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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Sound of Trumpet"
Date: 29 Mar 2006 04:25:52 AM
Object: Bikini Vs. Burka: The Debauchery Of American Womanhood
http://www.savethemales.ca/180902.html
The Debauchery of American Womanhood: Bikini vs. Burka
By Henry Makow Ph.D.
September 18, 2002
On my wall, I have a picture of a Muslim woman shrouded in a burka.
Beside it is a picture of an American beauty contestant, wearing
nothing but a bikini.
One woman is totally hidden from the public; the other is totally
exposed. These two extremes say a great deal about the clash of
so-called "civilizations."
The role of woman is at the heart of any culture. Apart from stealing
Arab oil, the impending war in the Middle East is about stripping Arabs
of their religion and culture, exchanging the burka for a bikini.
I am not an expert on the condition of Muslim women and I love feminine
beauty too much to advocate the burka here. But I am defending some of
the values that the burka represents for me.
For me, the burka represents a woman's consecration to her husband and
family. Only they see her.
It affirms the privacy, exclusivity and importance of the domestic
sphere.
The Muslim woman's focus is her home, the "nest" where her children are
born and reared. She is the "home" maker, the taproot that sustains the
spiritual life of the family, nurturing and training her children,
providing refuge and support to her husband.
In contrast, the bikinied American beauty queen struts practically
naked in front of millions on TV. A feminist, she belongs to herself.
In practice, paradoxically, she is public property. She belongs to no
one and everyone. She shops her body to the highest bidder. She is
auctioning herself all of the time.
In America, the cultural measure of a woman's value is her sex appeal.
(As this asset depreciates quickly, she is neurotically obsessed with
appearance and plagued by weight problems.)
As an adolescent, her role model is Britney Spears, a singer whose act
approximates a strip tease. From Britney, she learns that she will be
loved only if she gives sex. Thus, she learns to "hook up" rather than
to demand patient courtship and true love. As a result, dozens of males
know her before her husband does. She loses her innocence, which is a
part of her charm. She becomes hardened and calculating. Unable to
love, she is unfit to receive her husband's seed.
The feminine personality is founded on the emotional relationship
between mother and baby. It is based on nurturing and self-sacrifice.
Masculine nature is founded on the relationship between hunter and
prey. It is based on aggression and reason.
Feminism teaches woman that feminine nature has resulted in
"oppression" and that she should convert to male behavior instead. The
result: a confused and aggressive woman with a large chip on her
shoulder, unfit to become a wife or mother.
This, of course, is the goal of the social engineers at the NWO:
undermine sexual identity and destroy the family, create social and
personal dysfunction, and reduce population. In the "brave new world,"
women are not supposed to be "nest" makers, or progenitors of the race.
They are meant to be neutered autonomous creatures that indulge in sex
for physical pleasure, not for love or procreation.
At his press conference on Sunday, Donald Rumsfeld said that Iranian
women and youth were restive under the rule of the Mullahs. He implied
that the US would soon liberate them. To Britney Spears? To low-rise
"see-my-thong" pants? To the mutual masturbation that passes for
sexuality in America?
Parenthood is the pinnacle of human development. It is the stage when
we finally graduate from self-indulgence and become God's surrogates:
creating and nurturing new life. The New World Order does not want us
to reach this level of maturity. Pornography is the substitute for
marriage. We are to remain stunted: single, sex-starved and
self-obsessed.
We are not meant to have a permanent "private" life. We are to remain
lonely and isolated, dependent on consumer products for our identity,
in a state of perpetual courtship.
This is especially destructive for woman. Her sexual attraction is a
function of her fertility. As fertility declines, so does her sex
appeal. If a woman devotes her prime years to becoming "independent,"
she is not likely to find a permanent mate.
Her long-term personal fulfillment and happiness lies in making
marriage and family her first priority.
Feminism is another cruel New World Order hoax that has debauched
American women and despoiled Western civilization. It has ruined
millions of lives and represents a lethal threat to Islam.
I am not advocating the burka but rather some of the values that it
represents, specifically a woman's consecration to her future husband
and family, and the modesty and dignity this entails.
The burka and the bikini represent two extremes. The answer lies
somewhere in the middle.
Henry Makow, is the inventor of the board game Scruples, and the author
of A Long Way to go for a Date. He received his Ph.D. in English
Literature from the University of Toronto. He welcomes your feedback
and ideas at henry@savethemales.ca.
.

