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04 Mar 2006 06:31:38 PM |
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Boy uses $1.5 million painting for gum parker |
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/11626023?GT1=7850
Boy uses $1.5 million painting for gum parker
Museum researching chemicals in wad to figure out how to clean canvas
Updated: 5:02 p.m. ET March 1, 2006
DETROIT - A 12-year-old visitor to the Detroit Institute of Arts stuck a
wad of gum to a $1.5 million painting, leaving a stain the size of a
quarter, officials say.
The boy was part of a school group from Holly, Mich., that visited the
museum on Friday, officials say. They say he took a piece of Wrigley’s
Extra Polar Ice gum out of his mouth and stuck it on Helen
Frankenthaler’s “The Bay,” an abstract painting from 1963.
The museum acquired the work in 1965 and says it is worth about $1.5
million.
The gum stuck to the painting’s lower left corner and did not adhere to
the fiber of the canvas, officials told the Detroit Free Press. But it
left a chemical residue about the size of a quarter, said Becky Hart,
assistant curator of contemporary art.
The museum’s conservation department is researching the chemicals in the
gum to decide which solvent to use to clean it. The museum hopes to make
the repair in two weeks and will keep “The Bay” on display in the
meantime, she said.
“Our expectation is that the painting is going to be fine,” Hart said.
Holly Academy director Julie Kildee said the boy had been suspended from
the charter school and says his parents also have disciplined him.
“Even though we give very strict guidelines on proper behavior and we
hold students to high standards, he is only 12 and I don’t think he
understood the ramifications of what he did before it happened, but he
certainly understands the severity of it now,” said Kildee.
© 2006 The Associated Press
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Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Boy uses $1.5 million painting for gum parker |
05 Mar 2006 05:11:05 AM |
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On Sat, 04 Mar 2006 16:31:38 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <f9ck025csf8fq3gj2mcq4fvpuqhgog0cc2@4ax.com>
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/11626023?GT1=7850
Boy uses $1.5 million painting for gum parker
Museum researching chemicals in wad to figure out how to clean canvas
Updated: 5:02 p.m. ET March 1, 2006
DETROIT - A 12-year-old visitor to the Detroit Institute of Arts stuck a
wad of gum to a $1.5 million painting, leaving a stain the size of a
quarter, officials say.
The boy was part of a school group from Holly, Mich., that visited the
museum on Friday, officials say. They say he took a piece of Wrigley’s
Extra Polar Ice gum out of his mouth and stuck it on Helen
Frankenthaler’s “The Bay,” an abstract painting from 1963.
The museum acquired the work in 1965 and says it is worth about $1.5
million.
The gum stuck to the painting’s lower left corner and did not adhere to
the fiber of the canvas, officials told the Detroit Free Press. But it
left a chemical residue about the size of a quarter, said Becky Hart,
assistant curator of contemporary art.
The museum’s conservation department is researching the chemicals in the
gum to decide which solvent to use to clean it. The museum hopes to make
the repair in two weeks and will keep “The Bay” on display in the
meantime, she said.
“Our expectation is that the painting is going to be fine,” Hart said.
Holly Academy director Julie Kildee said the boy had been suspended from
the charter school and says his parents also have disciplined him.
“Even though we give very strict guidelines on proper behavior and we
hold students to high standards, he is only 12 and I don’t think he
understood the ramifications of what he did before it happened, but he
certainly understands the severity of it now,” said Kildee.
© 2006 The Associated Press
If one reflects upon this incident for a moment, most paintings like
this are so overvalued that it is farcical.
I think the lad has done a minor service to the art mafia industry's
reform.
They complain bitterly about a bit of foloured rag getting a minor
blemish, whilst supporting a delusional Emporer who sends their kids
by the thousands to be slaughtered by monsters of his own making.
The priorities truly beggar logical understanding.
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| User: "kathryn" |
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05 Mar 2006 07:18:41 AM |
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"Michael Gray" <fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in message
news:qfhl021hrkv5kunprt9j7926ahfqgvv0l5@4ax.com...
