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"johac" |
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08 Dec 2007 02:56:20 AM |
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Biologist fired for creationist beliefs, suit says |
He was hired to do biology. He doesn't want to do biology so he was
fired and now he wants to sue. What a fundyloon!
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Biologist fired for beliefs, suit says
Woods Hole states creationist stance at odds with work
By Beth Daley, Globe Staff | December 7, 2007
The battle between science and creationism has reached the prestigious
Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution, where a former researcher is
claiming he was fired because he doesn't believe in evolution.
Nathaniel Abraham filed a lawsuit earlier this week in US District Court
in Boston saying that the Cape Cod research center dismissed him in 2004
because of his Christian belief that the Bible presents a true account
of human creation.
Abraham, who is seeking $500,000 in compensation for a violation of his
civil rights, says in the suit that he lost his job as a postdoctoral
researcher in a biology lab shortly after he told his superior that he
did not accept evolution as scientific fact.
"Woods Hole believes they have the right to insist on a belief in
evolution," said David C. Gibbs III, one of Abraham's two attorneys and
general counsel of the Christian Law Association in Seminole, Fla.
Evolution is a fundamental tenet of biology that species emerge because
of genetic changes to organisms that, over time, favor their survival.
Creationists reject the notion that humans evolved from apes and that
life on Earth began billions of years ago, but Gibbs said Abraham "truly
believes there was no conflict between religion and his job."
Woods Hole officials released a statement saying, "The Institution
firmly believes that its actions and those of its employees concerning
Dr. Abraham were entirely lawful," and that the center does not
discriminate on the basis of religion.
In a 2004 letter to Abraham, his boss, Woods Hole senior scien tist Mark
E. Hahn, wrote that Abraham said he did not want to work on
"evolutionary aspects" of the National Institutes of Health grant for
which he was hired, even though the project clearly required scientists
to use the principles of evolution in their analyses and writing.
The lawsuit is the latest in a series of cases pitting creationists
against scientists in academic settings. Last year, a University of
Rhode Island student was awarded a doctorate in geosciences despite
opposition after it became known that he was a creationist. Earlier this
year, an Iowa State University astronomer claimed he was denied tenure
because he did not believe in evolution.
Like these cases, the Abraham lawsuit pointedly raises the question: Can
people work in a scientific field if they don't believe in its basic
tenets?
"I have a cleaning woman who is a Seventh-day Adventist and neither of
us feel any tension," said Michael Ruse, a philosopher of science at
Florida State University who has written extensively on creationism and
evolutionary biology. "Yet, what is a person doing in an evolutionary
lab when they don't believe in evolution . . . and didn't tell anybody
they didn't believe in evolution?"
Abraham did not return a telephone call seeking comment. An Indian
citizen, he now works at Liberty University, a Christian university in
Lynchburg, Va., founded by the Rev. Jerry Falwell.
He has a master's degree in biology and a philosophy doctorate, both
from St. John's University in New York, a university spokeswoman said.
He was hired by Hahn's marine biology lab in March 2004 because of his
expertise working with zebra fish and in toxicology and developmental
biology, according to court documents. He did not tell anyone his
creationist views before being hired. Hahn's lab, according to its
website, studies how aquatic animals respond to chemical contaminants by
examining ". . . mechanisms from a comparative/evolutionary perspective."
In October 2004, both agree, Abraham made a passing comment to Hahn
saying he did not believe in evolution.
"My supervisor appeared angry and asked me what I meant," Abraham wrote
in a 2005 complaint he filed with the Massachusetts Commission Against
Discrimination. "My supervisor and I had a follow up meeting during
which my supervisor informed me that if I do not believe in evolution,
then he was paying me for only 7 to 10 percent of the work I was doing
under the grant."
Abraham said he told Hahn he would do extra work to compensate and "was
willing to discuss evolution as a theory."
But on Nov. 17, Hahn asked him to resign, pointing out in the letter
that Abraham should have known of evolution's centrality to the project
because it was evident from the job advertisement and grant proposal.
". . . You have indicated that you do not recognize the concept of
biological evolution and you would not agree to include a full
discussion of the evolutionary implications and interpretations of our
research in any co-authored publications resulting from this work," Hahn
wrote in the letter, which the commission provided to the Globe. "This
position is incompatible with the work as proposed to NIH and with my
own vision of how it should be carried out and interpreted."
Abraham's last day at the lab was Dec. 14, 2004.
The commission dismissed his complaint earlier this year. The commission
said Abraham was terminated because his request not to work on
evolutionary aspects of the project would be challenging for Woods Hole
because the research was based on evolutionary theories.
But Gibbs said that Abraham, after disclosing his religious beliefs to
Hahn, was subjected to a hostile work environment. "There was a
systematic attempt for him to change his beliefs or resign," Gibbs said.
"His life has been turned upside down by this."
Eugenie C. Scott, executive director for the National Center for Science
Education, which defends the teaching of evolution in public schools,
said Abraham was clearly being disingenuous when he applied for the job
because he was hired to work in the field of developmental biology.
"It is inconceivable that someone working in developmental biology at a
major research institution would not be expected to deal intimately with
evolution," she said. "A flight school hiring instructors wouldn't ask
whether they accepted that the earth was spherical; they would assume
it. Similarly, Woods Hole would have assumed that someone hired to work
in developmental biology would accept that evolution occurred. It's part
and parcel of the science these days."
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John #1782
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Biologist fired for creationist beliefs, suit says |
08 Dec 2007 04:12:02 AM |
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On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 00:56:20 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
He was hired to do biology. He doesn't want to do biology so he was
fired and now he wants to sue. What a fundyloon!
