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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "NeoVeritas"
Date: 16 Nov 2006 09:36:30 PM
Object: Bishops strategize on wayward Catholics
Annual conference to deal with marriage, contraception, homosexuality
BALTIMORE - America's Roman Catholic bishops are focusing on the many
Catholics who misunderstand or disregard church teaching, instructing
them on beliefs about homosexuality, marriage, contraception and Holy
Communion.
In a national meeting to start Monday in Baltimore, the bishops were to
consider new guidelines on ministry to gay parishioners, explaining the
theological underpinnings of the Catholic mandate that marriage must be
limited to one man and one woman.
The prelates were also to take up documents on worthiness for receiving
Communion and on the church's widely ignored ban on artificial
contraception. Surveys have found that only about 4 percent of Catholic
married couples of childbearing age use natural birth control,
according to the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops.
The attention to core teachings comes as the 64 million-member American
church faces a shortage of priests, low rates of Mass attendance and a
massive influx of Hispanic immigrants.
Diocesan budgets are stretched thin. Bishops nationwide have been
closing older parishes that are too expensive to maintain, while trying
to cover rising costs for operating their schools. And several dioceses
are still negotiating settlements in the millions of dollars over
claims of clergy xxx abuse. The cases of three of the four dioceses
that have sought bankruptcy protection from molestation claims remain
unresolved.
To adjust these pressures, the bishops this week will consider
restructuring the conference's Washington headquarters. Under the
proposal, American dioceses would send less money to the conference,
which would in turn cut jobs and committees.
Bishops have complained for years that the funds they turn over for
conference work are badly needed in their home dioceses. Others
consider the large conference staff unnecessary, a hangover from its
heyday in the early 1980s when revered Chicago Cardinal Joseph
Bernardin was guiding conference work and the prelates undertook such
ambitious projects as the pastoral letter on nuclear war called "The
Challenge of Peace."
The bishops have proposed a new set of priorities for their streamlined
conference through 2011, including an initiative supporting marriage,
increasing the number of candidates for the priesthood and improving
education for Catholics on church teaching.
The meeting runs through Thursday, but the bishops have decided to
conduct more business than usual behind closed doors. This week, public
sessions will end Tuesday. In previous years, the conference only held
a half-day executive session at its fall meeting, but a spokeswoman
said the extra time was needed for "prayer and reflection."
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15697161/
.

User: "ACE of SPADES"

Title: Re: Bishops strategize on wayward Catholics 16 Nov 2006 10:12:11 PM
"NeoVeritas" <geister@mailinator.com> wrote in message
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No one gives a ***** Antonio........... snip!!!!!!!!!!!!
What they say about the above sex crazed bi sexual stalker and troll
obsessed with Carol's husband and the porn Antonio sent him.
Jabriol aka 1000 namess is the homocidal net-stalking Jehovahs Witness
Antonio L Santana.
What they say about this stalker and troll.
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
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On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 08:20:22 +0100, "¬Saba*Gracile¬"
<veronisc@frisurf.no> wrote:

Sometimes she tries to hunt down truth, other times it gets to painful.
Classic JW problemos.


Other times, Jabbers just loses the tiny thread of a hold on reality
that he pretends to have.

Raped any good daughters lately, Jabs?

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"Michael Gray" <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in message
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On 15 Nov 2006 15:09:44 -0800, "Shadow" <vorlon359@gmail.com> wrote:
- Refer: <1163632184.222227.133500@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>


http://www.watchtower.org/e/kn37/article_01.htm


***** Jabriol.
Murdered anyone lately?

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"Geoff" <geoff@nospam.com> wrote in message
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"Nekojin" <ztradi@gmail.com> wrote in message
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but why would that concern you, Jabbers? You're as
Christian as bin Laden, and twice as sociopathic.


Bin Ladden is a Christian?


Are you that fucking stupid?

*whoooooooooooooooooooooosh*

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"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
news:b1jil25r2sgmch3q5g0soeqh8p1bbas5d6@4ax.com...

