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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass"
Date: 20 Mar 2005 05:41:45 PM
Object: Bowing to HMO Pressure, GOP To Kill Terri Schiavo
GOP hypocrisy: grandstand on one vegetable, but pull the plug on all
others.
===============================================
George Bush signed the law which allows the hospitals to make this
decision:
A patient's INABILITY to PAY for medical care combined with a
prognosis that renders further care futile are two reasons a hospital
might suggest CUTTING OFF life support, the chief medical officer at
St. Luke's Episcopal Hospital said Monday.
Dr. David Pate's comments came as the family of Spiro Nikolouzos
fights to keep St. Luke's from turning off the ventilator and
artificial feedings keeping the 68-year-old grandfather alive.
St. Luke's notified Jannette Nikolouzos in a March 1 letter that it
would withdraw life-sustaining care of her husband of 34 years in 10
days, which would be Friday. Mario Caba-llero, the attorney
representing the family, said he is seeking a two-week extension, at
minimum, to give the man more time to improve and to give his family
more time to find an alternative facility.
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User: "me"

Title: Give doctors the power to end patients lives! 21 Mar 2005 06:03:52 PM
'Doctors should decide when a patient should die - without reference to the patient's
wishes, the wishes of the family, the opinion of other doctors, or any interference from
the law'
Dr Christian Barnard (the famous heart-transplant surgeon) 1990
What say you?
.
User: "If Life Gives You Clayton....Make Claytonaide"

Title: Re: Give doctors the power to end patients lives! 21 Mar 2005 11:35:32 PM
"me" <here@now.com> wrote in message
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'Doctors should decide when a patient should die - without reference to

the patient's

wishes, the wishes of the family, the opinion of other doctors, or any

interference from

the law'

Dr Christian Barnard (the famous heart-transplant surgeon) 1990

What say you?

Doctors should be allowed to administer euthanasia in all appropriate cases
to quickly end suffering, but they shouldn't be given the outright power to
do so on their own. In order the people who should have the right to
decide...
1. the person themself
2. spouse
3. family
4. medical experts
5. courts
..
..
..
wayyyyy down the list
208458437. tape worms in the bowels of dead dogs
208458438. neo-con politicians trying to score votes from the religious
right
208458439. the religious right
208458440. retarded religious fanatic appointed US presidents
208458441. newsgroup trolls
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User: "Michelle Malkin"

Title: Re: Give doctors the power to end patients lives! 21 Mar 2005 10:54:21 PM
"me" <here@now.com> wrote in message
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'Doctors should decide when a patient should die - without reference to

the patient's

wishes, the wishes of the family, the opinion of other doctors, or any

interference from

the law'

Dr Christian Barnard (the famous heart-transplant surgeon) 1990

What say you?

He's definitely wrong. Doctors could decide to end a life just to
save a hospital money.
.

User: "Nivlem"

Title: Re: Give doctors the power to end patients lives! 21 Mar 2005 09:09:33 PM
On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 18:03:52 +0000, "me" <here@now.com>
wrote:




'Doctors should decide when a patient should die - without reference to the patient's
wishes, the wishes of the family, the opinion of other doctors, or any interference from
the law'

Dr Christian Barnard (the famous heart-transplant surgeon) 1990

What say you?

The "Doctor's God Complex" which a great many nurses will
describe to you, was certainly in full-flower in Barnard,
wasn't it?
.

User: "duke"

Title: Re: Give doctors the power to end patients lives! 21 Mar 2005 11:29:03 PM
On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 18:03:52 +0000, "me" <here@now.com> wrote:

'Doctors should decide when a patient should die - without reference to the patient's
wishes, the wishes of the family, the opinion of other doctors, or any interference from
the law'

Dr Christian Barnard (the famous heart-transplant surgeon) 1990

What say you?

