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"Fred Stone" |
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08 Sep 2007 07:01:39 PM |
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Bin Laden or Olbermann? Hard to tell... |
Full transcript of Osama tape here:
http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/msnbc/sections/news/070907
_bin_laden_transcript.pdf
Is Bin Laden channeling Keith Olbermann? Or vice-versa?
http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2007/09/osama-bin-laden-
keith-olberman-same.html
Or maybe Osama's just a lefty blogger...
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2007/09/08/nyt-s-david-
brooks-bin-laden-sounds-like-lefty-blogger
" No, ludicrous. I mean, on one hand, he's a malevolent guy who killed
3,000 Americans. But you read this thing, and it's like he's been
sitting around reading lefty blogs, and he's one of these childish
people posting rants at the bottom the page, you know, Noam Chomsky and
all this stuff.
You can't help read it and not laugh at it, occasionally, because it
is just absurd. It's flying this way, and that way, weird conspiracy
theories, and mortgages, global warming. He throws it all in there.
The one thing that leapt out -- and Bruce Hoffman and the others
mentioned this -- was how Western it is. And a friend of mine, Reuel
Gerecht, points out that there's this argument that Western ideas never
permeated into the Arab world, but in fact it's all -- I mean, a lot of
the worst ideas from the West have permeated in, and he's picked up Noam
Chomsky, and he's picked up some of the anti-globalization stuff. And
that's what infuses this."
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
“The hypocrisy argument is a tactic used by thought fascists who believe
an immutable personal characteristic must dictate – without exception –
the ideological and political state of a person’s mind.”
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09 Sep 2007 12:30:10 PM |
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Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote:
" No, ludicrous. I mean, on one hand, he's a malevolent
guy who killed 3,000 Americans. But you read this thing,
and it's like he's been sitting around reading lefty blogs,
Don't tell me -- let me guess -- you think this is a coincidence.
Don't you?
Bin Laden keeps tabs on all the economic and political
news in the west, but has no idea what might reinforce
Bush's words and what might undermine Bush's opposition?
Please.
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09 Sep 2007 01:05:18 PM |
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On Sun, 09 Sep 2007 10:30:10 -0700, JTEM wrote:
Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote:
" No, ludicrous. I mean, on one hand, he's a malevolent guy who
killed 3,000 Americans. But you read this thing, and it's like he's
been sitting around reading lefty blogs,
Don't tell me -- let me guess -- you think this is a coincidence.
Don't you?
Bin Laden keeps tabs on all the economic and political news in the west,
but has no idea what might reinforce Bush's words and what might
undermine Bush's opposition?
Please.
Wait, the reich is trying to compare Keith Olbermann and bin Laden?
Wow. That's beyond pathetic.
(But I do love the smell of desperation)
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"Oh Log Cabin, full of taste, my stomach is with thee.
Blessed are three among syrups..."
- Homer
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10 Sep 2007 05:25:37 PM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in
news:CYGdnevjOo5DqHnbnZ2dnUVZ_tjinZ2d@giganews.com:
On Sun, 09 Sep 2007 10:30:10 -0700, JTEM wrote:
Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote:
" No, ludicrous. I mean, on one hand, he's a malevolent guy who
killed 3,000 Americans. But you read this thing, and it's like he's
been sitting around reading lefty blogs,
Don't tell me -- let me guess -- you think this is a coincidence.
Don't you?
Bin Laden keeps tabs on all the economic and political news in the
west, but has no idea what might reinforce Bush's words and what
might undermine Bush's opposition?
Please.
Wait, the reich is trying to compare Keith Olbermann and bin Laden?
Wow. That's beyond pathetic.
What's really pathetic is how close they are.
(But I do love the smell of desperation)
It's coming from your armpits, Mark.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
“The hypocrisy argument is a tactic used by thought fascists who believe
an immutable personal characteristic must dictate – without exception –
the ideological and political state of a person’s mind.”
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11 Sep 2007 12:16:31 AM |
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Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote
Wait, the reich is trying to compare Keith Olbermann
and bin Laden?
Wow. That's beyond pathetic.
What's really pathetic is how close they are.
Pretending this were true: Wouldn't that "Prove"
the tapes are fake? The only other explanation
is even more obvious, and worse for you: Bin
Laden believes his best chances for success
require a continuation of GOP policies.
After all, Bin Laden -- according to the very tape
in question -- keeps himself informed on the topic
of the U.S. economy and political news. And we're
also told that Bin Laden is the criminal mastermind
behind numerous terrorists plots, not just 9/11.
So it would be illogical to assume that Bin Laden
would be unaware of the kind of comparisons that
filthy traitors like you are so fond of making.
Seriously, maggot. If Bin Laden made a tape that
sounded like he hated & feared Bush, but loved
the Democrats, the only logical conclusion would
have to be that Bin Laden is hoping to steer people
AWAY from the Democrats, and towards support
for Bush.
