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"Eudaemonic Plague" |
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19 Aug 2005 11:41:33 PM |
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Books to Give to Children |
I want to compile a list of books to give to my friends' and relatives'
children, in order to influence them to think...and hopefully,
eventually, break away from the religious influences that are holding
them down.
C. S. Lewis would more than likely have been horrified, if he'd only
known that his Narnia series, The Space Trilogy, and The Screwtape
Letters were a large part of the influences that brought me to the
realization that there are no gods. Other things that made me think (as
much as I hate this phrase) "outside the box" include, The Mad Scientist
Club (almost time for the fourth to be released, finally!!!), The Three
Investigators, various science fiction/fantasy authors....Isaac Asimov,
Andre Norton, Theodore Sturgeon, Algis Budrys, Olaf Stapledon, and, as I
began with, various religious writers. When you mix writings that make
one think with writings by those who try not to let you think, I feel
that it makes the dogmatists' demands for dogma stand out in stark contrast.
I never had any fears that my son would ever be susceptable to the call
of religion, and rightly so. While I do wish he'd have more ambition, I
recall rather well what it was like when I was his age. We've fed him
on a healthy diet of F&SF, interesting science, and many thoughts about
how to relate to other people, in order to build that necessary social
network. My wife and I believe that we have succeeded in many, if not
most, of our goals with him, and I am fairly certain that exposure to
the proper ideas, and direct evidence that the ideas work has been the
key to his being held as a steadfast friend by his circle (met briefly
in school, yet remaining close friends, even having been seperated
schoolwise for many years).
Please pardon my ramble, I'm rather drunk & stoned....
Anyway, the idea is to come up with a good list of books that will lead
the reader toward thinking for themselves, and to question ideas,
wherever they spring from. Also, I feel that they should lead toward
self-reliance, as much as possible (not to shun assistance from others,
or anything, though).
Hah. That brings up another thought. One of the things that I learned
early, was that whether playing a game, or living life, gaining success
after struggle is much more satisfying than having things handed to you,
or cheating to win. Having had a strong interest in games of most
sorts, all my life, and having had access to sophisticated computer
games since the '70s (3D multiplayer even!). Heh, just _see_ how much
fun you have playing Adventure (or any of the variations) is, when you
have someone telling you how to get past the tricky parts. Not that I
ever finished Adventure, Adventl, Zork, or any other text
adventure....*sigh*. Damn, now that I think of it, I can't think of
many games that I ever _did_ run to the end. Maybe it's time to get
back into serious gaming (I can run just about anything I care to on my
box).
You still here? You must be really bored, reading all of this...but
then, I know there are people who probably read just about every post on
a.a.......sad.
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| User: "Therion Ware" |
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| Title: Re: Books to Give to Children |
19 Aug 2005 11:32:58 AM |
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On Sat, 20 Aug 2005 04:41:33 GMT in alt.atheism, Eudaemonic Plague
(Eudaemonic Plague <ghod@ameritech.net>) said, directing the reply to
alt.atheism
I want to compile a list of books to give to my friends' and relatives'
children, in order to influence them to think...and hopefully,
eventually, break away from the religious influences that are holding
them down.
Only You Can Save Mankind,
Johnny & the Dead,
Johnny & the Bomb
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0552553824
Also:
The Amazing Maurice and his educated rodents.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0060012358
All delightfully subversive in lots of different ways.
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| User: "Khartoum" |
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| Title: Re: Books to Give to Children |
20 Aug 2005 01:29:43 PM |
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Therion Ware <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote in
news:262cg1dpv9c2e5ccl353nac0glerelcim6@4ax.com:
On Sat, 20 Aug 2005 04:41:33 GMT in alt.atheism, Eudaemonic Plague
(Eudaemonic Plague <ghod@ameritech.net>) said, directing the reply to
alt.atheism
I want to compile a list of books to give to my friends' and
relatives'
children, in order to influence them to think...and hopefully,
eventually, break away from the religious influences that are holding
them down.
Only You Can Save Mankind,
Johnny & the Dead,
Johnny & the Bomb
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0552553824
Not available to merkins until late November. That's five Pratchett
books for me to purchase this fall. (Thud and Where's my Cow the other
two)
Also:
The Amazing Maurice and his educated rodents.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0060012358
All delightfully subversive in lots of different ways.
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Khartoum aa#2110
EAC Director of Subversive Horticulture
Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without
having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?
~Douglas Adams
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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| Title: Re: Books to Give to Children |
20 Aug 2005 02:23:57 PM |
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Therion Ware wrote:
On Sat, 20 Aug 2005 04:41:33 GMT in alt.atheism, Eudaemonic Plague
(Eudaemonic Plague <ghod@ameritech.net>) said, directing the reply to
alt.atheism
I want to compile a list of books to give to my friends' and
relatives' children, in order to influence them to think...and
hopefully, eventually, break away from the religious influences that
are holding them down.
Only You Can Save Mankind,
Johnny & the Dead,
Johnny & the Bomb
Juhny got his gun.
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| User: "JTEM" |
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| Title: Re: Books to Give to Children |
20 Aug 2005 02:38:15 AM |
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"Eudaemonic Plague" <ghod@ameritech.net> wrote
I want to compile a list of books to give to my friends' and
relatives' children, in order to influence them to think...
and hopefully, eventually, break away from the religious
influences that are holding them down.
"To Kill A Mockingbird" is always on my short list, though
I wouldn't think it appropriate for younger children.