---
Biologist fired for beliefs, suit says
Woods Hole states creationist stance at odds with work
By Beth Daley, Globe Staff | December 7, 2007
The battle between science and creationism has reached the prestigious
Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution, where a former researcher is
claiming he was fired because he doesn't believe in evolution.
Nathaniel Abraham filed a lawsuit earlier this week in US District Court
in Boston saying that the Cape Cod research center dismissed him in 2004
because of his Christian belief that the Bible presents a true account
of human creation.
What?
Fired for wishing to teach superstious LIES in preference to FACTS, at
a premier science institute?
Whatever next?
Tit for Tat, comes to mind.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Biologist fired for creationist beliefs, suit says |
09 Dec 2007 01:49:22 AM |
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In article <3crkl3deaarjrsh4clqr77aurs02efdenb@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 00:56:20 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
He was hired to do biology. He doesn't want to do biology so he was
fired and now he wants to sue. What a fundyloon!
---
Biologist fired for beliefs, suit says
Woods Hole states creationist stance at odds with work
By Beth Daley, Globe Staff | December 7, 2007
The battle between science and creationism has reached the prestigious
Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution, where a former researcher is
claiming he was fired because he doesn't believe in evolution.
Nathaniel Abraham filed a lawsuit earlier this week in US District Court
in Boston saying that the Cape Cod research center dismissed him in 2004
because of his Christian belief that the Bible presents a true account
of human creation.
What?
Fired for wishing to teach superstious LIES in preference to FACTS, at
a premier science institute?
Whatever next?
Maybe he could get a job in a geology department somewhere and teach
'flat earth' theory.
Tit for Tat, comes to mind.
Heh. If someone went to a fundy school like Liberty University and
taught actual science, how long would he or she last?
--
John #1782
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Biologist fired for creationist beliefs, suit says |
09 Dec 2007 03:00:06 AM |
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On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 23:49:22 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <3crkl3deaarjrsh4clqr77aurs02efdenb@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 00:56:20 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
He was hired to do biology. He doesn't want to do biology so he was
fired and now he wants to sue. What a fundyloon!
---
Biologist fired for beliefs, suit says
Woods Hole states creationist stance at odds with work
By Beth Daley, Globe Staff | December 7, 2007
The battle between science and creationism has reached the prestigious
Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution, where a former researcher is
claiming he was fired because he doesn't believe in evolution.
Nathaniel Abraham filed a lawsuit earlier this week in US District Court
in Boston saying that the Cape Cod research center dismissed him in 2004
because of his Christian belief that the Bible presents a true account
of human creation.
What?
Fired for wishing to teach superstious LIES in preference to FACTS, at
a premier science institute?
Whatever next?
Maybe he could get a job in a geology department somewhere and teach
'flat earth' theory.
Tit for Tat, comes to mind.
Heh. If someone went to a fundy school like Liberty University and
taught actual science, how long would he or she last?
2 feet.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Biologist fired for creationist beliefs, suit says |
10 Dec 2007 12:16:04 AM |
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In article <ckbnl3h4hm1h2r9rjn9aqv6rs4j6gmm5jv@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 23:49:22 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <3crkl3deaarjrsh4clqr77aurs02efdenb@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 00:56:20 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
He was hired to do biology. He doesn't want to do biology so he was
fired and now he wants to sue. What a fundyloon!
---
Biologist fired for beliefs, suit says
Woods Hole states creationist stance at odds with work
By Beth Daley, Globe Staff | December 7, 2007
The battle between science and creationism has reached the prestigious
Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution, where a former researcher is
claiming he was fired because he doesn't believe in evolution.
Nathaniel Abraham filed a lawsuit earlier this week in US District Court
in Boston saying that the Cape Cod research center dismissed him in 2004
because of his Christian belief that the Bible presents a true account
of human creation.
What?
Fired for wishing to teach superstious LIES in preference to FACTS, at
a premier science institute?
Whatever next?
Maybe he could get a job in a geology department somewhere and teach
'flat earth' theory.
Tit for Tat, comes to mind.
Heh. If someone went to a fundy school like Liberty University and
taught actual science, how long would he or she last?
2 feet.
They bury them shallow there?
--
John #1782
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Biologist fired for creationist beliefs, suit says |
10 Dec 2007 12:50:53 AM |
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On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 22:16:04 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <ckbnl3h4hm1h2r9rjn9aqv6rs4j6gmm5jv@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 23:49:22 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <3crkl3deaarjrsh4clqr77aurs02efdenb@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 00:56:20 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
He was hired to do biology. He doesn't want to do biology so he was
fired and now he wants to sue. What a fundyloon!
---
Biologist fired for beliefs, suit says
Woods Hole states creationist stance at odds with work
By Beth Daley, Globe Staff | December 7, 2007
The battle between science and creationism has reached the prestigious
Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution, where a former researcher is
claiming he was fired because he doesn't believe in evolution.
Nathaniel Abraham filed a lawsuit earlier this week in US District Court
in Boston saying that the Cape Cod research center dismissed him in 2004
because of his Christian belief that the Bible presents a true account
of human creation.
What?
Fired for wishing to teach superstious LIES in preference to FACTS, at
a premier science institute?
Whatever next?
Maybe he could get a job in a geology department somewhere and teach
'flat earth' theory.
Tit for Tat, comes to mind.
Heh. If someone went to a fundy school like Liberty University and
taught actual science, how long would he or she last?
2 feet.
They bury them shallow there?
