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"Yang" |
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10 Jan 2004 05:04:22 PM |
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Book: Bush Planned Iraq Invasion Before 911 |
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=564&ncid=564&e=2&u=/nm/20040110/ts_nm/people_oneill_dc_6
NEW YORK (Reuters) - Former Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill charges in
a new book that President Bush (news - web sites) entered office in
January 2001 intent on invading Iraq (news - web sites) and was in
search of a way to go about it.
O'Neill, who was fired in December 2002 as part of a shake-up of
Bush's economic team, has become the first major Bush administration
insider to launch an attack on the president.
He likened Bush at Cabinet meetings to "a blind man in a room full of
deaf people," according to excerpts from a CBS interview to promote a
book by former Wall Street Journal reporter Ron Suskind, "The Price of
Loyalty."
To go to war, Bush used the argument that Iraq possessed weapons of
mass destruction and had to be stopped in the post-Sept. 11, 2001,
world. The weapons have never been found.
"From the very beginning, there was a conviction that Saddam Hussein
(news - web sites) was a bad person and that he needed to go," O'Neill
said in the "60 Minutes" interview scheduled to air on Sunday. "For
me, the notion of pre-emption, that the U.S. has the unilateral right
to do whatever we decide to do, is a really huge leap."
CBS released excerpts from the interview on Friday and Saturday.
The former treasury secretary and other White House insiders gave
Suskind documents that in the first three months of 2001 revealed the
Bush administration was examining military options for removing Saddam
Hussein, CBS said.
"There are memos," Suskind told CBS. "One of them marked 'secret' says
'Plan for Post-Saddam Iraq."'
Another Pentagon (news - web sites) document entitled "Foreign suitors
for Iraqi Oil Field Contracts" talks about contractors from 40
countries and which ones have interest in Iraq, Suskind said.
BENT ON WAR
O'Neill was also quoted in the book as saying the president was
determined to find a reason to go to war and he was surprised that
nobody on the National Security Council questioned why Iraq should be
invaded.
"It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it,"
said O'Neill. "The president saying 'Go find me a way to do this."'
White House spokesman Scott McClellan rejected O'Neill's remarks.
"We appreciate his service. While we're not in the business of doing
book reviews, it appears that the world according to Mr. O'Neill is
more about trying to justify his own opinions than looking at the
reality of the results we are achieving on behalf of the American
people," McClellan said Saturday.
Democratic presidential candidate Howard Dean (news - web sites)
accused Bush of using questionable pretenses to justify war with Iraq.
"The country deserves to know -- and the president needs to answer --
why the American people were presented with misleading or manufactured
intelligence as to why going to war with Iraq was necessary. Secretary
O'Neill's comments only underscore the continuing importance that
these outstanding questions be answered," Dean said in a statement.
O'Neill also said the president did not ask him a single question
during their first one-on-one meeting, which lasted an hour. The
president's lack of engagement left his advisers with "little more
than hunches about what the president might think," O'Neil told "60
Minutes."
Suskind's book, whose full title is "The Price of Loyalty: George W.
Bush, the White House, and the Education of Paul O'Neill," uses
interviews with O'Neill, dozens of White House insiders and 19,000
documents provided by O'Neill.
O'Neill, who was fired due to disagreements over tax cuts, spent a
difficult two years in Washington, joining the Bush administration
with a background as a no-nonsense corporate executive.
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Yang
a.a. #28
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Socerey Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec
The Bush 'balanced' budget: -525 billion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: -3 million jobs and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -495 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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| User: "Clayton...Tpols Pong Fa Man Bitch" |
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| Title: Re: Bush Planned Iraq Invasion Before 911 |
10 Jan 2004 06:10:41 PM |
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"Yang" <eacmole@SPAMmail.com> wrote in message
news:400084ae.1395812@news.cox.net...
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=564&ncid=564&e=2&u=/nm/20040110/ts_nm/people_oneill_dc_6
NEW YORK (Reuters) - Former Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill charges in
a new book that President Bush (news - web sites) entered office in
January 2001 intent on invading Iraq (news - web sites) and was in
search of a way to go about it.
He's been planning it since his Daddy fucked up the first Gulf War. I'm
betting that has been the greatest motivation in his life is to do exactly
what he's doing now...no matter the cost. Saddam....white whale with a
moustache!!!
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| User: "Christopher Helms" |
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10 Jan 2004 06:26:05 PM |
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Clayton...T'pol's Pong Fa Man ***** wrote in message
<400093ca$0$26113$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au>...
"Yang" <eacmole@SPAMmail.com> wrote in message
news:400084ae.1395812@news.cox.net...
