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"Fred Stone" |
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08 Sep 2005 12:01:11 PM |
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Blame Game Not Working |
http://www.thehill.com/thehill/export/TheHill/Comment/ByronYork/090805.h
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Of course people blame George W. Bush for some of the terrible mess that
followed Hurricane Katrina.
The federal government should have moved faster in the wake of the
storm, and the president, in the early days of the hurricane, should
have treated it like it was a big deal instead of continuing his working
vacation in Crawford, Texas.
But to the dismay of Democrats in Washington, members of the public are
not dumping all of the blame on the president.
First, a Washington Post/ABC News poll asked respondents, “How much
blame, if any, do you think Bush should get for the problems in the
federal response to the situation — a great deal, a good amount, only
some or none?”
Thirty-three percent of those polled said “some,” while 22 percent said
“none” — meaning 55 percent of those polled did not place a heavy share
of the blame at the president’s feet.
On the other side, 23 percent said a “great deal,” and 20 percent said a
“good amount” — meaning 43 percent of those polled did blame the
president.
Some of the president’s critics complained about the poll. People didn’t
put all the blame on Bush? Surely something was wrong.
For example, Media Matters for America, the “progressive” watchdog
group, wrote a critique headlined, “Media touted questionable Washington
Post/ABC poll to say public opinion of Bush’s hurricane response is
mixed.”
Media Matters said the Post polled too few people and the survey was
taken during a holiday weekend, when it could not reach a representative
sample of Americans.
But then came another poll, this one from Gallup, with a bigger sample
size, that was taken, at least in part, during this business week.
And it also showed the public taking a balanced view toward blame for
the post-Katrina mess.
Gallup asked, “Who do you think is most responsible for the problems in
New Orleans after the hurricane — George W. Bush, federal agencies,
state and local officials, or is no one really to blame?”
Thirteen percent of those polled said Bush was most responsible.
Eighteen percent said federal agencies. Twenty-five percent said state
and local officials. And 38 percent said no one is really to blame.
Gallup also asked, “Do you think that any of the top officials in the
federal agencies responsible for handling emergencies should be fired,
or don’t you think so?”
Twenty-nine percent said yes, top officials should be fired. Sixty-three
percent said no, they shouldn’t. And 8 percent had no opinion.
All in all, a fairly balanced view.
And why has the public, at least as its opinion was expressed in two
polls, shown such common sense when some of Bush’s critics have gone
over the top? There are three reasons.
First, everyone saw that Katrina was an unusually powerful —
historically powerful — storm that just happened to hit perhaps the
nation’s most vulnerable hurricane target. Ninety-three percent of
respondents in the Gallup poll said it was the worst natural disaster in
the United States in their lifetime.
They realized instinctively that it would have been impossible to get
everyone out of New Orleans as the storm approached.
Second, people saw the Louisiana state leadership — specifically Gov.
Kathleen Blanco — wringing hands and talking about how overwhelming it
all was.
“It’s just totally overwhelming,” Blanco said Aug. 30, as the full
extent of the damage became known.
“This whole situation is totally overwhelming,” she said the next day.
Blanco — whose political style relies on appointing commissions,
studying problems and taking a long time to make decisions — did not
exactly inspire confidence as a leader in a crisis.
Third, people saw New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin sputtering about how
“*****” he was that help had not come to his city quickly enough —
even though he had not followed the detailed New Orleans evacuation
plan.
“Excuse my French, everybody in America, but I am pissed,” Nagin said
Sept. 1.
“I am pissed,” he said later. “I am absolutely *****.”
Again, not exactly the portrait of a leader in a crisis.
People put all those factors together and came up with a balanced
scorecard. They could see that Bush didn’t appear to take the hurricane
seriously in the beginning — why did he stay in Crawford for two days
after Katrina struck? — and that the Federal Emergency Management Agency
was slow off the mark.
But they could also see what was happening in New Orleans, and in Baton
Rouge. So they apportioned the blame accordingly.
Now come the investigations. Whoever conducts them, they will, after
months of studying, interviewing witnesses and recreating events, most
likely come to the same conclusion that the public has reached in just a
few days.
Yes, everybody should have done a better job. But the effort to find a
single scapegoat — preferably one whose name is George W. Bush — just
won’t succeed.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
I think if we had a three-word message right now it’d be, ‘We can do
better.’
- Howard Dean
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09 Sep 2005 06:13:45 AM |
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote
Of course people blame George W. Bush for some of the
terrible mess that followed Hurricane Katrina.
One. More. Time.
George Useless Bush cut a vacation short to go "Save"
a woman in Florida with no brain. Bush couldn't be
bothered to get food & water to a major U.S. city even
six days after tragedy struck.
That is, going by your precious Fox "news."
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| User: "Misleart Chuff" |
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08 Sep 2005 07:06:00 PM |
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
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http://www.thehill.com/thehill/export/TheHill/Comment/ByronYork/090805
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: Of course people blame George W. Bush for some of the terrible mess
that
: followed Hurricane Katrina.
[snip]
: Yes, everybody should have done a better job. But the effort to find
a
: single scapegoat - preferably one whose name is George W. Bush -
just
: won't succeed.
This just proves that you are even less of a thinker than the
small-minded, small-town, right-winger that I've been stuck working
closely with for the last year. She at least could put two and two
together, and now despises your boy. A year ago, she thought he could
do no wrong.
Let us know when you've found some sense.
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08 Sep 2005 06:16:51 PM |
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:1126180874.7b68386ccf52a27840d1231b8e02ccd9@teranews...
http://www.thehill.com/thehill/export/TheHill/Comment/ByronYork/090805.h
tml
Of course people blame George W. Bush for some of the terrible mess that
followed Hurricane Katrina.
The federal government should have moved faster in the wake of the
storm, and the president, in the early days of the hurricane, should
have treated it like it was a big deal instead of continuing his working
vacation in Crawford, Texas.