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| User: "Liz" |
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20 Aug 2005 08:48:44 AM |
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On Sat, 20 Aug 2005 03:38:15 -0400, "JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com> in
news message <M-mdnUf0RYwTRpveRVn-tw@comcast.com> wrote:
"Eudaemonic Plague" <ghod@ameritech.net> wrote
I want to compile a list of books to give to my friends' and
relatives' children, in order to influence them to think...
and hopefully, eventually, break away from the religious
influences that are holding them down.
"To Kill A Mockingbird" is always on my short list, though
I wouldn't think it appropriate for younger children.
I read TKaM to my children when they were 8 and 9. They thoroughly
enjoyed it although there was a lot of 'splaining to do.
Überwench #658 Now a *real* atheist!
Dame Liz the Undaunted Ath.D BAAWA
Charter Member of SMASH
and Queen of the known universe
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| User: "JTEM" |
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21 Aug 2005 01:11:27 AM |
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"Liz" <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote
"To Kill A Mockingbird" is always on my short list, though
I wouldn't think it appropriate for younger children.
I read TKaM to my children when they were 8 and 9. They thoroughly
enjoyed it although there was a lot of 'splaining to do.
I could imagine.
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| User: "ivan" |
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20 Aug 2005 02:41:39 AM |
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"Eudaemonic Plague" <ghod@ameritech.net> wrote in message
news:1wyNe.4953$Hn3.77@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net...
I want to compile a list of books to give to my friends' and relatives'
children, in order to influence them to think...and hopefully,
eventually, break away from the religious influences that are holding
them down.
Brainwashing little kids, now that is something new! Where did
you learn that? In school? God, what scum walks the earth...
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| User: "Enkidu the Atheist" |
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20 Aug 2005 09:50:53 AM |
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"ivan" <ivangr@gmail.com> wrote in news:de6n2l$plb$1@news1.xnet.hr:
"Eudaemonic Plague" <ghod@ameritech.net> wrote in message
news:1wyNe.4953$Hn3.77@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net...
I want to compile a list of books to give to my friends' and relatives'
children, in order to influence them to think...and hopefully,
eventually, break away from the religious influences that are holding
them down.
Brainwashing little kids, now that is something new! Where did
you learn that? In school? God, what scum walks the earth...
We kearned it from the Christians.
--
Enkidu AA#2165
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
PGP ID: 0xC4CE8CF0
The believer is happy; the doubter is wise.
-- Hungarian proverb
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| User: "ivan" |
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20 Aug 2005 01:40:15 PM |
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"Enkidu the Atheist" <jdwnx4702@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns96B84FE0AFD46255229@130.133.1.4...
"ivan" <ivangr@gmail.com> wrote in news:de6n2l$plb$1@news1.xnet.hr:
I want to compile a list of books to give to my friends' and relatives'
children, in order to influence them to think...and hopefully,
eventually, break away from the religious influences that are holding
them down.
Brainwashing little kids, now that is something new! Where did
you learn that? In school? God, what scum walks the earth...
We kearned it from the Christians.
OK, I will summarize your replies:
Enkidu: I don't give a rats ***** about your views about 'christians'.
And you know why? Cause YOU are a little brainwashed idiot who
thinks that 'christians' are the ones to blame. Reality check, atheist fool:
it ain't only the christians, just as it ain't ONLY Bush. Can you comprehend
that? I see that you amerikkkan folks are really dim. You nag about Bush,
and you blame only Bush, liek all your other presidents weren't the scum
of the earth. Just liek christians. They surely ain't the only guilty party in this
mess called 'reality'. You have muslims, jews, protestants, atheists... we all
partake in this mess called reality. And you, and most of other atheists, just
blame the catholic church. For me, that is a sign of a brainwashed, dim, stoopid
and feeble mind. Biased opinions. Just cause you atheist 'found out by yourselves
that there is no God'. Idiots... yes yes, little atheist pric*s. YOU are FREE! Sure.
Try flying you atheist idiot. Or try walking on water. Try moving a building. IF you
are free... yeah, free of repentance and guilt. That's what you are. You need to patent
your 'inventions'. Hahahahaha...
LP:Teaching kids to THINK?
"I want to compile a list of books to give to my friends' and relatives'
children, in order to influence them to think..."
So this guy here wants to INFLUENCE other people's kids to 'think'.
I don't know about you, but influencing other people's kids is called
manipulation, brainwashing... I would understand that he alone wants
to 'influence' his own kids... but his friends' and relatives' kids? Sure, he
must be Jesus. No, a SAINT! No no no, A PROPHET! Sure... as I said,
fuc**ng scum. Pardon my french. And yes, by birth I am christian. If I was born
in Saudi Arabia, I would be muslim. If I was born in Israel, I would be a jew.
Etc etc... So LP you are little atheist who really doesn't have brain cells
at all. Biased. Brainwashed. And excuse me, Bible is a good book. And you
atheist are taking a ***** on the Bible cause you don't have STRENGHT to
repent, and bow down to something that is BIGGER than all of US! You can
call it God, Jesus, Allah, Shiva, Buddah, Mothen Nature... so yes, I have no
pity for atheist souls. Beacuse you are not able to think and see that
something is out there, bigger than us. Even if it is only rocks and chemical
components. Still... erm yes, try beating gravity with your own body dude.
And let's see how you atheists are really FREE.! Cmon... oh you can't? Oh,
that means that there are some RULES. Who put those rules in order? Was
it human? Was is an animal? WHO was it? See... you atheists cannot comprehend
that we, HUMANS, are not the only ones around here. But, as I said, Darwin
made his point... fucking masons and *****. Putting humans above it all. THAT
my atheist friend will be the death of us all.