They can't. They took an oath to preserve life.
duke
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User: "me"

Title: Terri Sciavo is a conscious human being who doesn't want to die 21 Mar 2005 05:39:43 PM
... or she is a "mindless automaton"?
Or, maybe, she IS sufficiently conscious to understand her predicament and
desparately wants her suffering to end?
Thorough investigation by impartial experts - without interference from legal minds - is
what is required.
.
User: "Michelle Malkin"

Title: Re: Terri Sciavo is a conscious human being who doesn't want to die 21 Mar 2005 10:52:48 PM
"me" <here@now.com> wrote in message
news:423f0597$0$69783$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...


.. or she is a "mindless automaton"?

Or, maybe, she IS sufficiently conscious to understand her predicament and
desparately wants her suffering to end?

She isn't. There isn't enough of her brain left for that possibility.
Parts of her brain literally no longer exist.


Thorough investigation by impartial experts - without interference from

legal minds - is

what is required.

There has been. People just refuse to accept this for their own
reasons - religious or political.
.
User: "me"

Title: Re: Terri Sciavo is a conscious human being who doesn't want to die 21 Mar 2005 11:37:03 PM
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:


"me" <here@now.com> wrote in message
news:423f0597$0$69783$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...


.. or she is a "mindless automaton"?

Or, maybe, she IS sufficiently conscious to understand her predicament and
desparately wants her suffering to end?


She isn't. There isn't enough of her brain left for that possibility.
Parts of her brain literally no longer exist.


Thorough investigation by impartial experts - without interference from

legal minds - is

what is required.


There has been. People just refuse to accept this for their own
reasons - religious or political.

So when her father said she gave a big smile when he told her she was going to get
food he was ???
My wife's consultant told me that her brain was so badly damaged that there was no
possibility of consciousness - 5 minutes later she opened her eyes, lifted herself up on
one arm, pointed straight at the doctor, and said: "Yeah, yeah, yeah" when I said she
was conscious and listening to what was being said.
The next day he took me aside and said that she was "not really conscious".
.
User: "Vic Sagerquist"

Title: Re: Terri Sciavo is a conscious human being who doesn't want to die 22 Mar 2005 05:05:27 AM
On 21 Mar 2005, me dropped trou, farted, whirled, then shouted:



"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:


"me" <here@now.com> wrote in message
news:423f0597$0$69783$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...


.. or she is a "mindless automaton"?

Or, maybe, she IS sufficiently conscious to understand her
predicament and desparately wants her suffering to end?


She isn't. There isn't enough of her brain left for that possibility.
Parts of her brain literally no longer exist.


Thorough investigation by impartial experts - without interference
from

legal minds - is

what is required.


There has been. People just refuse to accept this for their own
reasons - religious or political.


So when her father said she gave a big smile when he told her she was
going to get food he was ???

....thinking wishfully.


My wife's consultant told me that her brain was so badly damaged that
there was no possibility of consciousness - 5 minutes later she opened
her eyes, lifted herself up on one arm, pointed straight at the
doctor, and said: "Yeah, yeah, yeah" when I said she was conscious and
listening to what was being said.

Reflex reaction is all she is capable of. Her ability to interact with
society is the same as a person undergoing open heart surgery on the
operating table, although she will not wake up when the anesthetic wears
off.


The next day he took me aside and said that she was "not really
conscious".

Yeah, yeah, yeah.
--
Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
Plonked by Jason Gastrich for all eternity...
______________
As you were, I was. As I am, you will be.
--- Hunter S. Thompson
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User: "Michelle Malkin"

Title: Re: Terri Sciavo is a conscious human being who doesn't want to die 22 Mar 2005 06:47:36 AM
"Vic Sagerquist" <address@withheld.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9620D6C9A3A54vicman@216.196.97.136...

On 21 Mar 2005, me dropped trou, farted, whirled, then shouted:



"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:


"me" <here@now.com> wrote in message
news:423f0597$0$69783$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...


.. or she is a "mindless automaton"?