Any other conclusion would run counter to the
evidence.
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12 Sep 2007 08:33:16 AM |
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JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> wrote in news:1189487791.049458.247750
@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:
Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote
Wait, the reich is trying to compare Keith Olbermann
and bin Laden?
Wow. That's beyond pathetic.
What's really pathetic is how close they are.
Pretending this were true: Wouldn't that "Prove"
the tapes are fake?
No.
The only other explanation
is even more obvious, and worse for you: Bin
Laden believes his best chances for success
require a continuation of GOP policies.
Huh? There is yet another explanation, "JTEM", and it's even more
obvious than your "obvious" bit of twisty-turny liberal "logic".
BL really means what he's saying. He really does sound like a Democrat
because you brilliant induhviduals really do believe in the same things.
After all, Bin Laden -- according to the very tape
in question -- keeps himself informed on the topic
of the U.S. economy and political news. And we're
also told that Bin Laden is the criminal mastermind
behind numerous terrorists plots, not just 9/11.
So it would be illogical to assume that Bin Laden
would be unaware of the kind of comparisons that
filthy traitors like you are so fond of making.
Seriously, maggot. If Bin Laden made a tape that
sounded like he hated & feared Bush, but loved
the Democrats, the only logical conclusion would
have to be that Bin Laden is hoping to steer people
AWAY from the Democrats, and towards support
for Bush.
Any other conclusion would run counter to the
evidence.
Oh, of course, BL has talked about the same things Democrats talk about
ever since BEFORE 9/11 but that means that he *REALLY* believes in the
things that Republicans believe in.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
“The hypocrisy argument is a tactic used by thought fascists who believe
an immutable personal characteristic must dictate – without exception –
the ideological and political state of a person’s mind.”
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12 Sep 2007 02:55:43 PM |
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Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote:
Oh, of course, BL has talked about the same
things Democrats talk about ever since BEFORE
9/11
Here on our planet, Bin Laden sounded EXACTLY
like one of you religious Reichtards, blasting
everything from gay people to "immoral"
television.
| We call you to be a people of manners,
| principles, honour, and purity; to reject
| the immoral acts of fornication,
| homosexuality, intoxicants, gambling's,
| and trading with interest.
--bin Laden
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/worldview/story/0,,845725,00.html
Now show me a bin laden statement, denouncing
the United States, which pre-dates this one.
Well, let's be honest here. You are a complete
psycho. You'll never try to defend your claims
because that would force you to confront your
fantasy.
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12 Sep 2007 11:09:36 AM |
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On 12 Sep 2007 13:33:16 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
[snip]
Oh, of course, BL has talked about the same things Democrats talk about
ever since BEFORE 9/11 but that means that he *REALLY* believes in the
things that Republicans believe in.
Your trust and faith in the honesty of America's enemies is touching,
I suppose.
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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12 Sep 2007 05:16:03 PM |
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Matt Silberstein <matts2removethis@ix.netcom.com> wrote in
news:po3ge35uoevcr7ggar895csgj3hh3vnuol@4ax.com:
On 12 Sep 2007 13:33:16 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
[snip]
Oh, of course, BL has talked about the same things Democrats talk about
ever since BEFORE 9/11 but that means that he *REALLY* believes in the
things that Republicans believe in.
Your trust and faith in the honesty of America's enemies is touching,
I suppose.
You're right, Matt, I don't trust the Democrats either.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
“The hypocrisy argument is a tactic used by thought fascists who believe an
immutable personal characteristic must dictate – without exception – the
ideological and political state of a person’s mind.”
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13 Sep 2007 12:07:55 AM |
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On 12 Sep 2007 22:16:03 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
Matt Silberstein <matts2removethis@ix.netcom.com> wrote in
news:po3ge35uoevcr7ggar895csgj3hh3vnuol@4ax.com:
On 12 Sep 2007 13:33:16 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
[snip]
Oh, of course, BL has talked about the same things Democrats talk about
ever since BEFORE 9/11 but that means that he *REALLY* believes in the
things that Republicans believe in.
Your trust and faith in the honesty of America's enemies is touching,
I suppose.
You're right, Matt, I don't trust the Democrats either.
But you do trust al Qaeda and OBL.
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13 Sep 2007 10:55:53 AM |
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Matt Silberstein <matts2removethis@ix.netcom.com> wrote in
news:pchhe3p8h2jm84i3jquau2rd79q2r0fr9n@4ax.com:
On 12 Sep 2007 22:16:03 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
Matt Silberstein <matts2removethis@ix.netcom.com> wrote in
news:po3ge35uoevcr7ggar895csgj3hh3vnuol@4ax.com:
On 12 Sep 2007 13:33:16 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
[snip]
Oh, of course, BL has talked about the same things Democrats talk
about ever since BEFORE 9/11 but that means that he *REALLY*
believes in the things that Republicans believe in.
