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18 May 2005 04:41:42 PM |
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Breaking The Chains Of Atheism. |
Ask, and you will receive. -- John 16:24.
If there is one promise of God that is guaranteed to draw a skeptical
reaction, it's this one. After all, what are we to make of the times
that we have asked, and not received? A loved one that we had been
praying for dies. A family member with an addiction never breaks free.
A broken relationship remains unhealed. If this promise of Jesus is
true, why are our prayers not being answered?
The truth is, we don't know. Part of the mystery of God's promises is
that every one of them is completely true, even if we sometimes can't
explain how. In the case of seemingly unanswered prayers, we need to
trust in faith that our Father in heaven knows what he is doing, and
that he loves and cares for us as well as for the person we are praying
for. Rather than in giving up in anger and despair, we can summon our
faith and proclaim: "Lord, I have no idea what you are doing, but I
trust that you are directing all things in this situation for your
good."
The parable of the persistent widow (Luke 18:1-8) can offer us hope in
these times. This widow just kept going back to the judge over and
over, until finally she wore him down. Open a thesaurus and look up
"persistent," and you'll find some interesting synonyms: demanding,
relentless, constant, even pushy. These are the qualities that Jesus
commended in the widow -- qualities that he is asking us to adopt when
it comes to praying for others.
Let's take Jesus at his word today. Do you have a prayer that doesn't
seem to be getting answered? Keep on storming heaven with relentless,
demanding, constant, pushy prayers. Don't worry about offending God.
He knows what's in your heart, and he never turns away anyone who comes
to him in humility. So never stop asking your Father in heaven to
grant your requests. Keep praying, keep trusting, and whatever
happens, do not doubt God's promises for one second -- even when all
hope seems lost.
"Lord Jesus, I believe that you are utterly true to every promise
you've ever made. Even though my human mind cannot always see it, I
trust that you are working for good in every situation. I trust that
those I am praying for will receive your goodness and mercy."
Acts 18: 23-28
Psalm 47: 2-3, 8-10
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| User: "bob young" |
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20 May 2005 12:55:01 AM |
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wrote:
thomas p wrote:
The truth is that prayers are not answered. There is no mystery
about
it beyond why anybody would be silly enough to argue that they are
answered in the face of reality by calling it a mystery.
<chuckle>
I'm glad I'm not an atheist; I could never live in so narrow a space,
certain of things of which I know nothing, and ignorant of things that
every schoolboy knows.
It was the schoolboy who said: "Faith is believing what you know ain't
so."
[Mark Twain (1835-1910)
When I was a schoolboy I remember one English lesson that was devoted to
'exaggeration for effect'.
Your post above is a prime example. Care to elaborate on the
'narrowness' of 'not believing in invisible gods'?
Cheers
Bob
Humanist Brit.
Hong Kong
The opposite of the religious fanatic is not the fanatical atheist but
the gentle cynic who cares not whether there is a god or not.
[Eric Hoffer (1902 - 1983)]
All the best,
Roger Pearse
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| User: "Cary Kittrell" |
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19 May 2005 03:15:32 PM |
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In article <1116532010.969262.229790@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> writes:
thomas p wrote:
The truth is that prayers are not answered. There is no mystery
about
it beyond why anybody would be silly enough to argue that they are
answered in the face of reality by calling it a mystery.
<chuckle>
I'm glad I'm not an atheist; I could never live in so narrow a space,
certain of things of which I know nothing, and ignorant of things that
every schoolboy knows.
Would this be the schoolboy in Bahrain who knows that there is no
God but Allah, and that Mohammed is His prophet; or the schoolboy
in Tel Aviv who knows that a certain offshoot of Judaism got
suckered in by a false messiah; or the schoolboy in Katmandu
who knows that the cessation of desire offers the only escape
from the endless cycle of rebirth?
-- cary
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| User: "bob young" |
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| Title: Re: Breaking The Chains Of Atheism. |
20 May 2005 01:03:03 AM |
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Cary Kittrell wrote:
In article <1116532010.969262.229790@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> writes:
thomas p wrote:
The truth is that prayers are not answered. There is no mystery
about
it beyond why anybody would be silly enough to argue that they are
answered in the face of reality by calling it a mystery.