What's left of them after the sharks have had their fill, yes.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Biologist fired for creationist beliefs, suit says |
11 Dec 2007 12:33:52 AM |
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In article <ndopl3lk12d346auvm9376jrcdpaer8bhd@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 22:16:04 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <ckbnl3h4hm1h2r9rjn9aqv6rs4j6gmm5jv@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 23:49:22 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <3crkl3deaarjrsh4clqr77aurs02efdenb@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 00:56:20 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
He was hired to do biology. He doesn't want to do biology so he was
fired and now he wants to sue. What a fundyloon!
---
Biologist fired for beliefs, suit says
Woods Hole states creationist stance at odds with work
By Beth Daley, Globe Staff | December 7, 2007
The battle between science and creationism has reached the prestigious
Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution, where a former researcher is
claiming he was fired because he doesn't believe in evolution.
Nathaniel Abraham filed a lawsuit earlier this week in US District
Court
in Boston saying that the Cape Cod research center dismissed him in
2004
because of his Christian belief that the Bible presents a true account
of human creation.
What?
Fired for wishing to teach superstious LIES in preference to FACTS, at
a premier science institute?
Whatever next?
Maybe he could get a job in a geology department somewhere and teach
'flat earth' theory.
Tit for Tat, comes to mind.
Heh. If someone went to a fundy school like Liberty University and
taught actual science, how long would he or she last?
2 feet.
They bury them shallow there?
What's left of them after the sharks have had their fill, yes.
I thought they might have been burned at the stake.
--
John #1782
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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11 Dec 2007 01:22:27 AM |
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On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 22:33:52 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <ndopl3lk12d346auvm9376jrcdpaer8bhd@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 22:16:04 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <ckbnl3h4hm1h2r9rjn9aqv6rs4j6gmm5jv@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 23:49:22 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <3crkl3deaarjrsh4clqr77aurs02efdenb@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 00:56:20 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
He was hired to do biology. He doesn't want to do biology so he was
fired and now he wants to sue. What a fundyloon!
---
Biologist fired for beliefs, suit says
Woods Hole states creationist stance at odds with work
By Beth Daley, Globe Staff | December 7, 2007
The battle between science and creationism has reached the prestigious
Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution, where a former researcher is
claiming he was fired because he doesn't believe in evolution.
Nathaniel Abraham filed a lawsuit earlier this week in US District
Court
in Boston saying that the Cape Cod research center dismissed him in
2004
because of his Christian belief that the Bible presents a true account
of human creation.
What?
Fired for wishing to teach superstious LIES in preference to FACTS, at
a premier science institute?
Whatever next?
Maybe he could get a job in a geology department somewhere and teach
'flat earth' theory.
Tit for Tat, comes to mind.
Heh. If someone went to a fundy school like Liberty University and
taught actual science, how long would he or she last?
2 feet.
They bury them shallow there?
What's left of them after the sharks have had their fill, yes.
I thought they might have been burned at the stake.
Mmmm... I could "go" a nice shark steak for dinner...
Now, where is my trident?
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Biologist fired for creationist beliefs, suit says |
12 Dec 2007 12:18:11 AM |
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In article <7kesl3te9srfogosdlrd46tu6gl728tiee@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 22:33:52 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <ndopl3lk12d346auvm9376jrcdpaer8bhd@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 22:16:04 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <ckbnl3h4hm1h2r9rjn9aqv6rs4j6gmm5jv@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 23:49:22 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <3crkl3deaarjrsh4clqr77aurs02efdenb@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 00:56:20 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
He was hired to do biology. He doesn't want to do biology so he was
fired and now he wants to sue. What a fundyloon!
---
Biologist fired for beliefs, suit says
Woods Hole states creationist stance at odds with work
By Beth Daley, Globe Staff | December 7, 2007
The battle between science and creationism has reached the
prestigious
Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution, where a former researcher is
claiming he was fired because he doesn't believe in evolution.
Nathaniel Abraham filed a lawsuit earlier this week in US District
Court
in Boston saying that the Cape Cod research center dismissed him in
2004
because of his Christian belief that the Bible presents a true
account
of human creation.
What?
Fired for wishing to teach superstious LIES in preference to FACTS,
at
a premier science institute?
Whatever next?
Maybe he could get a job in a geology department somewhere and teach
'flat earth' theory.
Tit for Tat, comes to mind.
Heh. If someone went to a fundy school like Liberty University and
taught actual science, how long would he or she last?
2 feet.
They bury them shallow there?
What's left of them after the sharks have had their fill, yes.
I thought they might have been burned at the stake.
Mmmm... I could "go" a nice shark steak for dinner...
Now, where is my trident?
I'd join you, but I'm allergic to shark. I can eat any other kind of
fish or shellfish, but not shark. The last few times I had it, the shark
'escaped'.
--
John #1782
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| User: "Brian E. Clark" |
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12 Dec 2007 06:47:16 PM |
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In article <jhachmann-371C54.22181111122007
@news.giganews.com>, johac said...
I'd join you, but I'm allergic to shark. I can eat any other kind of
fish or shellfish, but not shark. The last few times I had it, the shark
'escaped'.
Farewell and adieu, to you fine Spanish ladies...
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Brian E. Clark
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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14 Dec 2007 08:31:10 AM |
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"Brian E. Clark" <reply@newsgroup.only.please> wrote in message
news:MPG.21ca4b1d57261fb598ad3c@216.196.97.136...
In article <jhachmann-371C54.22181111122007
@news.giganews.com>, johac said...
