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"J Young" |
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03 Apr 2005 05:23:00 AM |
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Bishop defends anti-gay remarks |
This is a man who doesn't mince his words. He is correct that he is
owed an apology.
http://calgary.cbc.ca/regional/servlet/View?filename=ca-human-rights-bishop20050331
CALGARY - Bishop Fred Henry is refusing to take back comments he made
comparing homosexuality to prostitution and adultery, after two people
lodged human rights complaints against him.
"I stand by the letter, I wouldn't change one comma," the Calgary
Catholic bishop said Wednesday, adding he has the right of free speech
to express his opinion on the subject. "Why should I apologize? I think
I'm owed an apology for putting me through this rigmarole of
harassment, intimidation and attempt to silence me."
In January, in a letter read to congregations in southern Alberta,
Henry called on the government to suppress homosexual and other
behaviour he considers harmful to the family.
"Since homosexuality, adultery, prostitution and pornography undermine
the foundations of the family, the basis of society, then the state
must use its coercive power to proscribe or curtail them in the
interests of the common good," Henry said in the letter.
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| User: "Loose Cannon" |
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| Title: Re: Bishop defends anti-gay remarks |
03 Apr 2005 04:33:00 PM |
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Cowardly troll "J IBen Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> engaged in the Usenet
equivalent of ringing the doorbell and running off in message wrote in
message
news:1112505780.788169.234280@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
This is a man who doesn't mince his words. He is correct that he is
owed an apology.
One bigot coming to the defense of another.
How...not surprising.
Had a change of heart from when you wrote this, Schitzotroll?:
"does it not seem strange that so many so-called christians, jews, and
muslims, seem to spend an inordinate amount of time and energy
thinking about gay people and the things that they do in their
bedrooms? isn't it also strange that the ones most vocal in their
opposition to a gay life-style almost always inevitably turn out to be
closet cases themselves. a true person of God should be spending more
time leading a good, decent life instead of thinking[ or perhaps
fantasizing ] about what two gay men are doing in their bedrooms.
you'll notice they rarely have a problem with lesbians."
From: (Jon Young)
Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian
Subject: a thought to ponder
Date: 13 Oct 2003 08:12:58 -0700
Message-ID: <567f3dc3.0310130712.bf31ff9@posting.google.com>
LC~ IBen's an equal opportunity bigot. He hates everyone.
"I have never written anything containing hate. The crap attributed to
me is nothing but garbage authored by others."
From: "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>, cowardly lyin'.
Message-ID: <1104815483.503677.151100@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>
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| User: "Riain Barton/ריעין ברתון" |
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| Title: Re: Bishop defends anti-gay remarks |
04 Apr 2005 02:46:06 AM |
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All Jerk-Off knows is to spread hate!
"Loose Cannon" <looseain't@this.com> wrote in message
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: Cowardly troll "J IBen Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> engaged in the
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: news:1112505780.788169.234280@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
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: > This is a man who doesn't mince his words. He is correct that he is
: > owed an apology.
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: One bigot coming to the defense of another.
: How...not surprising.
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: Had a change of heart from when you wrote this, Schitzotroll?:
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: "does it not seem strange that so many so-called christians, jews, and
: muslims, seem to spend an inordinate amount of time and energy
: thinking about gay people and the things that they do in their
: bedrooms? isn't it also strange that the ones most vocal in their
: opposition to a gay life-style almost always inevitably turn out to be
: closet cases themselves. a true person of God should be spending more
: time leading a good, decent life instead of thinking[ or perhaps
: fantasizing ] about what two gay men are doing in their bedrooms.
: you'll notice they rarely have a problem with lesbians."
: From: (Jon Young)
: Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian
: Subject: a thought to ponder
: Date: 13 Oct 2003 08:12:58 -0700
: Message-ID: <567f3dc3.0310130712.bf31ff9@posting.google.com>
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: LC~ IBen's an equal opportunity bigot. He hates everyone.
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: "I have never written anything containing hate. The crap attributed to
: me is nothing but garbage authored by others."
: From: "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>, cowardly lyin'.
: Message-ID: <1104815483.503677.151100@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>
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| User: "No One" |
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03 Apr 2005 06:35:56 AM |
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
This is a man who doesn't mince his words. He is correct that he is
owed an apology.
Wrong.
CALGARY - Bishop Fred Henry is refusing to take back comments he made
comparing homosexuality to prostitution and adultery, after two people
lodged human rights complaints against him.
"I stand by the letter, I wouldn't change one comma," the Calgary
Catholic bishop said Wednesday, adding he has the right of free speech
to express his opinion on the subject. "Why should I apologize? I think
I'm owed an apology for putting me through this rigmarole of
harassment, intimidation and attempt to silence me."
