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Big Bird Dino Fossil found in Mongolia |
No, not the Muppet. A better artist's rendition can be found at his site:
http://www.world-science.net/othernews/070613_gigantoraptor.htm
Click on it to blow it up.
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Gigantic bird-like dinosaur stirs debate
By Calum MacLeod, USA TODAY
BEIJING ‹ The dinosaur world's latest star had a toothless beak, waved
feathered arms incapable of flight and may have hunted only plants. But
if you met Gigantoraptor erlianensis in a Mongolian forest 70 million
years ago, best to have given it a wide berth. At more than 16 feet tall
and roughly 3,000 pounds, the beast could stand eyeball-to-eyeball with
a tyrannosaur, Chinese researchers say.
The bones of what its discoverers call the world's largest birdlike
dinosaur were revealed Wednesday in Beijing. The announcement came two
years after the remains were dug from a mud hill near the Inner
Mongolian city of Erlian.
Most theories suggest carnivorous dinosaurs shrank as they grew more
birdlike. This latest find is about 35 times heavier than other similar
feathered dinosaurs, called oviraptors, which rarely exceeded a body
mass of 88 pounds.
"This could be the largest ever species to have feathers," says Xu Xing,
the lead scientist behind the discovery, reported in the journal Nature.
"Some experts may not believe this dinosaur had feathers, as it is so
big, and we did not find traces of feathers, but from the evidence we
unearthed Š we are confident in our research," Xu, 38, says.
Gigantoraptor erlianensis "is a very cool dinosaur, a very interesting
find," says paleontologist Thomas Holtz Jr. of the University of
Maryland. The previous largest oviraptor was the size of a horse. Most
oviraptors are about as large as a child. "And this new one is the size
of a tyrannosaur. I mean, whoa, that's large," Holtz says.
Yet it was not even fully grown. "It was 11 when it died, and at the
growth stage of a high school graduate, so it still had some growing to
do," Xu says.
Plenty more research needs to be done, Xu says. The long neck and small
head suggest a plant eater, yet its sharp claws resemble those of a
carnivore.
The Gobi desert area of northern China, bordering Mongolia, where
Gigantoraptor erlianensis was unearthed, is a famously barren landscape
today. But back in the Late Cretaceous period, "it was an ideal place
for dinosaurs, with lakes, plenty of vegetation and a hot climate," says
professor Tan Lin, vice director of the Longhao Geology and Paleontology
Research Institute of Inner Mongolia, who co-wrote the study and was
present at the discovery.
Good fortune followed the team at the time of the discovery in April
2005. Japanese television station NHK was interviewing Xu and Tan "when
one of our team unearthed some bones for the cameras," Tan says.
The 7.8-inch thighbone seemed unusually large, and further digs in July
produced more bones and the realization this was something extraordinary.
"In 41 years of dinosaur hunting, this is my top discovery. I was so
excited," Tan recalls. "We all got drunk on King of Grasslands," a
Mongolian brew.
The nearby city of Erlian (Erenhot in Mongolian) is hoping to cash in.
"We are the world hometown of dinosaurs," the city's Communist Party
boss, Zhang Guohua, says proudly. "We are building a new dinosaur museum
and the world's first dinosaur street, lined with 50 statues" of
dinosaurs.
Dinosaur-themed parks and museums are springing up all over China, Tan
says. "There is a real dinosaur fever in China now. It is aimed at
tourism but also to protect our dinosaur resources."
---
http://tinyurl.com/2qj9ec
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
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| User: "William Wingstedt" |
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14 Jun 2007 10:04:51 AM |
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On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 17:00:23 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
No, not the Muppet. A better artist's rendition can be found at his site:
http://www.world-science.net/othernews/070613_gigantoraptor.htm
Click on it to blow it up.
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Gigantic bird-like dinosaur stirs debate
By Calum MacLeod, USA TODAY
BEIJING ‹ The dinosaur world's latest star had a toothless beak, waved
feathered arms incapable of flight and may have hunted only plants. But
if you met Gigantoraptor erlianensis in a Mongolian forest 70 million
years ago, best to have given it a wide berth. At more than 16 feet tall
and roughly 3,000 pounds, the beast could stand eyeball-to-eyeball with
a tyrannosaur, Chinese researchers say.
The bones of what its discoverers call the world's largest birdlike
dinosaur were revealed Wednesday in Beijing. The announcement came two
years after the remains were dug from a mud hill near the Inner
Mongolian city of Erlian.
Most theories suggest carnivorous dinosaurs shrank as they grew more
birdlike. This latest find is about 35 times heavier than other similar
feathered dinosaurs, called oviraptors, which rarely exceeded a body
mass of 88 pounds.
"This could be the largest ever species to have feathers," says Xu Xing,
the lead scientist behind the discovery, reported in the journal Nature.
"Some experts may not believe this dinosaur had feathers, as it is so
big, and we did not find traces of feathers, but from the evidence we
unearthed Š we are confident in our research," Xu, 38, says.
Gigantoraptor erlianensis "is a very cool dinosaur, a very interesting
find," says paleontologist Thomas Holtz Jr. of the University of
Maryland. The previous largest oviraptor was the size of a horse. Most
oviraptors are about as large as a child. "And this new one is the size
of a tyrannosaur. I mean, whoa, that's large," Holtz says.
Yet it was not even fully grown. "It was 11 when it died, and at the
growth stage of a high school graduate, so it still had some growing to
do," Xu says.
Plenty more research needs to be done, Xu says. The long neck and small
head suggest a plant eater, yet its sharp claws resemble those of a
carnivore.
The Gobi desert area of northern China, bordering Mongolia, where
Gigantoraptor erlianensis was unearthed, is a famously barren landscape
today. But back in the Late Cretaceous period, "it was an ideal place
for dinosaurs, with lakes, plenty of vegetation and a hot climate," says
professor Tan Lin, vice director of the Longhao Geology and Paleontology
Research Institute of Inner Mongolia, who co-wrote the study and was
present at the discovery.
Good fortune followed the team at the time of the discovery in April
2005. Japanese television station NHK was interviewing Xu and Tan "when
one of our team unearthed some bones for the cameras," Tan says.
The 7.8-inch thighbone seemed unusually large, and further digs in July
produced more bones and the realization this was something extraordinary.
"In 41 years of dinosaur hunting, this is my top discovery. I was so
excited," Tan recalls. "We all got drunk on King of Grasslands," a
Mongolian brew.
The nearby city of Erlian (Erenhot in Mongolian) is hoping to cash in.
"We are the world hometown of dinosaurs," the city's Communist Party
boss, Zhang Guohua, says proudly. "We are building a new dinosaur museum
and the world's first dinosaur street, lined with 50 statues" of
dinosaurs.
Dinosaur-themed parks and museums are springing up all over China, Tan
says. "There is a real dinosaur fever in China now. It is aimed at
tourism but also to protect our dinosaur resources."
The Chicago Tribune, to their credit, has an article about this on the
front page today. Then they spoiled it with the sub-title, "Giant
Flies in Face of Theory of Evolution." I guess they had to pander to
the creationists...the only thing they say in the article is that this
find "underscores the twists and turns evolution can take." I can't
find the part in "Evolution Theory" that prohibits it from taking
twists and turns but apparently this find has violated it.
---
http://tinyurl.com/2qj9ec
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
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| User: "johac" |
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14 Jun 2007 06:15:45 PM |
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In article <46715668.518680222@Newsgroups.Comcast.net>,
(William Wingstedt) wrote:
On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 17:00:23 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
No, not the Muppet. A better artist's rendition can be found at his site:
http://www.world-science.net/othernews/070613_gigantoraptor.htm
Click on it to blow it up.
---
Gigantic bird-like dinosaur stirs debate
By Calum MacLeod, USA TODAY
BEIJING ‹ The dinosaur world's latest star had a toothless beak, waved
feathered arms incapable of flight and may have hunted only plants. But
if you met Gigantoraptor erlianensis in a Mongolian forest 70 million
years ago, best to have given it a wide berth. At more than 16 feet tall
and roughly 3,000 pounds, the beast could stand eyeball-to-eyeball with
a tyrannosaur, Chinese researchers say.
The bones of what its discoverers call the world's largest birdlike
dinosaur were revealed Wednesday in Beijing. The announcement came two
years after the remains were dug from a mud hill near the Inner
Mongolian city of Erlian.
Most theories suggest carnivorous dinosaurs shrank as they grew more
birdlike. This latest find is about 35 times heavier than other similar
feathered dinosaurs, called oviraptors, which rarely exceeded a body
mass of 88 pounds.
"This could be the largest ever species to have feathers," says Xu Xing,
the lead scientist behind the discovery, reported in the journal Nature.
"Some experts may not believe this dinosaur had feathers, as it is so
big, and we did not find traces of feathers, but from the evidence we
unearthed Š we are confident in our research," Xu, 38, says.
Gigantoraptor erlianensis "is a very cool dinosaur, a very interesting
find," says paleontologist Thomas Holtz Jr. of the University of
Maryland. The previous largest oviraptor was the size of a horse. Most
oviraptors are about as large as a child. "And this new one is the size
of a tyrannosaur. I mean, whoa, that's large," Holtz says.
Yet it was not even fully grown. "It was 11 when it died, and at the
growth stage of a high school graduate, so it still had some growing to
do," Xu says.
Plenty more research needs to be done, Xu says. The long neck and small
head suggest a plant eater, yet its sharp claws resemble those of a
carnivore.
