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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "J Young"
Date: 09 Oct 2006 01:48:57 PM
Object: Boy awakens after 22 months in coma
This boy can thank his lucky stars that he lives in Oregon and not Florida;
otherwise they'd have starved him to death ages ago. ( re: Terry Schiavo )
http://www.katu.com/news/4338107.html
YAMHILL, Ore. (AP) - During the 22 months when her young son lay in a
Gresham nursing home, trapped in an unexplainable coma, Yamhill resident
Carla Rivers turned down offers from prospective buyers of the small,
hot-pink motorcycle that he had loved.
"We knew he'd want to ride it again," Rivers said.
And, after two years of visits to his sick bed and prayers from their church
and cards from the school friends Devon Rivers left behind when he was
sickened with his mysterious illness, the 11-year-old awoke.
Until Oct. 7, 2004, Devon Rivers was an active, happy child, who loved
Scouts and sports, school and church, riding his bike and playing with his
baby brother, Brakken. He was the kid of kid that when he ran out of things
to put together, he took things apart so he could put them together again.
All that changed the day his mother and father rushed him to the emergency
room, where doctors made an initial diagnosis of rheumatic fever and
prescribed antibiotics.
Five days later, Devon's condition worsened and he started having trouble
breathing on his own. On Oct. 17, he lapsed into the coma.
Medics sent samples of Devon's spinal fluid to labs across the country,
trying to figure out what was causing his illness. But every test - from
West Nile virus to lead poisoning - came back negative.
Doctors guessed he had a viral illness. But they never were able to pinpoint
what it was or what had caused it.
Eventually, he was moved to a pediatric nursing care center, where he
received daily physical therapy that kept his muscles from atrophying and
his joints from locking up.
Yet every time doctors checked on him, they had the same prognosis: Devon
was in a persistent vegetative state, and it was doubtful that he would ever
recover.
For two years, friends and family members shuttled back and forth between
Yamhill and the nursing home, bearing stuff animals and posters, blessings
and prayers.
Carla Rivers visited her son at least twice a week, carrying on a one-sided
conversation on the assumption that coma victims retain their hearing.
One Friday in late August, she told Devon the family was heading for Utah
for a wedding.
As she spoke, she remembered, it seemed as though her son was actually
looking at her, and that his breathing seemed different, as if he weren't
relying so much on the tracheal tube.
A few days later, the Rivers family got the news: Devon was indeed breathing
on his own, a very positive sign.
In the weeks since then, Devon has made a great deal of progress, so much
that his parents are hoping he'll soon be able to relearn skills like using
a spoon and brushing his teeth.
His parents say it all seems like a "walk on water" miracle.
"We want to know what's going on with him, when he can come home, what more
we can expect," Rivers said.
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J Yöung
youngopinions@aol.com
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User: "Geoff"

Title: Re: Boy awakens after 22 months in coma 09 Oct 2006 03:28:26 PM
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:KuqdnROCeMVjBLfYnZ2dnUVZ_qqdnZ2d@giganews.com...

This boy can thank his lucky stars that he lives in Oregon and not
Florida;
otherwise they'd have starved him to death ages ago. ( re: Terry Schiavo )

You're an idiot.
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User: "Parsifal"

Title: Re: Boy awakens after 22 months in coma 10 Oct 2006 12:59:44 AM
J Young a =E9crit :

This boy can thank his lucky stars that he lives in Oregon and not Florid=

a;

otherwise they'd have starved him to death ages ago. ( re: Terry Schiavo )

Is this the best you can do to get your daily load of insults? Re-using
the same lies, the same stories... Come on, nazi turd, you can do
better than that?
How about something racist or homophobic?
Oh, and is there a way to put YOU into a coma and let you starve to
death?






http://www.katu.com/news/4338107.html







YAMHILL, Ore. (AP) - During the 22 months when her young son lay in a
Gresham nursing home, trapped in an unexplainable coma, Yamhill resident
Carla Rivers turned down offers from prospective buyers of the small,
hot-pink motorcycle that he had loved.

"We knew he'd want to ride it again," Rivers said.