I'd join you, but I'm allergic to shark. I can eat any other kind of
fish or shellfish, but not shark. The last few times I had it, the shark
'escaped'.
Farewell and adieu, to you fine Spanish ladies...
Let's drink to your leg!
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
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| User: "johac" |
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12 Dec 2007 11:53:08 PM |
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In article <MPG.21ca4b1d57261fb598ad3c@216.196.97.136>,
Brian E. Clark <reply@newsgroup.only.please> wrote:
In article <jhachmann-371C54.22181111122007
@news.giganews.com>, johac said...
I'd join you, but I'm allergic to shark. I can eat any other kind of
fish or shellfish, but not shark. The last few times I had it, the shark
'escaped'.
Farewell and adieu, to you fine Spanish ladies...
At the time, I didn't exactly feel like singing.
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John #1782
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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12 Dec 2007 01:25:35 AM |
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On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:18:11 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <7kesl3te9srfogosdlrd46tu6gl728tiee@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 22:33:52 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <ndopl3lk12d346auvm9376jrcdpaer8bhd@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 22:16:04 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <ckbnl3h4hm1h2r9rjn9aqv6rs4j6gmm5jv@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 23:49:22 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <3crkl3deaarjrsh4clqr77aurs02efdenb@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 00:56:20 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
He was hired to do biology. He doesn't want to do biology so he was
fired and now he wants to sue. What a fundyloon!
---
Biologist fired for beliefs, suit says
Woods Hole states creationist stance at odds with work
By Beth Daley, Globe Staff | December 7, 2007
The battle between science and creationism has reached the
prestigious
Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution, where a former researcher is
claiming he was fired because he doesn't believe in evolution.
Nathaniel Abraham filed a lawsuit earlier this week in US District
Court
in Boston saying that the Cape Cod research center dismissed him in
2004
because of his Christian belief that the Bible presents a true
account
of human creation.
What?
Fired for wishing to teach superstious LIES in preference to FACTS,
at
a premier science institute?
Whatever next?
Maybe he could get a job in a geology department somewhere and teach
'flat earth' theory.
Tit for Tat, comes to mind.
Heh. If someone went to a fundy school like Liberty University and
taught actual science, how long would he or she last?
2 feet.
They bury them shallow there?
What's left of them after the sharks have had their fill, yes.
I thought they might have been burned at the stake.
Mmmm... I could "go" a nice shark steak for dinner...
Now, where is my trident?
I'd join you, but I'm allergic to shark. I can eat any other kind of
fish or shellfish, but not shark. The last few times I had it, the shark
'escaped'.
I'll have yours then, mate!
Shark makes great spam, if you can it right.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Biologist fired for creationist beliefs, suit says |
12 Dec 2007 01:44:13 AM |
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In article <d63vl3tl9abfgldov8tdpas02mk2htu05s@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:18:11 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <7kesl3te9srfogosdlrd46tu6gl728tiee@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 22:33:52 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <ndopl3lk12d346auvm9376jrcdpaer8bhd@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 22:16:04 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <ckbnl3h4hm1h2r9rjn9aqv6rs4j6gmm5jv@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 23:49:22 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <3crkl3deaarjrsh4clqr77aurs02efdenb@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 00:56:20 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
He was hired to do biology. He doesn't want to do biology so he
was
fired and now he wants to sue. What a fundyloon!
---
Biologist fired for beliefs, suit says
Woods Hole states creationist stance at odds with work
By Beth Daley, Globe Staff | December 7, 2007
The battle between science and creationism has reached the
prestigious
Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution, where a former researcher
is
claiming he was fired because he doesn't believe in evolution.
Nathaniel Abraham filed a lawsuit earlier this week in US
District
Court
in Boston saying that the Cape Cod research center dismissed him
in
2004
because of his Christian belief that the Bible presents a true
account
of human creation.
What?
Fired for wishing to teach superstious LIES in preference to
FACTS,
at
a premier science institute?
Whatever next?
Maybe he could get a job in a geology department somewhere and
teach
'flat earth' theory.
Tit for Tat, comes to mind.
Heh. If someone went to a fundy school like Liberty University and
taught actual science, how long would he or she last?
2 feet.
They bury them shallow there?
What's left of them after the sharks have had their fill, yes.
I thought they might have been burned at the stake.
Mmmm... I could "go" a nice shark steak for dinner...
Now, where is my trident?
I'd join you, but I'm allergic to shark. I can eat any other kind of
fish or shellfish, but not shark. The last few times I had it, the shark
'escaped'.
I'll have yours then, mate!
Shark makes great spam, if you can it right.
The few times that I had it, I liked it, but it didn't like me.
--
John #1782
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| Title: Re: Biologist fired for creationist beliefs, suit says |
12 Dec 2007 02:58:59 AM |
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On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 23:44:13 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <d63vl3tl9abfgldov8tdpas02mk2htu05s@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:18:11 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <7kesl3te9srfogosdlrd46tu6gl728tiee@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 22:33:52 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <ndopl3lk12d346auvm9376jrcdpaer8bhd@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 22:16:04 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <ckbnl3h4hm1h2r9rjn9aqv6rs4j6gmm5jv@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 23:49:22 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <3crkl3deaarjrsh4clqr77aurs02efdenb@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 00:56:20 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
He was hired to do biology. He doesn't want to do biology so he
was
fired and now he wants to sue. What a fundyloon!
---
Biologist fired for beliefs, suit says
Woods Hole states creationist stance at odds with work
By Beth Daley, Globe Staff | December 7, 2007
The battle between science and creationism has reached the
prestigious
Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution, where a former researcher
is
claiming he was fired because he doesn't believe in evolution.