The Gobi desert area of northern China, bordering Mongolia, where
Gigantoraptor erlianensis was unearthed, is a famously barren landscape
today. But back in the Late Cretaceous period, "it was an ideal place
for dinosaurs, with lakes, plenty of vegetation and a hot climate," says
professor Tan Lin, vice director of the Longhao Geology and Paleontology
Research Institute of Inner Mongolia, who co-wrote the study and was
present at the discovery.
Good fortune followed the team at the time of the discovery in April
2005. Japanese television station NHK was interviewing Xu and Tan "when
one of our team unearthed some bones for the cameras," Tan says.
The 7.8-inch thighbone seemed unusually large, and further digs in July
produced more bones and the realization this was something extraordinary.
"In 41 years of dinosaur hunting, this is my top discovery. I was so
excited," Tan recalls. "We all got drunk on King of Grasslands," a
Mongolian brew.
The nearby city of Erlian (Erenhot in Mongolian) is hoping to cash in.
"We are the world hometown of dinosaurs," the city's Communist Party
boss, Zhang Guohua, says proudly. "We are building a new dinosaur museum
and the world's first dinosaur street, lined with 50 statues" of
dinosaurs.
Dinosaur-themed parks and museums are springing up all over China, Tan
says. "There is a real dinosaur fever in China now. It is aimed at
tourism but also to protect our dinosaur resources."
The Chicago Tribune, to their credit, has an article about this on the
front page today. Then they spoiled it with the sub-title, "Giant
Flies in Face of Theory of Evolution." I guess they had to pander to
the creationists...the only thing they say in the article is that this
find "underscores the twists and turns evolution can take." I can't
find the part in "Evolution Theory" that prohibits it from taking
twists and turns but apparently this find has violated it.
The Chicago Tribune. Isn't that the paper that Robert Novak writes for?
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
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| User: "Pangur Ban" |
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14 Jun 2007 09:39:47 AM |
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johac wrote :
No, not the Muppet. A better artist's rendition can be found at his site:
http://www.world-science.net/othernews/070613_gigantoraptor.htm
Click on it to blow it up.
---
Gigantic bird-like dinosaur stirs debate
By Calum MacLeod, USA TODAY
BEIJING ‹ The dinosaur world's latest star had a toothless beak, waved
feathered arms incapable of flight and may have hunted only plants. But
if you met Gigantoraptor erlianensis in a Mongolian forest 70 million
years ago, best to have given it a wide berth. At more than 16 feet tall
and roughly 3,000 pounds, the beast could stand eyeball-to-eyeball with
a tyrannosaur, Chinese researchers say.
The bones of what its discoverers call the world's largest birdlike
dinosaur were revealed Wednesday in Beijing. The announcement came two
years after the remains were dug from a mud hill near the Inner
Mongolian city of Erlian.
Most theories suggest carnivorous dinosaurs shrank as they grew more
birdlike. This latest find is about 35 times heavier than other similar
feathered dinosaurs, called oviraptors, which rarely exceeded a body
mass of 88 pounds.
"This could be the largest ever species to have feathers," says Xu Xing,
the lead scientist behind the discovery, reported in the journal Nature.
"Some experts may not believe this dinosaur had feathers, as it is so
big, and we did not find traces of feathers, but from the evidence we
unearthed Å we are confident in our research," Xu, 38, says.
Gigantoraptor erlianensis "is a very cool dinosaur, a very interesting
find," says paleontologist Thomas Holtz Jr. of the University of
Maryland. The previous largest oviraptor was the size of a horse. Most
oviraptors are about as large as a child. "And this new one is the size
of a tyrannosaur. I mean, whoa, that's large," Holtz says.
Yet it was not even fully grown. "It was 11 when it died, and at the
growth stage of a high school graduate, so it still had some growing to
do," Xu says.
Plenty more research needs to be done, Xu says. The long neck and small
head suggest a plant eater, yet its sharp claws resemble those of a
carnivore.
The Gobi desert area of northern China, bordering Mongolia, where
Gigantoraptor erlianensis was unearthed, is a famously barren landscape
today. But back in the Late Cretaceous period, "it was an ideal place
for dinosaurs, with lakes, plenty of vegetation and a hot climate," says
professor Tan Lin, vice director of the Longhao Geology and Paleontology
Research Institute of Inner Mongolia, who co-wrote the study and was
present at the discovery.
Good fortune followed the team at the time of the discovery in April
2005. Japanese television station NHK was interviewing Xu and Tan "when
one of our team unearthed some bones for the cameras," Tan says.
The 7.8-inch thighbone seemed unusually large, and further digs in July
produced more bones and the realization this was something extraordinary.
"In 41 years of dinosaur hunting, this is my top discovery. I was so
excited," Tan recalls. "We all got drunk on King of Grasslands," a
Mongolian brew.
The nearby city of Erlian (Erenhot in Mongolian) is hoping to cash in.
"We are the world hometown of dinosaurs," the city's Communist Party
boss, Zhang Guohua, says proudly. "We are building a new dinosaur museum
and the world's first dinosaur street, lined with 50 statues" of
dinosaurs.
Dinosaur-themed parks and museums are springing up all over China, Tan
says. "There is a real dinosaur fever in China now. It is aimed at
tourism but also to protect our dinosaur resources."
---
http://tinyurl.com/2qj9ec
Wow!!! Ivy was inspired to do an imitation!
Pang
--
Quam bene vivas refert, non quam diu.
Seneca
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| User: "johac" |
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14 Jun 2007 06:19:23 PM |
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In article <mn.72077d76db06b863.73271@att.net>,
Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote:
johac wrote :
No, not the Muppet. A better artist's rendition can be found at his site:
http://www.world-science.net/othernews/070613_gigantoraptor.htm
Click on it to blow it up.
---
Gigantic bird-like dinosaur stirs debate
By Calum MacLeod, USA TODAY
BEIJING Ð The dinosaur world's latest star had a toothless beak, waved
feathered arms incapable of flight and may have hunted only plants. But
if you met Gigantoraptor erlianensis in a Mongolian forest 70 million
years ago, best to have given it a wide berth. At more than 16 feet tall
and roughly 3,000 pounds, the beast could stand eyeball-to-eyeball with
a tyrannosaur, Chinese researchers say.
The bones of what its discoverers call the world's largest birdlike
dinosaur were revealed Wednesday in Beijing. The announcement came two
years after the remains were dug from a mud hill near the Inner
Mongolian city of Erlian.
Most theories suggest carnivorous dinosaurs shrank as they grew more
birdlike. This latest find is about 35 times heavier than other similar
feathered dinosaurs, called oviraptors, which rarely exceeded a body
mass of 88 pounds.
"This could be the largest ever species to have feathers," says Xu Xing,
the lead scientist behind the discovery, reported in the journal Nature.
"Some experts may not believe this dinosaur had feathers, as it is so
big, and we did not find traces of feathers, but from the evidence we
unearthed · we are confident in our research," Xu, 38, says.
Gigantoraptor erlianensis "is a very cool dinosaur, a very interesting
find," says paleontologist Thomas Holtz Jr. of the University of
Maryland. The previous largest oviraptor was the size of a horse. Most
oviraptors are about as large as a child. "And this new one is the size
of a tyrannosaur. I mean, whoa, that's large," Holtz says.
Yet it was not even fully grown. "It was 11 when it died, and at the
growth stage of a high school graduate, so it still had some growing to
do," Xu says.
Plenty more research needs to be done, Xu says. The long neck and small
head suggest a plant eater, yet its sharp claws resemble those of a
carnivore.
The Gobi desert area of northern China, bordering Mongolia, where
Gigantoraptor erlianensis was unearthed, is a famously barren landscape
today. But back in the Late Cretaceous period, "it was an ideal place
for dinosaurs, with lakes, plenty of vegetation and a hot climate," says
professor Tan Lin, vice director of the Longhao Geology and Paleontology
Research Institute of Inner Mongolia, who co-wrote the study and was
present at the discovery.
Good fortune followed the team at the time of the discovery in April
2005. Japanese television station NHK was interviewing Xu and Tan "when
one of our team unearthed some bones for the cameras," Tan says.
The 7.8-inch thighbone seemed unusually large, and further digs in July
produced more bones and the realization this was something extraordinary.
"In 41 years of dinosaur hunting, this is my top discovery. I was so
excited," Tan recalls. "We all got drunk on King of Grasslands," a
Mongolian brew.
The nearby city of Erlian (Erenhot in Mongolian) is hoping to cash in.
"We are the world hometown of dinosaurs," the city's Communist Party
boss, Zhang Guohua, says proudly. "We are building a new dinosaur museum
and the world's first dinosaur street, lined with 50 statues" of
dinosaurs.
Dinosaur-themed parks and museums are springing up all over China, Tan
says. "There is a real dinosaur fever in China now. It is aimed at
tourism but also to protect our dinosaur resources."
---
http://tinyurl.com/2qj9ec
Wow!!! Ivy was inspired to do an imitation!
Probably recognized one of her long lost ancestors. :-)
Pang
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
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| User: "Pangur Ban" |
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15 Jun 2007 06:23:27 AM |
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johac expressed precisely :
In article <mn.72077d76db06b863.73271@att.net>,
Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote:
johac wrote :
No, not the Muppet. A better artist's rendition can be found at his site:
http://www.world-science.net/othernews/070613_gigantoraptor.htm
Click on it to blow it up.