And, after two years of visits to his sick bed and prayers from their chu=

rch

and cards from the school friends Devon Rivers left behind when he was
sickened with his mysterious illness, the 11-year-old awoke.

Until Oct. 7, 2004, Devon Rivers was an active, happy child, who loved
Scouts and sports, school and church, riding his bike and playing with his
baby brother, Brakken. He was the kid of kid that when he ran out of thin=

gs

to put together, he took things apart so he could put them together again.

All that changed the day his mother and father rushed him to the emergency
room, where doctors made an initial diagnosis of rheumatic fever and
prescribed antibiotics.

Five days later, Devon's condition worsened and he started having trouble
breathing on his own. On Oct. 17, he lapsed into the coma.

Medics sent samples of Devon's spinal fluid to labs across the country,
trying to figure out what was causing his illness. But every test - from
West Nile virus to lead poisoning - came back negative.

Doctors guessed he had a viral illness. But they never were able to pinpo=

int

what it was or what had caused it.

Eventually, he was moved to a pediatric nursing care center, where he
received daily physical therapy that kept his muscles from atrophying and
his joints from locking up.

Yet every time doctors checked on him, they had the same prognosis: Devon
was in a persistent vegetative state, and it was doubtful that he would e=

ver

recover.

For two years, friends and family members shuttled back and forth between
Yamhill and the nursing home, bearing stuff animals and posters, blessings
and prayers.

Carla Rivers visited her son at least twice a week, carrying on a one-sid=

ed

conversation on the assumption that coma victims retain their hearing.

One Friday in late August, she told Devon the family was heading for Utah
for a wedding.

As she spoke, she remembered, it seemed as though her son was actually
looking at her, and that his breathing seemed different, as if he weren't
relying so much on the tracheal tube.

A few days later, the Rivers family got the news: Devon was indeed breath=

ing

on his own, a very positive sign.

In the weeks since then, Devon has made a great deal of progress, so much
that his parents are hoping he'll soon be able to relearn skills like usi=

ng

a spoon and brushing his teeth.

His parents say it all seems like a "walk on water" miracle.

"We want to know what's going on with him, when he can come home, what mo=

re

we can expect," Rivers said.


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J Y=F6ung
youngopinions@aol.com

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User: "JTEM"

Title: Re: Boy awakens after 22 months in coma 11 Oct 2006 03:27:45 PM
J Young wrote:

This boy can thank his lucky stars that he lives in
Oregon and not Florida; otherwise they'd have
starved him to death ages ago. ( re: Terry Schiavo )

So now it's Jesus who thrives on lies? Wow. It sure
is weird how you guys turned that one around...
Terry Schiavo was in coma for some 15 years. A
persistant vegetative state is determined after five
years. This boy was in a coma for less than two
years.
*Zero* similarities.
And, oh: If Terry Schiavo had been poor and in
Texas, she would have had her feeding tube ripped
out years ago... some months after Bush signed
that law ordering it.
If they determine your condition to be hopeless --
like the persistant vegetative state Terry Shiavo
was in -- and you don't have the cash, under the
Texas law that Bush signed as governor the plug
must be pulled.
Just ask the mother of Sun Hudson, the little six
month old baby boy she saw die as the doctors
removed his tube.
She fought Bush's law. She exhausted every appeal.
Then, even as Bush and his Republican congress
cried were crying their crocodile tears for Terry, her
son was killed under Bush's law.
And, yeah, it happened as Bush and his congress
were faking concern for Terry -- literally at the same
time.
Gee, it's almost as if the Republicans set out to
intentionally make headlines, keeping another
story (Sun Hudson) off the fron pages...
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User: "JohnN"

Title: Re: Boy awakens after 22 months in coma 09 Oct 2006 01:55:09 PM
J Young wrote:

This boy can thank his lucky stars that he lives in Oregon and not Florida;
otherwise they'd have starved him to death ages ago. ( re: Terry Schiavo )

And if he had been in Texas and his parents could not afford the
medical care, the hospital, with the blessing of the state (and former
Gov. Bush) would have pulled the plug.
JohnN
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User: "gatt"

Title: Re: Boy awakens after 22 months in coma 09 Oct 2006 01:57:08 PM

J Young wrote:

This boy can thank his lucky stars that he lives in Oregon and not
Florida;
otherwise they'd have starved him to death ages ago.

