"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote in

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"Thore Schmechtig" <WRITETOcommoner@carcosa.de> wrote in message
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No other book ever written comes close to proving reliability

from

God...

...wrong. ;)

Painful: +RIGHT :>)

Tom: As "Pastor" Dave always says, "prove it"!!

The proof that God inspired
it involves analysis of Prophecy...

Fudged after the fact to make it fit...

Painful: +Straw Man argument+

Tom: Still too stupid to understand logic?

...Scientific Insights...

Flat earth on pillars, four-legged birds and insects...

Painful: +The compass of the earth is round(Job) and Your sons shall be

like >stars in the sky(At the time 1100 or so visible+)

Tom: Really?? You mean that his sons totals in the hundreds of trillions?
Don't think so Painful. Sorry Painful, a circle isn't a sphere. You really
need to learn a little more science.

Creation...

6000 years and creation week supported by one dusty book of myths,
billions of years backed up by a mountain of evicende...

Painful: +Your contention is based on unsupported statements and circular

reasoning+

Tom: Really? Looks to me like you're the one with the unsupported
statements. As for circular reasoning you have again shown that you are
totally ignorant of the terms of logic.

...and
Concealed Evidence.

Painful: <Snip rest of house of cards>

Tom: Translation... I can't deal with the evidence.

The proof that God inspired
it involves analysis of Prophecy...

Fudged after the fact to make it fit...

+Straw Man argument+

Ah, conveniently dismissing everything as invalid that proves you
wrong, again, eh?

...Scientific Insights...

Flat earth on pillars, four-legged birds and insects...

+The compass of the earth is round(Job) and Your sons shall be like

in the sky(At the time 1100 or so visible+)

Both parts of the sentence are meaningless. If the first part is meant
as proof for a babblical claim of a spherical earth, newsflash: A
circle is a 2-dimensional, read: FLAT figure.

Creation...

6000 years and creation week supported by one dusty book of myths,
billions of years backed up by a mountain of evicende...

+Your contention is based on unsupported statements and circular

Then bring on your scientific evidence for babblical cretinism. Be
warned. If you come up with anything already debunked on
www.talkorigins.org, you will be mocked accordingly for regurgiposting
AHLs.

<Snip rest of house of cards>

How about you not building a house of cards in the first place?

Typical fundie babble, those postings of yours... make some outrageous
claim, then dismiss everything that proves you wrong as strawman,
circular reasoning et cetera ad nauseam. But go ahead, you are doing
more to debunk babblical cretinism than "we evolutionists" could ever
do on our own.



--
TOP TEN SIGNS YOU'RE A (CHRISTIAN) FUNDAMENTALIST

10 - You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of
gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when
someone denies the existence of yours.

9 - You feel insulted and "dehumanized" when scientists
say that people evolved from other life forms, but you
have no problem with the Biblical claim that we were
created from dirt.

8 - You laugh at polytheists, but you have no problem
believing in a Triune God.

7 - Your face turns purple when you hear of the
"atrocities" attributed to Allah, but you don't even
flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah slaughtered all
the babies of Egypt in "Exodus" and ordered the
elimination of entire ethnic groups in "Joshua" --
including women, children, and trees!

6 - You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, and
Greek claims about gods sleeping with women, but you have
no problem believing that the Holy Spirit impregnated
Mary, who then gave birth to a man-god who got killed,
came back to life and then ascended into the sky.

5 - You are willing to spend your life looking for little
loopholes in the scientifically established age of Earth
(4.55 billion years), but you find nothing wrong with
believing dates recorded by Bronze Age tribesmen sitting
in their tents and guessing that Earth is a couple of
generations old.

4 - You believe that the entire population of this planet
with the exception of those who share your beliefs --
though excluding those in all rival sects - will spend
Eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering. And yet
consider your religion the most "tolerant" and "loving."

3 - While modern science, history, geology, biology, and
physics have failed to convince you otherwise, some idiot
rolling around on the floor speaking in "tongues" may be
all the evidence you need to "prove" Christianity.

2 - You define 0.01% as a "high success rate" when it
comes to answered prayers. You consider that to be
evidence that prayer works. And you think that the
remaining 99.99% FAILURE was simply the will of God.

1 - You actually know a lot less than many atheists and
agnostics do about the Bible, Christianity, and church
history - but still call yourself a Christian.

"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote in

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"Thore Schmechtig" <WRITETOcommoner@carcosa.de> wrote in message
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*chuckle* Interesting that the church of painful IGNORANCE did NOT
reply to my original on-topic posting, showing the cowardice of

true fundie to deal with anything that contains valid,
not-easy-to-refute points disproving his wishful thinking. ;)

+*Smirk* Interesting I didn't see it,nor do I see any relevance in

what

it

may contain :>)+

Go ahead liar... you prove to all the world the inherent dishonesty of
fundyism. ;)



--
UNWRITTEN RULES OF (PSEUDO-CHRISTIAN) FUNDAMENTALISM

1. "I'm right and you are wrong".
2. Never admit that you are wrong, even if you really are.
3. When you have nothing to say, hurl insults.
4. Regard and portray your own violence, whether physical,

psychological,

or verbal, at all times as defensive
4a. Specific example for 4.: Cry for "freedom of religion", but

followers of other faiths want the same freedom and courts agree, scream
"Persecution!"

5. Be prepared at all times to lie and bluster, particularly when

into a corner in an argument
5a. When caught lying, always accuse the opposition of lying rather

be honest and admit the obvious

6. Never accept responsibility for any mess you have personally

7. When you are forced to admit to an error, regard the whole process

error and correction as part of God's personal plan for you and not as

something for which you should apologise retract or make amends except
verbally and secretly to God himself
8. Always see yourself and you personal actions as part of God's plans

for

the world. Recognise that even your errors are just part of Gods will

for

the betterment of mankind.
9.Profess humility but avoid the actual experience of it.
10.Refuse to take in information that differs from your own view and
oppose all such information through classification of such information

in

a derogatory and simplistic manner(eg by categorising it as left wing
propaganda)
11.Refuse to accept that truth is not black and white; that reality is
complex and there are shades of grey
12.Refuse to forgive anyone else for anything unless you purport to
forgive on behalf of other people unconnected with you for whom you

don't

have that right anyhow.

Painful: +Thor,since when have I ever lied to you,you are my best example

for the

existence for God thus far.
Keep it coming+

Tom: You lie with every post you make, so what else is new. He'll keep it
coming, you can count on that :-).