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"Gary DeWaay" |
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23 Mar 2005 03:49:47 AM |
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Breaking news... |
www.CNNN.com/schiavo/03/22/commandos/index.htm
Atlanta Georgia (CNNN)
A right wing commando team hired by a radical pro-life organization ALAS
(All Lives Are Sacred) parachuted to the roof of Terri Schiavo's hospice,
storming the building killing three security guards, four nurses and a
seven year old child bringing balloons to his dying grandma. They then
forced their way into Schiavo's room and immediately shoved a turkey
sandwich down her throat, choking her to death because she had no
swallowing instincts. Apparently one of the shocked commando's, dressed
in combat fatigues and numerous crucifix's, was heard saying as he was
being led away in handcuffs, "I didn't even get a chance to give her my
canteen of milk to wash it down with... what happened?"
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Gary
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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23 Mar 2005 05:57:00 AM |
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Gary DeWaay wrote:
www.CNNN.com/schiavo/03/22/commandos/index.htm
Atlanta Georgia (CNNN)
A right wing commando team hired by a radical pro-life organization
ALAS (All Lives Are Sacred) parachuted to the roof of Terri Schiavo's
hospice, storming the building killing three security guards, four
nurses and a seven year old child bringing balloons to his dying
grandma. They then forced their way into Schiavo's room and
immediately shoved a turkey sandwich down her throat, choking her to
death because she had no swallowing instincts. Apparently one of the
shocked commando's, dressed in combat fatigues and numerous
crucifix's, was heard saying as he was being led away in handcuffs,
"I didn't even get a chance to give her my canteen of milk to wash it
down with... what happened?"
As usual CNNN can't get at the facts and try to fill in with falsehood.
The correct story:
"A right wing commando team hired by a radical pro-life organization
ALAS (All Lives Are Sacred) TRIED TO parachute to the roof of Terri
Schiavo's
hospice.
A spokesman for the police department surmised that none of them could
figure out how to pull the ripcord. All died, but none penetrated the roof.
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| User: "someone" |
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24 Mar 2005 11:24:07 PM |
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As usual CNNN can't get at the facts and try to fill in with
falsehood.
The correct story:
"A right wing commando team hired by a radical pro-life organization
ALAS (All Lives Are Sacred) TRIED TO parachute to the roof of Terri
Schiavo's
hospice.
A spokesman for the police department surmised that none of them could
figure out how to pull the ripcord. All died, but none penetrated the
roof.
Amazingly funny! Not. Someone is being starved to death. Oh America,
land of the free. It seems to me, that while some of the people in this
group are intelligent, and hold the position that they do from an
intellectual standpoint, others seem like satanists, hiding under the
masquerade of atheism (obviously this wouldn't offend any true
atheist).
Humanitarians are atheist. Hopefully most atheists are ethical, but
just don't like religious dogma, or being told what to believe.
As atheists, what is ethical about watching (I'm sure it gets ratings)
someone get starved to death.
I along with the rest of the world, am wondering why she is not just
injected and killed, rather than letting her starve to death.
Why does it seem that this group favours watching someone being starved
to death, when obviously they are not in a coma (even then inject,
between a choice of the two), or anything like that?
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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25 Mar 2005 12:50:33 AM |
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"someone" <glenn.spigel@btinternet.com> wrote in
news:1111706647.211379.134530@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
As usual CNNN can't get at the facts and try to fill in with
falsehood.
The correct story:
"A right wing commando team hired by a radical pro-life organization
ALAS (All Lives Are Sacred) TRIED TO parachute to the roof of Terri
Schiavo's hospice.
A spokesman for the police department surmised that none of them could
figure out how to pull the ripcord. All died, but none penetrated the
roof.
Amazingly funny! Not. Someone is being starved to death.
She's already dead in any meaningful sense. Has been for fifteen years.
Her mind is *gone*.
Oh America,
land of the free. It seems to me, that while some of the people in
this group are intelligent, and hold the position that they do from an
intellectual standpoint, others seem like satanists, hiding under the
masquerade of atheism (obviously this wouldn't offend any true
atheist).
Humanitarians are atheist. Hopefully most atheists are ethical, but
just don't like religious dogma, or being told what to believe.
As atheists, what is ethical about watching (I'm sure it gets ratings)
someone get starved to death.
What is ethical about keeping someone "alive" in a vegetative state when
there is no hope that they will recover? Where do you draw the line?