---
Gigantic bird-like dinosaur stirs debate
By Calum MacLeod, USA TODAY
BEIJING Ð The dinosaur world's latest star had a toothless beak, waved
feathered arms incapable of flight and may have hunted only plants. But
if you met Gigantoraptor erlianensis in a Mongolian forest 70 million
years ago, best to have given it a wide berth. At more than 16 feet tall
and roughly 3,000 pounds, the beast could stand eyeball-to-eyeball with
a tyrannosaur, Chinese researchers say.
The bones of what its discoverers call the world's largest birdlike
dinosaur were revealed Wednesday in Beijing. The announcement came two
years after the remains were dug from a mud hill near the Inner
Mongolian city of Erlian.
Most theories suggest carnivorous dinosaurs shrank as they grew more
birdlike. This latest find is about 35 times heavier than other similar
feathered dinosaurs, called oviraptors, which rarely exceeded a body
mass of 88 pounds.
"This could be the largest ever species to have feathers," says Xu Xing,
the lead scientist behind the discovery, reported in the journal Nature.
"Some experts may not believe this dinosaur had feathers, as it is so
big, and we did not find traces of feathers, but from the evidence we
unearthed · we are confident in our research," Xu, 38, says.
Gigantoraptor erlianensis "is a very cool dinosaur, a very interesting
find," says paleontologist Thomas Holtz Jr. of the University of
Maryland. The previous largest oviraptor was the size of a horse. Most
oviraptors are about as large as a child. "And this new one is the size
of a tyrannosaur. I mean, whoa, that's large," Holtz says.
Yet it was not even fully grown. "It was 11 when it died, and at the
growth stage of a high school graduate, so it still had some growing to
do," Xu says.
Plenty more research needs to be done, Xu says. The long neck and small
head suggest a plant eater, yet its sharp claws resemble those of a
carnivore.
The Gobi desert area of northern China, bordering Mongolia, where
Gigantoraptor erlianensis was unearthed, is a famously barren landscape
today. But back in the Late Cretaceous period, "it was an ideal place
for dinosaurs, with lakes, plenty of vegetation and a hot climate," says
professor Tan Lin, vice director of the Longhao Geology and Paleontology
Research Institute of Inner Mongolia, who co-wrote the study and was
present at the discovery.
Good fortune followed the team at the time of the discovery in April
2005. Japanese television station NHK was interviewing Xu and Tan "when
one of our team unearthed some bones for the cameras," Tan says.
The 7.8-inch thighbone seemed unusually large, and further digs in July
produced more bones and the realization this was something extraordinary.
"In 41 years of dinosaur hunting, this is my top discovery. I was so
excited," Tan recalls. "We all got drunk on King of Grasslands," a
Mongolian brew.
The nearby city of Erlian (Erenhot in Mongolian) is hoping to cash in.
"We are the world hometown of dinosaurs," the city's Communist Party
boss, Zhang Guohua, says proudly. "We are building a new dinosaur museum
and the world's first dinosaur street, lined with 50 statues" of
dinosaurs.
Dinosaur-themed parks and museums are springing up all over China, Tan
says. "There is a real dinosaur fever in China now. It is aimed at
tourism but also to protect our dinosaur resources."
---
http://tinyurl.com/2qj9ec
Wow!!! Ivy was inspired to do an imitation!
Probably recognized one of her long lost ancestors. :-)
Pang
lol I think so. She played "Big Bird" all day.
Pang
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Quam bene vivas refert, non quam diu.
Seneca
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| User: "johac" |
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15 Jun 2007 06:44:31 PM |
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In article <mn.79437d76de0e6cd3.73271@att.net>,
Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote:
johac expressed precisely :
In article <mn.72077d76db06b863.73271@att.net>,
Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote:
johac wrote :
No, not the Muppet. A better artist's rendition can be found at his site:
http://www.world-science.net/othernews/070613_gigantoraptor.htm
Click on it to blow it up.
---
Gigantic bird-like dinosaur stirs debate
By Calum MacLeod, USA TODAY
BEIJING <ETH> The dinosaur world's latest star had a toothless beak,
waved
feathered arms incapable of flight and may have hunted only plants. But
if you met Gigantoraptor erlianensis in a Mongolian forest 70 million
years ago, best to have given it a wide berth. At more than 16 feet tall
and roughly 3,000 pounds, the beast could stand eyeball-to-eyeball with
a tyrannosaur, Chinese researchers say.
The bones of what its discoverers call the world's largest birdlike
dinosaur were revealed Wednesday in Beijing. The announcement came two
years after the remains were dug from a mud hill near the Inner
Mongolian city of Erlian.
Most theories suggest carnivorous dinosaurs shrank as they grew more
birdlike. This latest find is about 35 times heavier than other similar
feathered dinosaurs, called oviraptors, which rarely exceeded a body
mass of 88 pounds.
"This could be the largest ever species to have feathers," says Xu Xing,
the lead scientist behind the discovery, reported in the journal Nature.
"Some experts may not believe this dinosaur had feathers, as it is so
big, and we did not find traces of feathers, but from the evidence we
unearthed · we are confident in our research," Xu, 38, says.
Gigantoraptor erlianensis "is a very cool dinosaur, a very interesting
find," says paleontologist Thomas Holtz Jr. of the University of
Maryland. The previous largest oviraptor was the size of a horse. Most
oviraptors are about as large as a child. "And this new one is the size
of a tyrannosaur. I mean, whoa, that's large," Holtz says.
Yet it was not even fully grown. "It was 11 when it died, and at the
growth stage of a high school graduate, so it still had some growing to
do," Xu says.
Plenty more research needs to be done, Xu says. The long neck and small
head suggest a plant eater, yet its sharp claws resemble those of a
carnivore.
The Gobi desert area of northern China, bordering Mongolia, where
Gigantoraptor erlianensis was unearthed, is a famously barren landscape
today. But back in the Late Cretaceous period, "it was an ideal place
for dinosaurs, with lakes, plenty of vegetation and a hot climate," says
professor Tan Lin, vice director of the Longhao Geology and Paleontology
Research Institute of Inner Mongolia, who co-wrote the study and was
present at the discovery.
Good fortune followed the team at the time of the discovery in April
2005. Japanese television station NHK was interviewing Xu and Tan "when
one of our team unearthed some bones for the cameras," Tan says.
The 7.8-inch thighbone seemed unusually large, and further digs in July
produced more bones and the realization this was something extraordinary.
"In 41 years of dinosaur hunting, this is my top discovery. I was so
excited," Tan recalls. "We all got drunk on King of Grasslands," a
Mongolian brew.
The nearby city of Erlian (Erenhot in Mongolian) is hoping to cash in.
"We are the world hometown of dinosaurs," the city's Communist Party
boss, Zhang Guohua, says proudly. "We are building a new dinosaur museum
and the world's first dinosaur street, lined with 50 statues" of
dinosaurs.
Dinosaur-themed parks and museums are springing up all over China, Tan
says. "There is a real dinosaur fever in China now. It is aimed at
tourism but also to protect our dinosaur resources."
---
http://tinyurl.com/2qj9ec
Wow!!! Ivy was inspired to do an imitation!
Probably recognized one of her long lost ancestors. :-)
Pang
lol I think so. She played "Big Bird" all day.
All right! does she have a friend named Kermit? :-)
Pang
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
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| User: "Pangur Ban" |
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| Title: Re: Big Bird Dino Fossil found in Mongolia |
15 Jun 2007 11:35:38 PM |
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Carefully enucleating johac wrote :
In article <mn.79437d76de0e6cd3.73271@att.net>,
Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote:
johac expressed precisely :
In article <mn.72077d76db06b863.73271@att.net>,
Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote:
johac wrote :
No, not the Muppet. A better artist's rendition can be found at his site:
http://www.world-science.net/othernews/070613_gigantoraptor.htm
Click on it to blow it up.
---
Gigantic bird-like dinosaur stirs debate
By Calum MacLeod, USA TODAY
BEIJING <ETH> The dinosaur world's latest star had a toothless beak,
waved
feathered arms incapable of flight and may have hunted only plants. But
if you met Gigantoraptor erlianensis in a Mongolian forest 70 million
years ago, best to have given it a wide berth. At more than 16 feet tall
and roughly 3,000 pounds, the beast could stand eyeball-to-eyeball with
a tyrannosaur, Chinese researchers say.
The bones of what its discoverers call the world's largest birdlike
dinosaur were revealed Wednesday in Beijing. The announcement came two
years after the remains were dug from a mud hill near the Inner
Mongolian city of Erlian.
Most theories suggest carnivorous dinosaurs shrank as they grew more
birdlike. This latest find is about 35 times heavier than other similar
feathered dinosaurs, called oviraptors, which rarely exceeded a body
mass of 88 pounds.
"This could be the largest ever species to have feathers," says Xu Xing,
the lead scientist behind the discovery, reported in the journal Nature.
"Some experts may not believe this dinosaur had feathers, as it is so
big, and we did not find traces of feathers, but from the evidence we
unearthed · we are confident in our research," Xu, 38, says.
Gigantoraptor erlianensis "is a very cool dinosaur, a very interesting
find," says paleontologist Thomas Holtz Jr. of the University of
Maryland. The previous largest oviraptor was the size of a horse. Most
oviraptors are about as large as a child. "And this new one is the size
of a tyrannosaur. I mean, whoa, that's large," Holtz says.
