| Topic: |
Religions > Atheism |
| User: |
"Harlow V. A. Campbell" |
| Date: |
20 Oct 2005 02:09:33 PM |
| Object: |
Boo-Fucking-Hoo |
ALEXANDRIA, Virginia (CNN) -- A U.S. citizen accused of participating
in an alleged al Qaeda plot to assassinate President Bush testified
Wednesday he was tortured by Saudi authorities into making confessions
after his arrest in 2003.
Ahmed Omar Abu Ali said he confessed to taking part in terror
activities
*only because he was tortured.*
Those confessions are part of the U.S. government case against him.
Note: The use of asterisks are mine.
Anyone with the name "Ahmed Omar Abu Ali" deserves to be tortured.
~Here's his sign
.
|
|
| User: "lkjahds7yu3q4" |
|
| Title: Re: Boo-Fucking-Hoo |
20 Oct 2005 04:26:57 PM |
|
|
"Harlow V. A. Campbell" <harlowcampbell@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1129835373.486105.279070@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Anyone with the name "Ahmed Omar Abu Ali" deserves to be tortured.
nazi idiot...
.
|
|
|
| User: "Ugly Bob" |
|
| Title: Re: Boo-Fucking-Hoo |
20 Oct 2005 11:06:49 PM |
|
|
"lkjahds7yu3q4" <lkjahds7yu3q4@reality.gov> wrote in message
news:43580ca6$1_3@x-privat.org...
"Harlow V. A. Campbell" <harlowcampbell@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1129835373.486105.279070@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Anyone with the name "Ahmed Omar Abu Ali" deserves to be tortured.
nazi idiot...
Nonsense! He's obviously an Arab.
.
|
|
|
| User: "lkjahds7yu3q4" |
|
| Title: Re: Boo-Fucking-Hoo |
21 Oct 2005 02:01:32 AM |
|
|
"Ugly Bob" <ugly_bob42@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:QbKdnWWVX8z89MXeRVn-iQ@comcast.com...
"lkjahds7yu3q4" <lkjahds7yu3q4@reality.gov> wrote in message
news:43580ca6$1_3@x-privat.org...
"Harlow V. A. Campbell" <harlowcampbell@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1129835373.486105.279070@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Anyone with the name "Ahmed Omar Abu Ali" deserves to be tortured.
nazi idiot...
Nonsense! He's obviously an Arab.
harlow?
lol
.
|
|
|
|
|
|
| User: "kathryn" |
|
| Title: Re: Boo-Fucking-Hoo |
21 Oct 2005 11:18:07 AM |
|
|
Anyone with the name "Ahmed Omar Abu Ali" deserves to be tortured.
~Here's his sign
and thats why the world would be a better place without you in it
.
|
|
|
|
| User: "Meteorite Debris" |
|
| Title: Re: Boo-Fucking-Hoo |
20 Oct 2005 10:01:27 PM |
|
|
On 20 Oct 2005 12:09:33 -0700 the ET form known as Harlow V. A.
Campbell<harlowcampbell@gmail.com> sent a radio signal across the vast
expanse of deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.
Anyone with the name "Ahmed Omar Abu Ali" deserves to be tortured.
That's good. Such criteria could form the basis of the "final
solution". Get your jack boots ready.
--
Remove YOUR_SHOES before replying
apatriot #1, atheist #1417,
Chief EAC prophet
Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2009
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~pk1956/
Apatriotism Yahoo Group
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/apatriotism
Sunday: A day given over by Americans to wishing that they themselves
were dead and in Heaven, and that their neighbors were dead and in
Hell.
-Mencken
.
|
|
|
|
| User: "" |
|
| Title: Re: Boo-Fucking-Hoo |
20 Oct 2005 03:45:48 PM |
|
|
The United States has not permitted torture of suspects as its policy
is a 'rule of law'.
A private individual cannot be an enemy combatant since only Nation
States are recognised to have armies. Anyone else is a common criminal.