On Sat, 04 Mar 2006 16:31:38 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <f9ck025csf8fq3gj2mcq4fvpuqhgog0cc2@4ax.com>
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/11626023?GT1=7850
Boy uses $1.5 million painting for gum parker
Museum researching chemicals in wad to figure out how to clean canvas
Updated: 5:02 p.m. ET March 1, 2006
DETROIT - A 12-year-old visitor to the Detroit Institute of Arts stuck a
wad of gum to a $1.5 million painting, leaving a stain the size of a
quarter, officials say.
The boy was part of a school group from Holly, Mich., that visited the
museum on Friday, officials say. They say he took a piece of Wrigley's
Extra Polar Ice gum out of his mouth and stuck it on Helen
Frankenthaler's "The Bay," an abstract painting from 1963.
The museum acquired the work in 1965 and says it is worth about $1.5
million.
The gum stuck to the painting's lower left corner and did not adhere to
the fiber of the canvas, officials told the Detroit Free Press. But it
left a chemical residue about the size of a quarter, said Becky Hart,
assistant curator of contemporary art.
The museum's conservation department is researching the chemicals in the
gum to decide which solvent to use to clean it. The museum hopes to make
the repair in two weeks and will keep "The Bay" on display in the
meantime, she said.
"Our expectation is that the painting is going to be fine," Hart said.
Holly Academy director Julie Kildee said the boy had been suspended from
the charter school and says his parents also have disciplined him.
"Even though we give very strict guidelines on proper behavior and we
hold students to high standards, he is only 12 and I don't think he
understood the ramifications of what he did before it happened, but he
certainly understands the severity of it now," said Kildee.
© 2006 The Associated Press
If one reflects upon this incident for a moment, most paintings like
this are so overvalued that it is farcical.
I think the lad has done a minor service to the art mafia industry's
reform.
They complain bitterly about a bit of foloured rag getting a minor
blemish, whilst supporting a delusional Emporer who sends their kids
by the thousands to be slaughtered by monsters of his own making.
The priorities truly beggar logical understanding.
Eh sorry, but the kid was a brat. You wouldn't be pissed if he came to your
house and stuck it on a picture you had hanging? Or a book?
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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06 Mar 2006 02:24:51 AM |
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On Sun, 5 Mar 2006 13:18:41 +0000 (UTC), "kathryn" <nospam@here.com>
wrote:
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"Michael Gray" <fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in message
news:qfhl021hrkv5kunprt9j7926ahfqgvv0l5@4ax.com...
On Sat, 04 Mar 2006 16:31:38 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <f9ck025csf8fq3gj2mcq4fvpuqhgog0cc2@4ax.com>
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/11626023?GT1=7850
Boy uses $1.5 million painting for gum parker
Museum researching chemicals in wad to figure out how to clean canvas
Updated: 5:02 p.m. ET March 1, 2006
DETROIT - A 12-year-old visitor to the Detroit Institute of Arts stuck a
wad of gum to a $1.5 million painting, leaving a stain the size of a
quarter, officials say.
The boy was part of a school group from Holly, Mich., that visited the
museum on Friday, officials say. They say he took a piece of Wrigley's
Extra Polar Ice gum out of his mouth and stuck it on Helen
Frankenthaler's "The Bay," an abstract painting from 1963.
The museum acquired the work in 1965 and says it is worth about $1.5
million.
The gum stuck to the painting's lower left corner and did not adhere to
the fiber of the canvas, officials told the Detroit Free Press. But it
left a chemical residue about the size of a quarter, said Becky Hart,
assistant curator of contemporary art.
The museum's conservation department is researching the chemicals in the
gum to decide which solvent to use to clean it. The museum hopes to make
the repair in two weeks and will keep "The Bay" on display in the
meantime, she said.
"Our expectation is that the painting is going to be fine," Hart said.