Yet it was not even fully grown. "It was 11 when it died, and at the
growth stage of a high school graduate, so it still had some growing to
do," Xu says.
Plenty more research needs to be done, Xu says. The long neck and small
head suggest a plant eater, yet its sharp claws resemble those of a
carnivore.
The Gobi desert area of northern China, bordering Mongolia, where
Gigantoraptor erlianensis was unearthed, is a famously barren landscape
today. But back in the Late Cretaceous period, "it was an ideal place
for dinosaurs, with lakes, plenty of vegetation and a hot climate," says
professor Tan Lin, vice director of the Longhao Geology and Paleontology
Research Institute of Inner Mongolia, who co-wrote the study and was
present at the discovery.
Good fortune followed the team at the time of the discovery in April
2005. Japanese television station NHK was interviewing Xu and Tan "when
one of our team unearthed some bones for the cameras," Tan says.
The 7.8-inch thighbone seemed unusually large, and further digs in July
produced more bones and the realization this was something extraordinary.
"In 41 years of dinosaur hunting, this is my top discovery. I was so
excited," Tan recalls. "We all got drunk on King of Grasslands," a
Mongolian brew.
The nearby city of Erlian (Erenhot in Mongolian) is hoping to cash in.
"We are the world hometown of dinosaurs," the city's Communist Party
boss, Zhang Guohua, says proudly. "We are building a new dinosaur museum
and the world's first dinosaur street, lined with 50 statues" of
dinosaurs.
Dinosaur-themed parks and museums are springing up all over China, Tan
says. "There is a real dinosaur fever in China now. It is aimed at
tourism but also to protect our dinosaur resources."
---
http://tinyurl.com/2qj9ec
Wow!!! Ivy was inspired to do an imitation! Probably recognized one of
her long lost ancestors. :-)
Pang
lol I think so. She played "Big Bird" all day.
All right! does she have a friend named Kermit? :-)
Pang
Actually - I have a new visitor. A desert toad has taken up residence
outside the front door. I have a light, it attracts bugs, and Mr.
Kermit Toad dines lavishly. I've tried to open the door so as to get a
good look and identify him - but he takes off when I unlock the door.
My Chree is fascinated by him and guards the security door till I shut
the main door at bedtime. If he hops, she makes a churling sound
(don't know how else to describe it).
Pang
--
Tu ne cede malis sed contra audentior ito.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Big Bird Dino Fossil found in Mongolia |
16 Jun 2007 12:46:12 AM |
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In article <mn.7d4b7d7636ee97ba.73271@att.net>,
Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote:
Carefully enucleating johac wrote :
In article <mn.79437d76de0e6cd3.73271@att.net>,
Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote:
johac expressed precisely :
In article <mn.72077d76db06b863.73271@att.net>,
Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote:
johac wrote :
No, not the Muppet. A better artist's rendition can be found at his
site:
http://www.world-science.net/othernews/070613_gigantoraptor.htm
Click on it to blow it up.
---
Gigantic bird-like dinosaur stirs debate
By Calum MacLeod, USA TODAY
BEIJING <ETH> The dinosaur world's latest star had a toothless beak,
waved
feathered arms incapable of flight and may have hunted only plants. But
if you met Gigantoraptor erlianensis in a Mongolian forest 70 million
years ago, best to have given it a wide berth. At more than 16 feet
tall
and roughly 3,000 pounds, the beast could stand eyeball-to-eyeball with
a tyrannosaur, Chinese researchers say.
The bones of what its discoverers call the world's largest birdlike
dinosaur were revealed Wednesday in Beijing. The announcement came two
years after the remains were dug from a mud hill near the Inner
Mongolian city of Erlian.
Most theories suggest carnivorous dinosaurs shrank as they grew more
birdlike. This latest find is about 35 times heavier than other similar
feathered dinosaurs, called oviraptors, which rarely exceeded a body
mass of 88 pounds.
"This could be the largest ever species to have feathers," says Xu
Xing,
the lead scientist behind the discovery, reported in the journal
Nature.
"Some experts may not believe this dinosaur had feathers, as it is so
big, and we did not find traces of feathers, but from the evidence we
unearthed · we are confident in our research," Xu, 38, says.
Gigantoraptor erlianensis "is a very cool dinosaur, a very interesting
find," says paleontologist Thomas Holtz Jr. of the University of
Maryland. The previous largest oviraptor was the size of a horse. Most
oviraptors are about as large as a child. "And this new one is the size
of a tyrannosaur. I mean, whoa, that's large," Holtz says.
Yet it was not even fully grown. "It was 11 when it died, and at the
growth stage of a high school graduate, so it still had some growing to
do," Xu says.
Plenty more research needs to be done, Xu says. The long neck and small
head suggest a plant eater, yet its sharp claws resemble those of a
carnivore.
The Gobi desert area of northern China, bordering Mongolia, where
Gigantoraptor erlianensis was unearthed, is a famously barren landscape
today. But back in the Late Cretaceous period, "it was an ideal place
for dinosaurs, with lakes, plenty of vegetation and a hot climate,"
says
professor Tan Lin, vice director of the Longhao Geology and
Paleontology
Research Institute of Inner Mongolia, who co-wrote the study and was
present at the discovery.
Good fortune followed the team at the time of the discovery in April
2005. Japanese television station NHK was interviewing Xu and Tan "when
one of our team unearthed some bones for the cameras," Tan says.
The 7.8-inch thighbone seemed unusually large, and further digs in July
produced more bones and the realization this was something
extraordinary.
"In 41 years of dinosaur hunting, this is my top discovery. I was so
excited," Tan recalls. "We all got drunk on King of Grasslands," a
Mongolian brew.
The nearby city of Erlian (Erenhot in Mongolian) is hoping to cash in.
"We are the world hometown of dinosaurs," the city's Communist Party
boss, Zhang Guohua, says proudly. "We are building a new dinosaur
museum
and the world's first dinosaur street, lined with 50 statues" of
dinosaurs.
Dinosaur-themed parks and museums are springing up all over China, Tan
says. "There is a real dinosaur fever in China now. It is aimed at
tourism but also to protect our dinosaur resources."
---
http://tinyurl.com/2qj9ec
Wow!!! Ivy was inspired to do an imitation! Probably recognized one of
her long lost ancestors. :-)
Pang
lol I think so. She played "Big Bird" all day.
All right! does she have a friend named Kermit? :-)
Pang
Actually - I have a new visitor. A desert toad has taken up residence
outside the front door. I have a light, it attracts bugs, and Mr.
Kermit Toad dines lavishly. I've tried to open the door so as to get a
good look and identify him - but he takes off when I unlock the door.
My Chree is fascinated by him and guards the security door till I shut
the main door at bedtime. If he hops, she makes a churling sound
(don't know how else to describe it).
You sure have a lot of 'critters' at your place. Both outside and
inside. Say "Hi!" to Mr. Toad for me. :-)
Pang
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
.
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| User: "Pangur Ban" |
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| Title: Re: Big Bird Dino Fossil found in Mongolia |
16 Jun 2007 05:57:50 PM |
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johac wrote on 6/15/2007 :
In article <mn.7d4b7d7636ee97ba.73271@att.net>,
Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote:
Carefully enucleating johac wrote :
In article <mn.79437d76de0e6cd3.73271@att.net>,
Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote:
johac expressed precisely :
In article <mn.72077d76db06b863.73271@att.net>,
Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote:
johac wrote :
No, not the Muppet. A better artist's rendition can be found at his
site:
http://www.world-science.net/othernews/070613_gigantoraptor.htm
Click on it to blow it up.
---
Gigantic bird-like dinosaur stirs debate
By Calum MacLeod, USA TODAY
BEIJING <ETH> The dinosaur world's latest star had a toothless beak,
waved
feathered arms incapable of flight and may have hunted only plants. But
if you met Gigantoraptor erlianensis in a Mongolian forest 70 million
years ago, best to have given it a wide berth. At more than 16 feet
tall
and roughly 3,000 pounds, the beast could stand eyeball-to-eyeball with
a tyrannosaur, Chinese researchers say.
The bones of what its discoverers call the world's largest birdlike
dinosaur were revealed Wednesday in Beijing. The announcement came two
years after the remains were dug from a mud hill near the Inner
Mongolian city of Erlian.
Most theories suggest carnivorous dinosaurs shrank as they grew more
birdlike. This latest find is about 35 times heavier than other similar
feathered dinosaurs, called oviraptors, which rarely exceeded a body
mass of 88 pounds.
"This could be the largest ever species to have feathers," says Xu
Xing,
the lead scientist behind the discovery, reported in the journal
Nature.
"Some experts may not believe this dinosaur had feathers, as it is so
big, and we did not find traces of feathers, but from the evidence we
unearthed · we are confident in our research," Xu, 38, says.
Gigantoraptor erlianensis "is a very cool dinosaur, a very interesting
find," says paleontologist Thomas Holtz Jr. of the University of
Maryland. The previous largest oviraptor was the size of a horse. Most
oviraptors are about as large as a child. "And this new one is the size
of a tyrannosaur. I mean, whoa, that's large," Holtz says.
Yet it was not even fully grown. "It was 11 when it died, and at the
growth stage of a high school graduate, so it still had some growing to
do," Xu says.
Plenty more research needs to be done, Xu says. The long neck and small
head suggest a plant eater, yet its sharp claws resemble those of a
carnivore.