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=564&ncid=564&e=2&u=/nm/2004
0110/ts_nm/people_oneill_dc_6
NEW YORK (Reuters) - Former Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill charges in
a new book that President Bush (news - web sites) entered office in
January 2001 intent on invading Iraq (news - web sites) and was in
search of a way to go about it.
He's been planning it since his Daddy fucked up the first Gulf War. I'm
betting that has been the greatest motivation in his life is to do exactly
what he's doing now...no matter the cost. Saddam....white whale with a
moustache!!!
If you want to experience Synchronicity, rent Moby *****--the 1956 version
with Gregory Peck--and substitute "evildoers" or "terrorists" for Moby *****.
That movie will tell you everything you will ever need to know about the
George W Bush presidency. In 100 years high school students will be watching
it in history class to gain insight into Dubyas thinking process.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Book: Bush Planned Iraq Invasion Before 911 |
11 Jan 2004 01:25:40 AM |
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In article <400084ae.1395812@news.cox.net>,
(Yang) wrote:
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=564&ncid=564&e=2&u=/nm/2004011
0/ts_nm/people_oneill_dc_6
NEW YORK (Reuters) - Former Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill charges in
a new book that President Bush (news - web sites) entered office in
January 2001 intent on invading Iraq (news - web sites) and was in
search of a way to go about it.
This shouldn't be news. The Neocons were plotting it long before Bush
even got in:
http://www.newamericancentury.org/iraqclintonletter.htm
Note the signatures at the bottom of the letter.
And this one:
http://www.newamericancentury.org/statementofprinciples.htm
They needed a front guy in the White House, someone who was not smart
enough to see through their schemes, and not strong enough or willing
to oppose them, and that's how we got Dubya.
--
John Hachmann, aa #1782
- Question authority. Now more than ever. -
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| User: "JTEM" |
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| Title: Re: Book: Bush Planned Iraq Invasion Before 911 |
11 Jan 2004 01:48:48 AM |
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"johac" <jhachm@remove.ixpres.com> wrote
This shouldn't be news. The Neocons were plotting it long
before Bush even got in:
Yeah, and how long was it before they noticed the "Sixteen
words" in his state of the union address, and how much
longer will it be before they notice the other claims?
It took them two months to notice that the Whitehouse outed
a CIA operative, and they forgot about it within a few
headlines.
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| User: "Leland Milton Goldblatt PhD" |
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| Title: Re: Book: Bush Planned Iraq Invasion Before 911 |
11 Jan 2004 01:06:19 PM |
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"JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<VcydnU3gFcyUYp3dRVn-sQ@comcast.com>...
"johac" <jhachm@remove.ixpres.com> wrote
This shouldn't be news. The Neocons were plotting it long
before Bush even got in:
Yeah, and how long was it before they noticed the "Sixteen
words" in his state of the union address, and how much
longer will it be before they notice the other claims?
It took them two months to notice that the Whitehouse outed
a CIA operative, and they forgot about it within a few
headlines.
Without prejudice; Dr. Goldblatt pontificates ®:
We still need a Special Counsel for the Outing of CIA Operative and
the Reporter should be jail, J Edgar Ascroft has put other reporters
in jail for with holding sources, why not conservative journalist Bob
Novak?
Why did the administration start drawing up plans to invade Iraq the
minute it heard a plane had crashed into the World Trade Center? Why
is ***** Cheney going around saying that Iraq is the "geographic base
of the terrorists who have had us under assault now for many years,
but most especially on 9/11?" What the hell kinda crack is George W.
Bush on exactly? Give me a break. You know, I remember the good old
days when Our Great Leader was insisting that he would be avoiding
"even the appearance of impropriety." Who would have thought that
after making White House employees take an oath that they would all be
an "example of humility and decency and fairness," Bush would go on to
consistently lie to the American people, alienate our long-standing
foreign allies, and rush us into a quagmire which has become a death
trap for American soldiers, a financial black hole, and from which
there is no easy means of escape? Oh yeah, not to mention swagger
around on an aircraft carrier with his balls hanging out.
Shalom,
---Prof. Leland Milton Goldblatt, Ph.D. ®
Copyright © 2003
http://www.prof.faithweb.com
http://drgoldblatt.blogspot.com/
(773) 731-1100
HAIL to the THIEF! Not my president. IMPEACH HE SUPREME COURT!
Thanks Bush! Poverty Rises, Income Down, Census Says, For the SECOND
STRAIGHT YEAR! 9/27
It seems Bush (appointed by the United States Supreme Court) is
taking further steps to avoid "even the appearance of impropriety" by
not telling Congress where almost half of the $4 billion spent each
month on Iraq is going. Just to make this absolutely clear, about $1.5
billion a month of the administration's spending is simply
disappearing, and now Dubya wants us to cough up another $87 billion -
which he also doesn't want to have to account for. Okay, so we know
that the money isn't going to cover the cost of meals for wounded
soldiers - they have to pull themselves up by the bootstraps (which
can be difficult if you're missing a limb). And we know it's not going
towards finding weapons of mass destruction, because there aren't any.