On 13 Nov 2006 14:33:22 -0800, "LightHawk" JABRIOL <JhemHaddar@gmail.com>
wrote:

Hence per atheism nothing is Bad. No Morals needed. Makes ya feel
better no doubt.


Only if, like you, one has no morality.

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"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
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On Sun, 05 Nov 2006 11:02:52 -0500, Darrell Stec

Jabbers? Think? I'd nominate this for Atheist Joke of the Month, if
there were such a thing.

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"John Baker" <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote in message
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On 5 Nov 2006 05:30:31 -0800, "Lieken" <darth.gantz@gmail.com> wrote:

Carolyn Gulley wants all JW's Killed--read it here!

Hell, I'll go along with her on that one,
Jabbers. Especially if we
start with you.

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"Gilbertus Albans" <primemenstat@world.net> wrote in message
news:5ey3h.768$Es5.604@trnddc07...

On 5 Nov 2006 05:32:47 -0800, "Lieken" <darth.gantz@gmail.com> wrote:
Aside from the fact that you'd be 16 when the war was over.


Yes of course Hitler youths were all over 18. Lieken (JABRIOL) you are a
Dumbass.

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"John Baker" <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote in message
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On 5 Nov 2006 11:08:39 -0800, "Lieken" <darth.gantz@gmail.com> wrote:


John Baker wrote:

On 5 Nov 2006 05:30:31 -0800, "Lieken" <darth.gantz@gmail.com> wrote:

Hell, I'll go along with her on that one, Jabbers. Especially if we
start with you.


You can try...


Oh, I assure you, Jabbers, I'm more than capable of ending your
miserable, pointless existence. With or without a weapon.

I gather then you agree certain groups of people don't
deserve to live.


No. But I do agree that certain *individuals* don't deserve to live.

Don't be upset with radical muslims when they kill americans. They
think as you, Al Klein and Carolyn Gulley.


Non-sequitur.


Tell me, Jabbers. Do you honestly think *anybody* takes you seriously?
Do you really think *anyone* gives a ***** what you think about
*anything?*

Free clue, sonny boy. You're a laughing stock.

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"Douglas Berry" <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
news:219lk2puglfs73bvinsptfdifq5lmic00o@4ax.com...

On 2 Nov 2006 08:50:16 -0800 "Jabriol" <jabriolusenet@gmail.com> said
the following in alt.atheism and I was immediately reminded of 1,000
Chinchillas singing Handel's "Messiah" for some reason...

You reposted this message 44 times in three different groups last
nig,t.


You keep changing accounts. *****.

Here's a clue: nobody cares.
You could die tonight and you would not
be mourned.

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"¬Saba*Gracile¬" <veronisc@frisurf.no> wrote in message
news:GbudnXb7Xtij3rfYnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@telenor.com...

"Spider-Mek-359" Antonio L Santana/jabriol<darth.gantz@gmail.com> skrev i
melding
news:1160357419.591430.251190@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

¬Saba*Gracile¬ wrote:

fucking psychopath..

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"Michael Gray" <fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in message
news:r7arj2tf298uctg26vf25tj75v6om79o8u@4ax.com...


Jabriol hates everyone.
Period.
Including his nasty little self.

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"Demon Lord of Confusion" <verwarring@verwirren.confused> wrote in message
news:pan.2006.10.21.23.57.39.349790@verwirren.confused...

On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 14:11:32 -0700, Lieken attempted to confuse the issue
further by squeaking:

Off tpoic ... You posted this post 4 times on this thread, using two
socks This make you a kook.


Then again, Santana, you're not exactly eligible to vote on the next
usenet kooks awards ballot yourself.

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"Demon Lord of Confusion" <verwarring@verwirren.confused> wrote in message
news:pan.2006.10.23.10.53.40.181377@verwirren.confused...

On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 02:33:40 -0700, Nekojin attempted to confuse the issue
further by squeaking:

Carol feigns a Plonk, the sign of a kook. Al


Well, you gotta admit, plonking someone who morphs more often than HIV
Steve, such as yourself, Santana, is more than a tad difficult.