Actually, the most they could have starved him to death is 22 months ago.
Idiot.
-c
.
User: "J Young"

Title: Re: Boy awakens after 22 months in coma 09 Oct 2006 01:59:21 PM
"gatt" <LiveFromTheClocktower@gfy.com> wrote in message
news:8YwWg.2629$Ka1.2254@news01.roc.ny...



J Young wrote:

This boy can thank his lucky stars that he lives in Oregon and not
Florida;
otherwise they'd have starved him to death ages ago.


Actually, the most they could have starved him to death is 22 months ago.

and.............?


Idiot.

Nice sig.
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Boy awakens after 22 months in coma 09 Oct 2006 03:25:10 PM
J Young wrote:

"gatt" <LiveFromTheClocktower@gfy.com> wrote in message
news:8YwWg.2629$Ka1.2254@news01.roc.ny...



J Young wrote:

This boy can thank his lucky stars that he lives in Oregon and not
Florida;
otherwise they'd have starved him to death ages ago.


Actually, the most they could have starved him to death is 22 months ago.




and.............?



And, you apparently have nothing to say in response to what John N
said. What if the boy lived in Texas and his parents couldn't afford
the hospital bills?
.

User: "bob young"

Title: Re: Boy awakens after 22 months in coma 10 Oct 2006 12:50:02 AM
J Young wrote:

"gatt" <LiveFromTheClocktower@gfy.com> wrote in message
news:8YwWg.2629$Ka1.2254@news01.roc.ny...



J Young wrote:

This boy can thank his lucky stars that he lives in Oregon and not
Florida;
otherwise they'd have starved him to death ages ago.


Actually, the most they could have starved him to death is 22 months ago.


and.............?


Idiot.


Nice sig.

It was 'spot on' brother
Bob Young
.


User: "Miriam Cohen"

Title: Re: Boy awakens after 22 months in coma 09 Oct 2006 05:23:08 PM
gatt wrote:

J Young wrote:

This boy can thank his lucky stars that he lives in Oregon and not
Florida;
otherwise they'd have starved him to death ages ago.



Actually, the most they could have starved him to death is 22 months ago.

Idiot.

It is truly sad that this miracle has happened and Jon uses it for
political posturing. Jon, I'm sure that somewhere there *MUST* be a
lower life form than you but I sure can't think of one. You are a truly
vile hateful being. Is your "g-d" proud of your vileness? If so, he's as
vile as you.
--
L'Chaim
Miriam
In the beginning
the Word already was.
.


User: "bob young"

Title: Re: Boy awakens after 22 months in coma 10 Oct 2006 12:49:02 AM
JohnN wrote:

J Young wrote:

This boy can thank his lucky stars that he lives in Oregon and not Florida;
otherwise they'd have starved him to death ages ago. ( re: Terry Schiavo )


And if he had been in Texas and his parents could not afford the
medical care, the hospital, with the blessing of the state (and former
Gov. Bush) would have pulled the plug.

JohnN

Those religious types used to sacrifice children to their gods
a thousand or so years ago didn't they?
Historically the 'religious teams' have moved their goal posts more than any
other.
" Damn that mythology, it will keep gettin me into trouble "
.


User: "Conspiracy of Doves"

Title: Re: Boy awakens after 22 months in coma 09 Oct 2006 03:00:39 PM
J Young wrote:

This boy can thank his lucky stars that he lives in Oregon and not Florida;
otherwise they'd have starved him to death ages ago. ( re: Terry Schiavo )

Terry Schiavo was not in a coma. She was brain dead.
Moron.
.
User: "Miriam Cohen"

Title: Re: Boy awakens after 22 months in coma 09 Oct 2006 05:25:44 PM
Conspiracy of Doves wrote:

J Young wrote:

This boy can thank his lucky stars that he lives in Oregon and not Florida;
otherwise they'd have starved him to death ages ago. ( re: Terry Schiavo )



Terry Schiavo was not in a coma. She was brain dead.

Moron.