Your trust and faith in the honesty of America's enemies is
touching, I suppose.
You're right, Matt, I don't trust the Democrats either.
But you do trust al Qaeda and OBL.
Only so far as I believe that they mean what they say.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
“The hypocrisy argument is a tactic used by thought fascists who believe
an immutable personal characteristic must dictate – without exception –
the ideological and political state of a person’s mind.”
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13 Sep 2007 03:31:50 PM |
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On 13 Sep 2007 15:55:53 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
Matt Silberstein <matts2removethis@ix.netcom.com> wrote in
news:pchhe3p8h2jm84i3jquau2rd79q2r0fr9n@4ax.com:
On 12 Sep 2007 22:16:03 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
Matt Silberstein <matts2removethis@ix.netcom.com> wrote in
news:po3ge35uoevcr7ggar895csgj3hh3vnuol@4ax.com:
On 12 Sep 2007 13:33:16 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
[snip]
Oh, of course, BL has talked about the same things Democrats talk
about ever since BEFORE 9/11 but that means that he *REALLY*
believes in the things that Republicans believe in.
Your trust and faith in the honesty of America's enemies is
touching, I suppose.
You're right, Matt, I don't trust the Democrats either.
But you do trust al Qaeda and OBL.
Only so far as I believe that they mean what they say.
Tight little circle you have there.
BTW, any positive things to say about Giuliani (things you can back
up, of course)? Have you looked at the picture of the cookie packaging
yet? Or are you just preparing new trolls?
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11 Sep 2007 10:14:33 AM |
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On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 22:16:31 -0700, JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> wrote:
Any other conclusion would run counter to the evidence.
Which is exactly the direction traitors like Phred go.
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10 Sep 2007 04:36:23 AM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
news:CYGdnevjOo5DqHnbnZ2dnUVZ_tjinZ2d@giganews.com...
On Sun, 09 Sep 2007 10:30:10 -0700, JTEM wrote:
Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote:
" No, ludicrous. I mean, on one hand, he's a malevolent guy who
killed 3,000 Americans. But you read this thing, and it's like he's
been sitting around reading lefty blogs,
Don't tell me -- let me guess -- you think this is a coincidence.
Don't you?
Bin Laden keeps tabs on all the economic and political news in the west,
but has no idea what might reinforce Bush's words and what might
undermine Bush's opposition?
Please.
Wait, the reich is trying to compare Keith Olbermann and bin Laden?
Wow. That's beyond pathetic.
(But I do love the smell of desperation)
No kidding.
--
Aloha, G-Ride
The force that's forcing you to feel like busting up a Starbucks.
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08 Sep 2007 08:22:52 PM |
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:Xns99A5CC28C635Bfreddybear@216.151.153.44...
Full transcript of Osama tape here:
http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/msnbc/sections/news/070907
_bin_laden_transcript.pdf
Is Bin Laden channeling Keith Olbermann? Or vice-versa?
http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2007/09/osama-bin-laden-
keith-olberman-same.html
Or maybe Osama's just a lefty blogger...
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2007/09/08/nyt-s-david-
brooks-bin-laden-sounds-like-lefty-blogger
" No, ludicrous. I mean, on one hand, he's a malevolent guy who killed
3,000 Americans. But you read this thing, and it's like he's been
sitting around reading lefty blogs, and he's one of these childish
people posting rants at the bottom the page, you know, Noam Chomsky and
all this stuff.
You can't help read it and not laugh at it, occasionally, because it
is just absurd. It's flying this way, and that way, weird conspiracy
theories, and mortgages, global warming. He throws it all in there.
The one thing that leapt out -- and Bruce Hoffman and the others
mentioned this -- was how Western it is. And a friend of mine, Reuel
Gerecht, points out that there's this argument that Western ideas never
permeated into the Arab world, but in fact it's all -- I mean, a lot of
the worst ideas from the West have permeated in, and he's picked up Noam
Chomsky, and he's picked up some of the anti-globalization stuff. And
that's what infuses this."
Not really, Bin Laden's the one who bitches about high taxes.
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09 Sep 2007 07:55:32 AM |
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"Fester" <not@home.com> wrote in
news:46e34aec$0$28847$4c368faf@roadrunner.com:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:Xns99A5CC28C635Bfreddybear@216.151.153.44...
Full transcript of Osama tape here:
http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/msnbc/sections/news/070907
_bin_laden_transcript.pdf
Is Bin Laden channeling Keith Olbermann? Or vice-versa?
http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2007/09/osama-bin-laden-
keith-olberman-same.html
Or maybe Osama's just a lefty blogger...
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2007/09/08/nyt-s-david-
brooks-bin-laden-sounds-like-lefty-blogger
" No, ludicrous. I mean, on one hand, he's a malevolent guy who
killed 3,000 Americans. But you read this thing, and it's like he's
been sitting around reading lefty blogs, and he's one of these
childish people posting rants at the bottom the page, you know, Noam
Chomsky and all this stuff.