Nathaniel Abraham filed a lawsuit earlier this week in US
District
Court
in Boston saying that the Cape Cod research center dismissed him
in
2004
because of his Christian belief that the Bible presents a true
account
of human creation.
What?
Fired for wishing to teach superstious LIES in preference to
FACTS,
at
a premier science institute?
Whatever next?
Maybe he could get a job in a geology department somewhere and
teach
'flat earth' theory.
Tit for Tat, comes to mind.
Heh. If someone went to a fundy school like Liberty University and
taught actual science, how long would he or she last?
2 feet.
They bury them shallow there?
What's left of them after the sharks have had their fill, yes.
I thought they might have been burned at the stake.
Mmmm... I could "go" a nice shark steak for dinner...
Now, where is my trident?
I'd join you, but I'm allergic to shark. I can eat any other kind of
fish or shellfish, but not shark. The last few times I had it, the shark
'escaped'.
I'll have yours then, mate!
Shark makes great spam, if you can it right.
The few times that I had it, I liked it, but it didn't like me.
Spam doesn't like you? ;)
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| User: "johac" |
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12 Dec 2007 11:54:39 PM |
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In article <1m8vl3lubh7g1sskahkomsrlj8ut7m4elu@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 23:44:13 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <d63vl3tl9abfgldov8tdpas02mk2htu05s@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:18:11 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <7kesl3te9srfogosdlrd46tu6gl728tiee@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 22:33:52 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <ndopl3lk12d346auvm9376jrcdpaer8bhd@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 22:16:04 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <ckbnl3h4hm1h2r9rjn9aqv6rs4j6gmm5jv@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 23:49:22 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <3crkl3deaarjrsh4clqr77aurs02efdenb@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 00:56:20 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
He was hired to do biology. He doesn't want to do biology so
he
was
fired and now he wants to sue. What a fundyloon!
---
Biologist fired for beliefs, suit says
Woods Hole states creationist stance at odds with work
By Beth Daley, Globe Staff | December 7, 2007
The battle between science and creationism has reached the
prestigious
Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution, where a former
researcher
is
claiming he was fired because he doesn't believe in
evolution.
Nathaniel Abraham filed a lawsuit earlier this week in US
District
Court
in Boston saying that the Cape Cod research center dismissed
him
in
2004
because of his Christian belief that the Bible presents a
true
account
of human creation.
What?
Fired for wishing to teach superstious LIES in preference to
FACTS,
at
a premier science institute?
Whatever next?
Maybe he could get a job in a geology department somewhere and
teach
'flat earth' theory.
Tit for Tat, comes to mind.
Heh. If someone went to a fundy school like Liberty University
and
taught actual science, how long would he or she last?
2 feet.
They bury them shallow there?
What's left of them after the sharks have had their fill, yes.
I thought they might have been burned at the stake.
Mmmm... I could "go" a nice shark steak for dinner...
Now, where is my trident?
I'd join you, but I'm allergic to shark. I can eat any other kind of
fish or shellfish, but not shark. The last few times I had it, the shark
'escaped'.
I'll have yours then, mate!
Shark makes great spam, if you can it right.
The few times that I had it, I liked it, but it didn't like me.
Spam doesn't like you? ;)
The kind I delete or the kind I rarely buy?
--
John #1782
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Biologist fired for creationist beliefs, suit says |
13 Dec 2007 03:59:57 AM |
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On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 21:54:39 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <1m8vl3lubh7g1sskahkomsrlj8ut7m4elu@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 23:44:13 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <d63vl3tl9abfgldov8tdpas02mk2htu05s@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:18:11 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <7kesl3te9srfogosdlrd46tu6gl728tiee@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 22:33:52 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <ndopl3lk12d346auvm9376jrcdpaer8bhd@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 22:16:04 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <ckbnl3h4hm1h2r9rjn9aqv6rs4j6gmm5jv@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 23:49:22 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <3crkl3deaarjrsh4clqr77aurs02efdenb@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 00:56:20 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
He was hired to do biology. He doesn't want to do biology so
he
was
fired and now he wants to sue. What a fundyloon!
---
Biologist fired for beliefs, suit says
Woods Hole states creationist stance at odds with work
By Beth Daley, Globe Staff | December 7, 2007
The battle between science and creationism has reached the
prestigious
Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution, where a former
researcher
is
claiming he was fired because he doesn't believe in
evolution.
Nathaniel Abraham filed a lawsuit earlier this week in US
District
Court
in Boston saying that the Cape Cod research center dismissed
him
in
2004
because of his Christian belief that the Bible presents a
true
account
of human creation.
What?
Fired for wishing to teach superstious LIES in preference to
FACTS,
at
a premier science institute?
Whatever next?
Maybe he could get a job in a geology department somewhere and
teach
'flat earth' theory.
Tit for Tat, comes to mind.
Heh. If someone went to a fundy school like Liberty University
and
taught actual science, how long would he or she last?
2 feet.
They bury them shallow there?
What's left of them after the sharks have had their fill, yes.
I thought they might have been burned at the stake.
Mmmm... I could "go" a nice shark steak for dinner...
Now, where is my trident?
I'd join you, but I'm allergic to shark. I can eat any other kind of
fish or shellfish, but not shark. The last few times I had it, the shark
'escaped'.
I'll have yours then, mate!
Shark makes great spam, if you can it right.
The few times that I had it, I liked it, but it didn't like me.
Spam doesn't like you? ;)
The kind I delete or the kind I rarely buy?
The kind you spell in reverse.