The Gobi desert area of northern China, bordering Mongolia, where
Gigantoraptor erlianensis was unearthed, is a famously barren landscape
today. But back in the Late Cretaceous period, "it was an ideal place
for dinosaurs, with lakes, plenty of vegetation and a hot climate,"
says
professor Tan Lin, vice director of the Longhao Geology and
Paleontology
Research Institute of Inner Mongolia, who co-wrote the study and was
present at the discovery.
Good fortune followed the team at the time of the discovery in April
2005. Japanese television station NHK was interviewing Xu and Tan "when
one of our team unearthed some bones for the cameras," Tan says.
The 7.8-inch thighbone seemed unusually large, and further digs in July
produced more bones and the realization this was something
extraordinary.
"In 41 years of dinosaur hunting, this is my top discovery. I was so
excited," Tan recalls. "We all got drunk on King of Grasslands," a
Mongolian brew.
The nearby city of Erlian (Erenhot in Mongolian) is hoping to cash in.
"We are the world hometown of dinosaurs," the city's Communist Party
boss, Zhang Guohua, says proudly. "We are building a new dinosaur
museum
and the world's first dinosaur street, lined with 50 statues" of
dinosaurs.
Dinosaur-themed parks and museums are springing up all over China, Tan
says. "There is a real dinosaur fever in China now. It is aimed at
tourism but also to protect our dinosaur resources."
---
http://tinyurl.com/2qj9ec
Wow!!! Ivy was inspired to do an imitation! Probably recognized one of
her long lost ancestors. :-)
Pang
lol I think so. She played "Big Bird" all day. All right! does she have
a friend named Kermit? :-)
Pang
Actually - I have a new visitor. A desert toad has taken up residence
outside the front door. I have a light, it attracts bugs, and Mr.
Kermit Toad dines lavishly. I've tried to open the door so as to get a
good look and identify him - but he takes off when I unlock the door.
My Chree is fascinated by him and guards the security door till I shut
the main door at bedtime. If he hops, she makes a churling sound
(don't know how else to describe it).
You sure have a lot of 'critters' at your place. Both outside and
inside. Say "Hi!" to Mr. Toad for me. :-)
I know I have more than I see. Bear come down from the mountains and
show up in the community west of my house. They had to pass me to get
there. The vet suspects a cougar/mountain lion killed my neighbor's
dogs. Coyote are common. Those are the big ones I don't see; I am
sure there are smaller visitors I miss - kangaroo rats, for example.
Pang
--
Quam bene vivas refert, non quam diu.
Seneca
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Big Bird Dino Fossil found in Mongolia |
17 Jun 2007 12:55:02 AM |
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In article <mn.83f97d766804c6e8.73271@att.net>,
Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote:
johac wrote on 6/15/2007 :
In article <mn.7d4b7d7636ee97ba.73271@att.net>,
Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote:
Carefully enucleating johac wrote :
In article <mn.79437d76de0e6cd3.73271@att.net>,
Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote:
johac expressed precisely :
In article <mn.72077d76db06b863.73271@att.net>,
Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote:
johac wrote :
No, not the Muppet. A better artist's rendition can be found at his
site:
http://www.world-science.net/othernews/070613_gigantoraptor.htm
Click on it to blow it up.
---
Gigantic bird-like dinosaur stirs debate
By Calum MacLeod, USA TODAY
BEIJING <ETH> The dinosaur world's latest star had a toothless beak,
waved
feathered arms incapable of flight and may have hunted only plants.
But
if you met Gigantoraptor erlianensis in a Mongolian forest 70 million
years ago, best to have given it a wide berth. At more than 16 feet
tall
and roughly 3,000 pounds, the beast could stand eyeball-to-eyeball
with
a tyrannosaur, Chinese researchers say.
The bones of what its discoverers call the world's largest birdlike
dinosaur were revealed Wednesday in Beijing. The announcement came
two
years after the remains were dug from a mud hill near the Inner
Mongolian city of Erlian.
Most theories suggest carnivorous dinosaurs shrank as they grew more
birdlike. This latest find is about 35 times heavier than other
similar
feathered dinosaurs, called oviraptors, which rarely exceeded a body
mass of 88 pounds.
"This could be the largest ever species to have feathers," says Xu
Xing,
the lead scientist behind the discovery, reported in the journal
Nature.
"Some experts may not believe this dinosaur had feathers, as it is so
big, and we did not find traces of feathers, but from the evidence we
unearthed · we are confident in our research," Xu, 38, says.
Gigantoraptor erlianensis "is a very cool dinosaur, a very
interesting
find," says paleontologist Thomas Holtz Jr. of the University of
Maryland. The previous largest oviraptor was the size of a horse.
Most
oviraptors are about as large as a child. "And this new one is the
size
of a tyrannosaur. I mean, whoa, that's large," Holtz says.
Yet it was not even fully grown. "It was 11 when it died, and at the
growth stage of a high school graduate, so it still had some growing
to
do," Xu says.
Plenty more research needs to be done, Xu says. The long neck and
small
head suggest a plant eater, yet its sharp claws resemble those of a
carnivore.
The Gobi desert area of northern China, bordering Mongolia, where
Gigantoraptor erlianensis was unearthed, is a famously barren
landscape
today. But back in the Late Cretaceous period, "it was an ideal place
for dinosaurs, with lakes, plenty of vegetation and a hot climate,"
says
professor Tan Lin, vice director of the Longhao Geology and
Paleontology
Research Institute of Inner Mongolia, who co-wrote the study and was
present at the discovery.
Good fortune followed the team at the time of the discovery in April
2005. Japanese television station NHK was interviewing Xu and Tan
"when
one of our team unearthed some bones for the cameras," Tan says.
The 7.8-inch thighbone seemed unusually large, and further digs in
July
produced more bones and the realization this was something
extraordinary.
"In 41 years of dinosaur hunting, this is my top discovery. I was so
excited," Tan recalls. "We all got drunk on King of Grasslands," a
Mongolian brew.
The nearby city of Erlian (Erenhot in Mongolian) is hoping to cash
in.
"We are the world hometown of dinosaurs," the city's Communist Party
boss, Zhang Guohua, says proudly. "We are building a new dinosaur
museum
and the world's first dinosaur street, lined with 50 statues" of
dinosaurs.
Dinosaur-themed parks and museums are springing up all over China,
Tan
says. "There is a real dinosaur fever in China now. It is aimed at
tourism but also to protect our dinosaur resources."
---
http://tinyurl.com/2qj9ec
Wow!!! Ivy was inspired to do an imitation! Probably recognized one
of
her long lost ancestors. :-)
Pang
lol I think so. She played "Big Bird" all day. All right! does she
have
a friend named Kermit? :-)
Pang
Actually - I have a new visitor. A desert toad has taken up residence
outside the front door. I have a light, it attracts bugs, and Mr.
Kermit Toad dines lavishly. I've tried to open the door so as to get a
good look and identify him - but he takes off when I unlock the door.
My Chree is fascinated by him and guards the security door till I shut
the main door at bedtime. If he hops, she makes a churling sound
(don't know how else to describe it).
You sure have a lot of 'critters' at your place. Both outside and
inside. Say "Hi!" to Mr. Toad for me. :-)
I know I have more than I see. Bear come down from the mountains and
show up in the community west of my house. They had to pass me to get
there. The vet suspects a cougar/mountain lion killed my neighbor's
dogs. Coyote are common. Those are the big ones I don't see; I am
sure there are smaller visitors I miss - kangaroo rats, for example.
Even though where I live is all built up, there are still coyotes
around. Every once in a while, you hear about them killing people's
pets. In the outlying suburbs, mountain lions are sometimes seen. No
bears, but a mother and cub were seen up in LA, not too far away.
Since I live near a salt marsh, I see lots of waterfowl. Ducks, herons,
cranes, hawks that prey on the smaller birds and once I saw what I
believe was a osprey (some think what I saw was an eagle).
Not as much as you, but enough to remind me that I'm in the 'Wild West'.
Pang
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
.
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| User: "Pangur Ban" |
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| Title: Re: Big Bird Dino Fossil found in Mongolia |
17 Jun 2007 09:20:44 AM |
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johac asserted :
In article <mn.83f97d766804c6e8.73271@att.net>,
Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote:
johac wrote on 6/15/2007 :
In article <mn.7d4b7d7636ee97ba.73271@att.net>,
Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote:
Carefully enucleating johac wrote :
In article <mn.79437d76de0e6cd3.73271@att.net>,
Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote:
johac expressed precisely :
In article <mn.72077d76db06b863.73271@att.net>,
Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote:
johac wrote :
No, not the Muppet. A better artist's rendition can be found at his
site:
http://www.world-science.net/othernews/070613_gigantoraptor.htm
Click on it to blow it up.
---
Gigantic bird-like dinosaur stirs debate
By Calum MacLeod, USA TODAY
BEIJING <ETH> The dinosaur world's latest star had a toothless beak,
waved
feathered arms incapable of flight and may have hunted only plants.
But
if you met Gigantoraptor erlianensis in a Mongolian forest 70 million
years ago, best to have given it a wide berth. At more than 16 feet
tall
and roughly 3,000 pounds, the beast could stand eyeball-to-eyeball
with
a tyrannosaur, Chinese researchers say.