Holly Academy director Julie Kildee said the boy had been suspended from
the charter school and says his parents also have disciplined him.
"Even though we give very strict guidelines on proper behavior and we
hold students to high standards, he is only 12 and I don't think he
understood the ramifications of what he did before it happened, but he
certainly understands the severity of it now," said Kildee.
?2006 The Associated Press
If one reflects upon this incident for a moment, most paintings like
this are so overvalued that it is farcical.
I think the lad has done a minor service to the art mafia industry's
reform.
They complain bitterly about a bit of foloured rag getting a minor
blemish, whilst supporting a delusional Emporer who sends their kids
by the thousands to be slaughtered by monsters of his own making.
The priorities truly beggar logical understanding.
Eh sorry, but the kid was a brat. You wouldn't be pissed if he came to your
house and stuck it on a picture you had hanging? Or a book?
What has that got to do with grossly inflated art prices?
And since when did I own a public art gallery, predominantly funded by
external sources?
Your straw-man question also beggars logical understanding.
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Boy uses $1.5 million painting for gum parker |
07 Mar 2006 09:04:00 AM |
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On Sun, 05 Mar 2006 21:41:05 +1030, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in alt.atheism
On Sat, 04 Mar 2006 16:31:38 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <f9ck025csf8fq3gj2mcq4fvpuqhgog0cc2@4ax.com>
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/11626023?GT1=7850
Boy uses $1.5 million painting for gum parker
Museum researching chemicals in wad to figure out how to clean canvas
Updated: 5:02 p.m. ET March 1, 2006
DETROIT - A 12-year-old visitor to the Detroit Institute of Arts stuck a
wad of gum to a $1.5 million painting, leaving a stain the size of a
quarter, officials say.
The boy was part of a school group from Holly, Mich., that visited the
museum on Friday, officials say. They say he took a piece of Wrigley’s
Extra Polar Ice gum out of his mouth and stuck it on Helen
Frankenthaler’s “The Bay,” an abstract painting from 1963.
The museum acquired the work in 1965 and says it is worth about $1.5
million.
The gum stuck to the painting’s lower left corner and did not adhere to
the fiber of the canvas, officials told the Detroit Free Press. But it
left a chemical residue about the size of a quarter, said Becky Hart,
assistant curator of contemporary art.
The museum’s conservation department is researching the chemicals in the
gum to decide which solvent to use to clean it. The museum hopes to make
the repair in two weeks and will keep “The Bay” on display in the
meantime, she said.
“Our expectation is that the painting is going to be fine,” Hart said.
Holly Academy director Julie Kildee said the boy had been suspended from
the charter school and says his parents also have disciplined him.
“Even though we give very strict guidelines on proper behavior and we
hold students to high standards, he is only 12 and I don’t think he
understood the ramifications of what he did before it happened, but he
certainly understands the severity of it now,” said Kildee.
© 2006 The Associated Press
If one reflects upon this incident for a moment, most paintings like
this are so overvalued that it is farcical.
I think the lad has done a minor service to the art mafia industry's
reform.
They complain bitterly about a bit of foloured rag getting a minor
blemish, whilst supporting a delusional Emporer who sends their kids
by the thousands to be slaughtered by monsters of his own making.
The priorities truly beggar logical understanding.
Logic? Don't waste energy by searching for what isn't there.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
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| User: "Kate " |
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06 Mar 2006 09:41:02 AM |
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On Sun, 05 Mar 2006 21:41:05 +1030, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:
On Sat, 04 Mar 2006 16:31:38 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <f9ck025csf8fq3gj2mcq4fvpuqhgog0cc2@4ax.com>
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/11626023?GT1=7850
Boy uses $1.5 million painting for gum parker
Museum researching chemicals in wad to figure out how to clean canvas
Updated: 5:02 p.m. ET March 1, 2006
DETROIT - A 12-year-old visitor to the Detroit Institute of Arts stuck a
wad of gum to a $1.5 million painting, leaving a stain the size of a
quarter, officials say.