Everyone except Jon Young knows this.
--
L'Chaim
Miriam
In the beginning
the Word already was.
.
User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: Boy awakens after 22 months in coma 11 Oct 2006 10:34:39 AM
On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 15:25:44 -0700, Miriam Cohen wrote:

Conspiracy of Doves wrote:

J Young wrote:

This boy can thank his lucky stars that he lives in Oregon and not Florida;
otherwise they'd have starved him to death ages ago. ( re: Terry Schiavo )



Terry Schiavo was not in a coma. She was brain dead.

Moron.


Everyone except Jon Young knows this.

Well, the idea of pulling the plug on the brain dead has him seriously
worried...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
"As hip as it is for outsiders to blame New Orleans
for everything bad that happened during and after
Hurricane Katrina, the truth is that the people
who lived here were much more prepared for a big
storm than the federal government that promised
us flood protection." [Jarvis DeBerry]
http://makeashorterlink.com/?V180525DC
"Everything New Orleans"
http://www.nola.com
.
User: "Miriam Cohen"

Title: Re: Boy awakens after 22 months in coma 11 Oct 2006 05:10:47 PM
Mark K. Bilbo wrote:

On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 15:25:44 -0700, Miriam Cohen wrote:


Conspiracy of Doves wrote:

J Young wrote:


This boy can thank his lucky stars that he lives in Oregon and not Florida;
otherwise they'd have starved him to death ages ago. ( re: Terry Schiavo )



Terry Schiavo was not in a coma. She was brain dead.

Moron.


Everyone except Jon Young knows this.



Well, the idea of pulling the plug on the brain dead has him seriously
worried...

It's easy to see why. :)
--
L'Chaim
Miriam
In the beginning
the Word already was.
.



User: "Larry Scratch"

Title: Re: Boy awakens after 22 months in coma 09 Oct 2006 06:44:04 PM
Conspiracy of Doves wrote:

J Young wrote:

This boy can thank his lucky stars that he lives in Oregon and not Florida;
otherwise they'd have starved him to death ages ago. ( re: Terry Schiavo )


Terry Schiavo was not in a coma. She was brain dead.

Moron.

Much like you!
--
“Show me just what Muhammad brought that was new, and then you shall
find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the
sword the faith he preached.”
Byzantine emperor Manuel II Palaeologus
.


User: "Pastor Kutchie"

Title: Re: Boy awakens after 22 months in coma 09 Oct 2006 03:22:06 PM
J Young wrote:

This boy can thank his lucky stars that he lives in Oregon and not Florida;
otherwise they'd have starved him to death ages ago. ( re: Terry Schiavo )

Yawn <snip>.
*****, lying Christian sack of *****.
.

User: "Douglas Berry"

Title: Re: Boy awakens after 22 months in coma 09 Oct 2006 06:43:13 PM
On Mon, 9 Oct 2006 14:48:57 -0400 "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
said the following in alt.atheism and I was immediately reminded of
1,000 Chinchillas singing Handel's "Messiah" for some reason...

This boy can thank his lucky stars that he lives in Oregon and not Florida;
otherwise they'd have starved him to death ages ago. ( re: Terry Schiavo )

Well, you've proven yourself to be a typical ignorant moron again.
Mrs. Schiavo was in a persistant vegetative state. Not a coma. The
two things are completely different.
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2011
"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the
source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a
stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as
good as dead: his eyes are closed." - Albert Einstein
.

User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: Boy awakens after 22 months in coma 11 Oct 2006 10:32:37 AM
On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 14:48:57 -0400, J Young wrote:

This boy can thank his lucky stars that he lives in Oregon and not Florida;

By the way, good thing he doesn't like in Texas or the law signed by
George Bush could have been used to pull the plug on him years ago...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
"As hip as it is for outsiders to blame New Orleans
for everything bad that happened during and after
Hurricane Katrina, the truth is that the people
who lived here were much more prepared for a big
storm than the federal government that promised
us flood protection." [Jarvis DeBerry]
http://makeashorterlink.com/?V180525DC
"Everything New Orleans"
http://www.nola.com
.