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"John Baker" <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote in message
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On 25 Oct 2006 06:51:39 -0700, "BluePendragon" <JhemHaddar@gmail.com>
wrote:

Shut the hell up, Jabbers.

<PLONK!>

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"Jehovah's witnesses need to have their throats slit"
<user13@heathens.org.uk> wrote in message
news:1161369714.935073.231940@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...


Altitude wrote:

http://www.mithrilstar.org/newssamhain04.htm


FOAD, Jabbertroll

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid>
Newsgroups:
alt.religion.jehovahs-witn,alt.atheism,alt.biology,alt.talk.creationism
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 10:40 PM
Subject: Re: Evolution in action!

On 20 Oct 2006 18:45:34 -0700, "Nekojin" <ztradi@gmail.com> wrote:

Would that be evolution working backwards, Jabbers, to produce you
from a human couple? See? Speciation DOES happen.

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"John Baker" <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote in message
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On 18 Oct 2006 19:03:27 -0700, "ShallowFalconGreen"
<geister@mailinator.com> wrote:

Bye bye, Jabbers.

<re-re-re-re-re PLONK!>

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"Lucifer" <wyrdology@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1159571489.892587.43430@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...

Piltdown man was a real thorn in the side of evolution, it was the
anomaly that undermined the theory. Evolutionary science benefited from
it's debunking. We have Lucy etc for real missing links (as well as
Jabriol)

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"Barpseed Beta Version 3.0" <Barspeed@tesco.net> wrote in message
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Antonio drives an old rusty mini cooper and offers candy to young boys.

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"John Baker" <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote in message
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On 14 Aug 2006 17:50:21 -0700, "BullDozer" <geister@mailinator.com>
wrote: (BS snipped)

***** off and die, Jabbers.

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"Michael Gray" <fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in message
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<Ilumantius@Iknowmore.net>JABRIOL wrote: snip bs

Anyone who trusts jabriol to tell the truth is clinically brain-dead.
"Ilumantius@Iknowmore.net" gets added to the bulging killfile reserved
for this criminally insane fuckwit.

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"Christopher A. Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
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On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 11:23:31 GMT, JaBrioL <Jabriol@mailinator.com>
wrote:

And many others, influenced by evolution, turn to atheism and
agnosticism. Do you identify with any of these people and how they feel
about religion?


*****, Jabriol. Yet again.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid>
Newsgroups:
alt.religion.jehovahs-witn,alt.atheism,alt.religion.islam,alt.free.newsserve
rs
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 10:41 PM
Subject: Re: The historical Jesus - TROLL ALERT!!!!!!!!

On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 20:52:10 -0500, Lá~ Wáná <gobee@invar.net> wrote:

jabbers had another brain seazure.


Impossible. Empty skull seizure I'd buy, but what doesn't exist can't
seize.

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"John Baker" <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote in message
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On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 11:13:00 GMT, Blockade JABRIOL/Antonio L
Santana/Gantz/Blak<slash@neck.net> wrote:


As you can see Carol really doesn't bring any sort of intelligence to
any thread.


STFU, Jabbers.

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"FaceDancer" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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Jabriol-Green wrote:
She doesn't know.

Well then. She is a moron. Oh by the way,

Jabriol; you are still a moron.
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Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in message
news:4j68quF6faaqU1@individual.net...


"JaBrioL" <Jabriol@mailinator.com> wrote in message
news:TKlzg.6208$oz.2770@trnddc07...


turn to atheism and agnosticism.

Do you identify with any of these people and how they feel about
religion?


No, Jabbers, I don't.

Now, get back into my killfile for the ten millionth freaking time :P
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"cactus" <bm1@nonespam.com> wrote in message
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johac wrote:

In article <44cd6e1d$0$15895$8f2e0ebb@news.shared-secrets.com>,
Thanks for the update. Jabbers is well known in these parts. Forging has
become all too. common. It's hard to imagine that anyone could be so
desperate for attention.