You can't help read it and not laugh at it, occasionally, because
it
is just absurd. It's flying this way, and that way, weird conspiracy
theories, and mortgages, global warming. He throws it all in there.
The one thing that leapt out -- and Bruce Hoffman and the others
mentioned this -- was how Western it is. And a friend of mine, Reuel
Gerecht, points out that there's this argument that Western ideas
never permeated into the Arab world, but in fact it's all -- I mean,
a lot of the worst ideas from the West have permeated in, and he's
picked up Noam Chomsky, and he's picked up some of the
anti-globalization stuff. And that's what infuses this."
Not really, Bin Laden's the one who bitches about high taxes.
True, there is that.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
“The hypocrisy argument is a tactic used by thought fascists who believe
an immutable personal characteristic must dictate – without exception –
the ideological and political state of a person’s mind.”
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09 Sep 2007 08:21:48 AM |
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On 9 sep, 03:22, "Fester" <n...@home.com> wrote:
"Fred Stone" <fston...@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:Xns99A5CC28C635Bfreddybear@216.151.153.44...
Full transcript of Osama tape here:
http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/msnbc/sections/news/070907
_bin_laden_transcript.pdf
Is Bin Laden channeling Keith Olbermann? Or vice-versa?
http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2007/09/osama-bin-laden-
keith-olberman-same.html
Or maybe Osama's just a lefty blogger...
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2007/09/08/nyt-s-david-
brooks-bin-laden-sounds-like-lefty-blogger
" No, ludicrous. I mean, on one hand, he's a malevolent guy who killed
3,000 Americans. But you read this thing, and it's like he's been
sitting around reading lefty blogs, and he's one of these childish
people posting rants at the bottom the page, you know, Noam Chomsky and
all this stuff.
You can't help read it and not laugh at it, occasionally, because it
is just absurd. It's flying this way, and that way, weird conspiracy
theories, and mortgages, global warming. He throws it all in there.
The one thing that leapt out -- and Bruce Hoffman and the others
mentioned this -- was how Western it is. And a friend of mine, Reuel
Gerecht, points out that there's this argument that Western ideas never
permeated into the Arab world, but in fact it's all -- I mean, a lot of
the worst ideas from the West have permeated in, and he's picked up Noam
Chomsky, and he's picked up some of the anti-globalization stuff. And
that's what infuses this."
Not really, Bin Laden's the one who bitches about high taxes.- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht niet weergeven -
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Bin Laden is a Republican?!?
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09 Sep 2007 10:10:20 AM |
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<pbamvv@worldonline.nl> wrote in message
news:1189344108.745484.75560@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
On 9 sep, 03:22, "Fester" <n...@home.com> wrote:
"Fred Stone" <fston...@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:Xns99A5CC28C635Bfreddybear@216.151.153.44...
Full transcript of Osama tape here:
http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/msnbc/sections/news/070907
_bin_laden_transcript.pdf
Is Bin Laden channeling Keith Olbermann? Or vice-versa?
http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2007/09/osama-bin-laden-
keith-olberman-same.html
Or maybe Osama's just a lefty blogger...
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2007/09/08/nyt-s-david-
brooks-bin-laden-sounds-like-lefty-blogger
" No, ludicrous. I mean, on one hand, he's a malevolent guy who
killed
3,000 Americans. But you read this thing, and it's like he's been
sitting around reading lefty blogs, and he's one of these childish
people posting rants at the bottom the page, you know, Noam Chomsky and
all this stuff.
You can't help read it and not laugh at it, occasionally, because it
is just absurd. It's flying this way, and that way, weird conspiracy
theories, and mortgages, global warming. He throws it all in there.
The one thing that leapt out -- and Bruce Hoffman and the others
mentioned this -- was how Western it is. And a friend of mine, Reuel
Gerecht, points out that there's this argument that Western ideas never
permeated into the Arab world, but in fact it's all -- I mean, a lot of
the worst ideas from the West have permeated in, and he's picked up
Noam
Chomsky, and he's picked up some of the anti-globalization stuff. And
that's what infuses this."
Not really, Bin Laden's the one who bitches about high taxes.- Tekst uit
oorspronkelijk bericht niet weergeven -
- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht weergeven -
Bin Laden is a Republican?!?
Nope. He just has more sense than Olbermann.
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09 Sep 2007 12:17:09 PM |
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On 9 sep, 17:10, "Fester" <n...@home.com> wrote:
<pba...@worldonline.nl> wrote in message
news:1189344108.745484.75560@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
On 9 sep, 03:22, "Fester" <n...@home.com> wrote:
"Fred Stone" <fston...@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:Xns99A5CC28C635Bfreddybear@216.151.153.44...