So where is it going?
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| User: "JTEM" |
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11 Jan 2004 02:09:57 PM |
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"Leland Milton Goldblatt PhD" wrote
Why is ***** Cheney going around saying that
Iraq is the "geographic base of the terrorists
who have had us under assault now for many
years, but most especially on 9/11?"
I dunno. Why was he saying that Clinton's policies on
Iraq were too tough, that the U.S. should lift Sanctions
against Iraq?
At least that's what he was saying in 2001, before 9/11.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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11 Jan 2004 05:43:59 PM |
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On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 23:25:40 -0800, johac <jhachm@remove.ixpres.com>
posted to alt.atheism:
http://www.newamericancentury.org/statementofprinciples.htm
"Such a Reaganite policy of military strength and moral clarity may
not be fashionable today. But it is necessary if the United States is
to build on the successes of this past century and to ensure our
security and our greatness in the next."
And what did that policy get us? 9/11, that's what.
--
"Does it ever amaze anyone else how little faith some heterosexuals have
in heterosexuality? It's supposed to be this god-given human instinct
that only the warped and perverted ever stray from; but, it seems, if we
once tell our straight children a message even as mild as "some people
are gay, and that's all right," that'll be enough to send lil' Suzy into
the arms of women forever. It's a wonder the race has survived this
long, really..."
- Charles M Seaton (21 Dec 199
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
rukbat at optonline dot net
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| User: "Will" |
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12 Jan 2004 12:25:06 AM |
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Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message news:<9sn300l0s42f31fmircnmrcojo9peaoqjf@Pern.rk>...
On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 23:25:40 -0800, johac <jhachm@remove.ixpres.com>
posted to alt.atheism:
http://www.newamericancentury.org/statementofprinciples.htm
"Such a Reaganite policy of military strength and moral clarity may
not be fashionable today. But it is necessary if the United States is
to build on the successes of this past century and to ensure our
security and our greatness in the next."
And what did that policy get us? 9/11, that's what.
Reaganite policy of military strength and moral clarity? The
comic-opera invasion of Grenada (and the glorious victory over the
Cuban construction workers)? The botched bombing of Libya in which we
managed to kill one of Quadaffi's pre-teen children? The glorious
debacle in Lebanon, when 260 Marines were murdered in their sleep by a
truck bomber? The Iran-Contra Affair in which Reganite administrators
stole US armaments, sold them to our blood enemy, Iran, then embezzled
the receipts to support the defeated rump of Tacho Somoza's army of
extortionists and drug dealers? Yes, indeed, those were the Neo-con
glory days. I'm glad they're all so proud.
Will
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| User: "Mitchell Holman" |
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| Title: Re: Book: Bush Planned Iraq Invasion Before 911 |
12 Jan 2004 06:33:09 AM |
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(Will) wrote in
news:e6e41727.0401112225.231055ff@posting.google.com:
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
news:<9sn300l0s42f31fmircnmrcojo9peaoqjf@Pern.rk>...
On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 23:25:40 -0800, johac <jhachm@remove.ixpres.com>
posted to alt.atheism:
http://www.newamericancentury.org/statementofprinciples.htm
"Such a Reaganite policy of military strength and moral clarity may
not be fashionable today. But it is necessary if the United States is
to build on the successes of this past century and to ensure our
security and our greatness in the next."
And what did that policy get us? 9/11, that's what.
Reaganite policy of military strength and moral clarity? The
comic-opera invasion of Grenada (and the glorious victory over the
Cuban construction workers)? The botched bombing of Libya in which we
managed to kill one of Quadaffi's pre-teen children? The glorious
debacle in Lebanon, when 260 Marines were murdered in their sleep by a
truck bomber? The Iran-Contra Affair in which Reganite administrators
stole US armaments, sold them to our blood enemy, Iran, then embezzled
the receipts to support the defeated rump of Tacho Somoza's army of
extortionists and drug dealers? Yes, indeed, those were the Neo-con
glory days. I'm glad they're all so proud.
Reagan sold arms to Iran to fight Iraq, and then
sold arms to Iraq to fight Iran. Both were losers,
and the only winners were Reagan's defense contractor
buddies.
"Morning in America", indeed.