He's right up (or down) with "Pastor" Frank, "Richard Dawkins" and maybe
even Pastor Dave. We've definitely got our share. Must be the topics...

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"Michael Gray" <fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in message
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If you really want to add value while you are here on earth, go and
convince jabriol to commit suicide or something.

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"TimK" <timkozz@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message
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"HeatWave" <HeatWave@mailinator.com> wrote in message
news:4atDg.5489$zc2.4299@trnddc06...

Learn some math.


You fucking idiot, that doesn't even make sense.

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"Enkidu" <ox_qljjor@trashmail.net> wrote in message
news:Xns9834572E6723E255229@130.133.1.4...

Jabriol-Violet <Jabriol-Violet@mailinator.com> wrote in
news:WyXKg.1652$m36.448@trnddc02:

your posting history claims you have been posting just from sept.
unless you are lying.


Says the nym-shifting sack of *****.

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"John Baker" <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote in message
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On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 01:29:22 GMT,

wrote:

Go play on the Interstate, Jabbers.

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"John Baker" <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote in message
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I think he probably took the nym from the old Pete Townsend song 'Face
Dances', which, like his earlier 'Eminence Front', is about people who
pretend to be something they're not, in which case a 'FaceDancer'
would be a liar and/or a pretentious twit. A fitting nym for Jabbers.
<G>

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"Michael Gray" <fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in message
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Jesus H. Christ on a crutch!
Who do you have do pay/screw to get that terminal
fuckwit Jabbers to ignore you? What's the secret?

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"Michael Gray" <fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in message
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On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 09:41:38 GMT, JabriolJade
<JabriolJade@mailinator.com> wrote:

That simple. Just believe that everyone that posts with thunderbird is
Jabriol... ***** them off... Should be easy.


It is even wimpler than that, Pooh-Jabber.
Just plonk everyone who displays a negative IQ combined with a hatred
of everyone and everything and a sociopathic streak several
light-years wide.

That is a sure-fire method of blocking you, and ONLY you.
Now *****.
Again.

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"Hartley Patterson" <hpttrsn@daisy.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:MPG.1f63cc335fba285798982e@news.thundernews.com...

Jabriol-Green Jabriol-Green@mailinator.com:

I removed Talk.Origins from my reply. They have a content moderation
filter in effect against anything Jabriol related...


Newsgroups are separate for a good reason - their posters want to
discuss the subject in the title, though they might wander off topic
themselves they don't want outsiders stomping in and rudely interrupting
them.

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"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:1157372917.243861.263110@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
FaceDancer wrote:

You actually believe this? Prey tell, what are the name of these nation
who are governed by Theocracy.

Iran. Afghanistan before the Taleban was overthrown. The USA under
the Bush administration, although arguably it's equally governed by big
business.
Still waiting on you finding the guts to face me, "Face" Dancer in the
other thread from which you're running. Know the one I mean? Or shall
I embarrass you with a reference to it?
[rest of vacuous ***** snipped]
Budikka - Kicking Jabriol's dumb ***** for over two years.
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"Enkidu" <ox_qljjor@trashmail.net> wrote in message
news:Xns983496AAA6ED3255229@0.0.0.1...

Jabriol-Violet <Jabriol-Violet@mailinator.com> wrote in
news:bm%Kg.4556$ub5.1258@trnddc07:

your posting history claims you have been posting just from sept.
unless you are lying.

Says the nym-shifting sack of *****.


The only person who goes nuts and sys this is carol. Do you know
carol?


No. I've seen your sorry ***** far too often, though. Perhaps, if just
once you actually had a point, an original thought . . . no, that's too
much to ask. Nothing but plagerized Watchtower crap and incompetent
attempts to smear others, that's who you are, it's what you do. And you
know you are a lame sack of *****. That's why you have to nym-shift
several times a day.

Well, after a good *****, most people wipe and flush. You aren't even a
good *****. Down you go, buddy!