But to the dismay of Democrats in Washington, members of the public are
not dumping all of the blame on the president.
First, a Washington Post/ABC News poll asked respondents, "How much
blame, if any, do you think Bush should get for the problems in the
federal response to the situation - a great deal, a good amount, only
some or none?"
Thirty-three percent of those polled said "some," while 22 percent said
"none" - meaning 55 percent of those polled did not place a heavy share
of the blame at the president's feet.
On the other side, 23 percent said a "great deal," and 20 percent said a
"good amount" - meaning 43 percent of those polled did blame the
president.
Re: 65% Blame the Idiot. Blame game working!
(Wow, that's so easy to do! I love language.)
So, 22%-some, 23%-great deal, 20%-good amount means 65% of the people place
at least some blame on the Idiot. Seems reasonable to me. I think the blame
game is working.
However keep up your Herculean effort in concert with the rest of the
neocon lemming corps to deflect all the blame and you can improve those
numbers. I see you've been working exceptionally hard on this one. Some very
lengthy posts in an effort to maintain your demigod's perfect record of no
responsibility for anything.
Rob Brown
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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08 Sep 2005 07:13:32 PM |
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"Rob Brown" <bbrown@csmflorida.com> wrote in
news:ne%Te.35663$p_1.24398@tornado.tampabay.rr.com:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:1126180874.7b68386ccf52a27840d1231b8e02ccd9@teranews...
http://www.thehill.com/thehill/export/TheHill/Comment/ByronYork/090805
.h tml
Of course people blame George W. Bush for some of the terrible mess
that followed Hurricane Katrina.
The federal government should have moved faster in the wake of the
storm, and the president, in the early days of the hurricane, should
have treated it like it was a big deal instead of continuing his
working vacation in Crawford, Texas.
But to the dismay of Democrats in Washington, members of the public
are not dumping all of the blame on the president.
First, a Washington Post/ABC News poll asked respondents, "How much
blame, if any, do you think Bush should get for the problems in the
federal response to the situation - a great deal, a good amount, only
some or none?"
Thirty-three percent of those polled said "some," while 22 percent
said "none" - meaning 55 percent of those polled did not place a
heavy share of the blame at the president's feet.
On the other side, 23 percent said a "great deal," and 20 percent
said a "good amount" - meaning 43 percent of those polled did blame
the president.
Re: 65% Blame the Idiot. Blame game working!
(Wow, that's so easy to do! I love language.)
So, 22%-some, 23%-great deal, 20%-good amount means 65% of the people
place
at least some blame on the Idiot. Seems reasonable to me. I think the
blame game is working.
The much more telling numbers were from the other poll, by Gallup. Of
course you snipped that part, which is in keep with your denial of
reality.
However keep up your Herculean effort in concert with the rest of the
neocon lemming corps to deflect all the blame and you can improve
those numbers. I see you've been working exceptionally hard on this
one. Some very lengthy posts in an effort to maintain your demigod's
perfect record of no responsibility for anything.
Rob Brown
When you get around to showing that those lengthy posts are not factual,
you might have something. Emotionalism and denial gets you nowhere.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
I think if we had a three-word message right now it’d be, ‘We can do
better.’
- Howard Dean
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| User: "Misleart Chuff" |
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08 Sep 2005 07:50:47 PM |
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:1126206817.176b0dd178514804fab92679ca0a4e15@teranews...
: "Rob Brown" <bbrown@csmflorida.com> wrote in
: news:ne%Te.35663$p_1.24398@tornado.tampabay.rr.com:
[snip]
: > Re: 65% Blame the Idiot. Blame game working!
: > (Wow, that's so easy to do! I love language.)
: >
: > So, 22%-some, 23%-great deal, 20%-good amount means 65% of the
people
: > place
: > at least some blame on the Idiot. Seems reasonable to me. I think
the
: > blame game is working.
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: The much more telling numbers were from the other poll, by Gallup.
Of
: course you snipped that part, which is in keep with your denial of
: reality.
You have no room to speak, your denial of reality is complete.
: > However keep up your Herculean effort in concert with the rest of
the
: > neocon lemming corps to deflect all the blame and you can improve
: > those numbers. I see you've been working exceptionally hard on
this
: > one. Some very lengthy posts in an effort to maintain your
demigod's
: > perfect record of no responsibility for anything.
: > Rob Brown
: >
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: When you get around to showing that those lengthy posts are not
factual,
: you might have something. Emotionalism and denial gets you nowhere.
If they get you nowhere, why do you persist? You keep jacking your
jaw, but all that comes out is *****.
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| User: "Rob Brown" |
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08 Sep 2005 08:58:14 PM |
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:1126206817.176b0dd178514804fab92679ca0a4e15@teranews...
"Rob Brown" <bbrown@csmflorida.com> wrote in
news:ne%Te.35663$p_1.24398@tornado.tampabay.rr.com:
Re: 65% Blame the Idiot. Blame game working!
(Wow, that's so easy to do! I love language.)
So, 22%-some, 23%-great deal, 20%-good amount means 65% of the people
place
at least some blame on the Idiot. Seems reasonable to me. I think the
blame game is working.
The much more telling numbers were from the other poll, by Gallup.
So, from two differing sets of poll results, you take the numbers which
benefit your position and title your post "Blame Game Not Working" and I do
exactly the opposite. Why wouldn't you be guilty of exactly what you accuse
me of ?
In fact that was my whole point.
From my original post -"Re: 65% Blame the Idiot. Blame game working!
(Wow, that's so easy to do! I love language.)" end quote.
Why did you choose to ignore one of the polls in your post?
Of
course you snipped that part, which is in keep with your denial of
reality.
Bull, everyone reading this can read. I never fear the truth.
However keep up your Herculean effort in concert with the rest of the
neocon lemming corps to deflect all the blame and you can improve
those numbers. I see you've been working exceptionally hard on this
one. Some very lengthy posts in an effort to maintain your demigod's
perfect record of no responsibility for anything.