<chuckle>
I'm glad I'm not an atheist; I could never live in so narrow a space,
certain of things of which I know nothing, and ignorant of things that
every schoolboy knows.
Would this be the schoolboy in Bahrain who knows that there is no
God but Allah, and that Mohammed is His prophet; or the schoolboy
in Tel Aviv who knows that a certain offshoot of Judaism got
suckered in by a false messiah; or the schoolboy in Katmandu
who knows that the cessation of desire offers the only escape
from the endless cycle of rebirth?
-- cary
Schoolboys have a habit of following what their parents teach them; only to find it reinforced by
their schoolmasters.
Religion should be treated like drugs and smoking, a banned subject which is not allowed until
reaching the age of eighteen.
Maybe then the Islamic suicide bombers might have a different slant on blowing themselves and other
people up and the dear old rich ladies in the USA will stop sending in their life savings to some
crooked evangelist company on the television.
Have you got your plastic crucifix yet with a piece of Bethlehem inside it? Only a few left, get yours
NOW and get also a free.............! <Groan>
The above should be against the law also
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| User: "Jos Flachs no x, please" |
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19 May 2005 06:04:57 PM |
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On 19 May 2005 12:46:51 -0700, wrote:
thomas p wrote:
The truth is that prayers are not answered. There is no mystery
about
it beyond why anybody would be silly enough to argue that they are
answered in the face of reality by calling it a mystery.
<chuckle>
I'm glad I'm not an atheist; I could never live in so narrow a space,
certain of things of which I know nothing, and ignorant of things that
every schoolboy knows.
Hi Roger,
Just be happy with your delusions.
All the best to you too,
Jos
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| User: "thomas p" |
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20 May 2005 03:34:29 PM |
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On 19 May 2005 12:46:51 -0700, wrote:
thomas p wrote:
The truth is that prayers are not answered. There is no mystery
about
it beyond why anybody would be silly enough to argue that they are
answered in the face of reality by calling it a mystery.
<chuckle>
I'm glad I'm not an atheist; I could never live in so narrow a space,
certain of things of which I know nothing, and ignorant of things that
every schoolboy knows.
We can always rely on Roger to say something that is as nasty as it is
dishonest. He is such a transparent fraud.
Thomas P.
"Life must be lived forwards but understood backwards"
(Kierkegaard)
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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22 May 2005 07:59:52 AM |
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In our last episode <7tds81pefgqn7v5uh1dh081d79dfl7r249@4ax.com>, thomas p
pirouetted gracefully and with great fanfare proclaimed:
On 19 May 2005 12:46:51 -0700, wrote:
thomas p wrote:
The truth is that prayers are not answered. There is no mystery
about
it beyond why anybody would be silly enough to argue that they are
answered in the face of reality by calling it a mystery.
<chuckle>
I'm glad I'm not an atheist; I could never live in so narrow a space,
certain of things of which I know nothing, and ignorant of things that
every schoolboy knows.
We can always rely on Roger to say something that is as nasty as it is
dishonest. He is such a transparent fraud.
Wonder where people like him get the idea that their religion is made
anything but repulsive when they behave as such unrelenting assholes?
(It's like Dork, who'd want to be a Catholic if it produces people like
Dork?)
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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"Come to think of it, there are already a million
monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet
is NOTHING like Shakespeare!" -- Blair Houghton
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| User: "wcb" |
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21 May 2005 04:00:57 AM |
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thomas p wrote:
On 19 May 2005 12:46:51 -0700, wrote:
thomas p wrote:
The truth is that prayers are not answered. There is no mystery
about
it beyond why anybody would be silly enough to argue that they are
answered in the face of reality by calling it a mystery.
<chuckle>
I'm glad I'm not an atheist; I could never live in so narrow a space,
certain of things of which I know nothing, and ignorant of things that
every schoolboy knows.
We can always rely on Roger to say something that is as nasty as it is
dishonest. He is such a transparent fraud.