The bones of what its discoverers call the world's largest birdlike
dinosaur were revealed Wednesday in Beijing. The announcement came
two
years after the remains were dug from a mud hill near the Inner
Mongolian city of Erlian.
Most theories suggest carnivorous dinosaurs shrank as they grew more
birdlike. This latest find is about 35 times heavier than other
similar
feathered dinosaurs, called oviraptors, which rarely exceeded a body
mass of 88 pounds.
"This could be the largest ever species to have feathers," says Xu
Xing,
the lead scientist behind the discovery, reported in the journal
Nature.
"Some experts may not believe this dinosaur had feathers, as it is so
big, and we did not find traces of feathers, but from the evidence we
unearthed · we are confident in our research," Xu, 38, says.
Gigantoraptor erlianensis "is a very cool dinosaur, a very
interesting
find," says paleontologist Thomas Holtz Jr. of the University of
Maryland. The previous largest oviraptor was the size of a horse.
Most
oviraptors are about as large as a child. "And this new one is the
size
of a tyrannosaur. I mean, whoa, that's large," Holtz says.
Yet it was not even fully grown. "It was 11 when it died, and at the
growth stage of a high school graduate, so it still had some growing
to
do," Xu says.
Plenty more research needs to be done, Xu says. The long neck and
small
head suggest a plant eater, yet its sharp claws resemble those of a
carnivore.
The Gobi desert area of northern China, bordering Mongolia, where
Gigantoraptor erlianensis was unearthed, is a famously barren
landscape
today. But back in the Late Cretaceous period, "it was an ideal place
for dinosaurs, with lakes, plenty of vegetation and a hot climate,"
says
professor Tan Lin, vice director of the Longhao Geology and
Paleontology
Research Institute of Inner Mongolia, who co-wrote the study and was
present at the discovery.
Good fortune followed the team at the time of the discovery in April
2005. Japanese television station NHK was interviewing Xu and Tan
"when
one of our team unearthed some bones for the cameras," Tan says.
The 7.8-inch thighbone seemed unusually large, and further digs in
July
produced more bones and the realization this was something
extraordinary.
"In 41 years of dinosaur hunting, this is my top discovery. I was so
excited," Tan recalls. "We all got drunk on King of Grasslands," a
Mongolian brew.
The nearby city of Erlian (Erenhot in Mongolian) is hoping to cash
in.
"We are the world hometown of dinosaurs," the city's Communist Party
boss, Zhang Guohua, says proudly. "We are building a new dinosaur
museum
and the world's first dinosaur street, lined with 50 statues" of
dinosaurs.
Dinosaur-themed parks and museums are springing up all over China,
Tan
says. "There is a real dinosaur fever in China now. It is aimed at
tourism but also to protect our dinosaur resources."
---
http://tinyurl.com/2qj9ec
Wow!!! Ivy was inspired to do an imitation! Probably recognized one
of
her long lost ancestors. :-)
Pang
lol I think so. She played "Big Bird" all day. All right! does she
have
a friend named Kermit? :-)
Pang
Actually - I have a new visitor. A desert toad has taken up residence
outside the front door. I have a light, it attracts bugs, and Mr.
Kermit Toad dines lavishly. I've tried to open the door so as to get a
good look and identify him - but he takes off when I unlock the door.
My Chree is fascinated by him and guards the security door till I shut
the main door at bedtime. If he hops, she makes a churling sound
(don't know how else to describe it).
You sure have a lot of 'critters' at your place. Both outside and
inside. Say "Hi!" to Mr. Toad for me. :-)
I know I have more than I see. Bear come down from the mountains and
show up in the community west of my house. They had to pass me to get
there. The vet suspects a cougar/mountain lion killed my neighbor's
dogs. Coyote are common. Those are the big ones I don't see; I am
sure there are smaller visitors I miss - kangaroo rats, for example.
Even though where I live is all built up, there are still coyotes
around. Every once in a while, you hear about them killing people's
pets. In the outlying suburbs, mountain lions are sometimes seen. No
bears, but a mother and cub were seen up in LA, not too far away.
Since I live near a salt marsh, I see lots of waterfowl. Ducks, herons,
cranes, hawks that prey on the smaller birds and once I saw what I
believe was a osprey (some think what I saw was an eagle).
Not as much as you, but enough to remind me that I'm in the 'Wild West'.
*Nod* - I love it and hate to see the "build-up" of humanity in once
wild areas. *sigh* A 1,600 unit community is being planned for the
West Mesa. I'd like to know where they plan to get the water!!! This
is a desert with a falling water table and in a long drought!!!!!
Btw, Mr. K. Toad brought a friend to the feast last night. I wish I
could get close enough to identify them!!! Maybe I have a breeding
pair??? BABIES!!!!
I'll have to wait and see.
Pang
--
Aut viam inveniam aut faciam.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Big Bird Dino Fossil found in Mongolia |
17 Jun 2007 05:36:08 PM |
|
|
In article <mn.89f47d761f40ad85.73271@att.net>,
Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote:
johac asserted :
In article <mn.83f97d766804c6e8.73271@att.net>,
Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote:
johac wrote on 6/15/2007 :
In article <mn.7d4b7d7636ee97ba.73271@att.net>,
Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote:
Carefully enucleating johac wrote :
In article <mn.79437d76de0e6cd3.73271@att.net>,
Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote:
johac expressed precisely :
In article <mn.72077d76db06b863.73271@att.net>,
Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote:
johac wrote :
No, not the Muppet. A better artist's rendition can be found at his
site:
http://www.world-science.net/othernews/070613_gigantoraptor.htm
Click on it to blow it up.
---
Gigantic bird-like dinosaur stirs debate
By Calum MacLeod, USA TODAY
BEIJING <ETH> The dinosaur world's latest star had a toothless
beak,
waved
feathered arms incapable of flight and may have hunted only plants.
But
if you met Gigantoraptor erlianensis in a Mongolian forest 70
million
years ago, best to have given it a wide berth. At more than 16 feet
tall
and roughly 3,000 pounds, the beast could stand eyeball-to-eyeball
with
a tyrannosaur, Chinese researchers say.
The bones of what its discoverers call the world's largest birdlike
dinosaur were revealed Wednesday in Beijing. The announcement came
two
years after the remains were dug from a mud hill near the Inner
Mongolian city of Erlian.
Most theories suggest carnivorous dinosaurs shrank as they grew
more
birdlike. This latest find is about 35 times heavier than other
similar
feathered dinosaurs, called oviraptors, which rarely exceeded a
body
mass of 88 pounds.
"This could be the largest ever species to have feathers," says Xu
Xing,
the lead scientist behind the discovery, reported in the journal
Nature.
"Some experts may not believe this dinosaur had feathers, as it is
so
big, and we did not find traces of feathers, but from the evidence
we
unearthed · we are confident in our research," Xu, 38, says.
Gigantoraptor erlianensis "is a very cool dinosaur, a very
interesting
find," says paleontologist Thomas Holtz Jr. of the University of
Maryland. The previous largest oviraptor was the size of a horse.
Most
oviraptors are about as large as a child. "And this new one is the
size
of a tyrannosaur. I mean, whoa, that's large," Holtz says.
Yet it was not even fully grown. "It was 11 when it died, and at
the
growth stage of a high school graduate, so it still had some
growing
to
do," Xu says.
Plenty more research needs to be done, Xu says. The long neck and
small
head suggest a plant eater, yet its sharp claws resemble those of a
carnivore.
The Gobi desert area of northern China, bordering Mongolia, where
Gigantoraptor erlianensis was unearthed, is a famously barren
landscape
today. But back in the Late Cretaceous period, "it was an ideal
place
for dinosaurs, with lakes, plenty of vegetation and a hot climate,"
says
professor Tan Lin, vice director of the Longhao Geology and
Paleontology
Research Institute of Inner Mongolia, who co-wrote the study and
was
present at the discovery.
Good fortune followed the team at the time of the discovery in
April
2005. Japanese television station NHK was interviewing Xu and Tan
"when
one of our team unearthed some bones for the cameras," Tan says.
The 7.8-inch thighbone seemed unusually large, and further digs in
July
produced more bones and the realization this was something
extraordinary.
"In 41 years of dinosaur hunting, this is my top discovery. I was
so
excited," Tan recalls. "We all got drunk on King of Grasslands," a
Mongolian brew.
The nearby city of Erlian (Erenhot in Mongolian) is hoping to cash
in.
"We are the world hometown of dinosaurs," the city's Communist
Party
boss, Zhang Guohua, says proudly. "We are building a new dinosaur
museum
and the world's first dinosaur street, lined with 50 statues" of
dinosaurs.
Dinosaur-themed parks and museums are springing up all over China,
Tan
says. "There is a real dinosaur fever in China now. It is aimed at
tourism but also to protect our dinosaur resources."
---
http://tinyurl.com/2qj9ec
Wow!!! Ivy was inspired to do an imitation! Probably recognized
one
of
her long lost ancestors. :-)
Pang
lol I think so. She played "Big Bird" all day. All right! does she
have
a friend named Kermit? :-)
Pang
Actually - I have a new visitor. A desert toad has taken up residence
outside the front door. I have a light, it attracts bugs, and Mr.
Kermit Toad dines lavishly. I've tried to open the door so as to get a
good look and identify him - but he takes off when I unlock the door.
My Chree is fascinated by him and guards the security door till I shut
the main door at bedtime. If he hops, she makes a churling sound
(don't know how else to describe it).