Torture historically has a bad record for getting true and useful
information. It has an excellent reputation for getting what you want
to here.
A citizen of a country has a reasonable expectation that his Government
will abide by its own laws in dealing with him and will not hand him
over to a foreign government to enable illegal acts.
If the government is sure of his guilt and the legality of its 'enemy
combatant' legislation they should simply have convened a military
court and had the person convicted and executed. 10 minutes tops for
the 'trial'.
.
|
|
|
| User: "Jos Flachs - skip the aa" |
|
| Title: Re: Boo-Fucking-Hoo |
21 Oct 2005 07:26:13 PM |
|
|
On 20 Oct 2005 13:45:48 -0700, wrote:
The United States has not permitted torture of suspects as its policy
is a 'rule of law'.
They found a nice way around that: Let the rankers do it. Until
someone blows the wistle, watch it as Ray Charles does. Then let the
rankers take the blame.
A private individual cannot be an enemy combatant since only Nation
States are recognised to have armies. Anyone else is a common criminal.
If I recall correctly, most Indian tribes were not considered nation
states. The several 100.000 Pino's who got tortured to death (early
1900's, AFTER the Spanish war) were all common criminals?
Torture historically has a bad record for getting true and useful
information. It has an excellent reputation for getting what you want
to here.
A citizen of a country has a reasonable expectation that his Government
will abide by its own laws in dealing with him and will not hand him
over to a foreign government to enable illegal acts.
That entirely depends. A Vichy Frenchman would not expect that at all,
nor would a present day Iraqi.
If the government is sure of his guilt and the legality of its 'enemy
combatant' legislation they should simply have convened a military
court and had the person convicted and executed. 10 minutes tops for
the 'trial'.
Doesn't work that easy.
.
|
|
|
| User: "Fred Stone" |
|
| Title: Re: Boo-Fucking-Hoo |
22 Oct 2005 06:57:06 AM |
|
|
Jos Flachs <aawcruiseaa@ksc15.th.com (- skip the aa)> wrote in
news:dnrhl1hh36luj8741a4cta0knu30f9f2pv@4ax.com:
On 20 Oct 2005 13:45:48 -0700, wrote:
The United States has not permitted torture of suspects as its policy
is a 'rule of law'.
They found a nice way around that: Let the rankers do it. Until
someone blows the wistle, watch it as Ray Charles does. Then let the
rankers take the blame.
That explains why they were bringing charges about the abuses *before* the
story got splashed all over the media.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"The next time someone on the left wants a date for
withdrawal from Iraq, ask them for a date to give
up on diplomacy with Iran. The Iraq date will be a month
after the Iran date which will be 1 day before Iran is invaded."
- Stehpinkeln
.
|
|
|
|
|
| User: "Twittering One" |
|
| Title: Re: Boo-Fucking-Hoo |
20 Oct 2005 04:15:21 PM |
|
|
Satire, or irony?
Torture happens here in the US.
The gov. does no bother itself with some crimes
for which it is a waste of resources to pursue,
even if illegal.
Legal Triage.
Also, for not for the minnow,
For for the Shark,
Not the street dealer,
The Importer.
.
|
|
|
|
|
| User: "Twittering One" |
|
| Title: Re: Boo-Fucking-Hoo |
20 Oct 2005 03:18:22 PM |
|
|
Torture led him to which of the following:
A. To take part in terrorist activity.
B. To confess to terrorist activity (regardless of guilt).
C. Both A and B.
.
|
|
|
| User: "Twittering One" |
|
| Title: Re: Boo-Fucking-Hoo |
20 Oct 2005 03:20:48 PM |
|
|
Pop Quiz.
If someone you care about,
Or anyone, tells you
They were abused,
Their life is in danger,
What do you do about it?
.
|
|
|
| User: "Ugly Bob" |
|
| Title: Re: Boo-Fucking-Hoo |
20 Oct 2005 11:01:00 PM |
|
|
"Twittering One" <twitteringone@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1129839647.977667.250710@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Pop Quiz.