.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Biologist fired for creationist beliefs, suit says |
14 Dec 2007 12:10:00 AM |
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In article <fk02m3du7nt993fmrcu4p8v2pssum420qf@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 21:54:39 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <1m8vl3lubh7g1sskahkomsrlj8ut7m4elu@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 23:44:13 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <d63vl3tl9abfgldov8tdpas02mk2htu05s@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:18:11 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <7kesl3te9srfogosdlrd46tu6gl728tiee@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 22:33:52 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <ndopl3lk12d346auvm9376jrcdpaer8bhd@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 22:16:04 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <ckbnl3h4hm1h2r9rjn9aqv6rs4j6gmm5jv@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 23:49:22 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <3crkl3deaarjrsh4clqr77aurs02efdenb@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 00:56:20 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
He was hired to do biology. He doesn't want to do biology
so
he
was
fired and now he wants to sue. What a fundyloon!
---
Biologist fired for beliefs, suit says
Woods Hole states creationist stance at odds with work
By Beth Daley, Globe Staff | December 7, 2007
The battle between science and creationism has reached the
prestigious
Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution, where a former
researcher
is
claiming he was fired because he doesn't believe in
evolution.
Nathaniel Abraham filed a lawsuit earlier this week in US
District
Court
in Boston saying that the Cape Cod research center
dismissed
him
in
2004
because of his Christian belief that the Bible presents a
true
account
of human creation.
What?
Fired for wishing to teach superstious LIES in preference
to
FACTS,
at
a premier science institute?
Whatever next?
Maybe he could get a job in a geology department somewhere
and
teach
'flat earth' theory.
Tit for Tat, comes to mind.
Heh. If someone went to a fundy school like Liberty
University
and
taught actual science, how long would he or she last?
2 feet.
They bury them shallow there?
What's left of them after the sharks have had their fill, yes.
I thought they might have been burned at the stake.
Mmmm... I could "go" a nice shark steak for dinner...
Now, where is my trident?
I'd join you, but I'm allergic to shark. I can eat any other kind of
fish or shellfish, but not shark. The last few times I had it, the
shark
'escaped'.
I'll have yours then, mate!
Shark makes great spam, if you can it right.
The few times that I had it, I liked it, but it didn't like me.
Spam doesn't like you? ;)
The kind I delete or the kind I rarely buy?
The kind you spell in reverse.
Maps?
--
John #1782
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Biologist fired for creationist beliefs, suit says |
14 Dec 2007 12:36:43 AM |
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On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:10:00 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <fk02m3du7nt993fmrcu4p8v2pssum420qf@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 21:54:39 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <1m8vl3lubh7g1sskahkomsrlj8ut7m4elu@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 23:44:13 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <d63vl3tl9abfgldov8tdpas02mk2htu05s@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:18:11 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <7kesl3te9srfogosdlrd46tu6gl728tiee@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 22:33:52 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <ndopl3lk12d346auvm9376jrcdpaer8bhd@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 22:16:04 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <ckbnl3h4hm1h2r9rjn9aqv6rs4j6gmm5jv@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 23:49:22 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <3crkl3deaarjrsh4clqr77aurs02efdenb@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 00:56:20 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
He was hired to do biology. He doesn't want to do biology
so
he
was
fired and now he wants to sue. What a fundyloon!
---
Biologist fired for beliefs, suit says
Woods Hole states creationist stance at odds with work
By Beth Daley, Globe Staff | December 7, 2007
The battle between science and creationism has reached the
prestigious
Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution, where a former
researcher
is
claiming he was fired because he doesn't believe in
evolution.
Nathaniel Abraham filed a lawsuit earlier this week in US
District
Court
in Boston saying that the Cape Cod research center
dismissed
him
in
2004
because of his Christian belief that the Bible presents a
true
account
of human creation.
What?
Fired for wishing to teach superstious LIES in preference
to
FACTS,
at
a premier science institute?
Whatever next?
Maybe he could get a job in a geology department somewhere
and
teach
'flat earth' theory.
Tit for Tat, comes to mind.
Heh. If someone went to a fundy school like Liberty
University
and
taught actual science, how long would he or she last?
2 feet.
They bury them shallow there?
What's left of them after the sharks have had their fill, yes.
I thought they might have been burned at the stake.
Mmmm... I could "go" a nice shark steak for dinner...
Now, where is my trident?
I'd join you, but I'm allergic to shark. I can eat any other kind of
fish or shellfish, but not shark. The last few times I had it, the
shark
'escaped'.
I'll have yours then, mate!
Shark makes great spam, if you can it right.
The few times that I had it, I liked it, but it didn't like me.
Spam doesn't like you? ;)
The kind I delete or the kind I rarely buy?
The kind you spell in reverse.
Maps?
Yes. Great for wrapping fish & chips!
.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Biologist fired for creationist beliefs, suit says |
15 Dec 2007 12:43:56 AM |
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In article <3394m39ua3bvch3n0friu24hijl557oi2g@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:10:00 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <fk02m3du7nt993fmrcu4p8v2pssum420qf@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 21:54:39 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <1m8vl3lubh7g1sskahkomsrlj8ut7m4elu@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 23:44:13 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <d63vl3tl9abfgldov8tdpas02mk2htu05s@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:18:11 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <7kesl3te9srfogosdlrd46tu6gl728tiee@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 22:33:52 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <ndopl3lk12d346auvm9376jrcdpaer8bhd@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 22:16:04 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <ckbnl3h4hm1h2r9rjn9aqv6rs4j6gmm5jv@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 23:49:22 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <3crkl3deaarjrsh4clqr77aurs02efdenb@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 00:56:20 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
He was hired to do biology. He doesn't want to do
biology
so
he
was
fired and now he wants to sue. What a fundyloon!