Or, maybe, she IS sufficiently conscious to understand her
predicament and desparately wants her suffering to end?


She isn't. There isn't enough of her brain left for that possibility.
Parts of her brain literally no longer exist.


Thorough investigation by impartial experts - without interference
from

legal minds - is

what is required.


There has been. People just refuse to accept this for their own
reasons - religious or political.


So when her father said she gave a big smile when he told her she was
going to get food he was ???

Her nervous system still works. She could have just been
reacting to sounds.


...thinking wishfully.


My wife's consultant told me that her brain was so badly damaged that
there was no possibility of consciousness - 5 minutes later she opened
her eyes, lifted herself up on one arm, pointed straight at the
doctor, and said: "Yeah, yeah, yeah" when I said she was conscious and
listening to what was being said.


Reflex reaction is all she is capable of. Her ability to interact with
society is the same as a person undergoing open heart surgery on the
operating table, although she will not wake up when the anesthetic wears
off.

Most of her brain no longer exists. There is no mind left.
People just don't want to hear this. They've made up their
minds, no matter what the doctors say. And, you'll notice
that most of the people doing this are the same old pack
of religious trolls.



The next day he took me aside and said that she was "not really
conscious".


Yeah, yeah, yeah.


--
Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department

Plonked by Jason Gastrich for all eternity...
______________

As you were, I was. As I am, you will be.
--- Hunter S. Thompson

.
User: "Vic Sagerquist"

Title: Re: Terri Sciavo is a conscious human being who doesn't want to die 22 Mar 2005 06:45:20 PM
on 21 Mar 2005 in alt.atheism, Michelle Malkin dropped trou, farted,
whirled, then shouted:

Reflex reaction is all she is capable of. Her ability to interact with
society is the same as a person undergoing open heart surgery on the
operating table, although she will not wake up when the anesthetic wears
off.


Most of her brain no longer exists. There is no mind left.
People just don't want to hear this. They've made up their
minds, no matter what the doctors say. And, you'll notice
that most of the people doing this are the same old pack
of religious trolls.

Ironically I am reminded of the "right to life" people.
--
Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
Plonked by Jason Gastrich for all eternity...
______________
As you were, I was. As I am, you will be.
--- Hunter S. Thompson
.


User: "me"

Title: The "When is the ***** going to die!" saga (cf Terri Schiavo) 22 Mar 2005 08:07:04 PM
Michael Schiavo has another "side" to him that makes statements like the above.
Of course, those who have reported that he has repeatedly made "abusive" remarks
about his wife are just part of the agenda of the 'Right To Life' people who are using
every trick in the book to get their own way - keeping people alive so that they can
suffer.

.
User: "Nivlem"

Title: Re: The "When is the ***** going to die!" saga (cf Terri Schiavo) 22 Mar 2005 08:37:42 PM
On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 20:07:04 +0000, "me" <here@now.com>
wrote:



Michael Schiavo has another "side" to him that makes statements like the above.

Of course, those who have reported that he has repeatedly made "abusive" remarks
about his wife are just part of the agenda of the 'Right To Life' people who are using
every trick in the book to get their own way - keeping people alive so that they can
suffer.

But what has that to do with the fact that Schiavo's brain
has gone, and all we're preserving is a lump of meat? Even
if all the ***** spewed about Mikchael Schiavo were to be
100% true, it does not alter the fact that keeping a turnip
alive at $80,000 a year of medicaid makes absolutely no
fucking sense. If she could even blink her eyes on command,
then fine. But that's not what we're talking about. No
brain! No feelings. No awareness. No recovery, ever. Totally
hopeless. Terri isn't there anymore. Her parents need to be
*****-slapped.
.