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| User: "Will" |
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12 Jan 2004 10:20:03 PM |
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Mitchell Holman <ta2eeneNoEmail@comcast.com> wrote in message news:<Xns946E436A754F5ta2eenew@63.240.76.16>...
wryan@mindspring.com (Will) wrote in
news:e6e41727.0401112225.231055ff@posting.google.com:
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
news:<9sn300l0s42f31fmircnmrcojo9peaoqjf@Pern.rk>...
On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 23:25:40 -0800, johac <jhachm@remove.ixpres.com>
posted to alt.atheism:
http://www.newamericancentury.org/statementofprinciples.htm
"Such a Reaganite policy of military strength and moral clarity may
not be fashionable today. But it is necessary if the United States is
to build on the successes of this past century and to ensure our
security and our greatness in the next."
And what did that policy get us? 9/11, that's what.
Reaganite policy of military strength and moral clarity? The
comic-opera invasion of Grenada (and the glorious victory over the
Cuban construction workers)? The botched bombing of Libya in which we
managed to kill one of Quadaffi's pre-teen children? The glorious
debacle in Lebanon, when 260 Marines were murdered in their sleep by a
truck bomber? The Iran-Contra Affair in which Reganite administrators
stole US armaments, sold them to our blood enemy, Iran, then embezzled
the receipts to support the defeated rump of Tacho Somoza's army of
extortionists and drug dealers? Yes, indeed, those were the Neo-con
glory days. I'm glad they're all so proud.
Reagan sold arms to Iran to fight Iraq, and then
sold arms to Iraq to fight Iran. Both were losers,
and the only winners were Reagan's defense contractor
buddies.
"Morning in America", indeed.
There were other winners as well. North and his buddies never made an
accounting of the cash they received, except to say that it was turned
over to the "Contras." Somoza's old generals now live in lavish
seclusion in Florida, happily retired on the bounty of Reagan's clever
National Security advisors and their drug profits.
Will
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Book: Bush Planned Iraq Invasion Before 911 |
11 Jan 2004 11:44:04 PM |
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In article <9sn300l0s42f31fmircnmrcojo9peaoqjf@Pern.rk>,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 23:25:40 -0800, johac <jhachm@remove.ixpres.com>
posted to alt.atheism:
http://www.newamericancentury.org/statementofprinciples.htm
"Such a Reaganite policy of military strength and moral clarity may
not be fashionable today. But it is necessary if the United States is
to build on the successes of this past century and to ensure our
security and our greatness in the next."
And what did that policy get us? 9/11, that's what.
And nearly 500 dead and 3000 wounded in a war that we didn't need to
fight.
--
John Hachmann, aa #1782
- Question authority. Now more than ever. -
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| User: "Nothing" |
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10 Jan 2004 07:02:14 PM |
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On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 23:04:22 GMT, (Yang) wrote:
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=564&ncid=564&e=2&u=/nm/20040110/ts_nm/people_oneill_dc_6
NEW YORK (Reuters) - Former Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill charges in
a new book that President Bush (news - web sites) entered office in
January 2001 intent on invading Iraq (news - web sites) and was in
search of a way to go about it.
Of course Bill Clinton was intent on screwing interns in the oval
office. And Bill was in search of ways to get into Monica's panties.
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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| Title: Re: Book: Bush Planned Iraq Invasion Before 911 |
10 Jan 2004 08:04:09 PM |
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"Nothing" <nothing@nothing.com> wrote in message
news:tv71009gtppkdg0j3q568olfnur7ehcimj@4ax.com...
On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 23:04:22 GMT, (Yang) wrote:
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=564&ncid=564&e=2&u=/nm/2004
0110/ts_nm/people_oneill_dc_6
NEW YORK (Reuters) - Former Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill charges in
a new book that President Bush (news - web sites) entered office in
January 2001 intent on invading Iraq (news - web sites) and was in
search of a way to go about it.
Of course Bill Clinton was intent on screwing interns in the oval
office. And Bill was in search of ways to get into Monica's panties.
Which rarely gets a lot of people killed or costs billions of dollars.
You do understand the difference between fucking and killing don't you?
I'd ask which you were more against but the former seems to cause more
problems than the latter with christian movie buffs.
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| User: "duke" |
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11 Jan 2004 09:01:20 AM |
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On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 02:04:09 GMT, "Mike Painter" <mdotpainter@att.net> wrote:
You do understand the difference between fucking and killing don't you?
Of course, the 'rats blow jobs caused many killings.
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| User: "loaferboss" |
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10 Jan 2004 08:55:36 PM |
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in article ta2Mb.11758$6y6.339836@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net, Mike
Painter at wrote on 1/10/04 9:04 PM:
"Nothing" <nothing@nothing.com> wrote in message
news:tv71009gtppkdg0j3q568olfnur7ehcimj@4ax.com...