Should we keep the body alive when the mind is obviously gone?
I along with the rest of the world, am wondering why she is not just
injected and killed, rather than letting her starve to death.
Because we have laws against that sort of thing. Removing her feeding
tube is allowed under the law, but actively killing her would be murder.
She's not suffering, she's already dead in any meaningful sense of the
word.
Why does it seem that this group favours watching someone being
starved to death, when obviously they are not in a coma (even then
inject, between a choice of the two), or anything like that?
I doubt that many of us would want to watch. It's a private matter that
has unfortunately been snatched by religious "conservatives" as a
political issue. I think the religious "conservatives" have gone off the
deep end on this one. The amount of misinformation and outright
falsehoods being tossed around by the "religious right" is an outrage.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"You know you're over the target when you start receiving flak."
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| User: "someone" |
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| Title: Re: Breaking news... |
28 Mar 2005 10:21:47 PM |
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What is ethical about keeping someone "alive" in a vegetative state
when
there is no hope that they will recover? Where do you draw the line?
Should we keep the body alive when the mind is obviously gone?
Well, it won't bother her, as she won't even know according to you, and
if her family want it then why not? If someone killed my daughter, for
the sake of a hospital bed and food costs, I can't see any other
reason, then I'd, well actually I don't want to go into what I'd do.
Point being if she can't feel anything, then why does it bother the
husband if she is kept alive? Her family sound more than willing to
take care of her.
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| User: "Nivlem" |
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28 Mar 2005 10:46:43 PM |
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On 28 Mar 2005 14:21:47 -0800, "someone"
<glenn.spigel@btinternet.com> wrote:
What is ethical about keeping someone "alive" in a vegetative state
when
there is no hope that they will recover? Where do you draw the line?
Should we keep the body alive when the mind is obviously gone?
Well, it won't bother her, as she won't even know according to you, and
if her family want it then why not? If someone killed my daughter, for
the sake of a hospital bed and food costs, I can't see any other
reason, then I'd, well actually I don't want to go into what I'd do.
Point being if she can't feel anything, then why does it bother the
husband if she is kept alive? Her family sound more than willing to
take care of her.
Why do you think that the delusions of her parents should
be supported with $80,000 a year of Medicaid money? That's
not how I want my tax dollars spent. What's next? Providing
federally funded followers for annoying street winos who
think they're Jesus Christ?
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| User: "someone" |
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29 Mar 2005 10:19:12 AM |
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Why do you think that the delusions of her parents should
be supported with $80,000 a year of Medicaid money? That's
not how I want my tax dollars spent. What's next? Providing
federally funded followers for annoying street winos who
think they're Jesus Christ?
So it's about the money.
If the parents could pay, then she wouldn't be starved to death?
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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| Title: Re: Breaking news... |
28 Mar 2005 10:59:43 PM |
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someone wrote:
What is ethical about keeping someone "alive" in a vegetative state
when there is no hope that they will recover? Where do you draw the
line? Should we keep the body alive when the mind is obviously gone?
Well, it won't bother her, as she won't even know according to you,
and if her family want it then why not? If someone killed my
daughter, for the sake of a hospital bed and food costs, I can't see
any other reason, then I'd, well actually I don't want to go into
what I'd do. Point being if she can't feel anything, then why does it
bother the husband if she is kept alive? Her family sound more than
willing to take care of her.
Really?
How much money have the parents spent in caring for her or in the legal
battle to keep the body breathing?
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| User: "someone" |
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29 Mar 2005 10:22:24 AM |
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Well, it won't bother her, as she won't even know according to you,
and if her family want it then why not? If someone killed my
daughter, for the sake of a hospital bed and food costs, I can't see
any other reason, then I'd, well actually I don't want to go into
what I'd do. Point being if she can't feel anything, then why does
it
bother the husband if she is kept alive? Her family sound more than
willing to take care of her.
Really?
How much money have the parents spent in caring for her or in the
legal
battle to keep the body breathing?
So its about money.
If they had then money, and were willing to pay, then she shouldn't be
starved to death right?