The boy was part of a school group from Holly, Mich., that visited the
museum on Friday, officials say. They say he took a piece of Wrigley’s
Extra Polar Ice gum out of his mouth and stuck it on Helen
Frankenthaler’s “The Bay,” an abstract painting from 1963.
The museum acquired the work in 1965 and says it is worth about $1.5
million.
The gum stuck to the painting’s lower left corner and did not adhere to
the fiber of the canvas, officials told the Detroit Free Press. But it
left a chemical residue about the size of a quarter, said Becky Hart,
assistant curator of contemporary art.
The museum’s conservation department is researching the chemicals in the
gum to decide which solvent to use to clean it. The museum hopes to make
the repair in two weeks and will keep “The Bay” on display in the
meantime, she said.
“Our expectation is that the painting is going to be fine,” Hart said.
Holly Academy director Julie Kildee said the boy had been suspended from
the charter school and says his parents also have disciplined him.
“Even though we give very strict guidelines on proper behavior and we
hold students to high standards, he is only 12 and I don’t think he
understood the ramifications of what he did before it happened, but he
certainly understands the severity of it now,” said Kildee.
© 2006 The Associated Press
If one reflects upon this incident for a moment, most paintings like
this are so overvalued that it is farcical.
I think the lad has done a minor service to the art mafia industry's
reform.
They complain bitterly about a bit of foloured rag getting a minor
blemish, whilst supporting a delusional Emporer who sends their kids
by the thousands to be slaughtered by monsters of his own making.
The priorities truly beggar logical understanding.
All monetary value is subjective. That you don't agree with art
prices is unimportant to the price. Apparently more than one rich
person is willing to pay that price and that's all it takes. Stock
prices are completely built on that concept. All it takes is a good
fright and they all come tumbling down.
Museums rarely pay that much for paintings. Usually they are donated.
So it's not like your tax dollars are going towards it.
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| User: "Rune B" |
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06 Mar 2006 10:34:34 AM |
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On 6 Mar 2006 09:41:02 -0600, (Kate ) wrote:
All monetary value is subjective. That you don't agree with art
prices is unimportant to the price. Apparently more than one rich
Yeah, it's worth whatever people are willing to pay for it... and
people who have that much money and spend it on art should have their
assets frozen :-)
--
WWJD! What Would Jack (Bauer) Do?
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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06 Mar 2006 03:20:14 PM |
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On Mon, 06 Mar 2006 17:34:34 +0100, Rune B <nobody@nowhere.net> wrote:
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On 6 Mar 2006 09:41:02 -0600, (Kate ) wrote:
All monetary value is subjective. That you don't agree with art
prices is unimportant to the price. Apparently more than one rich
Yeah, it's worth whatever people are willing to pay for it... and
people who have that much money and spend it on art should have their
assets frozen :-)
And the gum frozen too.
It comes off easier.
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| User: "Rune B" |
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04 Mar 2006 11:16:03 PM |
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On Sat, 04 Mar 2006 16:31:38 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
DETROIT - A 12-year-old visitor to the Detroit Institute of Arts stuck a
wad of gum to a $1.5 million painting, leaving a stain the size of a
quarter, officials say.
Here's an idea... put something over the painting? Like gee, I don't
know, some kind of filmed (to avoid reflection) unbreakable glass,
like other museums use?
--
WWJD! What Would Jack (Bauer) Do?
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| User: "David Canzi -- non-mailable" |
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05 Mar 2006 01:38:46 PM |
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In article <gusk021qq2085oo6mip1ooa7i6uftngec9@4ax.com>,
Rune B <nobody@nowhere.net> wrote:
On Sat, 04 Mar 2006 16:31:38 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
DETROIT - A 12-year-old visitor to the Detroit Institute of Arts stuck a
wad of gum to a $1.5 million painting, leaving a stain the size of a
quarter, officials say.
