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11 Sep 2007 11:52:57 AM |
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Brainwave clue to political persuasion |
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.jhtml?xml=/earth/2007/09/10/scifestival2.xml
Brainwave clue to political persuasion
By Roger Highfield, Science Editor
Scientists have discovered a way to identify the politics of the human
brain by using a scan that can identify liberal or conservative
tendencies.
Researchers report today that by electrical activity in the brain can
identify just how committed to Right or Left-wing causes a person is
likely to be.
The team has linked political persuasion to a general mechanism for
how the brain deals with new information.
The study, in the journal Nature Neuroscience, found that those of a
conservative disposition can be distinguished by a type of brain
activity involved in regulating conflict between a habit and novelty.
Previous psychological work has suggests that, on average,
conservatives tend to be more persistent in their judgements and
decision-making, while liberals are more likely to be open to trying
something new.
David Amodio, of New York University, and colleagues from the
University of California, Los Angeles, recorded electrical activity
from the brain using electroencephalograms in 43 people who rated
themselves as either conservative or liberal.
He said: "In our study, liberals tended to be more sensitive and
responsive to information that might conflict with their habitual way
of thinking, compared with the conservatives."
In contrast, responses of conservatives were more consistent with the
"stay the course" approach.
The findings support previous suggestions that political orientation
may in part reflect differences in brain processing. However, Dr
Amodio said it was not easy to say whether these differences in neural
patterns have their origins in nature or nurture.
He said: "Our data, which relate political orientation to the
functioning of a very fundamental neurocognitive mechanism, may
suggest that liberalism/conservatism reflects our basic biological
composition, which would be largely genetically driven.
''But on the other hand, the functioning of this neurocognitive system
is malleable, and it's possible that people who grew up in a liberal
environment also received more 'training' in responding to
informational conflict and in being adaptive in their thought and
behaviour."
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| User: "Sanitys Little Helper" |
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12 Sep 2007 10:31:11 AM |
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J Young <younginsights@aol.com> wrote in
news:1189529577.114675.105820@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com to
alt.atheism:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.jhtml?xml=/earth/2007/09/10/scife
stival2.xml
Brainwave clue to political persuasion
By Roger Highfield, Science Editor
Scientists have discovered a way to identify the politics of the human
brain by using a scan that can identify liberal or conservative
tendencies.
To cut a long story short: left wing people think more often and more
honestly than right wing people. The Daily Torygraph wouldn't put it
quite like that of course.
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David Silverman C.B.E.
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Lord Mayor of Awphucket
Not authentic without this signature.
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| User: "Darrell Stec" |
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| Title: Re: Brainwave clue to political persuasion |
12 Sep 2007 04:39:54 PM |
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J Young wrote:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.jhtml?xml=/earth/2007/09/10/scifestival2.xml
Brainwave clue to political persuasion
By Roger Highfield, Science Editor
Scientists have discovered a way to identify the politics of the human
brain by using a scan that can identify liberal or conservative
tendencies.
WOW, you managed to find someone who interpreted a study that put a positive
spin on Republicans, when in fact the study and independent review of it,
demonstrated an inflexibility on the part of Republicans even when shown
that they were wrong. They kept choosing the wrong answer. Democrats on
the other hand, used more areas of the brain and adapted their decision on
the correction.
Why didn't you provide the link to the actual study? Are you afraid we
might noticed how biased your source was, and wrong?
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Later,
Darrell Stec
Webpage Sorcery
http://webpagesorcery.com
We Put the Magic in Your Webpages
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| User: "Bill Allen" |
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| Title: Re: Brainwave clue to political persuasion |
11 Sep 2007 12:57:52 PM |
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J Young wrote:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.jhtml?xml=/earth/2007/09/10/scifestival2.xml
Brainwave clue to political persuasion
By Roger Highfield, Science Editor
Scientists have discovered a way to identify the politics of the human
brain by using a scan that can identify liberal or conservative
tendencies.
Researchers report today that by electrical activity in the brain can
identify just how committed to Right or Left-wing causes a person is
likely to be.
The team has linked political persuasion to a general mechanism for
how the brain deals with new information.
The study, in the journal Nature Neuroscience, found that those of a
conservative disposition can be distinguished by a type of brain
activity involved in regulating conflict between a habit and novelty.
Previous psychological work has suggests that, on average,
conservatives tend to be more persistent in their judgements and
decision-making, while liberals are more likely to be open to trying
something new.
David Amodio, of New York University, and colleagues from the
University of California, Los Angeles, recorded electrical activity
from the brain using electroencephalograms in 43 people who rated
themselves as either conservative or liberal.
He said: "In our study, liberals tended to be more sensitive and
responsive to information that might conflict with their habitual way
of thinking, compared with the conservatives."
In contrast, responses of conservatives were more consistent with the
"stay the course" approach.
The findings support previous suggestions that political orientation
may in part reflect differences in brain processing. However, Dr
Amodio said it was not easy to say whether these differences in neural
patterns have their origins in nature or nurture.
He said: "Our data, which relate political orientation to the
functioning of a very fundamental neurocognitive mechanism, may
suggest that liberalism/conservatism reflects our basic biological
composition, which would be largely genetically driven.