User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: Boy awakens after 22 months in coma 11 Oct 2006 10:31:46 AM
On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 14:48:57 -0400, J Young wrote:

This boy can thank his lucky stars that he lives in Oregon and not Florida;
otherwise they'd have starved him to death ages ago. ( re: Terry Schiavo )

Schiavo was NOT in a coma. She was brain dead. The autopsy was the last
nail in that coffin.
You aren't keeping up with the religious reich lie of the week memo, they
ran from that case when the autopsy came in...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
"As hip as it is for outsiders to blame New Orleans
for everything bad that happened during and after
Hurricane Katrina, the truth is that the people
who lived here were much more prepared for a big
storm than the federal government that promised
us flood protection." [Jarvis DeBerry]
http://makeashorterlink.com/?V180525DC
"Everything New Orleans"
http://www.nola.com
.
User: "Dana"

Title: Re: Boy awakens after 22 months in coma 11 Oct 2006 01:38:37 PM
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
news:56idnfZsVIr_k7DYnZ2dnUVZ_uWdnZ2d@giganews.com...

On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 14:48:57 -0400, J Young wrote:

This boy can thank his lucky stars that he lives in Oregon and not

Florida;

otherwise they'd have starved him to death ages ago. ( re: Terry

Schiavo )


Schiavo was NOT in a coma. She was brain dead. The autopsy was the last
nail in that coffin.

You still do not get it.
The argument was over who gets to decide, a lot of us were on the side that
Blood family decides, not some guy who may have been responsible for her
condition.
The second issue was the method, we should not allow people to be starved to
death, that is cruel and inhumane, even if the person is a vegatative state.
.
User: "Robibnikoff"

Title: Re: Boy awakens after 22 months in coma 12 Oct 2006 02:46:38 PM
"Dana" <raff242@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
news:56idnfZsVIr_k7DYnZ2dnUVZ_uWdnZ2d@giganews.com...

On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 14:48:57 -0400, J Young wrote:

This boy can thank his lucky stars that he lives in Oregon and not

Florida;

otherwise they'd have starved him to death ages ago. ( re: Terry

Schiavo )


Schiavo was NOT in a coma. She was brain dead. The autopsy was the last
nail in that coffin.


You still do not get it.
The argument was over who gets to decide, a lot of us were on the side
that
Blood family decides, not some guy who may have been responsible for her
condition.

He gave her bulimia? Who knew!

The second issue was the method, we should not allow people to be starved
to
death, that is cruel and inhumane, even if the person is a vegatative
state.

Your opinion
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
.
User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: Boy awakens after 22 months in coma 12 Oct 2006 05:11:15 PM
On Thu, 12 Oct 2006 15:46:38 -0400, Robibnikoff wrote:


"Dana" <raff242@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
news:56idnfZsVIr_k7DYnZ2dnUVZ_uWdnZ2d@giganews.com...

On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 14:48:57 -0400, J Young wrote:

This boy can thank his lucky stars that he lives in Oregon and not

Florida;

otherwise they'd have starved him to death ages ago. ( re: Terry

Schiavo )


Schiavo was NOT in a coma. She was brain dead. The autopsy was the last
nail in that coffin.


You still do not get it.
The argument was over who gets to decide, a lot of us were on the side
that
Blood family decides, not some guy who may have been responsible for her
condition.


He gave her bulimia? Who knew!

Wouldn't that involve sticking his finger...
Okay, I just grossed myself out...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
"As hip as it is for outsiders to blame New Orleans
for everything bad that happened during and after
Hurricane Katrina, the truth is that the people
who lived here were much more prepared for a big
storm than the federal government that promised
us flood protection." [Jarvis DeBerry]
http://makeashorterlink.com/?V180525DC
"Everything New Orleans"
http://www.nola.com
.
User: "Robibnikoff"

Title: Re: Boy awakens after 22 months in coma 13 Oct 2006 11:26:40 AM
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
news:1-udnXEANrkeILPYnZ2dnUVZ_vOdnZ2d@giganews.com...

On Thu, 12 Oct 2006 15:46:38 -0400, Robibnikoff wrote:


"Dana" <raff242@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:12iqef9to7hs737@corp.supernews.com...


"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
news:56idnfZsVIr_k7DYnZ2dnUVZ_uWdnZ2d@giganews.com...