If someone you care about,
Or anyone, tells you
They were abused,
Their life is in danger,
What do you do about it?
Kill them so that they can come to no futher harm.
.
|
|
|
|
| User: "Twittering One" |
|
| Title: Re: Boo-Fucking-Hoo |
20 Oct 2005 03:23:06 PM |
|
|
If someone you know calls you on the telephone,
Asking for help,
Leaves a message, do you call back?
.
|
|
|
| User: "Ugly Bob" |
|
| Title: Re: Boo-Fucking-Hoo |
20 Oct 2005 11:02:37 PM |
|
|
"Twittering One" <twitteringone@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1129839786.465592.262810@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
If someone you know calls you on the telephone,
Asking for help,
Leaves a message, do you call back?
Yes. I have to find out where they are in order to kill them.
.
|
|
|
|
| User: "Twittering One" |
|
| Title: Re: Boo-Fucking-Hoo |
20 Oct 2005 03:26:01 PM |
|
|
If you fall through The Safety Net,
How far down do you fall,
And where to?
.
|
|
|
| User: "Ugly Bob" |
|
| Title: Re: Boo-Fucking-Hoo |
20 Oct 2005 11:03:23 PM |
|
|
"Twittering One" <twitteringone@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1129839961.634217.28390@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
If you fall through The Safety Net,
How far down do you fall,
All the way.
And where to?
The turtles, of course.
.
|
|
|
|
| User: "Twittering One" |
|
| Title: Re: Boo-Fucking-Hoo |
20 Oct 2005 03:40:48 PM |
|
|
Who is protecting whom?
.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| User: "Douglas Berry" |
|
| Title: Re: Boo-Fucking-Hoo |
20 Oct 2005 05:04:27 PM |
|
|
What's so funny about peace, love and "Harlow V. A. Campbell"
<harlowcampbell@gmail.com> posting the following on 20 Oct 2005
12:09:33 -0700 iin alt.atheism?
ALEXANDRIA, Virginia (CNN) -- A U.S. citizen accused of participating
in an alleged al Qaeda plot to assassinate President Bush testified
Wednesday he was tortured by Saudi authorities into making confessions
after his arrest in 2003.
Ahmed Omar Abu Ali said he confessed to taking part in terror
activities
*only because he was tortured.*
Those confessions are part of the U.S. government case against him.
Note: The use of asterisks are mine.
Anyone with the name "Ahmed Omar Abu Ali" deserves to be tortured.
*sigh*
Let me explain this one more time.. torture is useless as an
interrogation tool because the person being tortured will say whatever
it takes to get the torture to stop.
With my training, I could get you to admit to being an al-Qaeda
operative in a few hours. There's this fun trick with a hand-cranked
field phone. Split the wires, tape one strand to the genitals, the
other to either a nipple or wrap it around a tooth (be sure to tape
the mouth shut!) Crank the phone. After your victim stops screaming
and wetting himself, explain that unless he confessess, you'll
increase the duration.
Think you could take that?
--
Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
.
|
|
|
| User: "Ugly Bob" |
|
| Title: Re: Boo-Fucking-Hoo |
20 Oct 2005 11:13:21 PM |
|
|
"Douglas Berry" <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
news:5t4gl1tlcnn7vtu1kj1a8uugfovdhci7vv@4ax.com...
What's so funny about peace, love and "Harlow V. A. Campbell"
<harlowcampbell@gmail.com> posting the following on 20 Oct 2005
12:09:33 -0700 iin alt.atheism?
ALEXANDRIA, Virginia (CNN) -- A U.S. citizen accused of participating
in an alleged al Qaeda plot to assassinate President Bush testified
Wednesday he was tortured by Saudi authorities into making confessions
after his arrest in 2003.