I think the words you are looking for are mean
spirited, lying, superstitous troll.
I keep trying to discuss with him why he is wrong about
everything, and he never replies to my arguments. He doesn't
want to respond to reasonable arguments, facts or logic.
I keep calling him on that and he just keeps on trolling.
He is about the same sort of troll as Duke or Pastor Dave.
He's just more pretensious is all.
--
When I shake my killfile, I can hear them buzzing!
Cheerful Charlie
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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21 May 2005 03:56:06 AM |
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wcb wrote:
thomas p wrote:
On 19 May 2005 12:46:51 -0700, wrote:
thomas p wrote:
The truth is that prayers are not answered. There is no mystery
about
it beyond why anybody would be silly enough to argue that they are
answered in the face of reality by calling it a mystery.
<chuckle>
I'm glad I'm not an atheist; I could never live in so narrow a space,
certain of things of which I know nothing, and ignorant of things that
every schoolboy knows.
We can always rely on Roger to say something that is as nasty as it is
dishonest. He is such a transparent fraud.
I think the words you are looking for are mean
spirited, lying, superstitous troll.
I keep trying to discuss with him why he is wrong about
everything, and he never replies to my arguments. He doesn't
want to respond to reasonable arguments, facts or logic.
I keep calling him on that and he just keeps on trolling.
He is about the same sort of troll as Duke or Pastor Dave.
He's just more pretensious is all.
At least duke "responds," which is more than I can say than some trolls
here. (Note the quotes around the word "responds.")
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| User: "Loadnlock" |
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21 May 2005 11:17:10 AM |
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DanielSan wrote:
At least duke "responds,"
No he doesn't. Not with anything cogent or worth reading atall atall. You
should just ignore trolls like Puke.
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| User: "Steve Knight" |
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18 May 2005 05:30:58 PM |
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On 18 May 2005 14:41:42 -0700, "vivapadrepio@aol.com"
<vivapadrepio@aol.com> wrote:
Ask, and you will receive. -- John 16:24.
ROTF
Quoting 'holy' scripture to atheists!
Funny.
Why don't you ever engage in a one on one debate?
It's because you're a chicken ***** without an intellect.
Warlord Steve
BAAWA
www.sonic.net/~wooly
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| User: "Guardian Pegasus" |
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18 May 2005 04:48:22 PM |
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On 18 May 2005 14:41:42 -0700, "vivapadrepio@aol.com"
<vivapadrepio@aol.com> wrote:
Ask, and you will receive. -- John 16:24.
Double cheeseburger, large fries, 'preciate it... vrooooooooooom
"Re: Breaking The Chains Of Atheism."
When god said 'let there be light', he was refering to us. Enlightened
people.
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| User: "" |
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25 May 2005 05:04:54 PM |
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Guardian Pegasus wrote:
On 18 May 2005 14:41:42 -0700, "vivapadrepio@aol.com"
<vivapadrepio@aol.com> wrote:
Ask, and you will receive. -- John 16:24.
Double cheeseburger, large fries, 'preciate it... vrooooooooooom
"Re: Breaking The Chains Of Atheism."
When god said 'let there be light', he was refering to us. Enlightened
people.
Then he came around and said:"Let us make the man in our image?"
He could hav said:"We have already made the enlightened in our
image."
***** THE ATHEISTS, ***** THEM ALL for their blasphemies.
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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25 May 2005 06:30:13 PM |
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wrote:
Guardian Pegasus wrote:
On 18 May 2005 14:41:42 -0700, "vivapadrepio@aol.com"
<vivapadrepio@aol.com> wrote:
Ask, and you will receive. -- John 16:24.
Double cheeseburger, large fries, 'preciate it... vrooooooooooom
"Re: Breaking The Chains Of Atheism."
When god said 'let there be light', he was refering to us. Enlightened
people.
Then he came around and said:"Let us make the man in our image?"
He could hav said:"We have already made the enlightened in our
image."
***** THE ATHEISTS, ***** THEM ALL for their blasphemies.
Aw, our little baby is growing up...