Rob Brown
When you get around to showing that those lengthy posts are not factual,
you might have something. Emotionalism and denial gets you nowhere.
Sorry, there will be time for that later. I'm a problem solver. I'm focused
on solving problems now. I won't play the blame game. (ROTFL)
Rob Brown
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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08 Sep 2005 09:58:05 PM |
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"Rob Brown" <bbrown@csmflorida.com> wrote in
news:GB1Ue.14500$4i6.10437@tornado.tampabay.rr.com:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:1126206817.176b0dd178514804fab92679ca0a4e15@teranews...
"Rob Brown" <bbrown@csmflorida.com> wrote in
news:ne%Te.35663$p_1.24398@tornado.tampabay.rr.com:
Re: 65% Blame the Idiot. Blame game working!
(Wow, that's so easy to do! I love language.)
So, 22%-some, 23%-great deal, 20%-good amount means 65% of the
people place
at least some blame on the Idiot. Seems reasonable to me. I think
the blame game is working.
The much more telling numbers were from the other poll, by Gallup.
So, from two differing sets of poll results, you take the numbers
which
benefit your position and title your post "Blame Game Not Working" and
I do exactly the opposite. Why wouldn't you be guilty of exactly what
you accuse me of ?
Because I posted both sets of numbers from that article. I bet you
didn't even bother to click the link, did you?
In fact that was my whole point.
From my original post -"Re: 65% Blame the Idiot. Blame game working!
(Wow, that's so easy to do! I love language.)" end quote.
Why did you choose to ignore one of the polls in your post?
I didn't, or I wouldn't have posted it.
Of
course you snipped that part, which is in keep with your denial of
reality.
Bull, everyone reading this can read. I never fear the truth.
You're still in denial of it.
However keep up your Herculean effort in concert with the rest of
the
neocon lemming corps to deflect all the blame and you can improve
those numbers. I see you've been working exceptionally hard on this
one. Some very lengthy posts in an effort to maintain your demigod's
perfect record of no responsibility for anything.
Rob Brown
When you get around to showing that those lengthy posts are not
factual, you might have something. Emotionalism and denial gets you
nowhere.
Sorry, there will be time for that later. I'm a problem solver. I'm
focused on solving problems now. I won't play the blame game. (ROTFL)
Rob Brown
Hardy har har.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
I think if we had a three-word message right now it’d be, ‘We can do
better.’ - Howard Dean
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09 Sep 2005 03:25:07 PM |
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Everyone in the administration--Bush, Bush Sr., McClellan, Brown--have
decried others for playing the "blame game" over Katrina, while at the
same time smearing state and local officials, and even the victims
themselves. The hypocrisy of their words would be stunning if they
weren't so predictable.
Bush and Brown should be in jail for negligent homicide (wouldn't you
love to see that "perp walk"!)
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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09 Sep 2005 04:43:57 PM |
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(Scott Richter) wrote in
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Everyone in the administration--Bush, Bush Sr., McClellan, Brown--have
decried others for playing the "blame game" over Katrina, while at the
same time smearing state and local officials, and even the victims
themselves. The hypocrisy of their words would be stunning if they
weren't so predictable.
Oh, but we've been told that it's not a smear to point out the truth.
And the truth is that Blanco and Nagin were responsible for both the
failure to provide public transportation for those who needed it to
evacuate, and also for refusing to let the Red Cross and the Salvation
Army in to stock the Superdome and the Convention Center with supplies.
Bush and Brown should be in jail for negligent homicide (wouldn't you
love to see that "perp walk"!)
While they bear part of the responsibility, local authorities bear much
more.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
I think if we had a three-word message right now it’d be, ‘We can do
better.’
- Howard Dean
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08 Sep 2005 02:14:01 PM |
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On Thu, 08 Sep 2005 12:01:11 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
http://www.thehill.com/thehill/export/TheHill/Comment/ByronYork/090805.h
tml
Of course people blame George W. Bush for some of the terrible mess that
followed Hurricane Katrina.
The federal government should have moved faster in the wake of the
storm, and the president, in the early days of the hurricane, should
have treated it like it was a big deal instead of continuing his working
vacation in Crawford, Texas.
But to the dismay of Democrats in Washington, members of the public are
not dumping all of the blame on the president.
First, a Washington Post/ABC News poll asked respondents, “How much
blame, if any, do you think Bush should get for the problems in the
federal response to the situation — a great deal, a good amount, only
some or none?”
Thirty-three percent of those polled said “some,” while 22 percent said
“none” — meaning 55 percent of those polled did not place a heavy share
of the blame at the president’s feet.
On the other side, 23 percent said a “great deal,” and 20 percent said a
“good amount” — meaning 43 percent of those polled did blame the
president.
Some of the president’s critics complained about the poll. People didn’t
put all the blame on Bush? Surely something was wrong.
For example, Media Matters for America, the “progressive” watchdog
group, wrote a critique headlined, “Media touted questionable Washington
Post/ABC poll to say public opinion of Bush’s hurricane response is
mixed.”
Media Matters said the Post polled too few people and the survey was
taken during a holiday weekend, when it could not reach a representative
sample of Americans.
But then came another poll, this one from Gallup, with a bigger sample
size, that was taken, at least in part, during this business week.
And it also showed the public taking a balanced view toward blame for
the post-Katrina mess.
Gallup asked, “Who do you think is most responsible for the problems in
New Orleans after the hurricane — George W. Bush, federal agencies,
state and local officials, or is no one really to blame?”
Thirteen percent of those polled said Bush was most responsible.
Eighteen percent said federal agencies. Twenty-five percent said state
and local officials. And 38 percent said no one is really to blame.
Gallup also asked, “Do you think that any of the top officials in the
federal agencies responsible for handling emergencies should be fired,
or don’t you think so?”