Full transcript of Osama tape here:
http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/msnbc/sections/news/070907
_bin_laden_transcript.pdf
Is Bin Laden channeling Keith Olbermann? Or vice-versa?
http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2007/09/osama-bin-laden-
keith-olberman-same.html
Or maybe Osama's just a lefty blogger...
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2007/09/08/nyt-s-david-
brooks-bin-laden-sounds-like-lefty-blogger
" No, ludicrous. I mean, on one hand, he's a malevolent guy who
killed
3,000 Americans. But you read this thing, and it's like he's been
sitting around reading lefty blogs, and he's one of these childish
people posting rants at the bottom the page, you know, Noam Chomsky and
all this stuff.
You can't help read it and not laugh at it, occasionally, because it
is just absurd. It's flying this way, and that way, weird conspiracy
theories, and mortgages, global warming. He throws it all in there.
The one thing that leapt out -- and Bruce Hoffman and the others
mentioned this -- was how Western it is. And a friend of mine, Reuel
Gerecht, points out that there's this argument that Western ideas never
permeated into the Arab world, but in fact it's all -- I mean, a lot of
the worst ideas from the West have permeated in, and he's picked up
Noam
Chomsky, and he's picked up some of the anti-globalization stuff. And
that's what infuses this."
Not really, Bin Laden's the one who bitches about high taxes.- Tekst uit
oorspronkelijk bericht niet weergeven -
- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht weergeven -
Bin Laden is a Republican?!?
Nope. He just has more sense than Olbermann.- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht niet weergeven -
- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht weergeven -
If he has any sense a all than according to Yang he can't be a
republican,
and according to Fred he can't be a democrate.
That explains why everyone his holding on to the current election
system:)
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09 Sep 2007 03:33:10 PM |
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<pbamvv@worldonline.nl> wrote in message
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On 9 sep, 17:10, "Fester" <n...@home.com> wrote:
<pba...@worldonline.nl> wrote in message
news:1189344108.745484.75560@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
On 9 sep, 03:22, "Fester" <n...@home.com> wrote:
"Fred Stone" <fston...@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:Xns99A5CC28C635Bfreddybear@216.151.153.44...
Full transcript of Osama tape here:
http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/msnbc/sections/news/070907
_bin_laden_transcript.pdf
Is Bin Laden channeling Keith Olbermann? Or vice-versa?
http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2007/09/osama-bin-laden-
keith-olberman-same.html
Or maybe Osama's just a lefty blogger...
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2007/09/08/nyt-s-david-
brooks-bin-laden-sounds-like-lefty-blogger
" No, ludicrous. I mean, on one hand, he's a malevolent guy who
killed
3,000 Americans. But you read this thing, and it's like he's been
sitting around reading lefty blogs, and he's one of these childish
people posting rants at the bottom the page, you know, Noam Chomsky
and
all this stuff.
You can't help read it and not laugh at it, occasionally, because
it
is just absurd. It's flying this way, and that way, weird conspiracy
theories, and mortgages, global warming. He throws it all in there.
The one thing that leapt out -- and Bruce Hoffman and the others
mentioned this -- was how Western it is. And a friend of mine, Reuel
Gerecht, points out that there's this argument that Western ideas
never
permeated into the Arab world, but in fact it's all -- I mean, a lot
of
the worst ideas from the West have permeated in, and he's picked up
Noam
Chomsky, and he's picked up some of the anti-globalization stuff.
And
that's what infuses this."
Not really, Bin Laden's the one who bitches about high taxes.- Tekst
uit
oorspronkelijk bericht niet weergeven -
- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht weergeven -
Bin Laden is a Republican?!?
Nope. He just has more sense than Olbermann.- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk
bericht niet weergeven -
- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht weergeven -
If he has any sense a all than according to Yang he can't be a
republican,
The according to Yang part is the operative qualifier. OBL is a genocidal
manic, bent on world domination and the spread of slavery to his religious
stupidity. Compared to Yang he's as sane as George Washington was.
and according to Fred he can't be a democrate.
Of course he can. In fact he's a model Democrat in the mold of George
Soros. Being more sane than Olbermann is also a pathetically low low bar.
That explains why everyone his holding on to the current election
system:)
When choosing between bad and catastrophic, I'll choose bad.
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10 Sep 2007 06:15:19 AM |
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On 9 sep, 22:33, "Fester" <n...@home.com> wrote:
<pba...@worldonline.nl> wrote in message
news:1189358229.983120.122740@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
On 9 sep, 17:10, "Fester" <n...@home.com> wrote:
<pba...@worldonline.nl> wrote in message
news:1189344108.745484.75560@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
On 9 sep, 03:22, "Fester" <n...@home.com> wrote:
"Fred Stone" <fston...@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:Xns99A5CC28C635Bfreddybear@216.151.153.44...
