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"Fredric L. Rice" |
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02 Feb 2006 08:21:37 PM |
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Bizarre freedom of speech issue |
http://nyc.indymedia.org/en/2006/02/64215.html
Another issue that a.r.s free speech activists might wonder about.
The hosting of white supremacist web sites which advocate murder
and other forms of violence against gays, Catholics, blacks, Jews
and what not isn't illegal in the United States -- simply hosting
and calling for murder isn't a "credible threat," and it shouldn't
be. I'd expect it's good to have such people out where they can
be seen.
The person who's hosting the terrorist groups is Hal Turner, one
of the more violently extremist white supremacist individuals out
there in Republican talk radio land. He's hosting groups that are
branded as domestic terrorist groups in Europe, side-stepping the
laws there which makes such hate speech criminally actionable.
It's kind of ironic that Europeans are hosting in the US to avoid
laws against free speech in a country that's being subjected to
"free speech zones" and "USA PATRIOT Act" fascism.
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"As I stand here right now, I can tell the American people the program's
legal, it's designed to protect civil liberties, and it's necessary."
-- George W. Bush on his felonious domestic espionage treason against us.
The Bush twins: Traditional Christian Family Values at its finest
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| User: "JTEM" |
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| Title: Re: Bizarre freedom of speech issue |
02 Feb 2006 08:50:24 PM |
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"Fredric L. Rice" <FRice@SkepticTank.ORG> wrote
It's kind of ironic that Europeans are hosting in the US to avoid
laws against free speech in a country that's being subjected to
"free speech zones" and "USA PATRIOT Act" fascism.
What, these aren't right-wing groups that you're talking about?
Because, if they're not, I would think it truly ironic. But so long
as they are right-wing groups then all is well.
Environmental & peace groups have been branded as terrorist
organizations here in the United States, but not any right-wing
groups that innocently promote violence.
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| User: "Fredric L. Rice" |
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| Title: Re: Bizarre freedom of speech issue |
02 Feb 2006 09:42:53 PM |
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"JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com> wrote:
"Fredric L. Rice" <FRice@SkepticTank.ORG> wrote
It's kind of ironic that Europeans are hosting in the US to avoid
laws against free speech in a country that's being subjected to
"free speech zones" and "USA PATRIOT Act" fascism.
What, these aren't right-wing groups that you're talking about?
You didn't read the article, huh, rightard?
---
"As I stand here right now, I can tell the American people the program's
legal, it's designed to protect civil liberties, and it's necessary."
-- George W. Bush on his felonious domestic espionage treason against us.
The Bush twins: Traditional Christian Family Values at its finest
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| User: "JTEM" |
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| Title: Re: Bizarre freedom of speech issue |
03 Feb 2006 12:01:32 AM |
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"Fredric L. Rice" <FRice@SkepticTank.ORG> wrote
"JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com> wrote:
"Fredric L. Rice" <FRice@SkepticTank.ORG> wrote
It's kind of ironic that Europeans are hosting in the US to avoid
laws against free speech in a country that's being subjected to
"free speech zones" and "USA PATRIOT Act" fascism.
What, these aren't right-wing groups that you're talking about?
You didn't read the article, huh, rightard?
Rightard, huh? Have you been sucking on a tailpipe?
And, as I pointed out, there's nothing "ironic" about it. If you
read the article, and my comments, you would know that.
The article specifically mentions RIGHT WING groups, and
in the country with "free speech zones" and "USA PATRIOT
Act" it's LEFT WING groups, no matter how distinctly
non-dangerous, which are the target of surveillance and have
suffered curbs on their free speech.
It's environmentalists & peace protestors which have had
their civil rights squashed in the United States, while violent
right-wing terrorist are offered plea bargains from federal
prosecutors.
So, again, there's nothing ironic about RIGHT WING groups
exporting their web sites to Bush's America. In fact, it's
100% in line with the current political climate (which
just happens to include "free speech zones" and the Patriot
Act).
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| User: "Fredric L. Rice" |
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| Title: Re: Bizarre freedom of speech issue |
03 Feb 2006 09:23:34 PM |
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"JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com> wrote:
"Fredric L. Rice" <FRice@SkepticTank.ORG> wrote
"JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com> wrote:
"Fredric L. Rice" <FRice@SkepticTank.ORG> wrote
It's kind of ironic that Europeans are hosting in the US to avoid
laws against free speech in a country that's being subjected to
"free speech zones" and "USA PATRIOT Act" fascism.
What, these aren't right-wing groups that you're talking about?
You didn't read the article, huh, rightard?
Rightard, huh? Have you been sucking on a tailpipe?
Ah, you didn't read it. Typical rightard.
---
"As I stand here right now, I can tell the American people the program's
legal, it's designed to protect civil liberties, and it's necessary."
-- George W. Bush on his felonious domestic espionage treason against us.
The Bush twins: Traditional Christian Family Values at its finest
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| User: "JTEM" |
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| Title: Re: Bizarre freedom of speech issue |
03 Feb 2006 10:11:42 PM |
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"Fredric L. Rice" <FRice@SkepticTank.ORG> wrote
Ah, you didn't read it. Typical rightard.
You avoided the question. Have you or have you not
been sucking a tailpipe?
After you answer we can then move on to what you
think the website said.
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| User: "Fredric L. Rice" |
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| Title: Re: Bizarre freedom of speech issue |
04 Feb 2006 01:27:21 PM |
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"JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com> wrote:
"Fredric L. Rice" <FRice@SkepticTank.ORG> wrote
Ah, you didn't read it. Typical rightard.
You avoided the question.
You didn't read the article. Typical rightard Bush defending skidmark.
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"The power of the Executive to cast a man into prison without formulating
any charge known to the law, and particularly to deny him the judgement of
his peers, is in the highest degree odious and is the foundation of all
totalitarian government whether Nazi or Communist." -- W. Churchill, Nov
21, 1943 (Or whether Christofascist Republican.)
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Bizarre freedom of speech issue |
03 Feb 2006 10:34:09 PM |
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JTEM wrote:
"Fredric L. Rice" <FRice@SkepticTank.ORG> wrote
Ah, you didn't read it. Typical rightard.
You avoided the question. Have you or have you not
been sucking a tailpipe?
I think Fried Rice has been doing that for quite some time.
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