You sure have a lot of 'critters' at your place. Both outside and
inside. Say "Hi!" to Mr. Toad for me. :-)
I know I have more than I see. Bear come down from the mountains and
show up in the community west of my house. They had to pass me to get
there. The vet suspects a cougar/mountain lion killed my neighbor's
dogs. Coyote are common. Those are the big ones I don't see; I am
sure there are smaller visitors I miss - kangaroo rats, for example.
Even though where I live is all built up, there are still coyotes
around. Every once in a while, you hear about them killing people's
pets. In the outlying suburbs, mountain lions are sometimes seen. No
bears, but a mother and cub were seen up in LA, not too far away.
Since I live near a salt marsh, I see lots of waterfowl. Ducks, herons,
cranes, hawks that prey on the smaller birds and once I saw what I
believe was a osprey (some think what I saw was an eagle).
Not as much as you, but enough to remind me that I'm in the 'Wild West'.
*Nod* - I love it and hate to see the "build-up" of humanity in once
wild areas. *sigh* A 1,600 unit community is being planned for the
West Mesa. I'd like to know where they plan to get the water!!! This
is a desert with a falling water table and in a long drought!!!!!
I know! We're having the same problem in SoCal. We get almost all of our
water from the Colorado river, which is overused now and in danger of
running dry. Yet they keep on putting up huge sprawling developments all
over the place. And each house has it's lawn and each industrial
building is surrounded by lush landscaping and then there are the golf
courses. Industry takes a big share of the water and agriculture takes
even more.
There is a catastrophe, worthy of inclusion in the next edition of Jared
Diamond's "Collapse", staring us in the face, and no one in authority
even seems to notice. Their motto is "Growth is good." They need to be
reminded that unrestricted growth is not always a good thing.
Unrestricted growth in biology has a name. It is called cancer.
Sorry for the rant, but this is a subject I feel strongly about.
Btw, Mr. K. Toad brought a friend to the feast last night. I wish I
could get close enough to identify them!!! Maybe I have a breeding
pair??? BABIES!!!!
Congratulations Mom! :-)
I'll have to wait and see.
Pang
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
.
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| User: "Pangur Ban" |
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| Title: Re: Big Bird Dino Fossil found in Mongolia |
18 Jun 2007 09:48:47 AM |
|
|
johac opined :
In article <mn.89f47d761f40ad85.73271@att.net>,
Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote:
johac asserted :
In article <mn.83f97d766804c6e8.73271@att.net>,
Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote:
johac wrote on 6/15/2007 :
In article <mn.7d4b7d7636ee97ba.73271@att.net>,
Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote:
Carefully enucleating johac wrote :
In article <mn.79437d76de0e6cd3.73271@att.net>,
Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote:
johac expressed precisely :
In article <mn.72077d76db06b863.73271@att.net>,
Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote:
johac wrote :
No, not the Muppet. A better artist's rendition can be found at his
site:
http://www.world-science.net/othernews/070613_gigantoraptor.htm
Click on it to blow it up.
---
Gigantic bird-like dinosaur stirs debate
By Calum MacLeod, USA TODAY
BEIJING <ETH> The dinosaur world's latest star had a toothless
beak,
waved
feathered arms incapable of flight and may have hunted only plants.
But
if you met Gigantoraptor erlianensis in a Mongolian forest 70
million
years ago, best to have given it a wide berth. At more than 16 feet
tall
and roughly 3,000 pounds, the beast could stand eyeball-to-eyeball
with
a tyrannosaur, Chinese researchers say.
The bones of what its discoverers call the world's largest birdlike
dinosaur were revealed Wednesday in Beijing. The announcement came
two
years after the remains were dug from a mud hill near the Inner
Mongolian city of Erlian.
Most theories suggest carnivorous dinosaurs shrank as they grew
more
birdlike. This latest find is about 35 times heavier than other
similar
feathered dinosaurs, called oviraptors, which rarely exceeded a
body
mass of 88 pounds.
"This could be the largest ever species to have feathers," says Xu
Xing,
the lead scientist behind the discovery, reported in the journal
Nature.
"Some experts may not believe this dinosaur had feathers, as it is
so
big, and we did not find traces of feathers, but from the evidence
we
unearthed · we are confident in our research," Xu, 38, says.
Gigantoraptor erlianensis "is a very cool dinosaur, a very
interesting
find," says paleontologist Thomas Holtz Jr. of the University of
Maryland. The previous largest oviraptor was the size of a horse.
Most
oviraptors are about as large as a child. "And this new one is the
size
of a tyrannosaur. I mean, whoa, that's large," Holtz says.
Yet it was not even fully grown. "It was 11 when it died, and at
the
growth stage of a high school graduate, so it still had some
growing
to
do," Xu says.
Plenty more research needs to be done, Xu says. The long neck and
small
head suggest a plant eater, yet its sharp claws resemble those of a
carnivore.
The Gobi desert area of northern China, bordering Mongolia, where
Gigantoraptor erlianensis was unearthed, is a famously barren
landscape
today. But back in the Late Cretaceous period, "it was an ideal
place
for dinosaurs, with lakes, plenty of vegetation and a hot climate,"
says
professor Tan Lin, vice director of the Longhao Geology and
Paleontology
Research Institute of Inner Mongolia, who co-wrote the study and
was
present at the discovery.
Good fortune followed the team at the time of the discovery in
April
2005. Japanese television station NHK was interviewing Xu and Tan
"when
one of our team unearthed some bones for the cameras," Tan says.
The 7.8-inch thighbone seemed unusually large, and further digs in
July
produced more bones and the realization this was something
extraordinary.
"In 41 years of dinosaur hunting, this is my top discovery. I was
so
excited," Tan recalls. "We all got drunk on King of Grasslands," a
Mongolian brew.
The nearby city of Erlian (Erenhot in Mongolian) is hoping to cash
in.
"We are the world hometown of dinosaurs," the city's Communist
Party
boss, Zhang Guohua, says proudly. "We are building a new dinosaur
museum
and the world's first dinosaur street, lined with 50 statues" of
dinosaurs.
Dinosaur-themed parks and museums are springing up all over China,
Tan
says. "There is a real dinosaur fever in China now. It is aimed at
tourism but also to protect our dinosaur resources."
---
http://tinyurl.com/2qj9ec
Wow!!! Ivy was inspired to do an imitation! Probably recognized
one
of
her long lost ancestors. :-)
Pang
lol I think so. She played "Big Bird" all day. All right! does she
have
a friend named Kermit? :-)
Pang
Actually - I have a new visitor. A desert toad has taken up residence
outside the front door. I have a light, it attracts bugs, and Mr.
Kermit Toad dines lavishly. I've tried to open the door so as to get a
good look and identify him - but he takes off when I unlock the door.
My Chree is fascinated by him and guards the security door till I shut
the main door at bedtime. If he hops, she makes a churling sound
(don't know how else to describe it).
You sure have a lot of 'critters' at your place. Both outside and
inside. Say "Hi!" to Mr. Toad for me. :-)
I know I have more than I see. Bear come down from the mountains and
show up in the community west of my house. They had to pass me to get
there. The vet suspects a cougar/mountain lion killed my neighbor's
dogs. Coyote are common. Those are the big ones I don't see; I am
sure there are smaller visitors I miss - kangaroo rats, for example.
Even though where I live is all built up, there are still coyotes
around. Every once in a while, you hear about them killing people's
pets. In the outlying suburbs, mountain lions are sometimes seen. No
bears, but a mother and cub were seen up in LA, not too far away.
Since I live near a salt marsh, I see lots of waterfowl. Ducks, herons,
cranes, hawks that prey on the smaller birds and once I saw what I
believe was a osprey (some think what I saw was an eagle).
Not as much as you, but enough to remind me that I'm in the 'Wild West'.
*Nod* - I love it and hate to see the "build-up" of humanity in once
wild areas. *sigh* A 1,600 unit community is being planned for the
West Mesa. I'd like to know where they plan to get the water!!! This
is a desert with a falling water table and in a long drought!!!!!
I know! We're having the same problem in SoCal. We get almost all of our
water from the Colorado river, which is overused now and in danger of
running dry. Yet they keep on putting up huge sprawling developments all
over the place. And each house has it's lawn and each industrial
building is surrounded by lush landscaping and then there are the golf
courses. Industry takes a big share of the water and agriculture takes
even more.
There is a catastrophe, worthy of inclusion in the next edition of Jared
Diamond's "Collapse", staring us in the face, and no one in authority
even seems to notice. Their motto is "Growth is good." They need to be
reminded that unrestricted growth is not always a good thing.
Unrestricted growth in biology has a name. It is called cancer.
Sorry for the rant, but this is a subject I feel strongly about.
I could have written it myself as I agree with every word.... only the
locale is different!
Btw, Mr. K. Toad brought a friend to the feast last night. I wish I
could get close enough to identify them!!! Maybe I have a breeding
pair??? BABIES!!!!
Congratulations Mom! :-)
To be accurate: stepmom or guardian (definition of godmother fits too)
I'll have to wait and see.
Pang
--
De inimico non loquaris sed cogites.
.