Brian.E.Clark: INFULENCING minds of little kids IS NOT, and I repeat,
IS NOT 'offering alternative points of view' And you know why? CAUSE THEY
ARE FUCKING KIDS! It would be different if those kids are old enough
to shape their own opinions and if they came to this 'plague' dude, and aksed him;
''hey, I'm interrested in this and that, could you tell me something more?''. NO,
that is not the case here. THE DUDE was led to believe by reading some books
that there is no God. And now he wants to INFULENCE other people's kids
to BELIEVE him, because HE knows. You take a ***** at christianity, and all
other religions, cause THEY believe in God. And you make fun of them cause
they believe in 'something that does not exist'. What is even more funny is YOU,
little atheists who CLAIM that there IS NO GOD! HOW the ***** do you know?
And who the ***** is that pri*k telling other kids that there is no God? Leave the
kids alone. Let them shape their own opinions! Cause out of 20 kids, maybe
10 will believe in God, and 10 won't. And if people liek this 'plague' dude go around
'influencing' little kids... that ain't fair. That ain't right. You know it, he knows it, I
know it, every man with at least ONE brain cell knows that it is wrong!
PS.
All three of you supposed that I am a hardkor christian, or some stoopid ***** liek that.
Yes, I am a christian. But not cause I believe in all of those mumbo jumbo that comes
from priests and popes... I never go to church, I rarely pray, I don't believe in this church,
but I do believe in Jesus. I don't hate other religions, but what I do despise is soulless,
pityful excuses of human beings that call themselves, atheists. Cause there is nothing more
disgusting than a sight of a human being without beliefs in something bigger, and a human
being without soul. THAT my dear friends, are YOU. NO SOUL! And you sway with
your little flock of atheists, talking *****... and for someone who is standing outside of it
all,
I must say: YOU, and all of your atheist clique are JUST AS SILLY AS SOME POPE,
OR RABIN, OR PRIEST... or any other religious man. Because, let's go back to the
first grade shall we; "I am the wisest man alive, for I know one thing, and that is that I know
nothing."
Something liek that... was it Socrates? I'm pretty sure it was.
Walk in peace, lost souls.
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| User: "Enkidu the Atheist" |
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| Title: Re: Books to Give to Children |
20 Aug 2005 02:38:52 PM |
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"ivan" <ivangr@gmail.com> wrote in news:de7tlr$bmu$1@news1.xnet.hr:
"Enkidu the Atheist" <jdwnx4702@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns96B84FE0AFD46255229@130.133.1.4...
"ivan" <ivangr@gmail.com> wrote in news:de6n2l$plb$1@news1.xnet.hr:
I want to compile a list of books to give to my friends' and
relatives' children, in order to influence them to think...and
hopefully, eventually, break away from the religious influences
that are holding them down.
Brainwashing little kids, now that is something new! Where did
you learn that? In school? God, what scum walks the earth...
We kearned it from the Christians.
OK, I will summarize your replies:
Enkidu: I don't give a rats ***** about your views about 'christians'.
And you know why? Cause YOU are a little brainwashed idiot who
thinks that 'christians' are the ones to blame. Reality check, atheist
fool: it ain't only the christians, just as it ain't ONLY Bush. Can
you comprehend that? I see that you amerikkkan folks are really dim.
You nag about Bush, and you blame only Bush, liek all your other
presidents weren't the scum of the earth. Just liek christians. They
surely ain't the only guilty party in this mess called 'reality'. You
have muslims, jews, protestants, atheists... we all partake in this
mess called reality. And you, and most of other atheists, just blame
the catholic church. For me, that is a sign of a brainwashed, dim,
stoopid and feeble mind. Biased opinions. Just cause you atheist
'found out by yourselves that there is no God'. Idiots... yes yes,
little atheist pric*s. YOU are FREE! Sure. Try flying you atheist
idiot. Or try walking on water. Try moving a building. IF you are
free... yeah, free of repentance and guilt. That's what you are. You
need to patent your 'inventions'. Hahahahaha...
LP:Teaching kids to THINK?
"I want to compile a list of books to give to my friends' and
relatives' children, in order to influence them to think..."
So this guy here wants to INFLUENCE other people's kids to 'think'.
I don't know about you, but influencing other people's kids is called
manipulation, brainwashing... I would understand that he alone wants
to 'influence' his own kids... but his friends' and relatives' kids?
Sure, he must be Jesus. No, a SAINT! No no no, A PROPHET! Sure... as I
said, fuc**ng scum. Pardon my french. And yes, by birth I am
christian. If I was born in Saudi Arabia, I would be muslim. If I was
born in Israel, I would be a jew. Etc etc... So LP you are little
atheist who really doesn't have brain cells at all. Biased.
Brainwashed. And excuse me, Bible is a good book. And you atheist are
taking a ***** on the Bible cause you don't have STRENGHT to repent,
and bow down to something that is BIGGER than all of US! You can call
it God, Jesus, Allah, Shiva, Buddah, Mothen Nature... so yes, I have
no pity for atheist souls. Beacuse you are not able to think and see
that something is out there, bigger than us. Even if it is only rocks
and chemical components. Still... erm yes, try beating gravity with
your own body dude. And let's see how you atheists are really FREE.!
Cmon... oh you can't? Oh, that means that there are some RULES. Who
put those rules in order? Was it human? Was is an animal? WHO was it?
See... you atheists cannot comprehend that we, HUMANS, are not the
only ones around here. But, as I said, Darwin made his point...
fucking masons and *****. Putting humans above it all. THAT my atheist
friend will be the death of us all.