---
Biologist fired for beliefs, suit says
Woods Hole states creationist stance at odds with work
By Beth Daley, Globe Staff | December 7, 2007
The battle between science and creationism has reached
the
prestigious
Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution, where a former
researcher
is
claiming he was fired because he doesn't believe in
evolution.
Nathaniel Abraham filed a lawsuit earlier this week in
US
District
Court
in Boston saying that the Cape Cod research center
dismissed
him
in
2004
because of his Christian belief that the Bible presents
a
true
account
of human creation.
What?
Fired for wishing to teach superstious LIES in
preference
to
FACTS,
at
a premier science institute?
Whatever next?
Maybe he could get a job in a geology department somewhere
and
teach
'flat earth' theory.
Tit for Tat, comes to mind.
Heh. If someone went to a fundy school like Liberty
University
and
taught actual science, how long would he or she last?
2 feet.
They bury them shallow there?
What's left of them after the sharks have had their fill, yes.
I thought they might have been burned at the stake.
Mmmm... I could "go" a nice shark steak for dinner...
Now, where is my trident?
I'd join you, but I'm allergic to shark. I can eat any other kind
of
fish or shellfish, but not shark. The last few times I had it, the
shark
'escaped'.
I'll have yours then, mate!
Shark makes great spam, if you can it right.
The few times that I had it, I liked it, but it didn't like me.
Spam doesn't like you? ;)
The kind I delete or the kind I rarely buy?
The kind you spell in reverse.
Maps?
Yes. Great for wrapping fish & chips!
I use one of our non-newspapers for that.
--
John #1782
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11 Dec 2007 10:26:12 AM |
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Michael Gray wrote:
On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 00:56:20 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
He was hired to do biology. He doesn't want to do biology so he was
fired and now he wants to sue. What a fundyloon!
---
Biologist fired for beliefs, suit says
Woods Hole states creationist stance at odds with work
By Beth Daley, Globe Staff | December 7, 2007
The battle between science and creationism has reached the prestigious
Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution, where a former researcher is
claiming he was fired because he doesn't believe in evolution.
Nathaniel Abraham filed a lawsuit earlier this week in US District Court
in Boston saying that the Cape Cod research center dismissed him in 2004
because of his Christian belief that the Bible presents a true account
of human creation.
What?
Fired for wishing to teach superstious LIES in preference to FACTS, at
a premier science institute?
Whatever next?
not for teaching, but for refusing to do significant parts of the work
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| User: "Matt Silberstein" |
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| Title: Re: Biologist fired for creationist beliefs, suit says |
11 Dec 2007 12:39:48 PM |
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On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 11:26:12 -0500, in alt.atheism , Ash
<ash.amanic@virgin.net> in
<2NmdnT7oYPIvJ8PanZ2dnUVZ_uzinZ2d@comcast.com> wrote:
Michael Gray wrote:
On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 00:56:20 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
He was hired to do biology. He doesn't want to do biology so he was
fired and now he wants to sue. What a fundyloon!
---
Biologist fired for beliefs, suit says
Woods Hole states creationist stance at odds with work
By Beth Daley, Globe Staff | December 7, 2007
The battle between science and creationism has reached the prestigious
Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution, where a former researcher is
claiming he was fired because he doesn't believe in evolution.
Nathaniel Abraham filed a lawsuit earlier this week in US District Court
in Boston saying that the Cape Cod research center dismissed him in 2004
because of his Christian belief that the Bible presents a true account
of human creation.
What?
Fired for wishing to teach superstious LIES in preference to FACTS, at
a premier science institute?
Whatever next?
not for teaching, but for refusing to do significant parts of the work
Don't bother him with facts, he has truth and that is all that
matters.
--
Matt Silberstein
Do something today about the Darfur Genocide
http://www.beawitness.org
http://www.darfurgenocide.org
http://www.savedarfur.org
"Darfur: A Genocide We can Stop"
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On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 20:42:02 +1030, in alt.atheism , Michael Gray
<mikegray@newsguy.com> in <3crkl3deaarjrsh4clqr77aurs02efdenb@4ax.com>
wrote:
On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 00:56:20 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
He was hired to do biology. He doesn't want to do biology so he was
fired and now he wants to sue. What a fundyloon!
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Biologist fired for beliefs, suit says
Woods Hole states creationist stance at odds with work
By Beth Daley, Globe Staff | December 7, 2007
The battle between science and creationism has reached the prestigious
Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution, where a former researcher is
claiming he was fired because he doesn't believe in evolution.
Nathaniel Abraham filed a lawsuit earlier this week in US District Court
in Boston saying that the Cape Cod research center dismissed him in 2004
because of his Christian belief that the Bible presents a true account
of human creation.
What?
Fired for wishing to teach superstious LIES in preference to FACTS, at
a premier science institute?
Nope. Read the story next time.
Whatever next?
Tit for Tat, comes to mind.
Perhaps you mean eye for an eye. But that would expose your views.
--
Matt Silberstein
Do something today about the Darfur Genocide
http://www.beawitness.org
http://www.darfurgenocide.org
http://www.savedarfur.org
"Darfur: A Genocide We can Stop"
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| User: "Doc Smartass" |
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| Title: Re: Biologist fired for creationist beliefs, suit says |
08 Dec 2007 10:22:29 AM |
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johac <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in news:jhachmann-
C67676.00562008122007@news.giganews.com:
He was hired to do biology. He doesn't want to do biology so he was
fired and now he wants to sue. What a fundyloon!