If that is the standard, then the rest of us should be equally free to
call Christians a group of witch burners, scam artists, fonicators
(remember the TV preacher scandals), child molesters (the Catholic
priest problem), torturers (remember the Spanish Inquisition), etc.
Is that the type of dialog you people want?
You should keep in mind that prostitution and adultery are small
potatoes compared to the crimes organized religions have committed
against humanity in the past.
BTW, if a Catholic bishop is behaving this way, he should be
reprimanded by his church to the extend that he is acting in any
official capacity. Failure to issue such a reprimand will mean it is
legitimately open season on Catholics regarding what people say in
public about their religion.
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| User: "L. Michael Roberts" |
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| Title: Re: Bishop defends anti-gay remarks |
03 Apr 2005 04:25:59 PM |
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No One wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
This is a man who doesn't mince his words. He is correct that he is
owed an apology.
Wrong.
CALGARY - Bishop Fred Henry is refusing to take back comments he made
comparing homosexuality to prostitution and adultery, after two people
lodged human rights complaints against him.
"I stand by the letter, I wouldn't change one comma," the Calgary
Catholic bishop said Wednesday, adding he has the right of free speech
to express his opinion on the subject. "Why should I apologize? I think
I'm owed an apology for putting me through this rigmarole of
harassment, intimidation and attempt to silence me."
If that is the standard, then the rest of us should be equally free to
call Christians a group of witch burners, scam artists, fonicators
(remember the TV preacher scandals), child molesters (the Catholic
priest problem), torturers (remember the Spanish Inquisition), etc.
Is that the type of dialog you people want?
You should keep in mind that prostitution and adultery are small
potatoes compared to the crimes organized religions have committed
against humanity in the past.
BTW, if a Catholic bishop is behaving this way, he should be
reprimanded by his church to the extend that he is acting in any
official capacity. Failure to issue such a reprimand will mean it is
legitimately open season on Catholics regarding what people say in
public about their religion.
The real problem is that the bishop advocated using the power of the
state to impose his chosen religious beliefs on all of the citizens of
Canada contrary to S2[a] of The Charter. I doubt that anyone can expect
an apology for advocating an illegal act!
--
+==================== L. Michael Roberts ======================+
This represents my personal opinion and NOT Company policy
Goderich, Ont, Canada. To reply, post a request for my valid E-mail
"Life is a sexually transmitted, terminal, condition"
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| User: "Secret Squirrel" |
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| Title: Re: Bishop defends anti-gay remarks |
04 Apr 2005 12:10:47 AM |
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in
news:1112505780.788169.234280@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
This is a man who doesn't mince his words. He is correct
that he is owed an apology.
http://calgary.cbc.ca/regional/servlet/View?filename=ca-huma
n-rights-bishop20050331
CALGARY - Bishop Fred Henry is refusing to take back
comments he made comparing homosexuality to prostitution
and adultery, after two people lodged human rights
complaints against him.
"Since homosexuality, adultery, prostitution and
pornography undermine the foundations of the family,
Hmmm....you know, they only allow three strikes in baseball
before you're out. Henry managed to sneak in four somehow.
[The answer is, kids, about "undermining the foundations of
the family", is 1) definitely no; 2) definitely no (especially
if he defines polygamy as "adultery", even if not, some
cultures did allow extramaritial affairs); 3) ditto, for
same reasons as #2, prostitution is just sex with money
exchanging hands; 4) no.]
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basis of society, then the state must use its coercive
power to proscribe or curtail them in the interests of the
common good," Henry said in the letter.
Well, at least he's upfront about admitting that conservatives
are eager to use the coercive power of the state, about being
big-government fans. Most conservatives are coy about that.
Secret Squirrel
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| User: "GlennGlenn" |
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03 Apr 2005 05:57:38 AM |
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In article <1112505780.788169.234280@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, J
Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
This is a man who doesn't mince his words. He is correct that he is
owed an apology.
Sorry, but by publicly making such controversial (and stupid) remarks,
he is opening himself up for such criticism.
Asking for an apology. What a wuss.
--
GlennGlenn -- aa#825 --
I am not famous, I am notorious. And if I am rich, it is because I have taken
my wages in people.
‹ Quentin Crisp
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| User: "SMITH29" |
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| Title: Re: Bishop defends anti-gay remarks |
03 Apr 2005 08:15:00 PM |
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J Young wrote:
This is a man who doesn't mince his words. He is correct that he is
owed an apology.
http://calgary.cbc.ca/regional/servlet/View?filename=ca-human-rights-bishop20050331
CALGARY - Bishop Fred Henry is refusing to take back comments he made
comparing homosexuality to prostitution and adultery, after two people
lodged human rights complaints against him.