Brian.E.Clark: INFULENCING minds of little kids IS NOT, and I repeat,
IS NOT 'offering alternative points of view' And you know why? CAUSE
THEY ARE FUCKING KIDS! It would be different if those kids are old
enough to shape their own opinions and if they came to this 'plague'
dude, and aksed him; ''hey, I'm interrested in this and that, could
you tell me something more?''. NO, that is not the case here. THE DUDE
was led to believe by reading some books that there is no God. And now
he wants to INFULENCE other people's kids to BELIEVE him, because HE
knows. You take a ***** at christianity, and all other religions, cause
THEY believe in God. And you make fun of them cause they believe in
'something that does not exist'. What is even more funny is YOU,
little atheists who CLAIM that there IS NO GOD! HOW the ***** do you
know? And who the ***** is that pri*k telling other kids that there is
no God? Leave the kids alone. Let them shape their own opinions! Cause
out of 20 kids, maybe 10 will believe in God, and 10 won't. And if
people liek this 'plague' dude go around 'influencing' little kids...
that ain't fair. That ain't right. You know it, he knows it, I know
it, every man with at least ONE brain cell knows that it is wrong!
PS.
All three of you supposed that I am a hardkor christian, or some
stoopid ***** liek that. Yes, I am a christian. But not cause I believe
in all of those mumbo jumbo that comes from priests and popes... I
never go to church, I rarely pray, I don't believe in this church, but
I do believe in Jesus. I don't hate other religions, but what I do
despise is soulless, pityful excuses of human beings that call
themselves, atheists. Cause there is nothing more disgusting than a
sight of a human being without beliefs in something bigger, and a
human being without soul. THAT my dear friends, are YOU. NO SOUL! And
you sway with your little flock of atheists, talking *****... and for
someone who is standing outside of it all,
I must say: YOU, and all of your atheist clique are JUST AS SILLY AS
SOME POPE, OR RABIN, OR PRIEST... or any other religious man. Because,
let's go back to the first grade shall we; "I am the wisest man alive,
for I know one thing, and that is that I know nothing."
Something liek that... was it Socrates? I'm pretty sure it was.
Walk in peace, lost souls.
What a loser!
--
Enkidu AA#2165
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
PGP ID: 0xC4CE8CF0
Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.
-- lapel button
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| User: "ivan" |
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20 Aug 2005 04:29:03 PM |
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"Enkidu the Atheist" <jdwnx4702@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
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"ivan" <ivangr@gmail.com> wrote in news:de7tlr$bmu$1@news1.xnet.hr:
What a loser!
Oh, now I'm a loser! How pathetic Enkidu.
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| User: "Elroy Willis" |
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20 Aug 2005 07:10:53 PM |
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ivan <ivangr@gmail.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Enkidu the Atheist <jdwnx4702@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
ivan <ivangr@gmail.com> wrote in news:de7tlr$bmu$1@news1.xnet.hr:
What a loser!
Oh, now I'm a loser! How pathetic Enkidu.
Ivan the Terrible, is that you?
--
Elroy Willis
www.elroysemporium.com
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| User: "ivan" |
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21 Aug 2005 01:48:25 PM |
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"Elroy Willis" <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote in message
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ivan <ivangr@gmail.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Enkidu the Atheist <jdwnx4702@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
ivan <ivangr@gmail.com> wrote in news:de7tlr$bmu$1@news1.xnet.hr:
What a loser!
Oh, now I'm a loser! How pathetic Enkidu.
Ivan the Terrible, is that you?
No man. That is not me. I'm Ivan The Prophet.
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| User: "Enkidu the Atheist" |
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21 Aug 2005 04:23:30 PM |
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"ivan" <ivangr@gmail.com> wrote in news:deaj3b$en0$1@news1.xnet.hr:
"Elroy Willis" <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote in message
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ivan <ivangr@gmail.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Enkidu the Atheist <jdwnx4702@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
ivan <ivangr@gmail.com> wrote in news:de7tlr$bmu$1@news1.xnet.hr:
What a loser!
Oh, now I'm a loser! How pathetic Enkidu.
Ivan the Terrible, is that you?
No man. That is not me. I'm Ivan The Prophet.
And like every prophet from the beginning of language, you have nothing
but ***** to offer. But you're not selling ***** to ignorant goat
herders or isolated Peruvian villagers. This is alt.atheism. We've seen
your brand of ***** before, and we see it for what it is. You'll get
no converts here.
Read the sig.
--
Enkidu AA#2165
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
PGP ID: 0xC4CE8CF0
Faith is often the boast of the man who is too lazy to investigate.
-- F.M. Knowles
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| User: "ivan" |
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22 Aug 2005 03:26:11 AM |
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"Enkidu the Atheist" <jdwnx4702@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
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"ivan" <ivangr@gmail.com> wrote in news:deaj3b$en0$1@news1.xnet.hr:
And like every prophet from the beginning of language, you have nothing
but ***** to offer.
No man. Liek any other 'prophet' I have no PROFIT and INTEREST
to offer. Especially to people liek you. If you saw some interest in my
'prophecies', you WOULD believe them. But since I am an incorruptable
individual, with sky high moral values (well, at least for majority of the
people around me), and (I admit) not so much of that thing called knowledge,
I'm doing a pretty good job. Yeah... look, I believe in Jesus, but I don't believ
in catholic church. I AM right, 99 pct of time, I have no followers, and I have
fought the devil and I won. Now... hm...
But you're not selling ***** to ignorant goat
herders or isolated Peruvian villagers.
But you are just liek them.
This is alt.atheism.
That's why I came here... cause you remind me of Peruvian villagers.
And you know what? YOU ARE liek Peruvian villagers. You just live
in BIG villages, called cities... that's all.