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"Michael Gray" <fleetg@newsguy.spam.com>
wrote in message news:5l9ag2hndfe064hhapjc19bmmd7r6tpoia@4ax.com...


Just being jabriol is penalty enough for him.
Imagine having to live inside that vile and poisonous brain.

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"Kevin Anthoney" <kevin_anthoney@hotmail.com>
wrote in message news:XdydnW1LA_B6bZvYRVnysA@pipex.net...


Wonder how many of Jabber's sock puppets are
included in the 144,000 destined for heaven?

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Jabriol gives usenet a fine WITNESS:
"Kenran Butoh Sai" is JABRIOL; a Jehovah's Witness<sai@mailinator.com> wrote
in message news:BbmMg.1166$xr.100@trnddc03...

You left because you couldn't masturbate and screw women at 14?

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"Mike Anderson" <prabbit1@shamrocksgf.com> wrote in message
news:ee6kvl$n8c$2@news04.infoave.net...

Vance Liscomb wrote:

What exactly have I lied about?


Let's save some bandwidth and list the things you have NOT lied about:

1: ...............

Hmmm...I seem to be having problems coming up with even the first thing.

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"Michael Gray" <fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in message
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On Fri, 8 Sep 2006 16:16:50 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:

Guess you were lying.


Not a difficult call in Vance's case.
I don't recall him ever having posted anything even vaguely resembling
truth or reality here.
He is a compulsive liar for YHWH.

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"Michael Gray" <fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in message
news:m6m9g21aoj5elsq5lrtcbfcld6re368f99@4ax.com...

I expect nothing but double standards from this viciously ignorant JW
lying cretin.
Anything else would come as a shock!

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"Barspeed Beta version 4.0" <barspeed@tooscale.co.uk> wrote in message
news:19aSg.9152$Ij.3243@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com...

Iblis Ginjo (JABRIOL) wrote: SNIP!
An idiot, trying to correct someone, who is already correct. Use spell
check moron (moanong). Come on over to alt.autos.mini , and I will kick
your *****.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Anthony Wilson" <tw1985fla@hotmail.com>
Newsgroups:
alt.free.newsservers,alt.religion.jehovahs-witn,alt.talk.creationism,alt.ath
eism,free.christians
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 11:27 AM
Subject: Re: Carolyn Gulley still claims you have me under investigation..

I used to be a JW and I'm familiar with this idiot. I have a degree in
Psychology and I'm a Microsoft Systems Engineer.
Jabriol is a psychopath who needs either lifelong mental
treatment or else to be eliminated before he hurts someone for real. If
anyone like him ever made the statements he makes and did it to my family
and frightened them, I'd take care of him myself. End of story.

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"magilla" <chris.linthompson@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1161274226.636818.22310@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...


Altitude wrote:

http://www.mithrilstar.org/newssamhain04.htm


Send your daughter out on Halloween, Jabbers, so we can sacrifice her.

Oh wait, she's not a virgin. You saw to that, didn't you?

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"BullDozer" <geister@mailinator.com> wrote in message
news:1159572183.549776.207350@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

Warren McLaughlin

Jabriol's socks for the last week to today:
BullDozer
Xavier Harkonnen
Rekur Van
Anonymous via the Cypherpunks
Tekkamen
FireBirdGrey
WhiteDwarf
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"Stephen Knight" <wooly51@comcast.net> wrote in message
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On 2 Nov 2006 08:50:16 -0800, "Jabriol" <jabriolusenet@gmail.com>
wrote:

*****, Jabby.

I'll wake up tomorrow and start a new day. You'll wake and be an
***** forever.

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"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
news:ip6vk2p36l9od4hvd0v5q6gqhousqsr61t@4ax.com...

On Mon, 06 Nov 2006 17:04:45 GMT, Gilbertus Albans
<primemenstat@world.net> wrote:

Should Christian vote?


Christians, yes, but why would that concern you, Jabbers? You're as
Christian as bin Laden, and twice as sociopathic. Should you be
allowed to vote? You shouldn't be allowed out of your cage without a
leash.