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| User: "Katt" |
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25 May 2005 05:14:25 PM |
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When god said 'let there be light', he was refering to us. Enlightened
people.
You mean *embrightened* ones...
http://the-brights.net/
!!!!!!
Then he came around and said:"Let us make the man in our image?"
He could hav said:"We have already made the enlightened in our
image."
***** THE ATHEISTS, ***** THEM ALL for their blasphemies.
Typical perverted Christain: sees sex as a means for hateful punishment,
vindictive violence, and threatening insult.
Keep these filthy, damaged perverts away from our little kids!
Verily I say unto thee: there will come a time when 'Christianity' will
*have its own entry in the DSM*...
Katt.
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| User: "Alfred" |
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26 May 2005 07:51:17 PM |
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"Katt" <seruhshjaudn@dfhu.net> wrote in message
news:5N6le.645$a5.413@newsfe5-win.ntli.net...
When god said 'let there be light', he was refering to us. Enlightened
people.
You mean *embrightened* ones...
http://the-brights.net/
!!!!!!
By the way, everything is natural including what we perceive as magic. We
just don't understand how its done yet. Turning water into wine is a
perfectly natural thing to do once you know how. I don't, so for me this
is still a miracle, but is is none the less 'natural'.
Your group is bogus and designed to appeal to people without imagination or
confidence. Go away.
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| User: "Katt" |
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26 May 2005 08:08:46 PM |
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"Alfred" <dot@dot.com> wrote in message
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"Katt" <seruhshjaudn@dfhu.net> wrote in message
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When god said 'let there be light', he was refering to us. Enlightened
people.
You mean *embrightened* ones...
http://the-brights.net/
!!!!!!
By the way, everything is natural including what we perceive as magic. We
just don't understand how its done yet. Turning water into wine is a
perfectly natural thing to do once you know how. I don't, so for me this
is still a miracle, but is is none the less 'natural'.
Yeah, right. Your Jeebus 'turning water into wine'. Natural.
Just a bit of a shame it *never fucking happened*, isn't it...?
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/circus.html
Your group is bogus and designed to appeal to people without imagination
or
confidence. Go away.
Wow! *Serious* ego-boundary problem! You think you can order us to *leave
our own n/gs*...?!?!? You want to tell us that we atheists should 'go away'
from 'alt.atheism', 'talk.atheism' and 'uk.philosophy.atheism'...?
Nurse!! Nurse!! Quick!! Alfred needs his medication!! He's waving his
hard-on at everyone again!!
Katt.
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| User: "Alfred" |
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27 May 2005 07:38:52 PM |
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"Katt" <seruhshjaudn@dfhu.net> wrote in message
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"Alfred" <dot@dot.com> wrote in message
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"Katt" <seruhshjaudn@dfhu.net> wrote in message
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When god said 'let there be light', he was refering to us.
Enlightened
people.
You mean *embrightened* ones...
http://the-brights.net/
!!!!!!
By the way, everything is natural including what we perceive as magic.
We
just don't understand how its done yet. Turning water into wine is a
perfectly natural thing to do once you know how. I don't, so for me
this
is still a miracle, but is is none the less 'natural'.
Yeah, right. Your Jeebus 'turning water into wine'. Natural.
Just a bit of a shame it *never fucking happened*, isn't it...?
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/circus.html
Your group is bogus and designed to appeal to people without imagination
or
confidence. Go away.
Wow! *Serious* ego-boundary problem! You think you can order us to *leave
our own n/gs*...?!?!? You want to tell us that we atheists should 'go
away'
from 'alt.atheism', 'talk.atheism' and 'uk.philosophy.atheism'...?
Nurse!! Nurse!! Quick!! Alfred needs his medication!! He's waving his
hard-on at everyone again!!
I have never said I was a Christian or that I believed in God. However, I do
maintain that your website is for sad lonely people who should have 'MUG'
tattooed on their forehead in very large letters so that we can all take
advantage.
And by the way, if its possible to turn water into wine intantly, then its a
natural process, and can be put into the same catagory as travelling to the
moon was 200 years ago.