Twenty-nine percent said yes, top officials should be fired. Sixty-three
percent said no, they shouldn’t. And 8 percent had no opinion.
All in all, a fairly balanced view.
And why has the public, at least as its opinion was expressed in two
polls, shown such common sense when some of Bush’s critics have gone
over the top? There are three reasons.
First, everyone saw that Katrina was an unusually powerful —
historically powerful — storm that just happened to hit perhaps the
nation’s most vulnerable hurricane target. Ninety-three percent of
respondents in the Gallup poll said it was the worst natural disaster in
the United States in their lifetime.
They realized instinctively that it would have been impossible to get
everyone out of New Orleans as the storm approached.
Second, people saw the Louisiana state leadership — specifically Gov.
Kathleen Blanco — wringing hands and talking about how overwhelming it
all was.
“It’s just totally overwhelming,” Blanco said Aug. 30, as the full
extent of the damage became known.
“This whole situation is totally overwhelming,” she said the next day.
Blanco — whose political style relies on appointing commissions,
studying problems and taking a long time to make decisions — did not
exactly inspire confidence as a leader in a crisis.
Third, people saw New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin sputtering about how
“*****” he was that help had not come to his city quickly enough —
even though he had not followed the detailed New Orleans evacuation
plan.
“Excuse my French, everybody in America, but I am pissed,” Nagin said
Sept. 1.
“I am pissed,” he said later. “I am absolutely *****.”
Again, not exactly the portrait of a leader in a crisis.
People put all those factors together and came up with a balanced
scorecard. They could see that Bush didn’t appear to take the hurricane
seriously in the beginning — why did he stay in Crawford for two days
after Katrina struck? — and that the Federal Emergency Management Agency
was slow off the mark.
But they could also see what was happening in New Orleans, and in Baton
Rouge. So they apportioned the blame accordingly.
Now come the investigations. Whoever conducts them, they will, after
months of studying, interviewing witnesses and recreating events, most
likely come to the same conclusion that the public has reached in just a
few days.
Yes, everybody should have done a better job. But the effort to find a
single scapegoat — preferably one whose name is George W. Bush — just
won’t succeed.
Well, yeah it did work. When the feds were doing nothing, Nagin stood
up, screamed and told the world who was at fault. Then they finally
woke up and did do some things.
Apparently to get Bush and co to actually try, you have to deeply
embarass them and scream your head off. And of course, people have to
die, horribly.
The rest is just silly. Bush is looking really bad again and theres
now even reporting about how hard his handlers are working trying to
rescue the situation.
Here's a poll about what people now think of Bush
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/09/08/opinion/polls/main824591.shtml
And an online poll about it
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9246207/#survey
and another article about how Bush is getting it hard
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9245785/?displaymode=1006
and even the conservatives are blaming Bush
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6330851/
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08 Sep 2005 02:58:23 PM |
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(Kate ) wrote in
news:432943e2.56585609@news-west.newscene.com:
On Thu, 08 Sep 2005 12:01:11 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
http://www.thehill.com/thehill/export/TheHill/Comment/ByronYork/090805.
h tml
Of course people blame George W. Bush for some of the terrible mess
that followed Hurricane Katrina.
The federal government should have moved faster in the wake of the
storm, and the president, in the early days of the hurricane, should
have treated it like it was a big deal instead of continuing his
working vacation in Crawford, Texas.
But to the dismay of Democrats in Washington, members of the public
are not dumping all of the blame on the president.
First, a Washington Post/ABC News poll asked respondents, “How much
blame, if any, do you think Bush should get for the problems in the
federal response to the situation — a great deal, a good amount, only
some or none?”
Thirty-three percent of those polled said “some,” while 22 percent
said “none” — meaning 55 percent of those polled did not place a heavy
share of the blame at the president’s feet.
On the other side, 23 percent said a “great deal,” and 20 percent said
a “good amount” — meaning 43 percent of those polled did blame the
president.
Some of the president’s critics complained about the poll. People
didn’t put all the blame on Bush? Surely something was wrong.
For example, Media Matters for America, the “progressive” watchdog
group, wrote a critique headlined, “Media touted questionable
Washington Post/ABC poll to say public opinion of Bush’s hurricane
response is mixed.”
Media Matters said the Post polled too few people and the survey was
taken during a holiday weekend, when it could not reach a
representative sample of Americans.
But then came another poll, this one from Gallup, with a bigger sample
size, that was taken, at least in part, during this business week.
And it also showed the public taking a balanced view toward blame for
the post-Katrina mess.
Gallup asked, “Who do you think is most responsible for the problems
in New Orleans after the hurricane — George W. Bush, federal agencies,
state and local officials, or is no one really to blame?”
Thirteen percent of those polled said Bush was most responsible.
Eighteen percent said federal agencies. Twenty-five percent said state
and local officials. And 38 percent said no one is really to blame.
Gallup also asked, “Do you think that any of the top officials in the
federal agencies responsible for handling emergencies should be fired,
or don’t you think so?”
Twenty-nine percent said yes, top officials should be fired.
Sixty-three percent said no, they shouldn’t. And 8 percent had no
opinion.
All in all, a fairly balanced view.
And why has the public, at least as its opinion was expressed in two
polls, shown such common sense when some of Bush’s critics have gone
over the top? There are three reasons.
First, everyone saw that Katrina was an unusually powerful —
historically powerful — storm that just happened to hit perhaps the
nation’s most vulnerable hurricane target. Ninety-three percent of
respondents in the Gallup poll said it was the worst natural disaster
in the United States in their lifetime.
They realized instinctively that it would have been impossible to get
everyone out of New Orleans as the storm approached.
Second, people saw the Louisiana state leadership — specifically Gov.
Kathleen Blanco — wringing hands and talking about how overwhelming it
all was.
“It’s just totally overwhelming,” Blanco said Aug. 30, as the full
extent of the damage became known.