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| User: "Therion Ware" |
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29 Mar 2005 10:47:24 AM |
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On 29 Mar 2005 02:22:24 -0800 in alt.atheism, someone ("someone"
<glenn.spigel@btinternet.com>) said, directing the reply to
alt.atheism
Well, it won't bother her, as she won't even know according to you,
and if her family want it then why not? If someone killed my
daughter, for the sake of a hospital bed and food costs, I can't see
any other reason, then I'd, well actually I don't want to go into
what I'd do. Point being if she can't feel anything, then why does it
bother the husband if she is kept alive? Her family sound more than
willing to take care of her.
Really?
How much money have the parents spent in caring for her or in the legal
battle to keep the body breathing?
So its about money.
If they had then money, and were willing to pay, then she shouldn't be
starved to death right?
Suppose they're willing, but not able: suppose they simply can't
afford the medical costs.
Would you be willing to pay a bit more in tax so that the costs could
be covered?
Or do you support the Texas "Futile Care Law" where money determines
who lives and who dies?
Or do you have a solution that steps out of the box?
--
"Do Unto Others As You Would Have Them Do Unto You."
- Attrib: Pauline Reage.
Inexpensive VHS & other video to CD/DVD conversion?
See: www.Video2CD.com. 35.00 gets your video on DVD.
Market Your DVD to The World For Almost Nothing: www.instantdvd.tv
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| User: "someone" |
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29 Mar 2005 04:58:11 PM |
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Well, it won't bother her, as she won't even know according to
you,
and if her family want it then why not? If someone killed my
daughter, for the sake of a hospital bed and food costs, I can't
see
any other reason, then I'd, well actually I don't want to go into
what I'd do. Point being if she can't feel anything, then why does
it
bother the husband if she is kept alive? Her family sound more
than
willing to take care of her.
Really?
How much money have the parents spent in caring for her or in the
legal
battle to keep the body breathing?
So its about money.
If they had then money, and were willing to pay, then she shouldn't
be
starved to death right?
Suppose they're willing, but not able: suppose they simply can't
afford the medical costs.
Would you be willing to pay a bit more in tax so that the costs could
be covered?
Or do you support the Texas "Futile Care Law" where money determines
who lives and who dies?
Or do you have a solution that steps out of the box?
I'm assuming that although you are replying to my post, you are just
adding to the questions that Mike Painter will no doubt shortly be
answering.
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| User: "stoney" |
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27 Mar 2005 12:29:26 AM |
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On 24 Mar 2005 15:24:07 -0800, "someone" <glenn.spigel@btinternet.com>
wrote:
As usual CNNN can't get at the facts and try to fill in with
falsehood.
The correct story:
"A right wing commando team hired by a radical pro-life organization
ALAS (All Lives Are Sacred) TRIED TO parachute to the roof of Terri
Schiavo's
hospice.
A spokesman for the police department surmised that none of them could
figure out how to pull the ripcord. All died, but none penetrated the
roof.
Amazingly funny! Not. Someone is being starved to death.
It's called 'black humour,' Glenn and it has nothing to do with skin
colour.
Oh America, land of the free.
That's false advertising.
It seems to me, that while some of the people in this
group are intelligent, and hold the position that they do from an
intellectual standpoint, others seem like satanists, hiding under the
masquerade of atheism (obviously this wouldn't offend any true
atheist).
No such thing as a 'true' christian or atheist.
Humanitarians are atheist. Hopefully most atheists are ethical, but
just don't like religious dogma, or being told what to believe.
As atheists, what is ethical about watching (I'm sure it gets ratings)
someone get starved to death.
That's due to Christians.
I along with the rest of the world, am wondering why she is not just
injected and killed, rather than letting her starve to death.
Against the law, due to Christians.
Why does it seem that this group favours watching someone being starved
to death, when obviously they are not in a coma (even then inject,
between a choice of the two), or anything like that?
Once again, talk to the Christians running the country.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "Vic Sagerquist" |
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23 Mar 2005 05:29:55 AM |
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On 22 Mar 2005, Gary DeWaay dropped trou, farted, whirled, then shouted:
www.CNNN.com/schiavo/03/22/commandos/index.htm
Atlanta Georgia (CNNN)
A right wing commando team hired by a radical pro-life organization
ALAS
(All Lives Are Sacred) parachuted to the roof of Terri Schiavo's
hospice, storming the building killing three security guards, four
nurses and a seven year old child bringing balloons to his dying
grandma. They then forced their way into Schiavo's room and
immediately shoved a turkey sandwich down her throat, choking her to
death because she had no swallowing instincts. Apparently one of the
shocked commando's, dressed in combat fatigues and numerous
crucifix's, was heard saying as he was being led away in handcuffs,
"I didn't even get a chance to give her my canteen of milk to wash it
down with... what happened?"