Ahmed Omar Abu Ali said he confessed to taking part in terror
activities
*only because he was tortured.*
Those confessions are part of the U.S. government case against him.
Note: The use of asterisks are mine.
Anyone with the name "Ahmed Omar Abu Ali" deserves to be tortured.
*sigh*
Let me explain this one more time.. torture is useless as an
interrogation tool because the person being tortured will say whatever
it takes to get the torture to stop.
With my training, I could get you to admit to being an al-Qaeda
operative in a few hours. There's this fun trick with a hand-cranked
field phone. Split the wires, tape one strand to the genitals, the
other to either a nipple or wrap it around a tooth (be sure to tape
the mouth shut!) Crank the phone. After your victim stops screaming
and wetting himself, explain that unless he confessess, you'll
increase the duration.
Think you could take that?
I dunno, I can crank that ol' EE-8 for quite some time.
.
|
|
|
|
| User: "Robibnikoff" |
|
| Title: Re: Boo-Fucking-Hoo |
21 Oct 2005 08:05:26 AM |
|
|
"Douglas Berry" <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
news:5t4gl1tlcnn7vtu1kj1a8uugfovdhci7vv@4ax.com...
What's so funny about peace, love and "Harlow V. A. Campbell"
<harlowcampbell@gmail.com> posting the following on 20 Oct 2005
12:09:33 -0700 iin alt.atheism?
ALEXANDRIA, Virginia (CNN) -- A U.S. citizen accused of participating
in an alleged al Qaeda plot to assassinate President Bush testified
Wednesday he was tortured by Saudi authorities into making confessions
after his arrest in 2003.
Ahmed Omar Abu Ali said he confessed to taking part in terror
activities
*only because he was tortured.*
Those confessions are part of the U.S. government case against him.
Note: The use of asterisks are mine.
Anyone with the name "Ahmed Omar Abu Ali" deserves to be tortured.
*sigh*
Let me explain this one more time.. torture is useless as an
interrogation tool because the person being tortured will say whatever
it takes to get the torture to stop.
With my training, I could get you to admit to being an al-Qaeda
operative in a few hours. There's this fun trick with a hand-cranked
field phone. Split the wires, tape one strand to the genitals, the
other to either a nipple or wrap it around a tooth (be sure to tape
the mouth shut!) Crank the phone. After your victim stops screaming
and wetting himself, explain that unless he confessess, you'll
increase the duration.
Think you could take that?
Hell, no! :(
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
Science doesn't burn people at the stake for disagreeing - Vic Sagerquist
.
|
|
|
|
| User: "Hagar" |
|
| Title: Re: Boo-Fucking-Hoo |
20 Oct 2005 05:12:27 PM |
|
|
"Douglas Berry" <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
news:5t4gl1tlcnn7vtu1kj1a8uugfovdhci7vv@4ax.com...
What's so funny about peace, love and "Harlow V. A. Campbell"
<harlowcampbell@gmail.com> posting the following on 20 Oct 2005
12:09:33 -0700 iin alt.atheism?
ALEXANDRIA, Virginia (CNN) -- A U.S. citizen accused of participating
in an alleged al Qaeda plot to assassinate President Bush testified
Wednesday he was tortured by Saudi authorities into making confessions
after his arrest in 2003.
Ahmed Omar Abu Ali said he confessed to taking part in terror
activities
*only because he was tortured.*
Those confessions are part of the U.S. government case against him.
Note: The use of asterisks are mine.
Anyone with the name "Ahmed Omar Abu Ali" deserves to be tortured.
*sigh*
Let me explain this one more time.. torture is useless as an
interrogation tool because the person being tortured will say whatever
it takes to get the torture to stop.
With my training, I could get you to admit to being an al-Qaeda
operative in a few hours. There's this fun trick with a hand-cranked
field phone. Split the wires, tape one strand to the genitals, the
other to either a nipple or wrap it around a tooth (be sure to tape
the mouth shut!) Crank the phone. After your victim stops screaming
and wetting himself, explain that unless he confessess, you'll
increase the duration.