“This whole situation is totally overwhelming,” she said the next day.
Blanco — whose political style relies on appointing commissions,
studying problems and taking a long time to make decisions — did not
exactly inspire confidence as a leader in a crisis.
Third, people saw New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin sputtering about how
“*****” he was that help had not come to his city quickly enough
— even though he had not followed the detailed New Orleans evacuation
plan.
“Excuse my French, everybody in America, but I am pissed,” Nagin said
Sept. 1.
“I am pissed,” he said later. “I am absolutely *****.”
Again, not exactly the portrait of a leader in a crisis.
People put all those factors together and came up with a balanced
scorecard. They could see that Bush didn’t appear to take the
hurricane seriously in the beginning — why did he stay in Crawford for
two days after Katrina struck? — and that the Federal Emergency
Management Agency was slow off the mark.
But they could also see what was happening in New Orleans, and in
Baton Rouge. So they apportioned the blame accordingly.
Now come the investigations. Whoever conducts them, they will, after
months of studying, interviewing witnesses and recreating events, most
likely come to the same conclusion that the public has reached in just
a few days.
Yes, everybody should have done a better job. But the effort to find a
single scapegoat — preferably one whose name is George W. Bush — just
won’t succeed.
Well, yeah it did work. When the feds were doing nothing, Nagin stood
up, screamed and told the world who was at fault. Then they finally
woke up and did do some things.
Except that they were already doing things, and Nagin was only screaming
to cover for his own incompetence. And you moonbats fell for it like you
always do.
Apparently to get Bush and co to actually try, you have to deeply
embarass them and scream your head off. And of course, people have to
die, horribly.
The rest is just silly. Bush is looking really bad again and theres
now even reporting about how hard his handlers are working trying to
rescue the situation.
Yeah, they're working real hard to get the facts out over the howling
from the moonbats.
Here's a poll about what people now think of Bush
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/09/08/opinion/polls/main824591.sht
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And an online poll about it
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9246207/#survey
Online polls aren't worth the paper they're printed on.
and another article about how Bush is getting it hard
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9245785/?displaymode=1006
and even the conservatives are blaming Bush
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6330851/
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Except that they were already doing things, and Nagin
was only screaming to cover for his own incompetence.
Translation: "Those black people where better off dead!"
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Fred Stone wrote:
Except that they were already doing things, and Nagin was only screaming
to cover for his own incompetence.
Good thing you're not playing the "blame game", Fred. Otherwise you
might, y'know, accuse someone involved in this fiasco of covering for
his own incompetence.
Isn't it fascinating how that two-word phrase -- "blame game" --
suddenly appeared *everywhere*, all in the same day, on the lips of
every single Republican?
eyelessgame
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"eyelessgame" <aamp@oro.net> wrote in
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Fred Stone wrote:
Except that they were already doing things, and Nagin was only
screaming to cover for his own incompetence.
Good thing you're not playing the "blame game", Fred. Otherwise you
might, y'know, accuse someone involved in this fiasco of covering for
his own incompetence.
I was informed by another poster that it's not a "blame game" to put the
responsibility where it belongs.
Isn't it fascinating how that two-word phrase -- "blame game" --
suddenly appeared *everywhere*, all in the same day, on the lips of
every single Republican?
Catchy phrase, isn't it?
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/05/national/nationalspecial/05blame.html
http://www.factcheck.org/article337.html
http://www.tsn.ca/soccer/news_story.asp?id=135720
:-)
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On 9 Sep 2005 14:28:17 -0700, "eyelessgame" <aamp@oro.net> wrote:
Fred Stone wrote:
Except that they were already doing things, and Nagin was only screaming
to cover for his own incompetence.
Good thing you're not playing the "blame game", Fred. Otherwise you
might, y'know, accuse someone involved in this fiasco of covering for
his own incompetence.
Isn't it fascinating how that two-word phrase -- "blame game" --
suddenly appeared *everywhere*, all in the same day, on the lips of
every single Republican?
eyelessgame
Jon Stewart made a great comment Tuesday night. He referred to "blame
game" as "the phrase Republicans use to demean the concept of
accountability".
Precisely.
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Kate <cobalt@newscene.com> wrote:
Jon Stewart made a great comment Tuesday night. He referred to "blame
game" as "the phrase Republicans use to demean the concept of
accountability".
He also said they don't want to play the "blame game" because THEY'RE TO
BLAME...
The Daily Show this past week reached a new level as Jon Stewart
expressed the absolute disgust many of us feel about the criminally
inept people in the White House and FEMA. If anyone deserves a "Medal of
Freedom", Stewart does...
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Richter) wrote:
Kate <cobalt@newscene.com> wrote:
Jon Stewart made a great comment Tuesday night. He referred to "blame
game" as "the phrase Republicans use to demean the concept of
accountability".
He also said they don't want to play the "blame game" because THEY'RE TO
BLAME...
Precisely.
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L8r,
Uncle Buck
_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=
Those first to step up and say,
"Now is not the time for placing blame"
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...are quite often to blame....
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Uncle Buck <UncleBuck@SpamMeNot.com> wrote in
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On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 08:05:14 -0700, (Scott
Richter) wrote:
Kate <cobalt@newscene.com> wrote:
Jon Stewart made a great comment Tuesday night. He referred to
"blame game" as "the phrase Republicans use to demean the concept of
accountability".
He also said they don't want to play the "blame game" because THEY'RE
TO BLAME...
Precisely.
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/10/opinion/10tierney.html
The Case for a Cover-Up
By JOHN TIERNEY
Published: September 10, 2005
At last there is a light in the darkness. Washington was slow to respond
to Katrina's victims, but now Congress has finally sprung into action.
It has bravely promised to investigate the situation.
Skip to next paragraph
Unfortunately, the members haven't figured out exactly how, because
Democrats want it to be done by outsiders. They say the Republicans will
turn it into a cover-up. But why does that bother the Democrats so much?