On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 23:04:22 GMT, (Yang) wrote:
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=564&ncid=564&e=2&u=/nm/2004
0110/ts_nm/people_oneill_dc_6
NEW YORK (Reuters) - Former Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill charges in
a new book that President Bush (news - web sites) entered office in
January 2001 intent on invading Iraq (news - web sites) and was in
search of a way to go about it.
Of course Bill Clinton was intent on screwing interns in the oval
office. And Bill was in search of ways to get into Monica's panties.
Which rarely gets a lot of people killed or costs billions of dollars.
You do understand the difference between fucking and killing don't you?
I'd ask which you were more against but the former seems to cause more
problems than the latter with christian movie buffs.
Bless their hearts - confronted with the truth, they always use Clinton ...
pathetic little creatures...
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| User: "Adam Marczyk" |
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10 Jan 2004 11:11:43 PM |
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Nothing <nothing@nothing.com> wrote in message
news:tv71009gtppkdg0j3q568olfnur7ehcimj@4ax.com...
On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 23:04:22 GMT, (Yang) wrote:
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=564&ncid=564&e=2&u=/nm/20040110/ts_nm/people_oneill_dc_6
NEW YORK (Reuters) - Former Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill charges in
a new book that President Bush (news - web sites) entered office in
January 2001 intent on invading Iraq (news - web sites) and was in
search of a way to go about it.
Of course Bill Clinton was intent on screwing interns in the oval
office. And Bill was in search of ways to get into Monica's panties.
In the first place, no one died as a result of that, whereas Bush's actions
have resulted in the deaths and woundings of thousands, without so far
turning up any of the weapons we supposedly went to war to find. In the
second place, for truth's sake, the man's been out of office for nearly
four years now. Isn't it about time you people gave this up and moved on?
How much longer do you plan to obsess about Clinton?
--
"We have loved the stars too fondly | a.a. #2001
to be fearful of the night." | http://www.ebonmusings.org
--Tombstone epitaph of | e-mail: ebonmuse!hotmail.com
two amateur astronomers, | ICQ: 8777843
quoted in Carl Sagan's _Cosmos_ | PGP Key ID: 0x5C66F737
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| User: "Jos Flachs" |
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| Title: Re: Book: Bush Planned Iraq Invasion Before 911 |
11 Jan 2004 01:27:24 AM |
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On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 05:11:43 GMT, "Adam Marczyk"
<ebonmuse@deletethis.hotmail.com> wrote:
Nothing <nothing@nothing.com> wrote in message
news:tv71009gtppkdg0j3q568olfnur7ehcimj@4ax.com...
On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 23:04:22 GMT, (Yang) wrote:
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=564&ncid=564&e=2&u=/nm/20040110/ts_nm/people_oneill_dc_6
NEW YORK (Reuters) - Former Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill charges in
a new book that President Bush (news - web sites) entered office in
January 2001 intent on invading Iraq (news - web sites) and was in
search of a way to go about it.
Of course Bill Clinton was intent on screwing interns in the oval
office. And Bill was in search of ways to get into Monica's panties.
In the first place, no one died as a result of that, whereas Bush's actions
have resulted in the deaths and woundings of thousands, without so far
turning up any of the weapons we supposedly went to war to find. In the
second place, for truth's sake, the man's been out of office for nearly
four years now. Isn't it about time you people gave this up and moved on?
How much longer do you plan to obsess about Clinton?
With an ***** wipe like Baby Bush, he has very little option to whine
about anything else.
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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| Title: Re: Book: Bush Planned Iraq Invasion Before 911 |
10 Jan 2004 06:22:14 PM |
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On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 20:02:14 -0500, Nothing <nothing@nothing.com>
wrote:
On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 23:04:22 GMT, (Yang) wrote:
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=564&ncid=564&e=2&u=/nm/20040110/ts_nm/people_oneill_dc_6
NEW YORK (Reuters) - Former Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill charges in
a new book that President Bush (news - web sites) entered office in
January 2001 intent on invading Iraq (news - web sites) and was in
search of a way to go about it.
Of course Bill Clinton was intent on screwing interns in the oval
office. And Bill was in search of ways to get into Monica's panties.
Actually it was the other way round. She was there to get her
presidential knee-pads. Saving a semen-stained dress sounds just like
my university room-mate who kept the panties of his conquests. If it
was genuine.
And of course we all knew he was a philanderer before he was elected.
The self-righteous hypocritical mud-slingers made sure of that - and
he still got elected. It didn't matter to the electorate.
But of course getting a ***** (he didn't screw her) is merely in
bad taste, and a problem between him, her and his wife. It is not a
war crime. And lying about an affair is hardly the same as lying to
the world to fabricate a reason for an unprovoked war of aggression
that kills thousands of civilians, and an order of magnitude more
soldiers defending their country.