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| User: "johac" |
|
| Title: Re: Big Bird Dino Fossil found in Mongolia |
18 Jun 2007 05:37:55 PM |
|
|
In article <mn.92107d766bafbae3.73271@att.net>,
Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote:
johac opined :
In article <mn.89f47d761f40ad85.73271@att.net>,
Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote:
johac asserted :
In article <mn.83f97d766804c6e8.73271@att.net>,
Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote:
johac wrote on 6/15/2007 :
In article <mn.7d4b7d7636ee97ba.73271@att.net>,
Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote:
Carefully enucleating johac wrote :
In article <mn.79437d76de0e6cd3.73271@att.net>,
Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote:
johac expressed precisely :
In article <mn.72077d76db06b863.73271@att.net>,
Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote:
johac wrote :
No, not the Muppet. A better artist's rendition can be found at
his
site:
http://www.world-science.net/othernews/070613_gigantoraptor.htm
Click on it to blow it up.
---
Gigantic bird-like dinosaur stirs debate
By Calum MacLeod, USA TODAY
BEIJING <ETH> The dinosaur world's latest star had a toothless
beak,
waved
feathered arms incapable of flight and may have hunted only
plants.
But
if you met Gigantoraptor erlianensis in a Mongolian forest 70
million
years ago, best to have given it a wide berth. At more than 16
feet
tall
and roughly 3,000 pounds, the beast could stand
eyeball-to-eyeball
with
a tyrannosaur, Chinese researchers say.
The bones of what its discoverers call the world's largest
birdlike
dinosaur were revealed Wednesday in Beijing. The announcement
came
two
years after the remains were dug from a mud hill near the Inner
Mongolian city of Erlian.
Most theories suggest carnivorous dinosaurs shrank as they grew
more
birdlike. This latest find is about 35 times heavier than other
similar
feathered dinosaurs, called oviraptors, which rarely exceeded a
body
mass of 88 pounds.
"This could be the largest ever species to have feathers," says
Xu
Xing,
the lead scientist behind the discovery, reported in the journal
Nature.
"Some experts may not believe this dinosaur had feathers, as it
is
so
big, and we did not find traces of feathers, but from the
evidence
we
unearthed · we are confident in our research," Xu, 38, says.
Gigantoraptor erlianensis "is a very cool dinosaur, a very
interesting
find," says paleontologist Thomas Holtz Jr. of the University of
Maryland. The previous largest oviraptor was the size of a horse.
Most
oviraptors are about as large as a child. "And this new one is
the
size
of a tyrannosaur. I mean, whoa, that's large," Holtz says.
Yet it was not even fully grown. "It was 11 when it died, and at
the
growth stage of a high school graduate, so it still had some
growing
to
do," Xu says.
Plenty more research needs to be done, Xu says. The long neck and
small
head suggest a plant eater, yet its sharp claws resemble those of
a
carnivore.
The Gobi desert area of northern China, bordering Mongolia, where
Gigantoraptor erlianensis was unearthed, is a famously barren
landscape
today. But back in the Late Cretaceous period, "it was an ideal
place
for dinosaurs, with lakes, plenty of vegetation and a hot
climate,"
says
professor Tan Lin, vice director of the Longhao Geology and
Paleontology
Research Institute of Inner Mongolia, who co-wrote the study and
was
present at the discovery.
Good fortune followed the team at the time of the discovery in
April
2005. Japanese television station NHK was interviewing Xu and Tan
"when
one of our team unearthed some bones for the cameras," Tan says.
The 7.8-inch thighbone seemed unusually large, and further digs
in
July
produced more bones and the realization this was something
extraordinary.
"In 41 years of dinosaur hunting, this is my top discovery. I was
so
excited," Tan recalls. "We all got drunk on King of Grasslands,"
a
Mongolian brew.
The nearby city of Erlian (Erenhot in Mongolian) is hoping to
cash
in.
"We are the world hometown of dinosaurs," the city's Communist
Party
boss, Zhang Guohua, says proudly. "We are building a new dinosaur
museum
and the world's first dinosaur street, lined with 50 statues" of
dinosaurs.
Dinosaur-themed parks and museums are springing up all over
China,
Tan
says. "There is a real dinosaur fever in China now. It is aimed
at
tourism but also to protect our dinosaur resources."
---
http://tinyurl.com/2qj9ec
Wow!!! Ivy was inspired to do an imitation! Probably recognized
one
of
her long lost ancestors. :-)
Pang
lol I think so. She played "Big Bird" all day. All right! does
she
have
a friend named Kermit? :-)
Pang
Actually - I have a new visitor. A desert toad has taken up residence
outside the front door. I have a light, it attracts bugs, and Mr.
Kermit Toad dines lavishly. I've tried to open the door so as to get
a
good look and identify him - but he takes off when I unlock the door.
My Chree is fascinated by him and guards the security door till I shut
the main door at bedtime. If he hops, she makes a churling sound
(don't know how else to describe it).
You sure have a lot of 'critters' at your place. Both outside and
inside. Say "Hi!" to Mr. Toad for me. :-)
I know I have more than I see. Bear come down from the mountains and
show up in the community west of my house. They had to pass me to get
there. The vet suspects a cougar/mountain lion killed my neighbor's
dogs. Coyote are common. Those are the big ones I don't see; I am
sure there are smaller visitors I miss - kangaroo rats, for example.
Even though where I live is all built up, there are still coyotes
around. Every once in a while, you hear about them killing people's
pets. In the outlying suburbs, mountain lions are sometimes seen. No
bears, but a mother and cub were seen up in LA, not too far away.
Since I live near a salt marsh, I see lots of waterfowl. Ducks, herons,
cranes, hawks that prey on the smaller birds and once I saw what I
believe was a osprey (some think what I saw was an eagle).
Not as much as you, but enough to remind me that I'm in the 'Wild West'.
*Nod* - I love it and hate to see the "build-up" of humanity in once
wild areas. *sigh* A 1,600 unit community is being planned for the
West Mesa. I'd like to know where they plan to get the water!!! This
is a desert with a falling water table and in a long drought!!!!!
I know! We're having the same problem in SoCal. We get almost all of our
water from the Colorado river, which is overused now and in danger of
running dry. Yet they keep on putting up huge sprawling developments all
over the place. And each house has it's lawn and each industrial
building is surrounded by lush landscaping and then there are the golf
courses. Industry takes a big share of the water and agriculture takes
even more.
There is a catastrophe, worthy of inclusion in the next edition of Jared
Diamond's "Collapse", staring us in the face, and no one in authority
even seems to notice. Their motto is "Growth is good." They need to be
reminded that unrestricted growth is not always a good thing.
Unrestricted growth in biology has a name. It is called cancer.
Sorry for the rant, but this is a subject I feel strongly about.
I could have written it myself as I agree with every word.... only the
locale is different!
Sadly, that could be written about many places these days.
Btw, Mr. K. Toad brought a friend to the feast last night. I wish I
could get close enough to identify them!!! Maybe I have a breeding
pair??? BABIES!!!!
Congratulations Mom! :-)
To be accurate: stepmom or guardian (definition of godmother fits too)
OK. Congratulations, Stepmom!
I'll have to wait and see.
Pang
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
.
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| User: "Pangur Ban" |
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| Title: Re: Big Bird Dino Fossil found in Mongolia |
19 Jun 2007 07:46:20 AM |
|
|
johac proclaimed:
In article <mn.92107d766bafbae3.73271@att.net>,
Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote:
johac opined :
In article <mn.89f47d761f40ad85.73271@att.net>,
Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote:
johac asserted :
In article <mn.83f97d766804c6e8.73271@att.net>,
Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote:
johac wrote on 6/15/2007 :
In article <mn.7d4b7d7636ee97ba.73271@att.net>,
Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote:
Carefully enucleating johac wrote :
In article <mn.79437d76de0e6cd3.73271@att.net>,
Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote:
johac expressed precisely :
In article <mn.72077d76db06b863.73271@att.net>,
Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote:
johac wrote :
No, not the Muppet. A better artist's rendition can be found at
his
site:
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Gigantic bird-like dinosaur stirs debate
By Calum MacLeod, USA TODAY
BEIJING <ETH> The dinosaur world's latest star had a toothless
beak,
waved
feathered arms incapable of flight and may have hunted only
plants.
But
if you met Gigantoraptor erlianensis in a Mongolian forest 70
million
years ago, best to have given it a wide berth. At more than 16
feet
tall
and roughly 3,000 pounds, the beast could stand
eyeball-to-eyeball
with
a tyrannosaur, Chinese researchers say.
The bones of what its discoverers call the world's largest
birdlike
dinosaur were revealed Wednesday in Beijing. The announcement
came
two
years after the remains were dug from a mud hill near the Inner
Mongolian city of Erlian.
Most theories suggest carnivorous dinosaurs shrank as they grew
more
birdlike. This latest find is about 35 times heavier than other
similar
feathered dinosaurs, called oviraptors, which rarely exceeded a
body
mass of 88 pounds.
"This could be the largest ever species to have feathers," says
Xu
Xing,
the lead scientist behind the discovery, reported in the journal
Nature.
"Some experts may not believe this dinosaur had feathers, as it
is
so
big, and we did not find traces of feathers, but from the
evidence
we
unearthed · we are confident in our research," Xu, 38, says.
Gigantoraptor erlianensis "is a very cool dinosaur, a very
interesting
find," says paleontologist Thomas Holtz Jr. of the University of
Maryland. The previous largest oviraptor was the size of a horse.
Most
oviraptors are about as large as a child. "And this new one is
the
size
of a tyrannosaur. I mean, whoa, that's large," Holtz says.
Yet it was not even fully grown. "It was 11 when it | | | | | | | | | | | | | |
