a little better. Except I find nowhere in the
scripture above that talks about just walking away from from
confrontation. In fact, the scripture above says to oblige the evil
person, allow him to do his evil things. Please understand that I do
not post this in opposition to you, I just don't see everything you've
said in this scripture.
-Thales
What I am proposing is that this ties in with his general theme
regarding how we are to follow the good that is within us, and not
evil impulses. See my posts above for June 9 and June 10.
I think he is talking about a little bit more than just people going
around slapping each other. What is someone trying to do when they
slap you? They are trying to start a fight with you. If you respond in
kind then you are answering to the evil within you, and not the good.
Just what eviI wants. It is trying to suck you in and make you a part
of it. I think jesus is here warning us to not go there.
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| User: "Vic Sagerquist" |
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| Title: Re: Bible Quote of the Day for June 14 (if any one strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also) |
18 Jun 2004 08:29:31 PM |
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One day in alt.atheism, Also Sprach Thales:
Did you get this from the posted scripture above? I fail to see how
there is no way to directly fight evil without becoming a part of it.
Please explain.
Forget it. He's just a daily drive-by.
--
Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
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It's my funeral and I'll fry if I want to...
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| User: "Thales" |
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| Title: Re: Bible Quote of the Day for June 14 (if any one strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also) |
20 Jun 2004 03:58:13 PM |
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Vic Sagerquist <address@withheld.com> wrote in message news:<Xns950CBC4C8D5FAvicman@204.127.204.17>...
One day in alt.atheism, Also Sprach Thales:
Did you get this from the posted scripture above? I fail to see how
there is no way to directly fight evil without becoming a part of it.
Please explain.
Forget it. He's just a daily drive-by.
What? I do not understand at all what that is supposed to mean. My
question is sincere and I'm really wondering....
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| User: "Vic Sagerquist" |
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| Title: Re: Bible Quote of the Day for June 14 (if any one strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also) |
20 Jun 2004 10:32:24 PM |
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One day in alt.atheism, Also Sprach Thales:
Vic Sagerquist <address@withheld.com> wrote in message
news:<Xns950CBC4C8D5FAvicman@204.127.204.17>...
One day in alt.atheism, Also Sprach Thales:
Did you get this from the posted scripture above? I fail to see
how there is no way to directly fight evil without becoming a part
of it. Please explain.
Forget it. He's just a daily drive-by.
What? I do not understand at all what that is supposed to mean. My
question is sincere and I'm really wondering....
A drive-by poster.
It's a metaphor based on the concept of a drive-by shooting, where the
shooter blasts a victim or two, then drives off into the night never to be
heard from again.
--
Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
______________
It's my funeral and I'll fry if I want to...
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