We've seen
your brand of ***** before,
No man... you haven't. That's why you react in such a manner.
and we see it for what it is.
What is it? Faith? Repentance? Bow to the almighty King?
USE your brain? Speak truth? Show no mercy to the lieges
of the devil?
You'll get
no converts here.
You really think I'm here to CONVINCE you into something?
Or convert you? No dude... you're paranoid. Your atheism got
your brain all messed up man. Beacuse when you see someone
speaking of faith, you automatically think of God, Pope, Vatican
etc etc... but in fact, you think of Jesus, and sorry to say mate,
you can't stand the level of the game set by Jesus. That's what lies
inside all of you atheists. NOT BEING ABLE TO PERFORM!
Hahahahahahahahaa... maaaan... I just love some atheist fun. Playing
me liek a schmuck. Git. Plonker. Oh, I must admit, i despise the world
we all are living in, but on the other hand... people are so fucking stoopid,
and people think that they know something, and they act liek they ARE
something, and they try and try and try to bring your hopes down (yeah,
that's the favorite game for you atheists; killing hope)... ah... I am good.
Hahahahahaha... see my shiny sword, pagan? Errrm... yes yes...
Read the sig.
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ivan wrote:
"Enkidu the Atheist" <jdwnx4702@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns96B992723FAF3255229@130.133.1.4...
"ivan" <ivangr@gmail.com> wrote in news:deaj3b$en0$1@news1.xnet.hr:
And like every prophet from the beginning of language, you have nothing
but ***** to offer.
No man. Liek ...
I can forgive typos if they happen on ocassion, but, damn, man. The
word is "like." Try it. Ell-Eye-Kay-Ee. Like. Try it. You'll look
like an intellectual. ;-)
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* DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 *
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* "No one ever demonstrated, so far as I am aware, *
* the non-existence of Zeus or Thor - but they *
* have few followers now." Arthur C. Clarke *
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22 Aug 2005 12:24:37 PM |
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"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in message news:9ohOe.5902$0U6.4991@trnddc09...
ivan wrote:
"Enkidu the Atheist" <jdwnx4702@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns96B992723FAF3255229@130.133.1.4...
"ivan" <ivangr@gmail.com> wrote in news:deaj3b$en0$1@news1.xnet.hr:
And like every prophet from the beginning of language, you have nothing
but ***** to offer.
No man. Liek ...
I can forgive typos if they happen on ocassion, but, damn, man. The
word is "like." Try it. Ell-Eye-Kay-Ee. Like. Try it. You'll look
like an intellectual. ;-)
An intellectual liek you? No thanks. I'd rather kill myself.
See... did you know that wait can be written as w8?
Or before, as b4? No? Yes? You hate black people?
Slang? Talk of the streets? LIEK is just a funny thing...
you know, joke, corrupting the language just for fun and
stuff LIEK that. But hey, you as an intellectual, you know
all this... now don't ya? 'Daniel'!
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22 Aug 2005 07:26:50 PM |
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"ivan" <ivangr@gmail.com> wrote in news:ded270$5ic$4@news1.xnet.hr:
"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:9ohOe.5902$0U6.4991@trnddc09...
ivan wrote:
"Enkidu the Atheist" <jdwnx4702@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns96B992723FAF3255229@130.133.1.4...
"ivan" <ivangr@gmail.com> wrote in news:deaj3b$en0$1@news1.xnet.hr:
And like every prophet from the beginning of language, you have
nothing but ***** to offer.
No man. Liek ...
I can forgive typos if they happen on ocassion, but, damn, man. The
word is "like." Try it. Ell-Eye-Kay-Ee. Like. Try it. You'll
look like an intellectual. ;-)
An intellectual liek you? No thanks. I'd rather kill myself.
See... did you know that wait can be written as w8?
Or before, as b4? No? Yes? You hate black people?
Slang? Talk of the streets? LIEK is just a funny thing...
you know, joke, corrupting the language just for fun and
stuff LIEK that. But hey, you as an intellectual, you know
all this... now don't ya? 'Daniel'!
Well, when you have nothing to say, I guess it doesn't matter how you say
it. Later, dude! (NOT)
--
Enkidu AA#2165
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
PGP ID: 0xC4CE8CF0
There is nothing more frightful than ignorance in action.
-- Goethe
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22 Aug 2005 07:41:59 PM |
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"Enkidu the Atheist" <jdwnx4702@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns96BAB1885CAB2255229@130.133.1.4...
"ivan" <ivangr@gmail.com> wrote in news:ded270$5ic$4@news1.xnet.hr:
An intellectual liek you? No thanks. I'd rather kill myself.
See... did you know that wait can be written as w8?
Or before, as b4? No? Yes? You hate black people?
Slang? Talk of the streets? LIEK is just a funny thing...
you know, joke, corrupting the language just for fun and
stuff LIEK that. But hey, you as an intellectual, you know
all this... now don't ya? 'Daniel'!
Well, when you have nothing to say, I guess it doesn't matter how you say
it. Later, dude! (NOT)
Well, I see that you run pagan... well, you better. Or my shiny
sword will make you run alright... hehehehehehehehe...
Enkidu AA#2165
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
PGP ID: 0xC4CE8CF0
There is nothing more frightful than ignorance in action.
-- Goethe
Oh, how profound. Goethe? You changed your sig just
for ME? Oh... how touching... how subtle... oh...