And My comment 'Go away' was solely aimed at you, no-one else. And that is
because I think you're about as useful to the debate as George Hammond.
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| User: "Katt" |
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27 May 2005 07:51:40 PM |
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"Alfred" <dot@dot.com> wrote in message
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"Katt" <seruhshjaudn@dfhu.net> wrote in message
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"Alfred" <dot@dot.com> wrote in message
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"Katt" <seruhshjaudn@dfhu.net> wrote in message
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When god said 'let there be light', he was refering to us.
Enlightened
people.
You mean *embrightened* ones...
http://the-brights.net/
!!!!!!
By the way, everything is natural including what we perceive as magic.
We
just don't understand how its done yet. Turning water into wine is a
perfectly natural thing to do once you know how. I don't, so for me
this
is still a miracle, but is is none the less 'natural'.
Yeah, right. Your Jeebus 'turning water into wine'. Natural.
Just a bit of a shame it *never fucking happened*, isn't it...?
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/circus.html
Your group is bogus and designed to appeal to people without
imagination
or
confidence. Go away.
Wow! *Serious* ego-boundary problem! You think you can order us to *leave
our own n/gs*...?!?!? You want to tell us that we atheists should 'go
away'
from 'alt.atheism', 'talk.atheism' and 'uk.philosophy.atheism'...?
Nurse!! Nurse!! Quick!! Alfred needs his medication!! He's waving his
hard-on at everyone again!!
I have never said I was a Christian or that I believed in God. However, I
do
maintain that your website is for sad lonely people who should have 'MUG'
tattooed on their forehead in very large letters so that we can all take
advantage.
And by the way, if its possible to turn water into wine intantly, then its
a
natural process, and can be put into the same catagory as travelling to
the
moon was 200 years ago.
And My comment 'Go away' was solely aimed at you, no-one else. And that is
because I think you're about as useful to the debate as George Hammond.
Look, Alfred: no-one gives a ***** about what you think, or about how you lie
about it afterwards when someone calls you on it. No-one cares.
No-one. At all. Cares.
Really.
So just go and *kill yourself*, all right? Preferably in a really
entertaining and vividly splattery manner.
'Cos otherwise, no-one is even gonna fucking *notice you*...
Okay?
Thanks!
Katt.
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| User: "Alfred" |
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27 May 2005 08:52:22 PM |
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"Katt" <seruhshjaudn@dfhu.net> wrote in message
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"Alfred" <dot@dot.com> wrote in message
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"Katt" <seruhshjaudn@dfhu.net> wrote in message
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When god said 'let there be light', he was refering to us.
Enlightened
people.
You mean *embrightened* ones...
http://the-brights.net/
!!!!!!
By the way, everything is natural including what we perceive as
magic.
We
just don't understand how its done yet. Turning water into wine is a
perfectly natural thing to do once you know how. I don't, so for me
this
is still a miracle, but is is none the less 'natural'.
Yeah, right. Your Jeebus 'turning water into wine'. Natural.
Just a bit of a shame it *never fucking happened*, isn't it...?
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/circus.html
Your group is bogus and designed to appeal to people without
imagination
or
confidence. Go away.
Wow! *Serious* ego-boundary problem! You think you can order us to
*leave
our own n/gs*...?!?!? You want to tell us that we atheists should 'go
away'
from 'alt.atheism', 'talk.atheism' and 'uk.philosophy.atheism'...?
Nurse!! Nurse!! Quick!! Alfred needs his medication!! He's waving his
hard-on at everyone again!!
I have never said I was a Christian or that I believed in God. However,
I
do
maintain that your website is for sad lonely people who should have
'MUG'
tattooed on their forehead in very large letters so that we can all take
advantage.
And by the way, if its possible to turn water into wine intantly, then
its
a
natural process, and can be put into the same catagory as travelling to
the
moon was 200 years ago.
And My comment 'Go away' was solely aimed at you, no-one else. And that
is
because I think you're about as useful to the debate as George Hammond.
Look, Alfred: no-one gives a ***** about what you think, or about how you
lie
about it afterwards when someone calls you on it. No-one cares.
No-one. At all. Cares.
