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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "J Young"
Date: 03 Oct 2006 11:20:04 PM
Object: Bringing the Bible back to the classroom
The Bible should be taught in every classroom in America. The literary
qualities alone are sufficient enough reason to do so. America can not spend
her energies catering to the crying of the Jews and the Atheists, both of
whom have an aversion to anything Christian. The overwhelming majority of
people embrace the Bible and should have cause to expect it to be taught to
our children.
http://headlines.agapepress.org/archive/10/32006h.asp
....This academic year, hundreds of public school districts nationwide are
offering elective Bible courses in high schools, which can be legal if it's
done carefully. The Supreme Court, in its 1963 ruling that barred ceremonial
school Bible readings, said the Bible is "worthy of study for its literary
and historic qualities" so long as material is "presented objectively as
part of a secular program of education." Surveys show widespread biblical
illiteracy among young Americans, much to the distress of high school and
college teachers who recognize scripture's central role in culture and
history. Competing curricula are offered by the Bible Literacy Project and
the National Council on Bible Curriculum in Public Schools.
--
----------
J Yöung
youngopinions@aol.com
.

User: "Chellie"

Title: Re: Bringing the Bible back to the classroom 06 Oct 2006 01:56:46 PM
Robibnikoff wrote:

"Chellie" <TNotch1@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1160029924.175221.11470@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

Pangur Ban,

At least you are not hypocriting.


"hypocriting"?

I say either obey all God has

commanded or stop worship all together. I neither celebrate Christmas.
Well Easter, 4th of July, Memorial Day, Veteran's Day, Halloween....
Now I do celebrate birthdays, anniversaries, Mother's Day, Father's
Day, Thanksgiving and for the couples: Valentines Day.


Are you a JW?
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557

**********************************************************************************************************
No I am not JW. I belong to The Whole Truth Church of the Lord Jesus
Christ of the Apostolic Faith. In other words, I am of the Apostolic
faith.
Striving to perfection and holiness in Jesus Christ,
Chellie
.
User: "Libertarius"

Title: Re: Bringing the Bible back to the classroom - Twisted 06 Oct 2006 03:04:56 PM
Chellie wrote:

Robibnikoff wrote:

"Chellie" <TNotch1@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1160029924.175221.11470@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

Pangur Ban,

At least you are not hypocriting.


"hypocriting"?

I say either obey all God has

commanded or stop worship all together. I neither celebrate Christmas.
Well Easter, 4th of July, Memorial Day, Veteran's Day, Halloween....
Now I do celebrate birthdays, anniversaries, Mother's Day, Father's
Day, Thanksgiving and for the couples: Valentines Day.


Are you a JW?
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557


**********************************************************************************************************

No I am not JW. I belong to The Whole Truth Church of the Lord Jesus
Christ of the Apostolic Faith. In other words, I am of the Apostolic
faith.

===>Oh, my goodness! Not another one?
Someone invented yet another twisted Christian sect! -- L.
.


User: "Chellie"

Title: Re: Bringing the Bible back to the classroom 06 Oct 2006 01:58:51 PM
Robibnikoff wrote:

Are you JW?

**********************************************************************************************************
Also JW don't celebrate anything. Not even birthdays. At least all the
JW I knew didn't.
Striving to perfection and holiness in Jesus Christ,
Chellie
.

User: "JohnN"

Title: Re: Bringing the Bible back to the classroom 04 Oct 2006 03:13:12 PM
Chellie wrote:

J Young wrote:

The Bible should be taught in every classroom in America. The literary
qualities alone are sufficient enough reason to do so. America can not spend
her energies catering to the crying of the Jews and the Atheists, both of
whom have an aversion to anything Christian. The overwhelming majority of
people embrace the Bible and should have cause to expect it to be taught to
our children.

**********************************************************************************************************

Well, I know for one that there used to be prayer said every morning in
the classrooms. I believe it was the Lord's prayer. A woman fought this
by going to the Supreme court to have church and state separation. She
won. Not long after that, "things" started happening in schools. Now
people may say I am looking too much into stuff but when there was
prayer in school, things were calmer (at least the American schools and
yes I know about the schools in "ghetto" areas). We now have shooters
shooting up the schools because the shooters/students are fed up with
God or they are getting picked on. They said that if the shooters which
were students, knew about gun safety and whatnot that the shootings
wouldn't have happened. They blame the parents.

But to have Christianity only in American schools will cause much
problems because of all of the other religions in the US. But to be
honest, this country was founded on Christianity. Have anyone read the
Constitution lately? Also it does states "freedom of religion". So USA
was prepapring for the melting pot it's now is.

People say that you J Young is a hypocrite because you want
Christianity in schools. Everyone says keep church and state
separation. I say the biggest hypocrites are those who celebrate
Christmas. Christmas is suppose to be religious right? Yet most
businesses and whatnot are closed on December 25. My mother gets double
pay if she works on Christmas Day. I say if you REALLY want to keep
separation of church and state, work on Christmas Eve/Day. I have read
nowhere in the Bible where Jesus commanded us to celebrate His
birthday. Also nowhere in the Bible states the month/day/year he was
born (yes the Bible does states months, read Esther). In Jeremiah
10:1-9, says the worship is of heathen custom. It describes Christmas
but some say it's another celebration the people were doing and it
wasn't Christmas. Bible says to not add nor take away (Revelation
22:18). By saying Jesus was born on 12/25, is adding. In 325 A.D., the
Catholic pope Constantine incorporated that. It was originally the
worship of the Sun god but he didn't want the celebration to go away so
he said it was Jesus' birthday. Easter is another as well...