User: "TCS"

Title: Re: The "When is the ***** going to die!" saga (cf Terri Schiavo) 22 Mar 2005 08:45:34 PM
On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 20:07:04 +0000, me <here@now.com> wrote:

Michael Schiavo has another "side" to him that makes statements like the above.
Of course, those who have reported that he has repeatedly made "abusive" remarks
about his wife are just part of the agenda of the 'Right To Life' people who are using
every trick in the book to get their own way - keeping people alive so that they can
suffer.

What life? The wife is a breathing corpse.
The only reason anybody thinks the body is alive is due to a 2nd century
education. They're still having problems with the discovery of the brain.
.
User: "me"

Title: Re: The "When is the ***** going to die!" saga (cf Terri Schiavo) 22 Mar 2005 10:18:15 PM
TCS <The-Central-Scrutinizer@p.o.b.o.x.com> wrote:

On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 20:07:04 +0000, me <here@now.com> wrote:


Michael Schiavo has another "side" to him that makes statements like the above.


Of course, those who have reported that he has repeatedly made "abusive" remarks
about his wife are just part of the agenda of the 'Right To Life' people who are using
every trick in the book to get their own way - keeping people alive so that they can
suffer.


What life? The wife is a breathing corpse.

The only reason anybody thinks the body is alive is due to a 2nd century
education. They're still having problems with the discovery of the brain.

'Terri's 1996 brain scan shows 75% normal brain tissue; not scar tissue. It is not all fluid.
That report is bogus. Her cortex is not missing; not at all. Some areas are thinned,
probably due to hydrocephalus, with the fluid pushing against her brain. She is
functioning. That is what is important. I have seen people a lot worse than her, and
they are talking. A brain scan taken two years ago showed improvement.'
Well?
Who is telling the truth?
.
User: "Nivlem"

Title: Re: The "When is the ***** going to die!" saga (cf Terri Schiavo) 22 Mar 2005 10:53:30 PM
On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 22:18:15 +0000, "me" <here@now.com>
wrote:



TCS <The-Central-Scrutinizer@p.o.b.o.x.com> wrote:

On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 20:07:04 +0000, me <here@now.com> wrote:


Michael Schiavo has another "side" to him that makes statements like the above.


Of course, those who have reported that he has repeatedly made "abusive" remarks
about his wife are just part of the agenda of the 'Right To Life' people who are using
every trick in the book to get their own way - keeping people alive so that they can
suffer.


What life? The wife is a breathing corpse.

The only reason anybody thinks the body is alive is due to a 2nd century
education. They're still having problems with the discovery of the brain.


'Terri's 1996 brain scan shows 75% normal brain tissue; not scar tissue. It is not all fluid.
That report is bogus. Her cortex is not missing; not at all. Some areas are thinned,
probably due to hydrocephalus, with the fluid pushing against her brain. She is
functioning. That is what is important. I have seen people a lot worse than her, and
they are talking. A brain scan taken two years ago showed improvement.'

Well?

Who is telling the truth?

Unless you state your source so we can see for ourselves,
the presumption is that you are.
.
User: "Nivlem"

Title: Re: The "When is the ***** going to die!" saga (cf Terri Schiavo) 22 Mar 2005 11:09:25 PM
On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:53:30 -0800, Nivlem <mlml@svn.net>
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 22:18:15 +0000, "me" <here@now.com>
wrote:



TCS <The-Central-Scrutinizer@p.o.b.o.x.com> wrote:

On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 20:07:04 +0000, me <here@now.com> wrote:


Michael Schiavo has another "side" to him that makes statements like the above.


Of course, those who have reported that he has repeatedly made "abusive" remarks
about his wife are just part of the agenda of the 'Right To Life' people who are using
every trick in the book to get their own way - keeping people alive so that they can
suffer.


What life? The wife is a breathing corpse.

The only reason anybody thinks the body is alive is due to a 2nd century
education. They're still having problems with the discovery of the brain.