Really.
So just go and *kill yourself*, all right? Preferably in a really
entertaining and vividly splattery manner.
'Cos otherwise, no-one is even gonna fucking *notice you*...
Okay?
Thanks!
Katt.
I am so sorry, I have rechecked my posting and have made an error. I should
not have referred to turning 'water into wine' it obviously confused you. I
should have mentioned the one time prospect of travelling faster than 25
miles per hour. Back in the day when this had not been achieved, that would
be pre-automobile, there was 'scientific proof' that to exceed 25mph would
cause a person's ribcage to collapse. Also, back in a different day, old
women were burnt at the stake for telling people to use mouldy bread to cure
infection. It was only recently that Fleming discovered Penicillin. Whether
something is considered miraculous or witchcraft or mundane depends on where
one starts the journey.
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| User: "R. Pierce Butler" |
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| Title: Re: Breaking The Chains Of Atheism. |
29 May 2005 11:23:50 PM |
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"Katt" <seruhshjaudn@dfhu.net> wrote in message
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When god said 'let there be light', he was refering to us.
Enlightened
people.
You mean *embrightened* ones...
http://the-brights.net/
!!!!!!
By the way, everything is natural including what we perceive as
magic.
We
just don't understand how its done yet. Turning water into wine is
a perfectly natural thing to do once you know how. I don't, so
for me
this
is still a miracle, but is is none the less 'natural'.
Yeah, right. Your Jeebus 'turning water into wine'. Natural.
Just a bit of a shame it *never fucking happened*, isn't it...?
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/circus.html
Your group is bogus and designed to appeal to people without
imagination
or
confidence. Go away.
Wow! *Serious* ego-boundary problem! You think you can order us to
*leave
our own n/gs*...?!?!? You want to tell us that we atheists should
'go
away'
from 'alt.atheism', 'talk.atheism' and 'uk.philosophy.atheism'...?
Nurse!! Nurse!! Quick!! Alfred needs his medication!! He's waving
his hard-on at everyone again!!
I have never said I was a Christian or that I believed in God.
However,
I
do
maintain that your website is for sad lonely people who should have
'MUG'
tattooed on their forehead in very large letters so that we can all
take advantage.
And by the way, if its possible to turn water into wine intantly,
then
its
a
natural process, and can be put into the same catagory as travelling
to the
moon was 200 years ago.
And My comment 'Go away' was solely aimed at you, no-one else. And
that
is
because I think you're about as useful to the debate as George
Hammond.
Look, Alfred: no-one gives a ***** about what you think, or about how
you
lie
about it afterwards when someone calls you on it. No-one cares.
No-one. At all. Cares.
Really.
So just go and *kill yourself*, all right? Preferably in a really
entertaining and vividly splattery manner.
'Cos otherwise, no-one is even gonna fucking *notice you*...
Okay?
Thanks!
Katt.
I am so sorry, I have rechecked my posting and have made an error. I
should not have referred to turning 'water into wine' it obviously
confused you. I should have mentioned the one time prospect of
travelling faster than 25 miles per hour. Back in the day when this had
not been achieved, that would be pre-automobile, there was 'scientific
proof' that to exceed 25mph would cause a person's ribcage to collapse.
Also, back in a different day, old women were burnt at the stake for
telling people to use mouldy bread to cure infection. It was only
recently that Fleming discovered Penicillin. Whether something is
considered miraculous or witchcraft or mundane depends on where one
starts the journey.
But here is a big difference. While science is constantly revising and
correcting it's position, religion still sticks to the same old garbage
that was deemed true 2000+ years ago. What for instance? Talking snakes,
burning bushes that are not "burning", people "walking" on water, the dead
rising from the grave, or any number of ***** stories. While your
example of "ribcage collapsing" is a nice try, it is wholly without merit
as anyone who has stood outside when a 35 MPH wind was blowing will tell
you. Don't bother with the old bumblebees can't fly bit either. That is a
***** story based on a reporter misquoting a scientist. Now if you are
making the allegation that science has all the answers, it doesn't. If you
think the bible has all the answers you have been lied to and are now
promulgating the lie.
rj
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| User: "Katt" |
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| Title: Re: Breaking The Chains Of Atheism. |
27 May 2005 08:51:31 PM |
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"Alfred" <dot@dot.com> wrote in message
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I am so sorry, I have rechecked my posting and have made an error. I
should
not have referred to turning 'water into wine' it obviously confused you.