Full transcript of Osama tape here:
http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/msnbc/sections/news/070907
_bin_laden_transcript.pdf
Is Bin Laden channeling Keith Olbermann? Or vice-versa?
http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2007/09/osama-bin-laden-
keith-olberman-same.html
Or maybe Osama's just a lefty blogger...
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2007/09/08/nyt-s-david-
brooks-bin-laden-sounds-like-lefty-blogger
" No, ludicrous. I mean, on one hand, he's a malevolent guy who
killed
3,000 Americans. But you read this thing, and it's like he's been
sitting around reading lefty blogs, and he's one of these childish
people posting rants at the bottom the page, you know, Noam Chomsky
and
all this stuff.
You can't help read it and not laugh at it, occasionally, because
it
is just absurd. It's flying this way, and that way, weird conspiracy
theories, and mortgages, global warming. He throws it all in there.
The one thing that leapt out -- and Bruce Hoffman and the others
mentioned this -- was how Western it is. And a friend of mine, Reuel
Gerecht, points out that there's this argument that Western ideas
never
permeated into the Arab world, but in fact it's all -- I mean, a lot
of
the worst ideas from the West have permeated in, and he's picked up
Noam
Chomsky, and he's picked up some of the anti-globalization stuff.
And
that's what infuses this."
Not really, Bin Laden's the one who bitches about high taxes.- Tekst
uit
oorspronkelijk bericht niet weergeven -
- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht weergeven -
Bin Laden is a Republican?!?
Nope. He just has more sense than Olbermann.- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk
bericht niet weergeven -
- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht weergeven -
If he has any sense a all than according to Yang he can't be a
republican,
The according to Yang part is the operative qualifier. OBL is a genocidal
manic, bent on world domination and the spread of slavery to his religious
stupidity. Compared to Yang he's as sane as George Washington was.
and according to Fred he can't be a democrate.
Of course he can. In fact he's a model Democrat in the mold of George
Soros. Being more sane than Olbermann is also a pathetically low low bar.
That explains why everyone his holding on to the current election
system:)
When choosing between bad and catastrophic, I'll choose bad.- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht niet weergeven -
Our system didn't produce any catastrophe so far.
According to some yours did
according to some the catastrophe's name was Bill
according to others his name is George.
Judging by this NG I would have to conclude
"Americans are crazy"
but that would be an obvious mistake.
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10 Sep 2007 06:28:01 AM |
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<pbamvv@worldonline.nl> wrote in message
news:1189422919.436811.184340@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com...
On 9 sep, 22:33, "Fester" <n...@home.com> wrote:
<pba...@worldonline.nl> wrote in message
news:1189358229.983120.122740@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
On 9 sep, 17:10, "Fester" <n...@home.com> wrote:
<pba...@worldonline.nl> wrote in message
news:1189344108.745484.75560@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
On 9 sep, 03:22, "Fester" <n...@home.com> wrote:
"Fred Stone" <fston...@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:Xns99A5CC28C635Bfreddybear@216.151.153.44...
Full transcript of Osama tape here:
http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/msnbc/sections/news/070907
_bin_laden_transcript.pdf
Is Bin Laden channeling Keith Olbermann? Or vice-versa?
http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2007/09/osama-bin-laden-
keith-olberman-same.html
Or maybe Osama's just a lefty blogger...
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2007/09/08/nyt-s-david-
brooks-bin-laden-sounds-like-lefty-blogger
" No, ludicrous. I mean, on one hand, he's a malevolent guy who
killed
3,000 Americans. But you read this thing, and it's like he's been
sitting around reading lefty blogs, and he's one of these
childish
people posting rants at the bottom the page, you know, Noam
Chomsky
and
all this stuff.
You can't help read it and not laugh at it, occasionally,
because
it
is just absurd. It's flying this way, and that way, weird
conspiracy
theories, and mortgages, global warming. He throws it all in
there.
The one thing that leapt out -- and Bruce Hoffman and the
others
mentioned this -- was how Western it is. And a friend of mine,
Reuel
Gerecht, points out that there's this argument that Western ideas
never
permeated into the Arab world, but in fact it's all -- I mean, a
lot
of
the worst ideas from the West have permeated in, and he's picked
up
Noam
Chomsky, and he's picked up some of the anti-globalization stuff.
And
that's what infuses this."
Not really, Bin Laden's the one who bitches about high taxes.-
Tekst
uit
oorspronkelijk bericht niet weergeven -
- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht weergeven -
Bin Laden is a Republican?!?
Nope. He just has more sense than Olbermann.- Tekst uit
oorspronkelijk
bericht niet weergeven -
- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht weergeven -
If he has any sense a all than according to Yang he can't be a
republican,
The according to Yang part is the operative qualifier. OBL is a
genocidal
manic, bent on world domination and the spread of slavery to his
religious
stupidity. Compared to Yang he's as sane as George Washington was.
and according to Fred he can't be a democrate.
Of course he can. In fact he's a model Democrat in the mold of George
Soros. Being more sane than Olbermann is also a pathetically low low
bar.