User: "Robert Schneider"

Title: Re: Bikini Vs. Burka: The Debauchery Of American Womanhood 29 Mar 2006 06:02:50 PM
"Sound of Trumpet" <soundoftrumpet@mail2world.com> wrote in
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<snip>

Henry Makow, is the inventor of the board game Scruples, and the author
of A Long Way to go for a Date. He received his Ph.D. in English
Literature from the University of Toronto. He welcomes your feedback
and ideas at henry@savethemales.ca.

He wrote a book about how hard it was for him to get a date?
AA #2149
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User: "Doc Smartass"

Title: Re: Bikini Vs. Burka: The Debauchery Of American Womanhood 29 Mar 2006 05:07:52 PM
"Sound of Trumpet" <soundoftrumpet@mail2world.com> wrote in
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Subject: Bikini Vs. Burka: The Debauchery Of American Womanhood

Tits (.Y.) and ***** ( X ) make the world round.
If you can't handle 'em, don't look at 'em.
--
Doc Smartass
Most truths are so naked that people feel sorry for them and cover them up,
at least a little bit.
--Edward R. Murrow
.

User: "R. Pierce Butler"

Title: Re: Bikini Vs. Burka: The Debauchery Of American Womanhood 29 Mar 2006 08:39:18 AM
"Sound of Trumpet" <soundoftrumpet@mail2world.com> wrote in
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http://www.savethemales.ca/180902.html


The Debauchery of American Womanhood: Bikini vs. Burka
By Henry Makow Ph.D.


September 18, 2002

On my wall, I have a picture of a Muslim woman shrouded in a burka.

Beside it is a picture of an American beauty contestant, wearing
nothing but a bikini.

If you look closely, chances are she is also wearing pantyhose.
I have attended many a beauty pagent as chief engineer in charge of
televising and taping the event and in every case the contestents wore
panty hose.
The worst pagent was the Miss Puerto-Rico pagent held in Chicago several
years ago. That show should have been sponsored and run by the AKC. Woof!
pierce
.
User: "Robibnikoff"

Title: Re: Bikini Vs. Burka: The Debauchery Of American Womanhood 29 Mar 2006 11:19:57 AM
"R. Pierce Butler" <spamsucks@google.com> wrote in message
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http://www.savethemales.ca/180902.html


The Debauchery of American Womanhood: Bikini vs. Burka
By Henry Makow Ph.D.


September 18, 2002

On my wall, I have a picture of a Muslim woman shrouded in a burka.

Beside it is a picture of an American beauty contestant, wearing
nothing but a bikini.



If you look closely, chances are she is also wearing pantyhose.

I have attended many a beauty pagent as chief engineer in charge of
televising and taping the event and in every case the contestents wore
panty hose.

The worst pagent was the Miss Puerto-Rico pagent held in Chicago several
years ago. That show should have been sponsored and run by the AKC.
Woof!

Now, now - That's not very nice! <shakes finger at pierce> ;(
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
Atheist ***** Extraordinaire
#1557
.
User: "R. Pierce Butler"

Title: Re: Bikini Vs. Burka: The Debauchery Of American Womanhood 29 Mar 2006 08:39:32 PM
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http://www.savethemales.ca/180902.html


The Debauchery of American Womanhood: Bikini vs. Burka
By Henry Makow Ph.D.


September 18, 2002

On my wall, I have a picture of a Muslim woman shrouded in a burka.

Beside it is a picture of an American beauty contestant, wearing
nothing but a bikini.