I
should have mentioned the one time prospect of travelling faster than 25
miles per hour. Back in the day when this had not been achieved, that
would
be pre-automobile, there was 'scientific proof' that to exceed 25mph would
cause a person's ribcage to collapse. Also, back in a different day, old
women were burnt at the stake for telling people to use mouldy bread to
cure
infection. It was only recently that Fleming discovered Penicillin.
Whether
something is considered miraculous or witchcraft or mundane depends on
where
one starts the journey.
Look, Alfred: no-one gives a ***** about what you think, or about how you lie
about it afterwards when someone calls you on it. No-one cares.
No-one. At all. Cares.
Really.
So just go and *kill yourself*, all right? Preferably in a really
entertaining and vividly splattery manner.
'Cos otherwise, no-one is even gonna fucking *notice you*...
Okay?
Thanks!
Katt.
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| User: "Alfred" |
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| Title: Re: Breaking The Chains Of Atheism. |
28 May 2005 05:14:27 AM |
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"Katt" <seruhshjaudn@dfhu.net> wrote in message
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"Alfred" <dot@dot.com> wrote in message
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I am so sorry, I have rechecked my posting and have made an error. I
should
not have referred to turning 'water into wine' it obviously confused
you.
I
should have mentioned the one time prospect of travelling faster than 25
miles per hour. Back in the day when this had not been achieved, that
would
be pre-automobile, there was 'scientific proof' that to exceed 25mph
would
cause a person's ribcage to collapse. Also, back in a different day, old
women were burnt at the stake for telling people to use mouldy bread to
cure
infection. It was only recently that Fleming discovered Penicillin.
Whether
something is considered miraculous or witchcraft or mundane depends on
where
one starts the journey.
Look, Alfred: no-one gives a ***** about what you think, or about how you
lie
about it afterwards when someone calls you on it. No-one cares.
No-one. At all. Cares.
Really.
So just go and *kill yourself*, all right? Preferably in a really
entertaining and vividly splattery manner.
'Cos otherwise, no-one is even gonna fucking *notice you*...
Intelligent discussion has obviously returned to this debate.
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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27 May 2005 10:01:13 PM |
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Alfred wrote:
"Katt" <seruhshjaudn@dfhu.net> wrote in message
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"Alfred" <dot@dot.com> wrote in message
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"Katt" <seruhshjaudn@dfhu.net> wrote in message
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When god said 'let there be light', he was refering to us.
Enlightened
people.
You mean *embrightened* ones...
http://the-brights.net/
!!!!!!
By the way, everything is natural including what we perceive as magic.
We
just don't understand how its done yet. Turning water into wine is a
perfectly natural thing to do once you know how. I don't, so for me
this
is still a miracle, but is is none the less 'natural'.
Yeah, right. Your Jeebus 'turning water into wine'. Natural.
Just a bit of a shame it *never fucking happened*, isn't it...?
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/circus.html
Your group is bogus and designed to appeal to people without imagination
or
confidence. Go away.
Wow! *Serious* ego-boundary problem! You think you can order us to *leave
our own n/gs*...?!?!? You want to tell us that we atheists should 'go
away'
from 'alt.atheism', 'talk.atheism' and 'uk.philosophy.atheism'...?
Nurse!! Nurse!! Quick!! Alfred needs his medication!! He's waving his
hard-on at everyone again!!
I have never said I was a Christian or that I believed in God. However, I do
maintain that your website is for sad lonely people who should have 'MUG'
tattooed on their forehead in very large letters so that we can all take
advantage.
What do you mean, exactly, by "take advantage?" Are you advocating
violence against atheists? Can I let ntli.net know that you're doing this?
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| User: "MicroK" |
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27 May 2005 03:54:08 PM |
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do ants believe in humans?
no, the are blind.