''But on the other hand, the functioning of this neurocognitive system
is malleable, and it's possible that people who grew up in a liberal
environment also received more 'training' in responding to
informational conflict and in being adaptive in their thought and
behaviour."
I wonder what the scans revealed about plagiarizing god botherers' like
Young?
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| User: "jemcd 1" |
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| Title: Re: Brainwave clue to political persuasion |
11 Sep 2007 04:15:34 PM |
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On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 12:57:52 -0500, Bill Allen <BA@nospam.org> wrote:
I wonder what the scans revealed about plagiarizing god botherers' like
Young?
Hey, good question!
I had a silly thought about that, let's say there is something to
scanning/examing the brain and figuring out if there are differences
that are related to religious thinking.
A fundy brain might have a difference in one of two ways, one is that
a certain part of their brain is completely dormant. That would be the
part that many atheists have obviously used, the hmmmmm something
fishy with that supernatural storyline, I'm going to think this
through and get some good information.....screw that believing for no
reason thing.
The second way might be a hyperactive region that is more active in
fundies than "normal" people, and it is a complex mutlitasking
controller that can protect opposing beliefs from ever causing a
problem, the virtual partition thing. And each separate partition
operates with complete ignorance of the other partition. The tricky
part is to isolate the partitions that want to recognize reality, a
real filtering masterpiece of work.
If the second is true, then it's obviously brilliant biological
evolution engineering and if Bill Gates got his hands on the design
maybe windoze would frickin work right.
The ultimate achievement would be to find the cntrl-alt-del function
on a fundy, and blow out the partition manager.
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| User: "Smiler" |
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| Title: Re: Brainwave clue to political persuasion |
11 Sep 2007 07:50:42 PM |
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"jemcd" <1> wrote in message
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On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 12:57:52 -0500, Bill Allen <BA@nospam.org> wrote:
I wonder what the scans revealed about plagiarizing god botherers' like
Young?
Hey, good question!
I had a silly thought about that, let's say there is something to
scanning/examing the brain and figuring out if there are differences
that are related to religious thinking.
A fundy brain might have a difference in one of two ways, one is that
a certain part of their brain is completely dormant. That would be the
part that many atheists have obviously used, the hmmmmm something
fishy with that supernatural storyline, I'm going to think this
through and get some good information.....screw that believing for no
reason thing.
The second way might be a hyperactive region that is more active in
fundies than "normal" people, and it is a complex mutlitasking
controller that can protect opposing beliefs from ever causing a
problem, the virtual partition thing. And each separate partition
operates with complete ignorance of the other partition. The tricky
part is to isolate the partitions that want to recognize reality, a
real filtering masterpiece of work.
If the second is true, then it's obviously brilliant biological
evolution engineering and if Bill Gates got his hands on the design
maybe windoze would frickin work right.
The ultimate achievement would be to find the cntrl-alt-del function
on a fundy, and blow out the partition manager.
The partitions would still be there.
You'd need to drop back into DOS, FDisk, Format the drive and then reload
all the software, except Fundie v24.7.365 and Christer (v5.78 for
Protestants or v1.294 for Catlicks), from scratch. Be sure to install an
antivirus program (Meme-Remover is a good one) and a firewall ( *****
Detector is standard issue) before allowing out into the real world.
Smiler,
The godless one
a.a.# 2279
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Brainwave clue to political persuasion |
12 Sep 2007 01:43:33 PM |
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On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 00:50:42 GMT, "Smiler" <Smiler@Joe.King.com>
wrote:
The partitions would still be there.
You'd need to drop back into DOS, FDisk, Format the drive and then reload
all the software, except Fundie v24.7.365 and Christer (v5.78 for
Protestants or v1.294 for Catlicks), from scratch. Be sure to install an
antivirus program (Meme-Remover is a good one) and a firewall ( *****
Detector is standard issue) before allowing out into the real world.
Or just install Bullet v9.00 across all partitions, and get new
hardware.
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rukbat at optonline dot net
Is he willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is impotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Whence then comes evil?
-Epicurus, 3rd c. BCE
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Brainwave clue to political persuasion |
11 Sep 2007 03:50:26 PM |
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On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 12:57:52 -0500, Bill Allen <BA@nospam.org> wrote:
I wonder what the scans revealed about plagiarizing god botherers' like
Young?
Lack of organ in which to find activity.
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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| Title: Re: Brainwave clue to political persuasion |
11 Sep 2007 08:14:37 PM |
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On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 09:52:57 -0700 J Young <younginsights@aol.com>
carved the following into the hard stone of alt.atheism
Scientists have discovered a way to identify the politics of the human
brain by using a scan that can identify liberal or conservative
tendencies.
Amusing. You just posted a good argument against the existence of a
soul. If our general political inclinations are hardwired into our
brains, where does the "soul" come into play?
Since damage to the frontal lobes can cause drastic and permnant
changes in personality and even self-identity, doesn't that aregue
that the essential "personhood" is resident in the billions of neural
connections inside our skulls?
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2011
"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the
source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a
stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as
good as dead: his eyes are closed." - Albert Einstein
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Brainwave clue to political persuasion |
11 Sep 2007 06:51:35 PM |
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On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 09:52:57 -0700, J Young wrote:
Brainwave clue to political persuasion
Then you must have no political persuasion at all...
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Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"Behold the foul stench of Skeletor's breakfast burrito!"
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