'Terri's 1996 brain scan shows 75% normal brain tissue; not scar tissue. It is not all fluid.
That report is bogus. Her cortex is not missing; not at all. Some areas are thinned,
probably due to hydrocephalus, with the fluid pushing against her brain. She is
functioning. That is what is important. I have seen people a lot worse than her, and
they are talking. A brain scan taken two years ago showed improvement.'

Well?

Who is telling the truth?


Unless you state your source so we can see for ourselves,
the presumption is that you are.

Damn. Forgot to put the "not" on the end of the above. Also,
note that that's 1996. It's 9 years later. Any sign of
improvement? She obviously isn't talking. Undoctored video
evidence also demonstrates she isn't functioning. It would
tend to lead one to suspect that the other claims might be
taken with a grain of salt. I'm giving up now. You're an
utterly, deluded, hopeless fuckwit. everything that you put
up gets shot down, and then you just trundle out the next
bit of *****. Desperate clinging to unfounded belief is a
terribly sad thing to witness.
.





User: "me"

Title: Re: Terri Sciavo is a conscious human being who doesn't want to die 22 Mar 2005 06:29:35 AM
Vic Sagerquist <address@withheld.com> wrote:

On 21 Mar 2005, me dropped trou, farted, whirled, then shouted:



"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:


"me" <here@now.com> wrote in message
news:423f0597$0$69783$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...


.. or she is a "mindless automaton"?

Or, maybe, she IS sufficiently conscious to understand her
predicament and desparately wants her suffering to end?


She isn't. There isn't enough of her brain left for that possibility.
Parts of her brain literally no longer exist.


Thorough investigation by impartial experts - without interference
from

legal minds - is

what is required.


There has been. People just refuse to accept this for their own
reasons - religious or political.


So when her father said she gave a big smile when he told her she was
going to get food he was ???


....thinking wishfully.


My wife's consultant told me that her brain was so badly damaged that
there was no possibility of consciousness - 5 minutes later she opened
her eyes, lifted herself up on one arm, pointed straight at the
doctor, and said: "Yeah, yeah, yeah" when I said she was conscious and
listening to what was being said.


Reflex reaction is all she is capable of. Her ability to interact with
society is the same as a person undergoing open heart surgery on the
operating table, although she will not wake up when the anesthetic wears
off.


The next day he took me aside and said that she was "not really
conscious".


Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Ultimately it is all about whether or not those who are capable of killing should take the
lead in the world of medicine.
What say you?
Just think of how much better the world would be if all these troublesome physical and
mental cripples didn't exist?
As Dr Christian Barnard (the famous heart-tramsplant surgeon) said in 1990
'Doctors should decide when a patient should die. Without reference to the patient's
wishes, the wishes of the family, the opinion of other doctors, or any interference from
the law'
You would be surprised how many doctors agree with the above.
My phone rang:
"Corinne is breathing her last breath!", said the nurse.
She sounded triumphant, excited. She was enjoying participating in the engineering of
the death of a fellow human being.
I had been with my wife for ten years, 24 hours a day.
Can you imagine that?
During the last 4 years of her life she could not feed herself.
She could not walk.
She could not engage in conversation with anybody other than myself.
Only I understood what she was talking about because she was constantly referring to
things that had happened when only I was present
Everyday I took her out. She liked being with people.
I used to feed her in public. Spoonful by spoonful.
One day a woman asked "What's wrong with her?"
"Tell her", I said to Corinne.
Corinne fixed with with a direct gaze and said:
"I've got rabies!"
A woman gives her a nasty look as she approaches us
"Toulouse Le Trec doesn't like me", says Corinne.
Now that IS smart, eh?



--
Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department

Plonked by Jason Gastrich for all eternity...
______________

As you were, I was. As I am, you will be.
--- Hunter S. Thompson

.
User: "Vic Sagerquist"

Title: Re: Terri Sciavo is a conscious human being who doesn't want to die 22 Mar 2005 06:44:12 PM
on 21 Mar 2005 in alt.atheism, me dropped trou, farted, whirled, then
shouted:

Ultimately it is all about whether or not those who are capable of
killing should take the lead in the world of medicine.