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| User: "Dubh Ghall" |
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28 May 2005 06:11:50 AM |
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On 27 May 2005 13:54:08 -0700, "MicroK" <uhfx@yahoo.com> wrote:
do ants believe in humans?
no, the are blind.
Sight, is not the only sense.
--
Puck Greenman
The spelling, Like any opinion stated here,
is purely my own
#162 BAAWA Knight.
Plonked by Rob Duncan
Na bister 500,000
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| User: "Alfred" |
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26 May 2005 07:42:57 PM |
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"Katt" <seruhshjaudn@dfhu.net> wrote in message
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When god said 'let there be light', he was refering to us. Enlightened
people.
You mean *embrightened* ones...
http://the-brights.net/
!!!!!!
No, as this story is part of the creation myth he was referring to the
creation of the Sun. If you recall it was only relatively recently that it
was established that Earth went around the Sun. Prior to that Earth was flat
and the centre of the universe.
And I guess you can't be that bright as you got the home address of your
web-site wrong.
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| User: "Katt" |
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26 May 2005 07:46:11 PM |
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"Alfred" <dot@dot.com> wrote in message
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"Katt" <seruhshjaudn@dfhu.net> wrote in message
news:5N6le.645$a5.413@newsfe5-win.ntli.net...
When god said 'let there be light', he was refering to us. Enlightened
people.
You mean *embrightened* ones...
http://the-brights.net/
!!!!!!
No, as this story is part of the creation myth he was referring to the
creation of the Sun. If you recall it was only relatively recently that it
was established that Earth went around the Sun. Prior to that Earth was
flat
and the centre of the universe.
And I guess you can't be that bright as you got the home address of your
web-site wrong.
Funny: when I clicked on *that very link* just now, I went *straight to the
page*...!
LOL! *Don't give up your day job*, kid!
Katt.
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| User: "Cary Kittrell" |
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| Title: Re: Breaking The Chains Of Atheism. |
25 May 2005 05:24:14 PM |
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In article <1117058693.965133.309740@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> writes:
Guardian Pegasus wrote:
On 18 May 2005 14:41:42 -0700, "vivapadrepio@aol.com"
<vivapadrepio@aol.com> wrote:
Ask, and you will receive. -- John 16:24.
Double cheeseburger, large fries, 'preciate it... vrooooooooooom
"Re: Breaking The Chains Of Atheism."
When god said 'let there be light', he was refering to us. Enlightened
people.
Then he came around and said:"Let us make the man in our image?"
He could hav said:"We have already made the enlightened in our
image."
***** THE ATHEISTS, ***** THEM ALL for their blasphemies.
Boy's got a point, though: the ratio of receiving to asking
seems to be remarkably low. Or unremarkably low, depending
on your point of view.
-- cary
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| User: "towelie" |
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18 May 2005 06:35:55 PM |
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TV's Guardian Pegasus wrote:
On 18 May 2005 14:41:42 -0700, "vivapadrepio@aol.com"
<vivapadrepio@aol.com> wrote:
Ask, and you will receive. -- John 16:24.
Double cheeseburger, large fries, 'preciate it... vrooooooooooom
I want a Ferarri, a blonde, and $10,000 cash. Pronto.
--
Beliefs are dangerous. Beliefs allow the mind to stop functioning.
A non-functioning mind is clinically dead. Believe in nothing.
- Maynard James Keenan
The belief in the Christian god... is an appalling nightmare. I reject
the notion that the whole universe was created by this kind of evil
creature who would create such a thing. - Anthony Flew, March 22, 2005
aa #2133
ap #19
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| User: "The Great Hairy One" |
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19 May 2005 04:31:55 AM |
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In article <PpCdnYvLU8XuTBbfRVn-1g@centurytel.net>,
bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com says...
I want a Ferarri, a blonde, and $10,000 cash. Pronto.
Only $10,000? Why stop there?
--
The Great Hairy One,
BAAWA all night long
SMASHing it to the masses
====================================
CEO EAC Roleplaying Division
Roleplay. Just do it.
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