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23 Aug 2005 09:54:43 AM |
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Piggy-backing
On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 19:26:50 -0500, Enkidu the Atheist wrote
(in article <Xns96BAB1885CAB2255229@130.133.1.4>):
"ivan" <ivangr@gmail.com> wrote in news:ded270$5ic$4@news1.xnet.hr:
"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:9ohOe.5902$0U6.4991@trnddc09...
ivan wrote:
"Enkidu the Atheist" <jdwnx4702@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns96B992723FAF3255229@130.133.1.4...
"ivan" <ivangr@gmail.com> wrote in news:deaj3b$en0$1@news1.xnet.hr:
And like every prophet from the beginning of language, you have
nothing but ***** to offer.
No man. Liek ...
I can forgive typos if they happen on ocassion, but, damn, man. The
word is "like." Try it. Ell-Eye-Kay-Ee. Like. Try it. You'll
look like an intellectual. ;-)
An intellectual liek you? No thanks. I'd rather kill myself.
Please do, since we all agree this would be much better.
See... did you know that wait can be written as w8?
Or before, as b4? No? Yes? You hate black people?
Slang? Talk of the streets? LIEK is just a funny thing...
you know, joke, corrupting the language just for fun and
stuff LIEK that. But hey, you as an intellectual, you know
all this... now don't ya? 'Daniel'!
Some of us prefer to be understandable to those we attempt to converse with.
--
Harry F. Leopold
aa #2076
AA/Vet #4
The Prints of Darkness
(remove gene to email)
³We don't just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages
down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new
vocabulary."-James D. Nicoll
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23 Aug 2005 12:33:10 PM |
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"Harry F. Leopold" <hleopold@coxyx.net> wrote in message
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An intellectual liek you? No thanks. I'd rather kill myself.
Please do, since we all agree this would be much better.
Never say DIE!
See... did you know that wait can be written as w8?
Or before, as b4? No? Yes? You hate black people?
Slang? Talk of the streets? LIEK is just a funny thing...
you know, joke, corrupting the language just for fun and
stuff LIEK that. But hey, you as an intellectual, you know
all this... now don't ya? 'Daniel'!
Some of us prefer to be understandable to those we attempt to converse with.
Oh, you don't understand what I say? Then you are stoopid... are you?
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25 Aug 2005 08:55:13 PM |
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ivan <ivangr@gmail.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Elroy Willis <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote in message
ivan <ivangr@gmail.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Enkidu the Atheist <jdwnx4702@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
ivan <ivangr@gmail.com> wrote in news:de7tlr$bmu$1@news1.xnet.hr:
What a loser!
Oh, now I'm a loser! How pathetic Enkidu.
Ivan the Terrible, is that you?
No man. That is not me. I'm Ivan The Prophet.
Make some predictions, then we can see what you're made of. :)
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Elroy Willis
www.elroysemporium.com
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21 Aug 2005 05:36:15 PM |
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ivan wrote:
"Elroy Willis" <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote in message
news:s5hfg1lkqtktjoh0jp3cah0kph2a7ofptm@4ax.com...
ivan <ivangr@gmail.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Enkidu the Atheist <jdwnx4702@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
ivan <ivangr@gmail.com> wrote in news:de7tlr$bmu$1@news1.xnet.hr:
What a loser!
Oh, now I'm a loser! How pathetic Enkidu.
Ivan the Terrible, is that you?
No man. That is not me. I'm Ivan The Prophet.
Wow. You really think you are 'the *****'. That's probably beacuse of
your 'knowledge' other people should unquestionably believe what you
say, right?
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* DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 *
*--------------------------------------------------*
* "No one ever demonstrated, so far as I am aware, *
* the non-existence of Zeus or Thor - but they *
* have few followers now." Arthur C. Clarke *
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22 Aug 2005 03:47:27 AM |
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"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in message news:zl7Oe.6883$M3.2531@trnddc05...
Wow. You really think you are 'the *****'.
Well, if The Duke, or Elvis, or Reagan, or Britney are the *****,
damn so am I.
That's probably beacuse of
your 'knowledge' other people should unquestionably believe what you
say, right?
No, YOU or anybody else should NOT, I repeat, should NOT
believe a word I say. I'm not here to MAKE you believe. I'm
just here to say something YOU knew and know all along. Yes, yes...
I ain't doing no 'talent' scouting, you can be sure of that. I, in fact,
just love rubbing peoples' noses with ***** they produce. That's
all. Liek when you atheists say there is NO God, or when christians
say there is NO afterlife, or when pricks try to tell me that educated
people are here to HELP humanity, or when I see on TV that some
of them politicans say 'we need tighter security, cause of them evol
terrorists. have a chip and a micro camera John Doe, it's for YOUR
safety', or when for example my girl says 'I would never cheat on you',
or 'I would never leave you', or when for example I see bombs in London
and then I see news 'elite' trying to scare us (me) with some silly terrorist
threats, or when MEN tell me that I should be a MAN and get along with
'it'... stuff liek that. Jews talking about Holocaust liek it was the ONLY bad
thing that has EVER happened (I wonder, did jews hear about Turks, Turkish
empire... for example? Did jews hear that there were mass murders BEFORE
WWII... 10.000 years of civlisation, man... MANY were brutally killed),
or when lefties try to slander righties, of vice versa just to gain POWER, stuff liek that...
you know... genuine human stupidity.
In a world liek this, one can really have much fun.
Cause you know... people make fun of 'paranoid' people, conspiracy
kooks, people with beliefs and ideals... but what those people who make
fun of them don't realize is that ALL of us are brainwashed, and taught
not to use our brains. From MIT genius, to the bum on the streets of every
major city in this 'civilized' world. EVERY single man is brainwashed.