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| User: "Yang" |
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| Title: Re: Book: Bush Planned Iraq Invasion Before 911 |
10 Jan 2004 06:58:16 PM |
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On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 20:02:14 -0500, Nothing <nothing@nothing.com>
wrote:
On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 23:04:22 GMT, (Yang) wrote:
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=564&ncid=564&e=2&u=/nm/20040110/ts_nm/people_oneill_dc_6
NEW YORK (Reuters) - Former Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill charges in
a new book that President Bush (news - web sites) entered office in
January 2001 intent on invading Iraq (news - web sites) and was in
search of a way to go about it.
Of course Bill Clinton was intent on screwing interns in the oval
office. And Bill was in search of ways to get into Monica's panties.
And how many GI died as a result, you ***** chickenhawk traitor?
-----
Yang
a.a. #28
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Socerey Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec
The Bush 'balanced' budget: -525 billion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: -3 million jobs and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -495 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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| User: "Dave H." |
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| Title: Re: Book: Bush Planned Iraq Invasion Before 911 |
10 Jan 2004 10:05:32 PM |
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Excuse Top Post:
Yang,
I am very confused by your constant proselytizing.
It seems to me that a hard core Xian, and you, would make multiple posts
with a subject line that you constantly post with.
You know, you are an *****: I say that as an atheist, and as a person
who is actually a little, just a little, right of center.
I honestly know that extreemism is equal to failure, and fanaticism is
just that, fanaticism: You are no more credible than Pat Robertson.
I am fanatically anti-fanatic, and you are such an ***** for the left
that if we put you on one end of a scale, and Pat Robertson on the other,
all things would measure as an equality. Put THAT into your economics
***** calculator and smoke it.
Well, buddy, ***** you.
As far as your doctorate goes, I seem to remember you defending MLK
based solely on his doctorate. That was a doctorate in THEISM, by-the-way.
So you also defend that, Hmmmm.... You can now call me a racist even though
you have no idea on how I hire and what race I am.
I have worked around so many people with doctorates that the title
doesn't impress me anymore. I have met many PhD's that are as stoopid and
perhaps less stoopid as YOU!
Hee he...
Thank you for this opportunity to speak FREELY as an atheist with an
opinion.
Sincerely,
Big Dave
Veteran, Democrat, and atheist.
"Yang" <> wrote in message
news:40009f8f.8277218@news.cox.net...
On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 20:02:14 -0500, Nothing <nothing@nothing.com>
wrote:
On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 23:04:22 GMT, (Yang) wrote:
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=564&ncid=564&e=2&u=/nm/200
40110/ts_nm/people_oneill_dc_6
NEW YORK (Reuters) - Former Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill charges in
a new book that President Bush (news - web sites) entered office in
January 2001 intent on invading Iraq (news - web sites) and was in
search of a way to go about it.
Of course Bill Clinton was intent on screwing interns in the oval
office. And Bill was in search of ways to get into Monica's panties.
And how many GI died as a result, you ***** chickenhawk traitor?
-----
Yang
a.a. #28
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Socerey Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec
The Bush 'balanced' budget: -525 billion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: -3 million jobs and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -495 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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| User: "Adam Marczyk" |
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| Title: Re: Book: Bush Planned Iraq Invasion Before 911 |
10 Jan 2004 11:13:50 PM |
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Dave H. <dhaapala@houston.barf.rr.com> wrote in message
news:gY3Mb.35453$WS1.30922@fe1.texas.rr.com...
Excuse Top Post:
Yang,
I am very confused by your constant proselytizing.
It seems to me that a hard core Xian, and you, would make multiple
posts with a subject line that you constantly post with.
You know, you are an *****: I say that as an atheist, and as a
person who is actually a little, just a little, right of center.
I honestly know that extreemism is equal to failure, and fanaticism
is just that, fanaticism: You are no more credible than Pat Robertson.
Since when does having a strongly held opinion on a subject make a person
not credible? I admit I don't see the point of these ad nauseam posts about
Bush to a.a. - it's not as if any of us need to be convinced of these
things - but Yang has as much right to post to this group, or any other, as
anyone else. If you don't like that, feel free not to read his posts.
--
"We have loved the stars too fondly | a.a. #2001
to be fearful of the night." | http://www.ebonmusings.org
--Tombstone epitaph of | e-mail: ebonmuse!hotmail.com
two amateur astronomers, | ICQ: 8777843
quoted in Carl Sagan's _Cosmos_ | PGP Key ID: 0x5C66F737
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| User: "Yang" |
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| Title: Re: Book: Bush Planned Iraq Invasion Before 911 |
10 Jan 2004 10:38:21 PM |
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On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 04:05:32 GMT, "Dave H."
