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28 Nov 2005 10:42:43 AM |
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Boston: 'Christmas' NOT 'Holiday' Tree. GRRRR |
http://newsbyus.com/more.php?id=822_0_1_0_M
NewsByUs - USA
"‘I'd have cut it down and put it through the chipper,’ Donnie Hatt told a
Canadian newspaper. ‘If they decide it should be a holiday tree, I'll tell
them to send it back. If it was a holiday tree, you might as well put it up
at Easter.’"
The chipper is the fellow from Nova Scotia who provided the huge tree for
Boston’s look-on this season. But don’t call it a "Christmas tree." And
don’t refer to it being displayed for the "Christmas season." And with
anyone standing near its limbs, don’t wish a person a "Merry Christmas."
NOT.
It is a "holiday tree." That’s what makes Hatt so angry. And of course the
rest of biblical Christians join in his disgust and outrage. It’s true. If
it’s only a "holiday tree," then erect it at Easter or Halloween or Spring
Break. Hatt sent it as a gift to the United States as a "Christmas tree."
Period.
But the Boston liberals of course have to get into the act with their push
for secularizing America, making the nation another godless Europe.
However, if the North American Hatts have anything to do with it, the
Judeo-Christian heritage in the USA will stand firmly.
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| User: "Yournameheres personal Cthulhu" |
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| Title: Re: Boston: 'Christmas' NOT 'Holiday' Tree. GRRRR |
28 Nov 2005 11:26:15 AM |
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suddenly spluttered:
http://newsbyus.com/more.php?id=822_0_1_0_M
NewsByUs - USA
"‘I'd have cut it down and put it through the chipper,’ Donnie Hatt told a
Canadian newspaper. ‘If they decide it should be a holiday tree, I'll tell
them to send it back. If it was a holiday tree, you might as well put it up
at Easter.’"
The chipper is the fellow from Nova Scotia who provided the huge tree for
Boston’s look-on this season. But don’t call it a "Christmas tree." And
don’t refer to it being displayed for the "Christmas season." And with
anyone standing near its limbs, don’t wish a person a "Merry Christmas."
NOT.
It is a "holiday tree." That’s what makes Hatt so angry. And of course the
rest of biblical Christians join in his disgust and outrage. It’s true. If
it’s only a "holiday tree," then erect it at Easter or Halloween or Spring
Break. Hatt sent it as a gift to the United States as a "Christmas tree."
Period.
But the Boston liberals of course have to get into the act with their push
for secularizing America, making the nation another godless Europe.
However, if the North American Hatts have anything to do with it, the
Judeo-Christian heritage in the USA will stand firmly.
Why give a toss what a holiday is called? If you can still pronounce
it, you aren't having enough fun.
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Conflict over the exact will/purpose/nature of God cannot ever be
resolved, since there are no facts to go on.
D Silverman FLAHN, SMLAHN
AA #2208
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| User: "Mark S." |
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| Title: Re: Boston: 'Christmas' NOT 'Holiday' Tree. GRRRR |
28 Nov 2005 02:46:57 PM |
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How dare those liberal Bostonians rename their Hanukkah Bush a holiday tree.
What's this world coming to!
"<Yournamehere>'s personal Cthulhu" <yournamehere@martyrdom.org> wrote in
message news:h5plo1hp6rl9do4afb0ucs3djv062ul4ko@4ax.com...
buckeye-ELO@nospam.net suddenly spluttered:
http://newsbyus.com/more.php?id=822_0_1_0_M
NewsByUs - USA
"'I'd have cut it down and put it through the chipper,' Donnie Hatt told a
Canadian newspaper. 'If they decide it should be a holiday tree, I'll tell
them to send it back. If it was a holiday tree, you might as well put it
up
at Easter.'"
The chipper is the fellow from Nova Scotia who provided the huge tree for
Boston's look-on this season. But don't call it a "Christmas tree." And
don't refer to it being displayed for the "Christmas season." And with
anyone standing near its limbs, don't wish a person a "Merry Christmas."
NOT.
It is a "holiday tree." That's what makes Hatt so angry. And of course the
rest of biblical Christians join in his disgust and outrage. It's true. If
it's only a "holiday tree," then erect it at Easter or Halloween or Spring
Break. Hatt sent it as a gift to the United States as a "Christmas tree."
Period.
But the Boston liberals of course have to get into the act with their push
for secularizing America, making the nation another godless Europe.
However, if the North American Hatts have anything to do with it, the
Judeo-Christian heritage in the USA will stand firmly.
Why give a toss what a holiday is called? If you can still pronounce
it, you aren't having enough fun.
------------------------------------------------
Conflict over the exact will/purpose/nature of God cannot ever be
resolved, since there are no facts to go on.