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Biologist fired for beliefs, suit says
Woods Hole states creationist stance at odds with work
By Beth Daley, Globe Staff | December 7, 2007
The battle between science and creationism has reached the prestigious
Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution, where a former researcher is
claiming he was fired because he doesn't believe in evolution.
"I really liked science as a kid--except for the parts of it that I don't
like."
<snip>
Abraham, who is seeking $500,000 in compensation for a violation of his
civil rights, says in the suit that he lost his job as a postdoctoral
researcher in a biology lab shortly after he told his superior that he
did not accept evolution as scientific fact.
"It's not my fault I can't meet the basic employment requirements. I
blame my former boss."
<snip>
Abraham did not return a telephone call seeking comment. An Indian
citizen, he now works at Liberty University, a Christian university in
Lynchburg, Va., founded by the Rev. Jerry Falwell.
Ah, that bastion of scientific education. He must be working on the
Falwell Resurrection Project, using cristain scientific techniques to
bring the Dead One back:
"Oh, lard, we beseech thee, bring him back." *pause* "Please?"
<snip>
http://tinyurl.com/287an3
--
Doc Smartass, BAAWA Knight of Heckling
aa # 1939
No one can terrorize a whole nation, unless we are all his accomplices.
--Edward R. Murrow
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Biologist fired for creationist beliefs, suit says |
09 Dec 2007 01:43:46 AM |
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In article <Xns9A006988EE6CBaskifyouwantit@216.77.188.18>,
Doc Smartass <gekido@astroskivviesboymail.com> wrote:
johac <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in news:jhachmann-
C67676.00562008122007@news.giganews.com:
He was hired to do biology. He doesn't want to do biology so he was
fired and now he wants to sue. What a fundyloon!
---
Biologist fired for beliefs, suit says
Woods Hole states creationist stance at odds with work
By Beth Daley, Globe Staff | December 7, 2007
The battle between science and creationism has reached the prestigious
Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution, where a former researcher is
claiming he was fired because he doesn't believe in evolution.
"I really liked science as a kid--except for the parts of it that I don't
like."
And the parts I don't understand so they must be wrong.
<snip>
Abraham, who is seeking $500,000 in compensation for a violation of his
civil rights, says in the suit that he lost his job as a postdoctoral
researcher in a biology lab shortly after he told his superior that he
did not accept evolution as scientific fact.
"It's not my fault I can't meet the basic employment requirements. I
blame my former boss."
"He had some nerve! He actually wanted me to do the job that I was hired
to do."
<snip>
Abraham did not return a telephone call seeking comment. An Indian
citizen, he now works at Liberty University, a Christian university in
Lynchburg, Va., founded by the Rev. Jerry Falwell.
Ah, that bastion of scientific education. He must be working on the
Falwell Resurrection Project, using cristain scientific techniques to
bring the Dead One back:
"Oh, lard, we beseech thee, bring him back." *pause* "Please?"
LOL!
<snip>
http://tinyurl.com/287an3
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John #1782
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| User: "chatnoir" |
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| Title: Re: Biologist fired for creationist beliefs, suit says |
10 Dec 2007 09:01:46 PM |
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On Dec 8, 9:22 am, Doc Smartass <gek...@astroskivviesboymail.com>
wrote:
johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in news:jhachmann-
C67676.00562008122...@news.giganews.com:
He was hired to do biology. He doesn't want to do biology so he was
fired and now he wants to sue. What a fundyloon!
---
Biologist fired for beliefs, suit says
Woods Hole states creationist stance at odds with work
By Beth Daley, Globe Staff | December 7, 2007
The battle between science and creationism has reached the prestigious
Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution, where a former researcher is
claiming he was fired because he doesn't believe in evolution.
"I really liked science as a kid--except for the parts of it that I don't
like."
<snip>
Abraham, who is seeking $500,000 in compensation for a violation of his
civil rights, says in the suit that he lost his job as a postdoctoral
researcher in a biology lab shortly after he told his superior that he
did not accept evolution as scientific fact.
"It's not my fault I can't meet the basic employment requirements. I
blame my former boss."
This is kind of like Ron Paul wanting to be president even though he
doesn't believe in government.
http://tinyurl.com/2n48kk
douchebags, always with the suing
Christian Biologist Fired For General Hatred of Biology
The culture wars (War on Cultures?) took an aquatic turn today as a
Christian marine biologist sued his former employer, who the biologist
claims fired him for refusing to accept evolution. Nathaniel Abraham,
like most good scientists, is a Creationist, and as Reuters tells us,
"Creationists such as Abraham believe God made the world in six days,
as the Bible's Book of Genesis says."
Nathaniel Abraham, a "zebrafish specialist," said in a lawsuit filed
Monday against Massachusetts' Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution
that "he was fired in 2004 because he would not accept evolution as
scientific fact," and now he's seeking 500,000 Jesus Dollars.
Abraham, when not staring at zebrafish (see photo), likes to spend his
time being a dumbshit:
The Massachusetts Commission Against Discrimination dismissed the case
this year, saying Abraham's request not to work on evolutionary
aspects of research would be difficult for Woods Hole because its work
is based on evolutionary theories. Abraham said this condition was
never spelled out in the advertisement for the job and that his
dismissal led to severe economic losses, an injured reputation,
emotional pain and suffering and mental anguish.
This is kind of like Ron Paul wanting to be president even though he
doesn't believe in government.
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