<dhaapala@houston.barf.rr.com> wrote:
Excuse Top Post:
Yang,
I am very confused by your constant proselytizing.
You are easily confused.
It seems to me that a hard core Xian, and you, would make multiple posts
with a subject line that you constantly post with.
You know, you are an *****: I say that as an atheist, and as a person
who is actually a little, just a little, right of center
You know, you are a moron. You hate all Christians and Muslims because
they happen to be Christians and Muslims. I have nothing in common
with you.
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=yang+%2328+alt.atheism+haapala&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=3f35ce35.15228453%40news.cox.net&rnum=2
I have worked around so many people with doctorates that the title
doesn't impress me anymore. I have met many PhD's that are as stoopid and
perhaps less stoopid as YOU!
Hee he...
I have seen many janitor cleaning up my company, and that are
certainly more intelligen than you. Now take your bullhit lies and
shove it up your *****.
-----
Yang
a.a. #28
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Socerey Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec
The Bush 'balanced' budget: -525 billion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: -3 million jobs and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -495 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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| User: "Dave H." |
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| Title: Re: Book: Bush Planned Iraq Invasion Before 911 |
11 Jan 2004 12:05:10 AM |
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"Yang" <eacmole@SPAMmail.com> wrote in message
news:4000d14b.21009093@news.cox.net...
On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 04:05:32 GMT, "Dave H."
<dhaapala@houston.barf.rr.com> wrote:
Excuse Top Post:
Yang,
I am very confused by your constant proselytizing.
You are easily confused.
OK, fine.
It seems to me that a hard core Xian, and you, would make multiple
posts
with a subject line that you constantly post with.
You know, you are an *****: I say that as an atheist, and as a
person
who is actually a little, just a little, right of center
You know, you are a moron. You hate all Christians and Muslims because
they happen to be Christians and Muslims. I have nothing in common
with you.
I didn't say that, but if you did, well...
You see, I don't care if you manufacture things I might have said. The
only thing I have to say about you is that you are a spoiled little child
with a flag called a PhD that you wave around as some sort of authoritative
basis for espousing all of the ***** you believe in. (Just like Pat
Robertson, et. al.)
Godless, I am. You? Well, I dunno...
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=yang+%2328+alt.atheism+haapala&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=3f35ce35.15228453%40news.cox.net&rnum=2
I have worked around so many people with doctorates that the title
doesn't impress me anymore. I have met many PhD's that are as stoopid and
perhaps less stoopid as YOU!
Hee he...
I have seen many janitor cleaning up my company, and that are
certainly more intelligen than you. Now take your bullhit lies and
shove it up your *****.
Is this the intellectual writing one would expect from a Doctor?
You do economics????!!!!???
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| User: "Yang" |
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| Title: Re: Book: Bush Planned Iraq Invasion Before 911 |
11 Jan 2004 12:31:49 AM |
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On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 06:05:10 GMT, "Dave H."
<dhaapala@houston.barf.rr.com> wrote:
"Yang" <eacmole@SPAMmail.com> wrote in message
news:4000d14b.21009093@news.cox.net...
On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 04:05:32 GMT, "Dave H."
<dhaapala@houston.barf.rr.com> wrote:
Excuse Top Post:
Yang,
I am very confused by your constant proselytizing.
You are easily confused.
OK, fine.
It seems to me that a hard core Xian, and you, would make multiple
posts
with a subject line that you constantly post with.
You know, you are an *****: I say that as an atheist, and as a
person
who is actually a little, just a little, right of center
You know, you are a moron. You hate all Christians and Muslims because
they happen to be Christians and Muslims. I have nothing in common
with you.
I didn't say that, but if you did, well...
Let see, you dismiss MLK's degree simply he did his on theolgy and:
"Religion is the human enemy, *****.
Just thought I would boil it down for you."
David Haapala[1]
What were you saying again?
You see, I don't care if you manufacture things I might have said. The
only thing I have to say about you is that you are a spoiled little child
with a flag called a PhD that you wave around as some sort of authoritative
basis for espousing all of the ***** you believe in. (Just like Pat
Robertson, et. al.)
You see, dejanews and I have quite good memories, so you can lie about
what you say all you want. I'll simply remind you of your lies.
Godless, I am. You? Well, I dunno...
Feckless, you are.
I have worked around so many people with doctorates that the title
doesn't impress me anymore. I have met many PhD's that are as stoopid and
perhaps less stoopid as YOU!
Hee he...
I have seen many janitor cleaning up my company, and that are
certainly more intelligen than you. Now take your bullhit lies and
shove it up your *****.
Is this the intellectual writing one would expect from a Doctor?