If you look closely, chances are she is also wearing pantyhose.

I have attended many a beauty pagent as chief engineer in charge of
televising and taping the event and in every case the contestents wore
panty hose.

The worst pagent was the Miss Puerto-Rico pagent held in Chicago several
years ago. That show should have been sponsored and run by the AKC.
Woof!


Now, now - That's not very nice! <shakes finger at pierce> ;(

Robin, It was horrible. I had my hand full keeping the grips, camera guys,
audio guy, etc from making comments like "where is a Milkbone when you need
one..." and worse. The audio guy even played "How Much is That Doggie In
The Window" thru our headsets. I lost it then and there. He had been at
these things before and came prepared much to everyone's amusement and my
chagrin too.
The crew finally settled down and got back t the business of trying to make
a watchable TV show out of this mess. When the judges finally decided who
was the winner, in typical fashion she had the crown/tiara placed on her
head and then someone said thru the intercom, "Here princess....come here
girl." I fell on the floor dying.
pierce
.
User: "Robibnikoff"

Title: Re: Bikini Vs. Burka: The Debauchery Of American Womanhood 29 Mar 2006 09:31:56 PM
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http://www.savethemales.ca/180902.html


The Debauchery of American Womanhood: Bikini vs. Burka
By Henry Makow Ph.D.


September 18, 2002

On my wall, I have a picture of a Muslim woman shrouded in a burka.

Beside it is a picture of an American beauty contestant, wearing
nothing but a bikini.



If you look closely, chances are she is also wearing pantyhose.

I have attended many a beauty pagent as chief engineer in charge of
televising and taping the event and in every case the contestents wore
panty hose.

The worst pagent was the Miss Puerto-Rico pagent held in Chicago several
years ago. That show should have been sponsored and run by the AKC.
Woof!


Now, now - That's not very nice! <shakes finger at pierce> ;(


Robin,

Hey! Watch the spelling! ;)
It was horrible. I had my hand full keeping the grips, camera guys,

audio guy, etc from making comments like "where is a Milkbone when you
need
one..." and worse. The audio guy even played "How Much is That Doggie In
The Window" thru our headsets. I lost it then and there. He had been at
these things before and came prepared much to everyone's amusement and my
chagrin too.

LOL!! Oh MY! I forgot that you were taping this thing. Holy crap, would
have loved to have been a fly on the wall for that! :)

The crew finally settled down and got back t the business of trying to
make
a watchable TV show out of this mess. When the judges finally decided who
was the winner, in typical fashion she had the crown/tiara placed on her
head and then someone said thru the intercom, "Here princess....come here
girl." I fell on the floor dying.

NO!! Through the intercom?!?! Did the poor girl hear it?!?
Excuse me, I need a tissue. I seem to have laughed my mascara clean off! :)
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
Atheist ***** Extraordinaire
#1557
.
User: "R. Pierce Butler"

Title: Re: Bikini Vs. Burka: The Debauchery Of American Womanhood 29 Mar 2006 10:50:05 PM
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The Debauchery of American Womanhood: Bikini vs. Burka
By Henry Makow Ph.D.


September 18, 2002

On my wall, I have a picture of a Muslim woman shrouded in a burka.

Beside it is a picture of an American beauty contestant, wearing
nothing but a bikini.



If you look closely, chances are she is also wearing pantyhose.

I have attended many a beauty pagent as chief engineer in charge of
televising and taping the event and in every case the contestents
wore panty hose.

The worst pagent was the Miss Puerto-Rico pagent held in Chicago
several years ago. That show should have been sponsored and run by
the AKC. Woof!


Now, now - That's not very nice! <shakes finger at pierce> ;(


Robin,


Hey! Watch the spelling! ;)

It was horrible. I had my hand full keeping the grips, camera guys,

audio guy, etc from making comments like "where is a Milkbone when you
need
one..." and worse. The audio guy even played "How Much is That Doggie
In The Window" thru our headsets. I lost it then and there. He had
been at these things before and came prepared much to everyone's
amusement and my chagrin too.