It all became reality, when a marvelous invention was brought up to
see the light of the day... steam machines... from that point in history,
something BAD happened to us all. How DO I know? Ehm... if I'd told
you, I'd have to kill ya. Hahahahahahahahaha...
Damn I would be a good devil... too bad I tricked him. Hahahahahaha...
WORD!
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22 Aug 2005 05:31:10 AM |
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ivan wrote:
"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in message news:zl7Oe.6883$M3.2531@trnddc05...
Wow. You really think you are 'the *****'.
Well, if The Duke, or Elvis, or Reagan, or Britney are the *****,
damn so am I.
And what have you done? I know what John Wayne, Elvis, Reagan, and
Britney have done. What have you done?
That's probably beacuse of
your 'knowledge' other people should unquestionably believe what you
say, right?
No, YOU or anybody else should NOT, I repeat, should NOT
believe a word I say. I'm not here to MAKE you believe. I'm
just here to say something YOU knew and know all along. Yes, yes...
That you're a moron with no ground to stand on? You betcha
..
I ain't doing no 'talent' scouting, you can be sure of that. I, in fact,
just love rubbing peoples' noses with ***** they produce. That's
all. Liek when you atheists say there is NO God, or when christians
say there is NO afterlife, or when pricks try to tell me that educated
people are here to HELP humanity, or when I see on TV that some
of them politicans say 'we need tighter security, cause of them evol
terrorists. have a chip and a micro camera John Doe, it's for YOUR
safety', or when for example my girl says 'I would never cheat on you',
or 'I would never leave you', or when for example I see bombs in London
and then I see news 'elite' trying to scare us (me) with some silly terrorist
threats, or when MEN tell me that I should be a MAN and get along with
'it'... stuff liek that. Jews talking about Holocaust liek it was the ONLY bad
thing that has EVER happened (I wonder, did jews hear about Turks, Turkish
empire... for example? Did jews hear that there were mass murders BEFORE
WWII... 10.000 years of civlisation, man... MANY were brutally killed),
or when lefties try to slander righties, of vice versa just to gain POWER, stuff liek that...
you know... genuine human stupidity.
Are you done? You are no better.
In a world liek this, one can really have much fun.
Tell me. When you turn 18 and are forced to get a job like everyone
else, will you ***** and moan like you are doing here? It is a sure bet
that you'l be fired.
Cause you know... people make fun of 'paranoid' people, conspiracy
kooks, people with beliefs and ideals... but what those people who make
fun of them don't realize is that ALL of us are brainwashed, and taught
not to use our brains. From MIT genius, to the bum on the streets of every
major city in this 'civilized' world. EVERY single man is brainwashed.
It all became reality, when a marvelous invention was brought up to
see the light of the day... steam machines... from that point in history,
something BAD happened to us all. How DO I know? Ehm... if I'd told
you, I'd have to kill ya. Hahahahahahahahaha...
Damn I would be a good devil... too bad I tricked him. Hahahahahaha...
It is my opinion that you have yet to graduate high school. Come back
when you've matured a bit. We are adults here in alt.atheism. Come
back when you're willing to contribute intelligently and lucidly. Thanks!
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* DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 *
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* "No one ever demonstrated, so far as I am aware, *
* the non-existence of Zeus or Thor - but they *
* have few followers now." Arthur C. Clarke *
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22 Aug 2005 12:46:41 PM |
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"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in message news:OPhOe.4073$Hi.2357@trnddc04...
ivan wrote:
"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in message news:zl7Oe.6883$M3.2531@trnddc05...
Wow. You really think you are 'the *****'.
Well, if The Duke, or Elvis, or Reagan, or Britney are the *****,
damn so am I.
And what have you done? I know what John Wayne, Elvis, Reagan, and
Britney have done. What have you done?
Yes yes, YES my dear Watson! PROVE me right! Hahahahahaha...
What you, 'Daniel', have just demonstrated is a FACT, a PROOF
of the condition of this world we live in. First, all those people, you
SAW on TV. Hence; if I wanna 'DO' something, I need to appear
on television. Second, what 'they have done'... only THEY know.
You can't KNOW what Elvis DID... you can only have a CLUE
about WHAT he did. Third; what people manage to DO, on a worldwide
scale in a 'system' liek this, for me and that's only me, don't mean
jack *****. WHY? Cause they do it mostly for themselves. Hence; what
you accomplish in life within society such as this we are living in, for me
don't mean that much. As it does for you.
I really wouldn't liek to go from name to name and point out 'what'
these people have REALLY 'done'. May God judge them... *****, God
already did that!
No, YOU or anybody else should NOT, I repeat, should NOT
believe a word I say. I'm not here to MAKE you believe. I'm
just here to say something YOU knew and know all along. Yes, yes...
That you're a moron with no ground to stand on? You betcha
No ground to stand on? You mean, no one to back me up? No REAL
power? Hahahahahahahaha... eye see thru YOU, 'Daniel'.
I ain't doing no 'talent' scouting, you can be sure of that. I, in fact,
just love rubbing peoples' noses with ***** they produce. That's
all. Liek when you atheists say there is NO God, or when christians
say there is NO afterlife, or when pricks try to tell me that educated
people are here to HELP humanity, or when I see on TV that some
of them politicans say 'we need tighter security, cause of them evol
terrorists. have a chip and a micro camera John Doe, it's for YOUR
safety', or when for example my girl says 'I would never cheat on you',
or 'I would never leave you', or when for example I see bombs in London
and then I see news 'elite' trying to scare us (me) with some silly terrorist
threats, or when MEN tell me that I should be a MAN and get along with
'it'... stuff liek that. Jews talking about Holocaust liek it was the ONLY bad
thing that has EVER happened (I wonder, did jews hear about Turks, Turkish
empire... for example? Did jews hear that there were mass murders BEFORE
WWII... 10.000 years of civlisation, man... MANY were brutally killed),
or when lefties try to slander righties, of vice versa just to gain POWER, stuff liek
that...
you know... genuine human stupidity.