My intellectuall writings are not reserved for your ilk.
[1]http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&threadm=f5ofjvgtvkgth3mqdd8ngis9j2f78b8jqv%404ax.com&rnum=1&prev=/groups%3Fq%3Datheist%2540home%2Byang%2Balt.atheism%2Bliberia%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8%26selm%3Df5ofjvgtvkgth3mqdd8ngis9j2f78b8jqv%25404ax.com%26rnum%3D1
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Yang
a.a. #28
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Socerey Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec
The Bush 'balanced' budget: -525 billion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: -3 million jobs and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -495 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: Book: Bush Planned Iraq Invasion Before 911 |
11 Jan 2004 08:59:48 AM |
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On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 00:58:16 GMT, (Yang) wrote:
Of course Bill Clinton was intent on screwing interns in the oval
office. And Bill was in search of ways to get into Monica's panties.
And how many GI died as a result, you ***** chickenhawk traitor?
It's over 500 now and 3000 non military in a twin tower collapse..
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| User: "Daniel Kolle" |
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| Title: Re: Book: Bush Planned Iraq Invasion Before 911 |
11 Jan 2004 12:19:11 PM |
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On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 08:59:48 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> thought
hard and said:
On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 00:58:16 GMT, (Yang) wrote:
Of course Bill Clinton was intent on screwing interns in the oval
office. And Bill was in search of ways to get into Monica's panties.
And how many GI died as a result, you ***** chickenhawk traitor?
It's over 500 now and 3000 non military in a twin tower collapse..
As far as I know, duke, Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11.
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| User: "William Barwell" |
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| Title: Re: Book: Bush Planned Iraq Invasion Before 911 |
11 Jan 2004 08:28:23 PM |
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Daniel Kolle wrote:
On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 08:59:48 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> thought
hard and said:
On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 00:58:16 GMT, (Yang) wrote:
Of course Bill Clinton was intent on screwing interns in the oval
office. And Bill was in search of ways to get into Monica's panties.
And how many GI died as a result, you ***** chickenhawk traitor?
It's over 500 now and 3000 non military in a twin tower collapse..
As far as I know, duke, Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11.
Bush has been forced to admit that fact too, after repeatedly insinuating
quite the opposite.
He lied and lied and lied and the far right simple does not care.
No patriots here. Not one.
--
Bush! Chimp or chump?
Cheerful Charlie
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Book: Bush Planned Iraq Invasion Before 911 |
11 Jan 2004 05:39:34 PM |
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On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 12:19:11 -0600, Daniel Kolle <DKolle@hotmail.com>
posted to alt.atheism:
On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 08:59:48 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> thought
hard and said:
On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 00:58:16 GMT, (Yang) wrote:
Of course Bill Clinton was intent on screwing interns in the oval
office. And Bill was in search of ways to get into Monica's panties.
And how many GI died as a result, you ***** chickenhawk traitor?
It's over 500 now and 3000 non military in a twin tower collapse..
As far as I know, duke, Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11.
Or with the deaths in Iraq from the time we invaded.
--
Zymurgist # 2
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
rukbat at optonline dot net
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: Book: Bush Planned Iraq Invasion Before 911 |
11 Jan 2004 03:48:09 PM |
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On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 12:19:11 -0600, Daniel Kolle <DKolle@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 08:59:48 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> thought
hard and said:
On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 00:58:16 GMT, (Yang) wrote:
Of course Bill Clinton was intent on screwing interns in the oval
office. And Bill was in search of ways to get into Monica's panties.
And how many GI died as a result, you ***** chickenhawk traitor?
It's over 500 now and 3000 non military in a twin tower collapse..
As far as I know, duke, Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11.
Neither do I, but as you said, "as far as we know".
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Book: Bush Planned Iraq Invasion Before 911 |
11 Jan 2004 07:51:50 PM |
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On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 15:48:09 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> posted
to alt.atheism:
On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 12:19:11 -0600, Daniel Kolle <DKolle@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 08:59:48 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> thought
hard and said:
On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 00:58:16 GMT, (Yang) wrote:
Of course Bill Clinton was intent on screwing interns in the oval
office. And Bill was in search of ways to get into Monica's panties.
And how many GI died as a result, you ***** chickenhawk traitor?
It's over 500 now and 3000 non military in a twin tower collapse..
As far as I know, duke, Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11.
Neither do I, but as you said, "as far as we know".
Then why don't we invade Russia? We don't know that Putin had nothing
to do with it either.
--
"I don't try to imagine a God; it suffices to stand in awe of the structure of the world
insofar as it allows our inadequate senses to appreciate it."
- Letter to S. Flesch, April 16, 1954; Einstein Archive 30-1154
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
rukbat at optonline dot net
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