On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 14:48:57 -0400, J Young wrote:

This boy can thank his lucky stars that he lives in Oregon and not

Florida;

otherwise they'd have starved him to death ages ago. ( re: Terry

Schiavo )


Schiavo was NOT in a coma. She was brain dead. The autopsy was the last
nail in that coffin.


You still do not get it.
The argument was over who gets to decide, a lot of us were on the side
that
Blood family decides, not some guy who may have been responsible for her
condition.


He gave her bulimia? Who knew!


Wouldn't that involve sticking his finger...

No, no. A tooth brush works MUCH better.


Okay, I just grossed myself out...

Heehee! :)
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
.



User: "Miriam Cohen"

Title: Re: Boy awakens after 22 months in coma 11 Oct 2006 05:13:49 PM
Dana wrote:

"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
news:56idnfZsVIr_k7DYnZ2dnUVZ_uWdnZ2d@giganews.com...

On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 14:48:57 -0400, J Young wrote:


This boy can thank his lucky stars that he lives in Oregon and not


Florida;

otherwise they'd have starved him to death ages ago. ( re: Terry


Schiavo )

Schiavo was NOT in a coma. She was brain dead. The autopsy was the last
nail in that coffin.



You still do not get it.
The argument was over who gets to decide, a lot of us were on the side that
Blood family decides, not some guy who may have been responsible for her
condition.

Now this is a most interesting (and stupid) comment. How in the hell
could he possibly be responsible for her being anorexic / bulimic?

The second issue was the method, we should not allow people to be starved to
death, that is cruel and inhumane, even if the person is a vegatative state.

Having a liquid brain is not a vegetative state, having a liquid brain
is being *DEAD* jeez you fucking morons are so completely insane.
--
L'Chaim
Miriam
In the beginning
the Word already was.
.

User: "Don Homuth"

Title: Re: Boy awakens after 22 months in coma 11 Oct 2006 01:48:04 PM
On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 10:38:37 -0800, "Dana" <raff242@yahoo.com> wrote:


"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
news:56idnfZsVIr_k7DYnZ2dnUVZ_uWdnZ2d@giganews.com...

Schiavo was NOT in a coma. She was brain dead. The autopsy was the last
nail in that coffin.


You still do not get it.
The argument was over who gets to decide, a lot of us were on the side that
Blood family decides,

You are incorrect entirely, both legally and scripturally, if it comes
to that.

not some guy who may have been responsible for her
condition.

A base canard, for which neither you nor anyone else has any Actual
Evidence to provide.

The second issue was the method, we should not allow people to be starved to
death,

It's otherwise called Letting Nature Take Its Course.
When any organism can no longer ingest food, it dies. Works for lower
and higher life forms alike.

that is cruel and inhumane, even if the person is a vegatative state.

So, you're into Forced Feeding are you?
That may also be construed as cruel and inhumane.
Forced Feeding is also Medical Treatment. The one and only individual
with the legal authority and responsibility to determine further
medical treatment was Teri's husband. Not her parents.
He could have decided the other way, but he didn't. It was always his
decision to make. Not her parents. Not yours. Not mine. Not the
State of Florida. Not Dubya's.
His and his alone.
You disagreed. That's OK. But you do Not control the decision.
.
User: "Dana"

Title: Re: Boy awakens after 22 months in coma 11 Oct 2006 02:27:35 PM
"Don Homuth" <dhomuth1@comcast.net> wrote in message
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On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 10:38:37 -0800, "Dana" <raff242@yahoo.com> wrote:


"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
news:56idnfZsVIr_k7DYnZ2dnUVZ_uWdnZ2d@giganews.com...


Schiavo was NOT in a coma. She was brain dead. The autopsy was the last
nail in that coffin.


You still do not get it.
The argument was over who gets to decide, a lot of us were on the side

that

Blood family decides,


You are incorrect entirely, both legally and scripturally, if it comes
to that.

Nope, blood family comes first.


not some guy who may have been responsible for her
condition.


A base canard, for which neither you nor anyone else has any Actual
Evidence to provide.

Enough circumstantial


The second issue was the method, we should not allow people to be starved

to

death,


It's otherwise called Letting Nature Take Its Course.