Are you done? You are no better.
Yeah I am. You prove me right.
In a world liek this, one can really have much fun.
Tell me. When you turn 18 and are forced to get a job like everyone
else, will you ***** and moan like you are doing here? It is a sure bet
that you'l be fired.
Yes. I know. And HOW do I know it? Well, cause I know how the system
works. First you get brainwashed at school, then you are FORCED (mind that
word FORCED, cause it ain't nothing less and nothing more than that) to get
'a job' (work invigorates, so they say... but in a world liek this one, work
just desecrates and stupifies more liekly than 'invigorates'), and then the big,
mostly, WHITE sharks get their hands on ya, and then you are fucked...
Red tape all over! I love red. It's the color of love. Hahahahahahaha...
Don't worry 'Daniel', I know I'm right, and I am prefectly aware that it
is ill advised to be right, and to speak truth... and that I will probably git
fired from every single job I git, cause in every bussiness there are BAD
and WRONG things (no, every bussiness is ONLY bad and wrong things),
and as the devil says 'silence in golden'. Well... don't YOU, 'Daniel', worry about me...
DEVIL runs liek a chicken ***** when true LIGHT is being displayed... you
have no doubt about that... but hey, I know YOU already, 'Daniel', know that...
So, 'Daniel', just be thankful for the chains you have been thrown into
somewhere along your life path, and just LICK them chains... if you OBEY
you will be rewarded. Sweet.
And then people aks 'why is this world such a fucked up place'.
Cause you know... people make fun of 'paranoid' people, conspiracy
kooks, people with beliefs and ideals... but what those people who make
fun of them don't realize is that ALL of us are brainwashed, and taught
not to use our brains. From MIT genius, to the bum on the streets of every
major city in this 'civilized' world. EVERY single man is brainwashed.
It all became reality, when a marvelous invention was brought up to
see the light of the day... steam machines... from that point in history,
something BAD happened to us all. How DO I know? Ehm... if I'd told
you, I'd have to kill ya. Hahahahahahahahaha...
Damn I would be a good devil... too bad I tricked him. Hahahahahaha...
It is my opinion that you have yet to graduate high school. Come back
when you've matured a bit. We are adults here in alt.atheism. Come
back when you're willing to contribute intelligently and lucidly. Thanks!
Adults? You mean, you are A) scared, B) you obey, C) you keep your
mouth shut, D) you are moraly decaying day by day, E) you have kids
so that you can have SOME comfort in this thing called LIFE, F) you
are AFRAID to let your speech loose, and finnaly G) you KNOW the
truth, but you are 'too big' chicken shits to actually say it out loud.
Well, my dear, OH SO dear adults... I may be younger, I may be bolder,
I may even be reckless, but remember ONE thing; the day we die awaits
us all, and ALL the answers we seek in this thing called LIFE are encoded
in that last breath... one day, YOU will be sorry. And THERE, in the midst of
life, I await you.
And be assured, YOU will need to pass by ME, MYSELF and EYE!
Hehe...
Rejoice, 'Daniel', rejoice!
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22 Aug 2005 01:14:41 PM |
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On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 19:46:41 +0200, "ivan" <ivangr@gmail.com> wrote:
<snip a load of self-congratulatory *****>
<sheesh> I can't even imagine the amount of effort it must take to achieve such
a monumental level of stupidity.
Run along now, son, before you embarrass yourself any further.
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22 Aug 2005 07:36:45 PM |
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"John Baker" <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote in message
news:7b5kg1t0rgj1jj7qkdrd90oc88b9r9tsta@4ax.com...
On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 19:46:41 +0200, "ivan" <ivangr@gmail.com> wrote:
<snip a load of self-congratulatory *****>
<sheesh> I can't even imagine the amount of effort it must take to achieve such
a monumental level of stupidity.
Thank you. But why do you find it stupid? You no like what I say?
Or you no like when someone is sure of himself? You think I'm ego
trippin? Pompous? Well... all I can say, errrm 'John' is... grow a brain!
A) this is usenet B) this is IMPERSONAL communication, C) english
is not my native language, D) I'm just poking you, atheists, in the eye.
E) I act like I act, and I don't care what you make of it. I'm just interrested
in your reactions. I mean, your, atheists' reactions. And so far... I may be
silly, but you guys... you are hillarious! And what is MOST important, I bet
my ***** all of you are highly educated and with university diplomas, having
well payed jobs, and living pretty nice lives... but I stress the 'high education'
part. It is a shame to see highly educated people act like they are even dumber
than ME! Now, THAT tells you something. Hahahahaha... man...
Run along now, son, before you embarrass yourself any further.
A) I ain't your fuc*ing son B) YOU ain't my fuc*ing dad C) I
do not run, I walk D) I like being embarassed in front of narrow
minded atheists... anything else? Errm... no, I think that's about it.
Rejoice, brothers and sisters... RE... JOICE!
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28 Aug 2005 07:32:02 PM |
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This ***** is out of his bleeding mind. Wow.
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31 Aug 2005 11:37:49 AM |
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On 28 Aug 2005 17:32:02 -0700, "Chris Johnson" <effigies@gmail.com>
wrote:
This ***** is out of his bleeding mind. Wow.
Ivan hasn't a mind to be out of.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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