LOL!! Oh MY! I forgot that you were taping this thing. Holy crap,
would have loved to have been a fly on the wall for that! :)

The crew finally settled down and got back t the business of trying to
make
a watchable TV show out of this mess. When the judges finally decided
who was the winner, in typical fashion she had the crown/tiara placed
on her head and then someone said thru the intercom, "Here
princess....come here girl." I fell on the floor dying.


NO!! Through the intercom?!?! Did the poor girl hear it?!?

She could not have heard it even if it as said 4 feet from her. The
applause was loud. It is amazing how much applause some people can make
when a little drunk.


Excuse me, I need a tissue. I seem to have laughed my mascara clean off!
:)

I have a few more stories like that. I just have to remember them all.
We were supposed to tape Huey Lewis and The News at a club one night, but
they cancelled. Now that was an interesting shoot. The camera guys were
novices and I had to tell them that once they were at their station there
would be no breaks, no one to get them something to drink, just an island
in a sea of humanity. I also had them give me their wallets. Pickpockets
were rampant at clubs. He said some dude tried to take his camera, tripod
and all. He kicked him in the nuts and that was that. The bouncers took
over from there. The producer tipped the bouncers ahead of time so they
took care of us.
Those were the days when I had a fancy title and some prestige and no
money.
pierce
.
User: "Robibnikoff"

Title: Re: Bikini Vs. Burka: The Debauchery Of American Womanhood 30 Mar 2006 10:52:46 AM
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snip

It was horrible. I had my hand full keeping the grips, camera guys,

audio guy, etc from making comments like "where is a Milkbone when you
need
one..." and worse. The audio guy even played "How Much is That Doggie
In The Window" thru our headsets. I lost it then and there. He had
been at these things before and came prepared much to everyone's
amusement and my chagrin too.


LOL!! Oh MY! I forgot that you were taping this thing. Holy crap,
would have loved to have been a fly on the wall for that! :)

The crew finally settled down and got back t the business of trying to
make
a watchable TV show out of this mess. When the judges finally decided
who was the winner, in typical fashion she had the crown/tiara placed
on her head and then someone said thru the intercom, "Here
princess....come here girl." I fell on the floor dying.


NO!! Through the intercom?!?! Did the poor girl hear it?!?


She could not have heard it even if it as said 4 feet from her. The
applause was loud. It is amazing how much applause some people can make
when a little drunk.

Whew! Well, I'm glad she didn't hear that, poor thing ;)

Excuse me, I need a tissue. I seem to have laughed my mascara clean off!
:)


I have a few more stories like that. I just have to remember them all.

We were supposed to tape Huey Lewis and The News at a club one night, but
they cancelled. Now that was an interesting shoot. The camera guys were
novices and I had to tell them that once they were at their station there
would be no breaks, no one to get them something to drink, just an island
in a sea of humanity. I also had them give me their wallets. Pickpockets
were rampant at clubs. He said some dude tried to take his camera, tripod
and all. He kicked him in the nuts and that was that.

LOL - Oh dear.
The bouncers took

over from there. The producer tipped the bouncers ahead of time so they
took care of us.

Thank goodness for that!

Those were the days when I had a fancy title and some prestige and no
money.

--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
Atheist ***** Extraordinaire
#1557
.






User: "David H."

Title: Re: Bikini Vs. Burka: The Debauchery Of American Womanhood 29 Mar 2006 09:23:07 AM
"Sound of Trumpet" <soundoftrumpet@mail2world.com> wrote in message
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http://www.savethemales.ca/180902.html


The Debauchery of American Womanhood: Bikini vs. Burka
By Henry Makow Ph.D.


September 18, 2002

On my wall, I have a picture of a Muslim woman shrouded in a burka.

Beside it is a picture of an American beauty contestant, wearing
nothing but a bikini.