What say you?

Survival only by means of being hooked up to a machine is fine if it can be
justified by a resultant quality of life.
--
Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
Plonked by Jason Gastrich for all eternity...
______________
As you were, I was. As I am, you will be.
--- Hunter S. Thompson
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Terri Sciavo is a conscious human being who doesn't want to die 23 Mar 2005 02:43:39 PM
Vic Sagerquist wrote:

on 21 Mar 2005 in alt.atheism, me dropped trou, farted, whirled, then
shouted:

Ultimately it is all about whether or not those who are capable of
killing should take the lead in the world of medicine.

What say you?


Survival only by means of being hooked up to a machine is fine if it

can be

justified by a resultant quality of life.

--
Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department

Plonked by Jason Gastrich for all eternity...
______________

As you were, I was. As I am, you will be.
--- Hunter S. Thompson

.






User: "Incubus"

Title: Re: Terri Sciavo is a conscious human being who doesn't want to die 21 Mar 2005 07:17:05 PM
me wrote:

.. or she is a "mindless automaton"?

Or, maybe, she IS sufficiently conscious to understand her predicament and
desparately wants her suffering to end?

Thorough investigation by impartial experts - without interference from legal minds - is
what is required.

Husband and wife are reasonably considered one.
.


User: "God"

Title: Re: Bowing to HMO Pressure, GOP To Kill Terri Schiavo 21 Mar 2005 12:25:43 AM
People who cannot look after themselves have a right to life only if someone is
prepared to pay for it. Those who do not have financial support cannot expect to be
kept alive. BUT - in the case of Terri Schiavo tens of millions could easily be raised to
provide for her support. The issue is that those who seek Terri's death are seeking to
change the constitution in their favour.
The language that is being banded about is this case is really wild. Felos (the
guy who started it all) sounds like a Nazi! He is accusing the American government of
engaging in "thuggery" and behaving like "Stalinists".
I bet that came out a book he has read about Nazism?
"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:

GOP hypocrisy: grandstand on one vegetable, but pull the plug on all
others.

===============================================
George Bush signed the law which allows the hospitals to make this
decision:

A patient's INABILITY to PAY for medical care combined with a
prognosis that renders further care futile are two reasons a hospital
might suggest CUTTING OFF life support, the chief medical officer at
St. Luke's Episcopal Hospital said Monday.

Dr. David Pate's comments came as the family of Spiro Nikolouzos
fights to keep St. Luke's from turning off the ventilator and
artificial feedings keeping the 68-year-old grandfather alive.

St. Luke's notified Jannette Nikolouzos in a March 1 letter that it
would withdraw life-sustaining care of her husband of 34 years in 10
days, which would be Friday. Mario Caba-llero, the attorney
representing the family, said he is seeking a two-week extension, at
minimum, to give the man more time to improve and to give his family
more time to find an alternative facility.
===============================================
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EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
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aka Yang's

little poltregeist *****)


The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.6 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and

counting

The Bush Iraq lie: -1519 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and

mounting


Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless

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User: "GlennGlenn"

Title: Re: Bowing to HMO Pressure, GOP To Kill Terri Schiavo 21 Mar 2005 12:45:38 AM
In article <423e143b$0$75897$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com>, God
<here@now.com> wrote:

People who cannot look after themselves have a right to life only if
someone is prepared to pay for it. Those who do not have financial
support cannot expect to be kept alive.

So it's not really the alleged sanctity of human life that's the issue
here?
--
GlennGlenn -- aa#825 --

I am not famous, I am notorious. And if I am rich, it is because I have taken
my wages in people.
‹ Quentin Crisp
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User: "me"

Title: George Felos 21 Mar 2005 05:51:01 PM
Re: The Terri Schiavo case
What are your thoughts about George Felos?
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