Here's an idea... put something over the painting? Like gee, I don't
know, some kind of filmed (to avoid reflection) unbreakable glass,
like other museums use?
They exposed that painting to Detroit air for 4 decades. I lived
across the river (and downwind) from Detroit as a kid, and all
the blue litmus paper in my chemistry set turned red from being
exposed to that air...
--
David Canzi "Imminent death of dominant paradigm predicted -- film at 11."
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| User: "stoney" |
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07 Mar 2006 09:02:43 AM |
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On Sun, 5 Mar 2006 19:38:46 +0000 (UTC),
dmcanzi@remulak.ads.uwaterloo.ca (David Canzi -- non-mailable) wrote in
alt.atheism
In article <gusk021qq2085oo6mip1ooa7i6uftngec9@4ax.com>,
Rune B <nobody@nowhere.net> wrote:
On Sat, 04 Mar 2006 16:31:38 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
DETROIT - A 12-year-old visitor to the Detroit Institute of Arts stuck a
wad of gum to a $1.5 million painting, leaving a stain the size of a
quarter, officials say.
Here's an idea... put something over the painting? Like gee, I don't
know, some kind of filmed (to avoid reflection) unbreakable glass,
like other museums use?
They exposed that painting to Detroit air for 4 decades. I lived
across the river (and downwind) from Detroit as a kid, and all
the blue litmus paper in my chemistry set turned red from being
exposed to that air...
The high amounts of lead in the soil.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
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| User: "David Canzi -- non-mailable" |
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08 Mar 2006 11:54:21 AM |
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In article <248r029bknole4kc7ocdh3j2k3u2p88o7v@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sun, 5 Mar 2006 19:38:46 +0000 (UTC),
dmcanzi@remulak.ads.uwaterloo.ca (David Canzi -- non-mailable) wrote in
alt.atheism
They exposed that painting to Detroit air for 4 decades. I lived
across the river (and downwind) from Detroit as a kid, and all
the blue litmus paper in my chemistry set turned red from being
exposed to that air...
The high amounts of lead in the soil.
I don't get it. Are you saying that lead in wind-blown soil
turns blue litmus paper red? Or damages paintings? Or preserves
paintings against damage by other contaminants in the air?
Or accounts for the bizarre nature of some of my USENET postings?
--
David Canzi "Imminent death of dominant paradigm predicted -- film at 11."
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Boy uses $1.5 million painting for gum parker |
09 Mar 2006 01:57:07 PM |
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On Wed, 8 Mar 2006 17:54:21 +0000 (UTC),
dmcanzi@remulak.ads.uwaterloo.ca (David Canzi -- non-mailable) wrote in
alt.atheism
In article <248r029bknole4kc7ocdh3j2k3u2p88o7v@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sun, 5 Mar 2006 19:38:46 +0000 (UTC),
dmcanzi@remulak.ads.uwaterloo.ca (David Canzi -- non-mailable) wrote in
alt.atheism
They exposed that painting to Detroit air for 4 decades. I lived
across the river (and downwind) from Detroit as a kid, and all
the blue litmus paper in my chemistry set turned red from being
exposed to that air...
The high amounts of lead in the soil.
I don't get it. Are you saying that lead in wind-blown soil
turns blue litmus paper red? Or damages paintings? Or preserves
paintings against damage by other contaminants in the air?
Or accounts for the bizarre nature of some of my USENET postings?
Or all of the above. I'm serious about the high amounts of lead in the
soil.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
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| User: "Ben Kaufman" |
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05 Mar 2006 07:10:13 AM |
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On Sat, 04 Mar 2006 16:31:38 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/11626023?GT1=7850
<SNIP>
“Even though we give very strict guidelines on proper behavior and we
hold students to high standards, he is only 12 and I don’t think he
understood the ramifications of what he did before it happened, but he
certainly understands the severity of it now,” said Kildee.
<SNIP>
Only 12?!? Lol, I didn't know they still raised children in barns.
Ben
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