It is still inhumane. We do not do that to convicted killers


that is cruel and inhumane, even if the person is a vegatative state.


So, you're into Forced Feeding are you?

That is not inhumane
.
User: "gatt"

Title: Re: Boy awakens after 22 months in coma 11 Oct 2006 03:08:44 PM
"Dana" <raff242@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Blood family decides,


You are incorrect entirely, both legally and scripturally, if it comes
to that.


Nope, blood family comes first.

Cite, please.

It's otherwise called Letting Nature Take Its Course.


It is still inhumane. We do not do that to convicted killers

And the right wing trashtalks liberal policy for it. Make up your mind.
-c
.

User: "JohnN"

Title: Re: Boy awakens after 22 months in coma 11 Oct 2006 02:33:01 PM
Dana wrote:

"Don Homuth" <dhomuth1@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:5seqi294b9a6a99i8i7clqp8mvc35f1b5v@4ax.com...

On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 10:38:37 -0800, "Dana" <raff242@yahoo.com> wrote:


"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
news:56idnfZsVIr_k7DYnZ2dnUVZ_uWdnZ2d@giganews.com...


Schiavo was NOT in a coma. She was brain dead. The autopsy was the last
nail in that coffin.


You still do not get it.
The argument was over who gets to decide, a lot of us were on the side

that

Blood family decides,


You are incorrect entirely, both legally and scripturally, if it comes
to that.


Nope, blood family comes first.


not some guy who may have been responsible for her
condition.


A base canard, for which neither you nor anyone else has any Actual
Evidence to provide.


Enough circumstantial

Prosecutors in Florida didn't think so.

The second issue was the method, we should not allow people to be starved

to

death,


It's otherwise called Letting Nature Take Its Course.


It is still inhumane. We do not do that to convicted killers

I agree. Euthanasia should be legal.


that is cruel and inhumane, even if the person is a vegatative state.


So, you're into Forced Feeding are you?


That is not inhumane

Letting the body waste away in Comaville is inhumane. And a poor
testiment to the person who was there.
JohnN
.
User: "Miriam Cohen"

Title: Re: Boy awakens after 22 months in coma 11 Oct 2006 05:16:05 PM
JohnN wrote:

Dana wrote:

"Don Homuth" <dhomuth1@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:5seqi294b9a6a99i8i7clqp8mvc35f1b5v@4ax.com...

On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 10:38:37 -0800, "Dana" <raff242@yahoo.com> wrote:


"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
news:56idnfZsVIr_k7DYnZ2dnUVZ_uWdnZ2d@giganews.com...


Schiavo was NOT in a coma. She was brain dead. The autopsy was the last
nail in that coffin.


You still do not get it.
The argument was over who gets to decide, a lot of us were on the side


that

Blood family decides,


You are incorrect entirely, both legally and scripturally, if it comes
to that.


Nope, blood family comes first.


not some guy who may have been responsible for her
condition.


A base canard, for which neither you nor anyone else has any Actual
Evidence to provide.


Enough circumstantial



Prosecutors in Florida didn't think so.


The second issue was the method, we should not allow people to be starved


to

death,


It's otherwise called Letting Nature Take Its Course.


It is still inhumane. We do not do that to convicted killers



I agree. Euthanasia should be legal.


that is cruel and inhumane, even if the person is a vegatative state.


So, you're into Forced Feeding are you?


That is not inhumane



Letting the body waste away in Comaville is inhumane. And a poor
testiment to the person who was there.

JohnN

I think the problem is that far too many people don't seem to understand
that having a liquid brain is not "being in a coma". It is being *DEAD*.
--
L'Chaim
Miriam
In the beginning
the Word already was.
.


User: "Bill Shatzer"

Title: Re: Boy awakens after 22 months in coma 11 Oct 2006 05:03:36 PM
Dana wrote:

Blood family decides,

You are incorrect entirely, both legally and scripturally, if it comes
to that.

Nope, blood family comes first.

"Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall
cleave unto his wife and they shall be one flesh…"
There's no need, I suppose, to quote what earthly law has to say on the
subject. 'Cause there, yer jest flat out wrong.
Peace and justice,
.






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