Shouldn't members of both parties want to cover this up?
Suppose, for instance, investigators try to find out who had the
brilliant idea of putting the Federal Emergency Management Agency inside
a new department with an organizational chart modeled on the Soviet
Ministry of Agriculture and Food Economy. One Democrat, Hillary Clinton,
did question whether FEMA would suffer, but the idea was originally
championed by her colleagues, particularly Joe Lieberman.
Mr. Lieberman joined Mrs. Clinton this week in calling for a "re-
examination" of FEMA's status, but he was against independence before he
was for it. After the Sept. 11 attacks, he helped lead the charge to
create the Department of Homeland Security.
Republicans first resisted, as the Democratic National Committee pointed
out during the presidential campaign last year. Its radio advertisement
declared: "John Kerry fought to establish the Department of Homeland
Security. George Bush opposed it for almost a year after 9/11."
Or suppose the investigators try to find out why the Army Corps of
Engineers didn't protect New Orleans from the flood. Democrats have
blamed the Iraq war for diverting money and attention from domestic
needs. But that hasn't meant less money for the Corps during the past
five years. Overall spending hasn't declined since the Clinton years,
and there has been a fairly sharp increase in money for flood-control
construction projects in New Orleans.
The problem is that the bulk of the Corps's budget goes for projects far
less important than preventing floods in New Orleans. And if the
investigators want to find who's responsible, they don't have to leave
Capitol Hill.
Most of the Corps's budget consists of what are lovingly known on
appropriations committees as earmarks: money allocated specifically for
members' pet projects. Many of these projects flunk the Corps's own
cost-benefit analysis or haven't been analyzed at all. Many are jobs
that Corps officials don't even consider part of their mission, like
building sewage plants, purifying drinking water or maintaining lakeside
picnic tables.
The Corps is giving grants to improve New York City's drinking water. In
Massachusetts, the Corps offers BMX-style bike jumps at a lake near
Worcester and runs a theater next to the Cape Cod Canal showing a video
of "Canal Critters."
In rural Nevada, an area not known for hurricanes or shipping channels,
the Corps has been given $20 million for construction projects. When I
asked an official why so much was being spent in Nevada, he said that
the money was paying for wastewater treatment and mentioned the name of
Senator Harry Reid, the Democrat's leader in the Senate.
"Senator Reid is a great and good man," the Corps official explained,
"and he is on our committee."
This week Mary Landrieu, the Louisiana Democrat, lambasted Mr. Bush on
the Senate floor. "Everybody anticipated the breach of the levees, Mr.
President," she said. But she and others from the Louisiana delegation
have been shortchanging the levees themselves. As Michael Grunwald
reported in The Washington Post, they've diverted large sums to dubious
Corps projects aimed at increasing barge traffic, not preventing floods.
Ms. Landrieu forced the Corps to redo its calculations when a project to
deepen a port flunked its cost-benefit analysis.
Would Congressional investigators focus on these pork-barrel projects? I
would guess not. My daring prediction is they would make two
discoveries. First, that mistakes were made by many people outside
Congress. Second, that more money must be spent on flood protection
throughout America.
A few outside skeptics may suggest letting this money be spent by mayors
and governors in flood-prone areas who can lose their jobs if they
earmark it for too many boondoggles and allow disasters to occur. But
members of Congress would conclude that only they can be trusted to
dispense the money. Of course, should there be another flood somewhere,
they would be glad to investigate.
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TV's Fred Stone wrote:
Well, yeah it did work. When the feds were doing nothing, Nagin stood
up, screamed and told the world who was at fault. Then they finally
woke up and did do some things.
Except that they were already doing things, and Nagin was only screaming
to cover for his own incompetence. And you moonbats fell for it like you
always do.
Nagin was screaming out of desperation. Something Republicans have never
felt, sitting in their mansions and munching on their caviar.
Apparently to get Bush and co to actually try, you have to deeply
embarass them and scream your head off. And of course, people have to
die, horribly.
The rest is just silly. Bush is looking really bad again and theres
now even reporting about how hard his handlers are working trying to
rescue the situation.
Yeah, they're working real hard to get the facts out over the howling
from the moonbats.
"Ha! I called you a moonbat! That means I win the argument, moonbat."
</Fred>
Here's a poll about what people now think of Bush
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/09/08/opinion/polls/main824591.sht m
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And an online poll about it
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9246207/#survey
Online polls aren't worth the paper they're printed on.
Polls in general aren't worth a hill of beans.
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09 Sep 2005 01:33:00 PM |
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"towelie" <bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:g-adnRp-KOL_sbzeRVn-qQ@centurytel.net:
TV's Fred Stone wrote:
Well, yeah it did work. When the feds were doing nothing, Nagin
stood up, screamed and told the world who was at fault. Then they
finally woke up and did do some things.
Except that they were already doing things, and Nagin was only
screaming to cover for his own incompetence. And you moonbats fell
for it like you always do.
Nagin was screaming out of desperation.
Yes, his desperation to cover his own incompetence.
Something Republicans have
never felt, sitting in their mansions and munching on their caviar.
True, they're not so desperately incompetent.
Apparently to get Bush and co to actually try, you have to deeply
embarass them and scream your head off. And of course, people have
to die, horribly.
The rest is just silly. Bush is looking really bad again and theres
now even reporting about how hard his handlers are working trying to
rescue the situation.
Yeah, they're working real hard to get the facts out over the howling
from the moonbats.
"Ha! I called you a moonbat! That means I win the argument, moonbat."
</Fred>
Here's a poll about what people now think of Bush
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/09/08/opinion/polls/main824591.sh
t m l
And an online poll about it
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9246207/#survey
Online polls aren't worth the paper they're printed on.
Polls in general aren't worth a hill of beans.
I'll agree with that.