<snip>
You don't have to go any further to recognize the xian-like tendency to
lie in order to illustrate a point.
I am not saying it is impossible, but how many folks out there really
believe someone would have such pictures hanging on their wall?
Why *would* anyone want, on their wall at home or office, a picture of
a bikini-clad woman next to a burka-fied woman?
That opening smells like ***** to me.
David H.
#2217
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User: "Ubiquitous"

Title: Re: Bikini Vs. Burka: The Debauchery Of American Womanhood 09 Apr 2006 12:35:08 PM
wrote:

http://www.savethemales.ca/180902.html

The Debauchery of American Womanhood: Bikini vs. Burka
By Henry Makow Ph.D.

Interesting article, but what's it have to do with this newsgroup?
--
It is simply breathtaking to watch the glee and abandon with which
the liberal media and the Angry Left have been attempting to turn
our military victory in Iraq into a second Vietnam quagmire. Too bad
for them, it's failing.
.

User: "Robert J. Kolker"

Title: Re: Bikini Vs. Burka: The Debauchery Of American Womanhood 29 Mar 2006 09:04:09 AM


The burka and the bikini represent two extremes. The answer lies
somewhere in the middle.

You are a moralistic twit. Attend to your own behaviour and let others
do as they please.
Bob Kolker
.

User: "Messalina"

Title: Re: Bikini Vs. Burka: The Debauchery Of American Womanhood 30 Mar 2006 08:17:08 PM

The burka and the bikini represent two extremes. The answer lies
somewhere in the middle.

The difference being that bikini'd beauty contestants are hardly the
norm here in the US, while women in burkas are in many muslim
countries.
What a collossal idiot this guy is.
Mez
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User: "Bea Essor"

Title: Re: Bikini Vs. Burka: The Debauchery Of American Womanhood 29 Mar 2006 09:17:35 AM

The Muslim woman's focus is her home, the "nest" where her children are
born and reared. She is the "home" maker, the taproot that sustains the
spiritual life of the family, nurturing and training her children,
providing refuge and support to her husband.

Sounds like a good little Republican house wife.
Bea Essor
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User: "SmokeyJose"

Title: Re: Bikini Vs. Burka: The Debauchery Of American Womanhood 04 Apr 2006 12:51:39 PM
A song from not all too long ago, "A glimpse of stocking was something
shocking, but now anything goes..."
"..stealing their oil.."??? Last time I looked, wed were paying rather
dearly for it. No up around $66/bbl ch $10 3 or 5 years ago.
.

User: "Cary Kittrell"

Title: Re: Bikini Vs. Burka: The Debauchery Of American Womanhood 29 Mar 2006 11:20:08 AM
In article <1143627951.984425.103990@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> "Sound of Trumpet" <soundoftrumpet@mail2world.com> writes:

http://www.savethemales.ca/180902.html


The Debauchery of American Womanhood: Bikini vs. Burka
By Henry Makow Ph.D.

Another quote from Dr Makow's site:
Essentially every country is run by a shadow government,
which owes its loyalty to the New World Order controlled
by a 13-member Illuminati Council.


I think that whoever first said "It takes all kinds" was
being overly generous.
-- cary
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User: "Rich"

Title: Re: Bikini Vs. Burka: The Debauchery Of American Womanhood 29 Mar 2006 06:03:20 PM
On 29 Mar 2006 02:25:52 -0800, "Sound of Trumpet"
<soundoftrumpet@mail2world.com> wrote:

http://www.savethemales.ca/180902.html


The Debauchery of American Womanhood: Bikini vs. Burka
By Henry Makow Ph.D.


September 18, 2002

On my wall, I have a picture of a Muslim woman shrouded in a burka.

Beside it is a picture of an American beauty contestant, wearing
nothing but a bikini.

One woman is totally hidden from the public; the other is totally
exposed. These two extremes say a great deal about the clash of
so-called "civilizations."

Sure does. One is stuck in the 1960s the other is stuck in the 15th
century.
.