D Silverman FLAHN, SMLAHN
AA #2208
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| User: "LP" |
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| Title: Re: Boston: 'Christmas' NOT 'Holiday' Tree. GRRRR |
28 Nov 2005 07:56:01 PM |
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On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 05:42:43 -0500, wrote:
http://newsbyus.com/more.php?id=822_0_1_0_M
NewsByUs - USA
"‘I'd have cut it down and put it through the chipper,’ Donnie Hatt told a
Canadian newspaper. ‘If they decide it should be a holiday tree, I'll tell
them to send it back. If it was a holiday tree, you might as well put it up
at Easter.’"
CHRISTMAS TREE TRADITION HAS ANCIENT ORIGINS
King Tut never saw a Christmas tree, but he would have understood the
tradition which traces back long before the first Christmas, says
David Robson, Extension Educator, Horticulture with the Springfield
Extension Center.
The Egyptians were part of a long line of cultures that treasured and
worshipped evergreens. When the winter solstice arrive, they brought
green date palm leaves into their homes to symbolize life's triumph
over death.
The Romans celebrated the winter solstice with a fest called
Saturnalia in honor of Saturnus, the god of agriculture. They
decorated their houses with greens and lights and exchanged gifts.
They gave coins for prosperity, pastries for happiness, and lamps to
light one's journey through life.
Centuries ago in Great Britain, woods priests called Druids used
evergreens during mysterious winter solstice rituals. The Druids used
holly and mistletoe as symbols of eternal life, and place evergreen
branches over doors to keep away evil spirits.
Late in the Middle Ages, Germans and Scandinavians placed evergreen
trees inside their homes or just outside their doors to show their
hope in the forthcoming spring. Our modern Christmas tree evolved from
these early traditions.
http://www.christmas-tree.com/where.html
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| User: "Matt Silberstein" |
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| Title: Re: Boston: 'Christmas' NOT 'Holiday' Tree. GRRRR |
28 Nov 2005 07:01:42 PM |
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On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 05:42:43 -0500, in alt.atheism ,
buckeye-ELO@nospam.net in <0pnlo1l9h69k04dqrbbjdj9v2kpm2ltq86@4ax.com>
wrote:
http://newsbyus.com/more.php?id=822_0_1_0_M
NewsByUs - USA
"‘I'd have cut it down and put it through the chipper,’ Donnie Hatt told a
Canadian newspaper. ‘If they decide it should be a holiday tree, I'll tell
them to send it back. If it was a holiday tree, you might as well put it up
at Easter.’"
The chipper is the fellow from Nova Scotia who provided the huge tree for
Boston’s look-on this season. But don’t call it a "Christmas tree." And
don’t refer to it being displayed for the "Christmas season." And with
anyone standing near its limbs, don’t wish a person a "Merry Christmas."
NOT.
It is a "holiday tree." That’s what makes Hatt so angry. And of course the
rest of biblical Christians join in his disgust and outrage. It’s true. If
it’s only a "holiday tree," then erect it at Easter or Halloween or Spring
Break. Hatt sent it as a gift to the United States as a "Christmas tree."
Period.
But the Boston liberals of course have to get into the act with their push
for secularizing America, making the nation another godless Europe.
However, if the North American Hatts have anything to do with it, the
Judeo-Christian heritage in the USA will stand firmly.
You have to wonder where in the Bible the tree is associated with the
birth of Jesus.
--
Matt Silberstein
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http://www.savedarfur.org
"Darfur: A Genocide We can Stop"
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| User: "chris.holt" |
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| Title: Re: Boston: 'Christmas' NOT 'Holiday' Tree. GRRRR |
28 Nov 2005 08:47:33 PM |
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Matt Silberstein wrote:
buckeye-ELO@nospam.net wrote:
It is a "holiday tree." That’s what makes Hatt so angry. And of course the
rest of biblical Christians join in his disgust and outrage. It’s true. If
it’s only a "holiday tree," then erect it at Easter or Halloween or Spring
Break. Hatt sent it as a gift to the United States as a "Christmas tree."
Period.
But the Boston liberals of course have to get into the act with their push
for secularizing America, making the nation another godless Europe.
However, if the North American Hatts have anything to do with it, the
Judeo-Christian heritage in the USA will stand firmly.
You have to wonder where in the Bible the tree is associated with the
birth of Jesus.
I think it's where the dryads and naiads gather around
Jesus's cradle and sing hymns. Then Bacchus comes
along to provide refreshments, which is where Jesus
got the idea from when he had to do something similar.
--
chris.holt@ncl.ac.uk http://homepages.cs.ncl.ac.uk/chris.holt
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