CNNN?
--
Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
Plonked by Jason Gastrich for all eternity...
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As you were, I was. As I am, you will be.
--- Hunter S. Thompson
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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23 Mar 2005 04:23:59 PM |
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On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:49:47 -0600, Gary DeWaay
<dewaay2spikeNOT@sio.midco.net> drained his beer, leaned back in the
alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly proclaimed the following
www.CNNN.com/schiavo/03/22/commandos/index.htm
Atlanta Georgia (CNNN)
A right wing commando team hired by a radical pro-life organization ALAS
(All Lives Are Sacred) parachuted to the roof of Terri Schiavo's hospice,
storming the building killing three security guards, four nurses and a
seven year old child bringing balloons to his dying grandma. They then
forced their way into Schiavo's room and immediately shoved a turkey
sandwich down her throat, choking her to death because she had no
swallowing instincts. Apparently one of the shocked commando's, dressed
in combat fatigues and numerous crucifix's, was heard saying as he was
being led away in handcuffs, "I didn't even get a chance to give her my
canteen of milk to wash it down with... what happened?"
LOL!
Actually, one protestor was arrested for tresspassing.. was trying to
bring Terri a cup of water.
Which would have drowned her, since she can't swallow.
--
Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
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| User: "Gary DeWaay" |
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23 Mar 2005 10:47:08 PM |
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Douglas Berry's at wisdom:
LOL!
Actually, one protestor was arrested for tresspassing.. was trying to
bring Terri a cup of water.
Which would have drowned her, since she can't swallow.
I thought it was bread and water, which is even worse. The best part is
America is FINALLY seeing what a bunch of KOOKS these RR idiots are:
http://www.pollingreport.com/news.htm
--
Gary
"Pay no attention to the naked gay conservative male prostitute sitting in
the middle of the family values white house living room."
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| User: "Vic Sagerquist" |
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23 Mar 2005 08:05:42 PM |
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on 23 Mar 2005 in alt.atheism, Douglas Berry dropped trou, farted,
whirled, then shouted:
On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:49:47 -0600, Gary DeWaay
<dewaay2spikeNOT@sio.midco.net> drained his beer, leaned back in the
alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly proclaimed the following
www.CNNN.com/schiavo/03/22/commandos/index.htm
Atlanta Georgia (CNNN)
A right wing commando team hired by a radical pro-life organization
ALAS
(All Lives Are Sacred) parachuted to the roof of Terri Schiavo's
hospice, storming the building killing three security guards, four
nurses and a seven year old child bringing balloons to his dying
grandma. They then forced their way into Schiavo's room and
immediately shoved a turkey sandwich down her throat, choking her to
death because she had no swallowing instincts. Apparently one of the
shocked commando's, dressed in combat fatigues and numerous
crucifix's, was heard saying as he was being led away in handcuffs,
"I didn't even get a chance to give her my canteen of milk to wash it
down with... what happened?"
LOL!
Actually, one protestor was arrested for tresspassing.. was trying to
bring Terri a cup of water.
Which would have drowned her, since she can't swallow.
Amazing. She even needs to be protected from her "supporters".
--
Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
Plonked by Jason Gastrich for all eternity...
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As you were, I was. As I am, you will be.
--- Hunter S. Thompson
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| User: "stoney" |
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24 Mar 2005 10:56:31 PM |
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On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:49:47 -0600, Gary DeWaay
<dewaay2spikeNOT@sio.midco.net> wrote:
www.CNNN.com/schiavo/03/22/commandos/index.htm
Atlanta Georgia (CNNN)
A right wing commando team hired by a radical pro-life organization ALAS
(All Lives Are Sacred) parachuted to the roof of Terri Schiavo's hospice,
storming the building killing three security guards, four nurses and a
seven year old child bringing balloons to his dying grandma. They then
forced their way into Schiavo's room and immediately shoved a turkey
sandwich down her throat, choking her to death because she had no
swallowing instincts. Apparently one of the shocked commando's, dressed
in combat fatigues and numerous crucifix's, was heard saying as he was
being led away in handcuffs, "I didn't even get a chance to give her my
canteen of milk to wash it down with... what happened?"
LOL! That's the 'mindset' of the stupid bastards. :\
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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