User: "raven1"

Title: Re: Bikini Vs. Burka: The Debauchery Of American Womanhood 29 Mar 2006 06:16:28 AM
On 29 Mar 2006 02:25:52 -0800, "Sound of Trumpet"
<soundoftrumpet@mail2world.com> wrote:

http://www.savethemales.ca/180902.html


The Debauchery of American Womanhood: Bikini vs. Burka
By Henry Makow Ph.D.

Whose views on women appear to have come straight out of the 1300s
regardless of which civilization he's referring to...
--
"O Sybilli, si ergo
Fortibus es in ero
O Nobili! Themis trux
Sivat sinem? Causen Dux"
.

User: "Curly Surmudgeon"

Title: Re: Bikini Vs. Burka: The Debauchery Of American Womanhood 29 Mar 2006 11:55:02 PM
On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 02:25:52 -0800, Sound of Trumpet wrote:

http://www.savethemales.ca/180902.html


The Debauchery of American Womanhood: Bikini vs. Burka
By Henry Makow Ph.D.

Cool. Post those .jpg's of women wearing only head scarfs!
-- Regards, Curly
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User: "Curly Surmudgeon"

Title: Re: Bikini Vs. Burka: The Debauchery Of American Womanhood 30 Mar 2006 12:00:40 AM
On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 02:25:52 -0800, Sound of Trumpet wrote:

http://www.savethemales.ca/180902.html


The Debauchery of American Womanhood: Bikini vs. Burka
By Henry Makow Ph.D.

Does anyone else notice the confluence of Islam and Christianity here?
Neither trust their own restraint. Both enslave women because they can't
keep their ***** in their pants.
-- Regards, Curly
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User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Bikini Vs. Burka: The Debauchery Of American Womanhood 03 Apr 2006 06:18:32 PM
On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 22:00:40 -0800, Curly Surmudgeon
<curly@curlysurmudgeon.com> wrote in alt.atheism

On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 02:25:52 -0800, Sound of Trumpet wrote:

http://www.savethemales.ca/180902.html


The Debauchery of American Womanhood: Bikini vs. Burka
By Henry Makow Ph.D.


Does anyone else notice the confluence of Islam and Christianity here?

Neither trust their own restraint. Both enslave women because they can't
keep their ***** in their pants.

It's called 'blaming the victims' just as the example 'God' has set.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
.


User: "Curly Surmudgeon"

Title: Re: Bikini Vs. Burka: The Debauchery Of American Womanhood 02 Apr 2006 07:48:08 PM
On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 02:25:52 -0800, Sound of Trumpet wrote:

http://www.savethemales.ca/180902.html

I can't believe that no one here takes issue with the implied negative
connotations that debauchery is somehow a bad thing.
-- Regards, Curly
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User: "Uncle Vic"

Title: Re: Bikini Vs. Burka: The Debauchery Of American Womanhood 29 Mar 2006 10:55:26 AM
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Sound of Trumpet
(soundoftrumpet@mail2world.com) made the light shine upon us with this:

On my wall, I have a picture of a Muslim woman shrouded in a burka.

Beside it is a picture of an American beauty contestant, wearing
nothing but a bikini.

I walked down a beach in San Diego, and noticed the woman walking toward me
was naked. Then I remembered I was naked too. We smiled at each other and
passed.
Coveting is something prudy Christians do because of their prudy morals.
Look at all the Catholic Priests committing sex crimes. Now look at the
reason you made this stupid post.
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
It is fair to say the bible has equal amounts of fact, history, and pizza.
-Penn Jillette
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User: "Jenny6833A"

Title: Re: Bikini Vs. Burka: The Debauchery Of American Womanhood 29 Mar 2006 11:39:39 PM
Uncle Vic wrote:

I walked down a beach in San Diego, and noticed the woman walking toward me
was naked. Then I remembered I was naked too. We smiled at each other and
passed.