That explains why everyone his holding on to the current election
system:)
When choosing between bad and catastrophic, I'll choose bad.- Tekst uit
oorspronkelijk bericht niet weergeven -
Our system didn't produce any catastrophe so far.
Your country is too insignificant to have produced any catastrophes aside
from domestic ones.
According to some yours did
according to some the catastrophe's name was Bill
according to others his name is George.
Judging by this NG I would have to conclude
"Americans are crazy"
but that would be an obvious mistake.
This NG is dominated by leftist, barking moonbats. If it were
representative of Americans your conclusion would be quite correct.
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| Title: Re: Bin Laden or Olbermann? Hard to tell... |
11 Sep 2007 07:58:29 AM |
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On 10 sep, 13:28, "Fester" <n...@home.com> wrote:
<pba...@worldonline.nl> wrote in message
news:1189422919.436811.184340@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com...
On 9 sep, 22:33, "Fester" <n...@home.com> wrote:
<pba...@worldonline.nl> wrote in message
news:1189358229.983120.122740@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
On 9 sep, 17:10, "Fester" <n...@home.com> wrote:
<pba...@worldonline.nl> wrote in message
news:1189344108.745484.75560@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
On 9 sep, 03:22, "Fester" <n...@home.com> wrote:
"Fred Stone" <fston...@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:Xns99A5CC28C635Bfreddybear@216.151.153.44...
Full transcript of Osama tape here:
http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/msnbc/sections/news/070907
_bin_laden_transcript.pdf
Is Bin Laden channeling Keith Olbermann? Or vice-versa?
http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2007/09/osama-bin-laden-
keith-olberman-same.html
Or maybe Osama's just a lefty blogger...
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2007/09/08/nyt-s-david-
brooks-bin-laden-sounds-like-lefty-blogger
" No, ludicrous. I mean, on one hand, he's a malevolent guy who
killed
3,000 Americans. But you read this thing, and it's like he's been
sitting around reading lefty blogs, and he's one of these
childish
people posting rants at the bottom the page, you know, Noam
Chomsky
and
all this stuff.
You can't help read it and not laugh at it, occasionally,
because
it
is just absurd. It's flying this way, and that way, weird
conspiracy
theories, and mortgages, global warming. He throws it all in
there.
The one thing that leapt out -- and Bruce Hoffman and the
others
mentioned this -- was how Western it is. And a friend of mine,
Reuel
Gerecht, points out that there's this argument that Western ideas
never
permeated into the Arab world, but in fact it's all -- I mean, a
lot
of
the worst ideas from the West have permeated in, and he's picked
up
Noam
Chomsky, and he's picked up some of the anti-globalization stuff.
And
that's what infuses this."
Not really, Bin Laden's the one who bitches about high taxes.-
Tekst
uit
oorspronkelijk bericht niet weergeven -
- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht weergeven -
Bin Laden is a Republican?!?
Nope. He just has more sense than Olbermann.- Tekst uit
oorspronkelijk
bericht niet weergeven -
- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht weergeven -
If he has any sense a all than according to Yang he can't be a
republican,
The according to Yang part is the operative qualifier. OBL is a
genocidal
manic, bent on world domination and the spread of slavery to his
religious
stupidity. Compared to Yang he's as sane as George Washington was.
and according to Fred he can't be a democrate.
Of course he can. In fact he's a model Democrat in the mold of George
Soros. Being more sane than Olbermann is also a pathetically low low
bar.
That explains why everyone his holding on to the current election
system:)
When choosing between bad and catastrophic, I'll choose bad.- Tekst uit
oorspronkelijk bericht niet weergeven -
Our system didn't produce any catastrophe so far.
Your country is too insignificant to have produced any catastrophes aside
from domestic ones.
According to some yours did
according to some the catastrophe's name was Bill
according to others his name is George.
Judging by this NG I would have to conclude
"Americans are crazy"
but that would be an obvious mistake.
This NG is dominated by leftist, barking moonbats. If it were
representative of Americans your conclusion would be quite correct.- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht niet weergeven -
- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht weergeven -
For some silly reason the leftists would agree with you in a mirror-
kind of way:)
But some are intelligent enought to deduct it actually has little to
do with the US of A. And I have to agree, it is a common thing amongst
humans.
Intelligence cannot exist without stupidity.
Wondering how the next natural catastrophe will be named.
Peter van Velzen
(sort of a leftist)
September 2007
Amstelveen
The Netherlands
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10 Sep 2007 11:06:14 AM |
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[Default] On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 04:15:19 -0700, "pbamvv@worldonline.nl"
<pbamvv@worldonline.nl> wrote:
Judging by this NG I would have to conclude
"Americans are crazy"
but that would be an obvious mistake.
The newsgroup isn't representative of Americans but, for the most
part, your conclusion, although arrived at by an invalid path, is
correct.