.

User: "quibbler"

Title: Re: Old, Gray Fools of Bishops plot ways to lobotimize congregations 17 Nov 2006 08:41:44 PM
In article <1163734590.225945.66550@f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
geister@mailinator.com says...

America's Roman Catholic bishops are focusing on the many
Catholics who misunderstand or disregard church teaching

Actually the church teachings are a crazy quilt of nonsense that often
leaves the issues up to individual conscience. The church refuses to
rule authoritatively because they know they are afraid that, the moment
they do that in the modern world, that they will be proven wrong.

, instructing
them on beliefs about homosexuality,

The church won't touch homosexuality, because too many of their priests
are still homos.

marriage,

Catholics have nothing intelligent to say about marriage at this point.
Most catholics recognize that divorce is both reasonable and in some
cases utterly essential. The ***** antics of obtaining "annulments"
is not a formality that many catholics even bother with anymore.

contraception

The overwhelming majority of catholics disregard the idiotic and
unauthoritive papal teachings on abortion. Of course the pope ignored
the majority of his own counsel, who voted to remove restrictions on
contraception.

and Holy
Communion.

Who gives a *****. What an utterly meaningless, moronic waste of time.
If you want to have some dude's "flesh" in your mouth then kneel down and
worship my ***** with your lips.
--
"I condemn false prophets, I condemn the effort
to take away the power of rational decision, to
drain people of their free will--and a hell of a
lot of money in the bargain. Religions vary in
their degree of idiocy, but I reject them all.
For most people, religion is nothing more than a
substitute for a malfunctioning brain." --Gene Roddenberry
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User: "Gilbertus Albans"

Title: Re: Bishops strategize on wayward Catholics 17 Nov 2006 09:03:12 AM
NeoVeritas wrote:


Annual conference to deal with marriage, contraception, homosexuality

BALTIMORE - America's Roman Catholic bishops are focusing on the many
Catholics who misunderstand or disregard church teaching, instructing
them on beliefs about homosexuality, marriage, contraception and Holy
Communion.

In a national meeting to start Monday in Baltimore, the bishops were to
consider new guidelines on ministry to gay parishioners, explaining the
theological underpinnings of the Catholic mandate that marriage must be
limited to one man and one woman.

The prelates were also to take up documents on worthiness for receiving
Communion and on the church's widely ignored ban on artificial
contraception. Surveys have found that only about 4 percent of Catholic
married couples of childbearing age use natural birth control,
according to the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops.

The attention to core teachings comes as the 64 million-member American
church faces a shortage of priests, low rates of Mass attendance and a
massive influx of Hispanic immigrants.

Diocesan budgets are stretched thin. Bishops nationwide have been
closing older parishes that are too expensive to maintain, while trying
to cover rising costs for operating their schools. And several dioceses
are still negotiating settlements in the millions of dollars over
claims of clergy xxx abuse. The cases of three of the four dioceses
that have sought bankruptcy protection from molestation claims remain
unresolved.

To adjust these pressures, the bishops this week will consider
restructuring the conference's Washington headquarters. Under the
proposal, American dioceses would send less money to the conference,
which would in turn cut jobs and committees.

Bishops have complained for years that the funds they turn over for
conference work are badly needed in their home dioceses. Others
consider the large conference staff unnecessary, a hangover from its
heyday in the early 1980s when revered Chicago Cardinal Joseph
Bernardin was guiding conference work and the prelates undertook such
ambitious projects as the pastoral letter on nuclear war called "The
Challenge of Peace."

The bishops have proposed a new set of priorities for their streamlined
conference through 2011, including an initiative supporting marriage,
increasing the number of candidates for the priesthood and improving
education for Catholics on church teaching.

The meeting runs through Thursday, but the bishops have decided to
conduct more business than usual behind closed doors. This week, public
sessions will end Tuesday. In previous years, the conference only held
a half-day executive session at its fall meeting, but a spokeswoman
said the extra time was needed for "prayer and reflection."


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15697161/

huh?
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