If you smiled as you passed, you were both nude instead of naked.
:-)
Jenny
(who likes Blacks too)
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User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: Bikini Vs. Burka: The Debauchery Of American Womanhood 29 Mar 2006 04:53:57 PM
Previously, on alt.atheism, Sound of Trumpet in episode
<1143627951.984425.103990@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>...

http://www.savethemales.ca/180902.html


The Debauchery of American Womanhood: Bikini vs. Burka By Henry Makow
Ph.D.

So you're finally coming out publicly in favor of burkas...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
"As hip as it is for outsiders to blame New Orleans
for everything bad that happened during and after
Hurricane Katrina, the truth is that the people
who lived here were much more prepared for a big
storm than the federal government that promised
us flood protection."
http://makeashorterlink.com/?V180525DC
I just love this one...
"For those of us who grew up in Louisiana,
'The Wizard of Oz' was like a documentary.
Dorothy left Kansas and simply went to Mardi Gras."
http://makeashorterlink.com/?W2EA439BC
"Everything New Orleans"
http://www.nola.com
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User: "Pastor Franklinstein"

Title: Re: Bikini Vs. Burka: The Debauchery Of American Womanhood 29 Mar 2006 04:41:34 PM
Sound of Kazoo wrote:


On my wall, I have a picture of a Muslim woman shrouded in a burka.

Beside it is a picture of an American beauty contestant, wearing
nothing but a bikini.

The burka and the bikini represent two extremes. The answer lies
somewhere in the middle.

You wank to those pictures kazoo? somewhere in the middle and still you
cant find the right spot.
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User: "Llywelyn Jones"

Title: Re: Bikini Vs. Burka: The Debauchery Of American Womanhood 29 Mar 2006 05:03:07 AM
Sound of Trumpet wrote:
<snip>
Which just goes to show how women are viewed in those societies.
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User: "Robibnikoff"

Title: Re: Bikini Vs. Burka: The Debauchery Of American Womanhood 29 Mar 2006 06:17:35 AM
"Llywelyn Jones" <llywelynjones@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1143630187.428396.62450@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...

Sound of Trumpet wrote:

<snip>

Which just goes to show how women are viewed in those societies.

Was listening to someone on NPR yesterday who was working with women in
Afganistan. Women there aren't even considered human beings - In their
hierarchy, they fall below animals.
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
Atheist ***** Extraordinaire
#1557
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User: "Curly Surmudgeon"

Title: Re: Bikini Vs. Burka: The Debauchery Of American Womanhood 30 Mar 2006 12:03:46 AM
On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 07:17:35 -0500, Robibnikoff wrote:


"Llywelyn Jones" <llywelynjones@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1143630187.428396.62450@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...

Sound of Trumpet wrote:

<snip>

Which just goes to show how women are viewed in those societies.


Was listening to someone on NPR yesterday who was working with women in
Afganistan. Women there aren't even considered human beings - In their
hierarchy, they fall below animals.

Islam has always put women at the bottom of the scrotum pole. Mind
boggling that Bush would attack the most secular nation in Islam.
Or not since Christians would love to enslave women too.
-- Regards, Curly
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Who would Jesus torture?
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User: "Llywelyn Jones"

Title: Re: Bikini Vs. Burka: The Debauchery Of American Womanhood 30 Mar 2006 08:36:20 AM
Curly Surmudgeon wrote:

Mind
boggling that Bush would attack the most secular nation in Islam.

Isn't that supposed to be Turkey?
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User: "Robert J. Kolker"

Title: Re: Bikini Vs. Burka: The Debauchery Of American Womanhood 30 Mar 2006 08:44:27 AM
Llywelyn Jones wrote:

Curly Surmudgeon wrote:


Mind
boggling that Bush would attack the most secular nation in Islam.



Isn't that supposed to be Turkey?

That is right. But Iraq was ruled by a secular dictator (Saddam) prior
to the U.S. invasion. Saddam surpressed Islamic fundamentalism rather
stringently. The most secular nation in Islam (other than turkey) was
ruled by a murderous dictator who maintained his power purely by force
and fear.
Bob Kolker


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