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| User: "Kate " |
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10 Sep 2007 07:53:02 PM |
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On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 12:06:14 -0400, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
[Default] On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 04:15:19 -0700, "pbamvv@worldonline.nl"
<pbamvv@worldonline.nl> wrote:
Judging by this NG I would have to conclude
"Americans are crazy"
but that would be an obvious mistake.
The newsgroup isn't representative of Americans but, for the most
part, your conclusion, although arrived at by an invalid path, is
correct.
I've been to Europe and the middle east, and I'd have to say, we sure
aren't the only ones.
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11 Sep 2007 07:53:49 AM |
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On 11 sep, 02:53, (Kate ) wrote:
On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 12:06:14 -0400, Al Klein <ruk...@pern.invalid>
wrote:
[Default] On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 04:15:19 -0700, "pba...@worldonline.nl"
<pba...@worldonline.nl> wrote:
Judging by this NG I would have to conclude
"Americans are crazy"
but that would be an obvious mistake.
The newsgroup isn't representative of Americans but, for the most
part, your conclusion, although arrived at by an invalid path, is
correct.
I've been to Europe and the middle east, and I'd have to say, we sure
aren't the only ones.
Stupidity is a common attribute of humans):
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10 Sep 2007 03:38:48 PM |
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On 09 Sep 2007 00:01:39 GMT, in alt.atheism , Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> in
<Xns99A5CC28C635Bfreddybear@216.151.153.44> wrote:
Full transcript of Osama tape here:
http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/msnbc/sections/news/070907
_bin_laden_transcript.pdf
Is Bin Laden channeling Keith Olbermann? Or vice-versa?
http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2007/09/osama-bin-laden-
keith-olberman-same.html
Or maybe Osama's just a lefty blogger...
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2007/09/08/nyt-s-david-
brooks-bin-laden-sounds-like-lefty-blogger
" No, ludicrous. I mean, on one hand, he's a malevolent guy who killed
3,000 Americans. But you read this thing, and it's like he's been
sitting around reading lefty blogs, and he's one of these childish
people posting rants at the bottom the page, you know, Noam Chomsky and
all this stuff.
You can't help read it and not laugh at it, occasionally, because it
is just absurd. It's flying this way, and that way, weird conspiracy
theories, and mortgages, global warming. He throws it all in there.
The one thing that leapt out -- and Bruce Hoffman and the others
mentioned this -- was how Western it is. And a friend of mine, Reuel
Gerecht, points out that there's this argument that Western ideas never
permeated into the Arab world, but in fact it's all -- I mean, a lot of
the worst ideas from the West have permeated in, and he's picked up Noam
Chomsky, and he's picked up some of the anti-globalization stuff. And
that's what infuses this."
Stop trolling Fred.
--
Matt Silberstein
Do something today about the Darfur Genocide
http://www.beawitness.org
http://www.darfurgenocide.org
http://www.savedarfur.org
"Darfur: A Genocide We can Stop"
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09 Sep 2007 08:21:09 AM |
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On 9 sep, 02:01, Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote:
Full transcript of Osama tape here:http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/msnbc/sections/news/070907
_bin_laden_transcript.pdf
Is Bin Laden channeling Keith Olbermann? Or vice-versa?http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2007/09/osama-bin-laden-
keith-olberman-same.html
Or maybe Osama's just a lefty blogger...http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2007/09/08/nyt-s-david-
brooks-bin-laden-sounds-like-lefty-blogger
" No, ludicrous. I mean, on one hand, he's a malevolent guy who killed
3,000 Americans. But you read this thing, and it's like he's been
sitting around reading lefty blogs, and he's one of these childish
people posting rants at the bottom the page, you know, Noam Chomsky and
all this stuff.
You can't help read it and not laugh at it, occasionally, because it
is just absurd. It's flying this way, and that way, weird conspiracy
theories, and mortgages, global warming. He throws it all in there.
The one thing that leapt out -- and Bruce Hoffman and the others
mentioned this -- was how Western it is. And a friend of mine, Reuel
Gerecht, points out that there's this argument that Western ideas never
permeated into the Arab world, but in fact it's all -- I mean, a lot of
the worst ideas from the West have permeated in, and he's picked up Noam
Chomsky, and he's picked up some of the anti-globalization stuff. And
that's what infuses this."
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"The hypocrisy argument is a tactic used by thought fascists who believe
an immutable personal characteristic must dictate - without exception -
the ideological and political state of a person's mind."
Your first to links did not work "frame not found"
your third link only brought me headers.
Peter van Velzen
September 2007
Amstelveen
The Netherlands
PS If you are willing to seriously debate Yang on Iraq
why not listen to Christopher Hitchinns.
He does it a bit more intellegently
I think you can learn a great deal from him.
I heard his opening remarks in a debate with Galloway
and I was impressed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INy2ysHhgYM&mode=related&search=
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