"I stand by the letter, I wouldn't change one comma," the Calgary
Catholic bishop said Wednesday, adding he has the right of free speech
to express his opinion on the subject. "Why should I apologize? I think
I'm owed an apology for putting me through this rigmarole of
harassment, intimidation and attempt to silence me."
In January, in a letter read to congregations in southern Alberta,
Henry called on the government to suppress homosexual and other
behaviour he considers harmful to the family.
"Since homosexuality, adultery, prostitution and pornography undermine
the foundations of the family, the basis of society, then the state
must use its coercive power to proscribe or curtail them in the
interests of the common good," Henry said in the letter.
xxxx
THe Bishop is right and Canada needs to clean up it's act by
state intervention in these vile acts. The USA should close
it's borders until Canada has this corrected.
29
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| User: "L. Michael Roberts" |
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04 Apr 2005 03:49:51 AM |
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SMITH29 wrote:
J Young wrote:
<snip>
THe Bishop is right and Canada needs to clean up it's act by state
intervention in these vile acts. The USA should close it's borders until
Canada has this corrected.
Go right ahead... I am sure you can do without all of the gas, oil,
water, lumber, telecommunications technology and all of the other things
we export to the USA.
--
+==================== L. Michael Roberts ======================+
This represents my personal opinion and NOT Company policy
Goderich, Ont, Canada. To reply, post a request for my valid E-mail
"Life is a sexually transmitted, terminal, condition"
+================================================================+
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| User: "SMITH29" |
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04 Apr 2005 05:19:35 AM |
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L. Michael Roberts wrote:
SMITH29 wrote:
J Young wrote:
<snip>
THe Bishop is right and Canada needs to clean up it's act by state
intervention in these vile acts. The USA should close it's borders
until Canada has this corrected.
Go right ahead... I am sure you can do without all of the gas, oil,
water, lumber, telecommunications technology and all of the other things
we export to the USA.
xxxx
No problem. We need to drill Florida anyway and also get our
hydrogen retro fit program going.
And I'm sure you blokes won't miss our rotten money either.
Your prime minister says no to our missile defense program
so we better get used to not having you people around
anyway. Lil Kim will use you guys for target practice if
China don't.
THE29
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| User: "Riain Barton/ריעין ברתון" |
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04 Apr 2005 05:48:15 AM |
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Another example of why the world hates so many Americans...
"SMITH29" <smith29@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:pZidnb4Ha_37U83fRVn-tg@comcast.com...
: L. Michael Roberts wrote:
: >
: > SMITH29 wrote:
: >
: >> J Young wrote:
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: > <snip>
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: >> THe Bishop is right and Canada needs to clean up it's act by state
: >> intervention in these vile acts. The USA should close it's borders
: >> until Canada has this corrected.
: >
: >
: > Go right ahead... I am sure you can do without all of the gas,
oil,
: > water, lumber, telecommunications technology and all of the other
things
: > we export to the USA.
: >
: xxxx
: No problem. We need to drill Florida anyway and also get our
: hydrogen retro fit program going.
: And I'm sure you blokes won't miss our rotten money either.
: Your prime minister says no to our missile defense program
: so we better get used to not having you people around
: anyway. Lil Kim will use you guys for target practice if
: China don't.
:
: THE29
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| User: "SMITH29" |
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04 Apr 2005 08:16:30 AM |
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Riain Barton/ריעין ברתון wrote:
Another example of why the world hates so many Americans...
xxxx
Well Shucks!!! We can't please everyone now can we?
And to tell you the truth, I could give a damn about the
thieves and liars in the UN namely France, Germany, Russia
and China to name a few.
The29
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| User: "Mark Levitski" |
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04 Apr 2005 05:19:31 AM |
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Telecom technology? Nortel is no better than any other Euro?asian/US
company, it's th eproximity and cheapness that is attractive so long as you
dont make nonsensen statements regarding our inability "to do without
canada"
The importance of Canda is world economy is less than my dog's importance to
local pigfarm
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| User: "Mark Levitski" |
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04 Apr 2005 05:17:30 AM |
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You export?? MWAHAHAHAHAHA
The entire Canadian economy is a narrow strip along US border depending 95%
on USA. We CAN live without you, but you CANNOT live without us. Stop the
*****, you know Canada is nothing but extension of United States. DOnt
make an enemy from your best friend and admit the fact, there's no
significan Canadian business that wouldn't suffer if our historic relations
were to be broken but on our side what do we stand to lose?
Mapple syrup and hockey players? What *****. Everything you sell we can
get elsewhere or domestically, except we prefer to explit other peoples
resources before tappinginto our own. It would be in our best interest to
integrate into one United NorthAmerican States. we both stand on th
eshoulders of Western European civilization, and I dont see how
Homosexuality fits in.