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Fred Stone
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09 Sep 2005 08:43:57 PM |
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TV's Fred Stone wrote:
Something Republicans have
never felt, sitting in their mansions and munching on their caviar.
True, they're not so desperately incompetent.
Yeah, that Mike Brown is one competent fellow.
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09 Sep 2005 09:23:44 PM |
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"towelie" <bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:Ge6dnZ2dnZ1PYISEnZ2dnWduvN6dnZ2dRVn-zZ2dnZ0@centurytel.net:
TV's Fred Stone wrote:
Something Republicans have
never felt, sitting in their mansions and munching on their caviar.
True, they're not so desperately incompetent.
Yeah, that Mike Brown is one competent fellow.
Compared to Nagin and Blanco?
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Fred Stone
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I think if we had a three-word message right now it’d be, ‘We can do
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- Howard Dean
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"towelie" <bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:Ge6dnZ2dnZ1PYISEnZ2dnWduvN6dnZ2dRVn-zZ2dnZ0@centurytel.net:
TV's Fred Stone wrote:
Something Republicans have
never felt, sitting in their mansions and munching on their caviar.
True, they're not so desperately incompetent.
Yeah, that Mike Brown is one competent fellow.
Compared to Nagin and Blanco?
We're talking about Republicans, Fred.
And yes, Nagin and Blanco are more competent than Horsey Brown.
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In article <432943e2.56585609@news-west.newscene.com>, Kate
said...
The rest is just silly. Bush is looking really bad again
and there's now even reporting about how hard his handlers
are working trying to rescue the situation.
In the movie "Eric the Viking," Terry Jones plays King Arnulf of
Hy-Brasil, a venerated island civilization. The kingdom was
entirely peaceful, because "the gods decreed that if ever sword
spills human blood upon these shores, the whole of Hy-Brasil
will sink beneath the waves."
Well, at some point that drop falls, and the island begins to
totter into the sea. The king's response, as the columns crash
and the temples tumble and the seas surge in? Arnulf says
evenly, "Stay calm! This is NOT happening." His faithful
courtiers stand near, placid amidst the turmoil, convinced by
their leader's words that the end is not nigh.
Then, in manner akin to the protestations of blog-drunken
conservative apologists, Arnulf explains: "Now, I know what some
of you must be thinking...the day has come.... we're all going
down, etc. etc. But let's get away from the fantasy and look at
the FACTS."
Even when the waters crash into the Great Hall, Arnulf remains
undisturbed: "There has NEVER been a safer, more certain way of
keeping the peace. So whatever's happening, you can rest
assured, Hy-Brasil is NOT sinking. Repeat, NOT sinking."
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On 8 Sep 2005 09:14:01 -0500, (Kate ) wrote:
On Thu, 08 Sep 2005 12:01:11 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
http://www.thehill.com/thehill/export/TheHill/Comment/ByronYork/090805.h
tml
Of course people blame George W. Bush for some of the terrible mess that
followed Hurricane Katrina.
The federal government should have moved faster in the wake of the
storm, and the president, in the early days of the hurricane, should
have treated it like it was a big deal instead of continuing his working
vacation in Crawford, Texas.
But to the dismay of Democrats in Washington, members of the public are
not dumping all of the blame on the president.
First, a Washington Post/ABC News poll asked respondents, “How much
blame, if any, do you think Bush should get for the problems in the
federal response to the situation — a great deal, a good amount, only
some or none?”
Thirty-three percent of those polled said “some,” while 22 percent said
“none” — meaning 55 percent of those polled did not place a heavy share
of the blame at the president’s feet.
On the other side, 23 percent said a “great deal,” and 20 percent said a
“good amount” — meaning 43 percent of those polled did blame the
president.
Some of the president’s critics complained about the poll. People didn’t
put all the blame on Bush? Surely something was wrong.
For example, Media Matters for America, the “progressive” watchdog
group, wrote a critique headlined, “Media touted questionable Washington
Post/ABC poll to say public opinion of Bush’s hurricane response is
mixed.”
Media Matters said the Post polled too few people and the survey was
taken during a holiday weekend, when it could not reach a representative
sample of Americans.
But then came another poll, this one from Gallup, with a bigger sample
size, that was taken, at least in part, during this business week.
And it also showed the public taking a balanced view toward blame for
the post-Katrina mess.
Gallup asked, “Who do you think is most responsible for the problems in
New Orleans after the hurricane — George W. Bush, federal agencies,
state and local officials, or is no one really to blame?”
Thirteen percent of those polled said Bush was most responsible.
Eighteen percent said federal agencies. Twenty-five percent said state
and local officials. And 38 percent said no one is really to blame.
Gallup also asked, “Do you think that any of the top officials in the
federal agencies responsible for handling emergencies should be fired,
or don’t you think so?”
Twenty-nine percent said yes, top officials should be fired. Sixty-three
percent said no, they shouldn’t. And 8 percent had no opinion.
All in all, a fairly balanced view.
And why has the public, at least as its opinion was expressed in two
polls, shown such common sense when some of Bush’s critics have gone
over the top? There are three reasons.
First, everyone saw that Katrina was an unusually powerful —
historically powerful — storm that just happened to hit perhaps the
nation’s most vulnerable hurricane target. Ninety-three percent of
respondents in the Gallup poll said it was the worst natural disaster in
the United States in their lifetime.
They realized instinctively that it would have been impossible to get
everyone out of New Orleans as the storm approached.
Second, people saw the Louisiana state leadership — specifically Gov.
Kathleen Blanco — wringing hands and talking about how overwhelming it
all was.
“It’s just totally overwhelming,” Blanco said Aug. 30, as the full
extent of the damage became known.
“This whole situation is totally overwhelming,” she said the next day.
Blanco — whose political style relies on appointing commissions,
studying problems and taking a long time to make decisions — did not
exactly inspire confidence as a leader in a crisis.
Third, people saw New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin sputtering about how
“*****” he was that help had not come to his city quickly enough —
even though he had not followed the detailed New Orleans evacuation
plan.