Think you could take that?
The RED lead is Positive, the BLACK one is Negative ... now get cranking !!
.
|
|
|
| User: "Twittering One" |
|
| Title: Re: Boo-Fucking-Hoo |
20 Oct 2005 05:37:12 PM |
|
|
ALEXANDRIA, Virginia (CNN) -- A U.S. citizen accused of participating
in an alleged al Qaeda plot to assassinate President Bush testified
Wednesday he was tortured by Saudi authorities into making confessions
after his arrest in 2003.
Olive, Clea, or Justine?
.
|
|
|
| User: "Twittering One" |
|
| Title: Re: Boo-Fucking-Hoo |
20 Oct 2005 05:39:29 PM |
|
|
Balthazar wishes to know.
.
|
|
|
| User: "Twittering One" |
|
| Title: Re: Boo-Fucking-Hoo |
20 Oct 2005 05:47:43 PM |
|
|
"Olive, Clea, or Justine ~
Balthazar wishes to know ...
Your source ~ ?"
~ Trefethen
"Sir Cumference knows,
Age Group classified, she later pleaded ignoranc,
But she personally pleaded ...
I am very embarassed,
Just see ~
4 + 4 = Not always 4,
5.
4 you do what you have to do to survive.
Sex, Lies, & Betrayal."
~ White Chalk
.
|
|
|
| User: "Twittering One" |
|
| Title: Re: Boo-Fucking-Hoo |
20 Oct 2005 05:50:18 PM |
|
|
.... or ask
A ...k.
.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| User: "Meteorite Debris" |
|
| Title: Re: Boo-Fucking-Hoo |
20 Oct 2005 10:15:00 PM |
|
|
On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 22:04:27 GMT the ET form known as Douglas
Berry<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> sent a radio signal across
the vast expanse of deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.
What's so funny about peace, love and "Harlow V. A. Campbell"
<harlowcampbell@gmail.com> posting the following on 20 Oct 2005
12:09:33 -0700 iin alt.atheism?
ALEXANDRIA, Virginia (CNN) -- A U.S. citizen accused of participating
in an alleged al Qaeda plot to assassinate President Bush testified
Wednesday he was tortured by Saudi authorities into making confessions
after his arrest in 2003.
Ahmed Omar Abu Ali said he confessed to taking part in terror
activities
*only because he was tortured.*
Those confessions are part of the U.S. government case against him.
Note: The use of asterisks are mine.
Anyone with the name "Ahmed Omar Abu Ali" deserves to be tortured.
*sigh*
Let me explain this one more time.. torture is useless as an
interrogation tool because the person being tortured will say whatever
it takes to get the torture to stop.
With my training, I could get you to admit to being an al-Qaeda
operative in a few hours. There's this fun trick with a hand-cranked
field phone. Split the wires, tape one strand to the genitals, the
other to either a nipple or wrap it around a tooth (be sure to tape
the mouth shut!) Crank the phone. After your victim stops screaming
and wetting himself, explain that unless he confessess, you'll
increase the duration.
Think you could take that?
There is also another flaw with torture when it comes to the real deal
real terrorists. Suicide bombers prepare themselves mentally to die or
to suffer terribly in the unintended event of survival. Zealots are
not broken by torture but are affirmed in their beliefs. They realise
that although they can be made to suffer physically by the hands of
others that mental suffering can be a matter of choice that can be
deny others' influence.
Only the falsely accused or the politically defined "terrorists" will
confess under torture to what they probably did not do.
--
Remove YOUR_SHOES before replying
apatriot #1, atheist #1417,
Chief EAC prophet
Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2009
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~pk1956/
Apatriotism Yahoo Group
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/apatriotism
Sunday: A day given over by Americans to wishing that they themselves
were dead and in Heaven, and that their neighbors were dead and in
Hell.
-Mencken
.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Related Articles |
|
|