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| User: "Michelle Malkin" |
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| Title: Re: Bishop defends anti-gay remarks |
04 Apr 2005 08:49:10 AM |
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"Mark Levitski" <MetalBladeSPAMNOMORE@SPAMNOMOREprodigy.net> wrote in
message news:K544e.29063$hU7.25482@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com...
You export?? MWAHAHAHAHAHA
The entire Canadian economy is a narrow strip along US border depending
95%
on USA. We CAN live without you, but you CANNOT live without us. Stop
the
*****, you know Canada is nothing but extension of United States. DOnt
make an enemy from your best friend and admit the fact, there's no
significan Canadian business that wouldn't suffer if our historic
relations
were to be broken but on our side what do we stand to lose?
Mapple syrup and hockey players? What *****. Everything you sell we
can
get elsewhere or domestically, except we prefer to explit other peoples
resources before tappinginto our own. It would be in our best interest to
integrate into one United NorthAmerican States. we both stand on th
eshoulders of Western European civilization, and I dont see how
Homosexuality fits in.
Oh, grow up. Canada and the US have been friends for nearly
two centuries and its going to stay that way.
And, all the people from other countries knocking the US can
go climb a tree, too. We have a lousy squatter in the White House
who got there by having his people destroy voters registrations
and voting ballots. He wouldn't be there if not for this. The
majority of Americans voted against him both times. He's a
bigger crook than Nixon ever was, and I'm waiting for the day
this catches up to the treasonous *****. Until then, you
anti-American idiots can just shut the hell up.
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alt.atheism atheist/agnostic list name collector
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| User: "Sanders Kaufman" |
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04 Apr 2005 06:34:10 PM |
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"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:p--dnVXmxPXnYs3fRVn-3A@comcast.com...
"Mark Levitski" <MetalBladeSPAMNOMORE@SPAMNOMOREprodigy.net> wrote in
It would be in our best interest to
integrate into one United NorthAmerican States. we both stand on th
eshoulders of Western European civilization, and I dont see how
Homosexuality fits in.
Oh, grow up. Canada and the US have been friends for nearly
two centuries and its going to stay that way.
Over the last 5 years, that friendship has been tortured.
As our militant religious freaks gain more power, Canada will be playing
France to our Germany.
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| User: "Riain Barton/ריעין ברתון" |
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04 Apr 2005 05:47:08 AM |
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You obviously do NOT see many things, perhaps it is your arrogance that
blinds you?
"Mark Levitski" <MetalBladeSPAMNOMORE@SPAMNOMOREprodigy.net> wrote in
message news:K544e.29063$hU7.25482@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com...
: You export?? MWAHAHAHAHAHA
: The entire Canadian economy is a narrow strip along US border
depending 95%
: on USA. We CAN live without you, but you CANNOT live without us.
Stop the
: *****, you know Canada is nothing but extension of United States.
DOnt
: make an enemy from your best friend and admit the fact, there's no
: significan Canadian business that wouldn't suffer if our historic
relations
: were to be broken but on our side what do we stand to lose?
: Mapple syrup and hockey players? What *****. Everything you sell
we can
: get elsewhere or domestically, except we prefer to explit other
peoples
: resources before tappinginto our own. It would be in our best
interest to
: integrate into one United NorthAmerican States. we both stand on th
: eshoulders of Western European civilization, and I dont see how
: Homosexuality fits in.
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| User: "L. Michael Roberts" |
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03 Apr 2005 04:23:18 PM |
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J Young wrote:
This is a man who doesn't mince his words. He is correct that he is
owed an apology.
Nope! No apology will be provided for someone who advocates using the
power of the state to implement his or her chosen religious
beliefs/dogmas contrary to The Charter.
http://calgary.cbc.ca/regional/servlet/View?filename=ca-human-rights-bishop20050331
<snip>
"Since homosexuality, adultery, prostitution and pornography undermine
the foundations of the family, the basis of society, then
*the state must use its coercive power*
to proscribe or curtail them
Emphasis added to show where the Bishop attempted to have his chosen
dogma become the law contrary to the law of the land as set forth in The
Charter.
<snip>
--
+==================== L. Michael Roberts ======================+
This represents my personal opinion and NOT Company policy
Goderich, Ont, Canada. To reply, post a request for my valid E-mail
"Life is a sexually transmitted, terminal, condition"
+================================================================+
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| User: "The Arch Atheist" |
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| Title: Re: Bishop defends anti-gay remarks |
03 Apr 2005 06:10:47 AM |
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On 2 Apr 2005 21:23:00 -0800, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
CALGARY - Bishop Fred Henry is refusing to take back comments he made
comparing homosexuality to prostitution and adultery, after two people
lodged human rights complaints against him.
lmao, and HE wants an apology? What a fucking wanker. And what about
all the lives HE'S ruined?
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