“Excuse my French, everybody in America, but I am pissed,” Nagin said
Sept. 1.
“I am pissed,” he said later. “I am absolutely *****.”
Again, not exactly the portrait of a leader in a crisis.
People put all those factors together and came up with a balanced
scorecard. They could see that Bush didn’t appear to take the hurricane
seriously in the beginning — why did he stay in Crawford for two days
after Katrina struck? — and that the Federal Emergency Management Agency
was slow off the mark.
But they could also see what was happening in New Orleans, and in Baton
Rouge. So they apportioned the blame accordingly.
Now come the investigations. Whoever conducts them, they will, after
months of studying, interviewing witnesses and recreating events, most
likely come to the same conclusion that the public has reached in just a
few days.
Yes, everybody should have done a better job. But the effort to find a
single scapegoat — preferably one whose name is George W. Bush — just
won’t succeed.
Well, yeah it did work. When the feds were doing nothing, Nagin stood
up, screamed and told the world who was at fault. Then they finally
woke up and did do some things.
Apparently to get Bush and co to actually try, you have to deeply
embarass them and scream your head off. And of course, people have to
die, horribly.
The rest is just silly. Bush is looking really bad again and theres
now even reporting about how hard his handlers are working trying to
rescue the situation.
Here's a poll about what people now think of Bush
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/09/08/opinion/polls/main824591.shtml
And an online poll about it
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9246207/#survey
and another article about how Bush is getting it hard
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9245785/?displaymode=1006
and even the conservatives are blaming Bush
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6330851/
Excpet for cocksuckers like Fred Stone
-----
Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec (aka aka Yang's little poltregeist *****)
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.6 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -1893 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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On Thu, 08 Sep 2005 12:01:11 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
http://www.thehill.com/thehill/export/TheHill/Comment/ByronYork/090805.h
tml
Of course people blame George W. Bush for some of the terrible mess that
followed Hurricane Katrina.
Did I miss something?
Isn't he in charge!? Isn't he the President? The guy that's
supposed to see to the best interest of American citizens?
Now, instead of doing anything viable, he doing the Washington Spin
instead of taking responsibility to alleviate a national disaster. The
same crap he did during and after 9/11.
If there was a thinking person in government, a call for
impeachment would be screamed from the highest hill.
The only thing Bush does is kill people. And he does that by pure
stupidity.
Warlord Steve
BAAWA
www.sonic.net/~wooly
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"Steve Knight" <wooly@sonic.net> wrote
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
Of course people blame George W. Bush for some of the terrible mess that
followed Hurricane Katrina.
Did I miss something?
Isn't he in charge!? Isn't he the President? The guy that's
supposed to see to the best interest of American citizens?
Only when there's good news to report. Like the way....
I mean, there was the time he... and the economy, um... the
WMDs in Iraq were, um, they were...
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09 Sep 2005 02:52:57 AM |
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Steve Knight <wooly@sonic.net> wrote in
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On Thu, 08 Sep 2005 12:01:11 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
http://www.thehill.com/thehill/export/TheHill/Comment/ByronYork/090805.
h tml
Of course people blame George W. Bush for some of the terrible mess
that followed Hurricane Katrina.
Did I miss something?
Isn't he in charge!? Isn't he the President? The guy that's
supposed to see to the best interest of American citizens?
Along with the governors of the states and the mayors of the cities, who
are *not* his subordinates.
Now, instead of doing anything viable, he doing the Washington Spin
instead of taking responsibility to alleviate a national disaster. The
same crap he did during and after 9/11.
That's hysterical. If you haven't noticed yet, Bush hasn't tried to
blame anybody. He's just doing his job. It's the Democrats who are
shrieking at the tops of their lungs to divert attention from the
failures of state and local officials in Louisiana.
If there was a thinking person in government, a call for
impeachment would be screamed from the highest hill.
Fortunately there are thinking people in the government who know better.
The only thing Bush does is kill people. And he does that by pure
stupidity.
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Fred Stone
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I think if we had a three-word message right now it’d be, ‘We can do
better.’ - Howard Dean
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| User: "Steve Knight" |
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| Title: Re: Blame Game Not Working |
10 Sep 2005 02:48:53 AM |
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On Fri, 09 Sep 2005 02:52:57 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
Steve Knight <wooly@sonic.net> wrote in
news:b4p1i1dtg0kibp5l7201ouu9fptjqman4g@4ax.com:
On Thu, 08 Sep 2005 12:01:11 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
http://www.thehill.com/thehill/export/TheHill/Comment/ByronYork/090805.
h tml
Of course people blame George W. Bush for some of the terrible mess
that followed Hurricane Katrina.
Did I miss something?
Isn't he in charge!? Isn't he the President? The guy that's
supposed to see to the best interest of American citizens?
Along with the governors of the states and the mayors of the cities, who
are *not* his subordinates.
I adhere to the 'buck stops here' principal. Political antics don't
mean ***** when an elderly women drowns after four days of begging for
help in a nursing home.
It's a fucking no brainer! A powerful HURRICANE was headed for NO.
It was predicted a day before it hit. It wasn't a surprise. Bush and
all the fucking bureaucracy killed people because there is no
leadership and I don't personally give a ***** about whom's labeled
what.
This tragedy underscores why the smart go into business for
themselves and the losers go into government.
Warlord Steve
BAAWA
www.sonic.net/~wooly
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| User: "Brian E. Clark" |
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| Title: Re: Blame Game Not Working |
10 Sep 2005 04:40:31 PM |
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In article <dmh4i11f0ncmhph4k178pjpajp5lhklfqf@4ax.com>, Steve
Knight said...
This tragedy underscores why the smart go into business for
themselves and the losers go into government.
Unfortunately for the people of New Orleans -- and New York, and
Baghdad -- the neocons did both.
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Brian E. Clark
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