You don't have to believe me but I find it odd that people go to other
books about customs/traditions or rather the Bible when you "jam" them
too hard about the Bible. They say the Bible is written by men and has
been translated so many times, who knows what's right? If you truly
believe that then stop worshipping.


Striving to perfection in Jesus Christ,
Chellie

In my hometown praying stopped in the schools and then the school were
desegregated! DAMN YOU ATHEISTS !!!
JohnN
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Bringing the Bible back to the classroom 09 Oct 2006 04:25:23 PM
On 4 Oct 2006 13:13:12 -0700, "JohnN" <jnorris53@hotmail.com> wrote in
alt.atheism


Chellie wrote:

J Young wrote:

The Bible should be taught in every classroom in America. The literary
qualities alone are sufficient enough reason to do so. America can not spend
her energies catering to the crying of the Jews and the Atheists, both of
whom have an aversion to anything Christian. The overwhelming majority of
people embrace the Bible and should have cause to expect it to be taught to
our children.

**********************************************************************************************************

Well, I know for one that there used to be prayer said every morning in
the classrooms. I believe it was the Lord's prayer. A woman fought this
by going to the Supreme court to have church and state separation. She
won. Not long after that, "things" started happening in schools. Now
people may say I am looking too much into stuff but when there was
prayer in school, things were calmer (at least the American schools and
yes I know about the schools in "ghetto" areas). We now have shooters
shooting up the schools because the shooters/students are fed up with
God or they are getting picked on. They said that if the shooters which
were students, knew about gun safety and whatnot that the shootings
wouldn't have happened. They blame the parents.

But to have Christianity only in American schools will cause much
problems because of all of the other religions in the US. But to be
honest, this country was founded on Christianity. Have anyone read the
Constitution lately? Also it does states "freedom of religion". So USA
was prepapring for the melting pot it's now is.

People say that you J Young is a hypocrite because you want
Christianity in schools. Everyone says keep church and state
separation. I say the biggest hypocrites are those who celebrate
Christmas. Christmas is suppose to be religious right? Yet most
businesses and whatnot are closed on December 25. My mother gets double
pay if she works on Christmas Day. I say if you REALLY want to keep
separation of church and state, work on Christmas Eve/Day. I have read
nowhere in the Bible where Jesus commanded us to celebrate His
birthday. Also nowhere in the Bible states the month/day/year he was
born (yes the Bible does states months, read Esther). In Jeremiah
10:1-9, says the worship is of heathen custom. It describes Christmas
but some say it's another celebration the people were doing and it
wasn't Christmas. Bible says to not add nor take away (Revelation
22:18). By saying Jesus was born on 12/25, is adding. In 325 A.D., the
Catholic pope Constantine incorporated that. It was originally the
worship of the Sun god but he didn't want the celebration to go away so
he said it was Jesus' birthday. Easter is another as well...

You don't have to believe me but I find it odd that people go to other
books about customs/traditions or rather the Bible when you "jam" them
too hard about the Bible. They say the Bible is written by men and has
been translated so many times, who knows what's right? If you truly
believe that then stop worshipping.


Striving to perfection in Jesus Christ,
Chellie


In my hometown praying stopped in the schools and then the school were
desegregated! DAMN YOU ATHEISTS !!!

And 'Jim Crow' was abolished.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
.


User: ""

Title: Re: Bringing the Bible back to the classroom 04 Oct 2006 01:55:51 PM
On 4-Oct-2006, "Chellie" <TNotch1@aol.com> wrote:

Well, I know for one that there used to be prayer said every morning in
the classrooms. I believe it was the Lord's prayer. A woman fought this
by going to the Supreme court to have church and state separation. She
won. Not long after that, "things" started happening in schools. Now
people may say I am looking too much into stuff but when there was
prayer in school, things were calmer (at least the American schools and
yes I know about the schools in "ghetto" areas). We now have shooters
shooting up the schools because the shooters/students are fed up with
God

Oh, good grief.
You people are even dumber than I thought.
& that's saying something.
Susan
.
User: "Chellie"

Title: Re: Bringing the Bible back to the classroom 05 Oct 2006 01:34:18 AM
wrote:

Oh, good grief.
You people are even dumber than I thought.
& that's saying something.

Call me dumb. Anyways I was referring to the shooting this week at the
Amish school. The shooter said he was "fed up with God". *moving on*
Striving for perfection and holiness in Jesus Christ,
Chellie
.
User: "Robibnikoff"

Title: Re: Bringing the Bible back to the classroom 05 Oct 2006 10:02:45 AM
"Chellie" <TNotch1@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1160030058.641083.22810@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

flaviaR@verizon.net wrote:

Oh, good grief.
You people are even dumber than I thought.
& that's saying something.


Call me dumb. Anyways I was referring to the shooting this week at the
Amish school. The shooter said he was "fed up with God". *moving on*

No, he said that he was "angry at god".
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Bringing the Bible back to the classroom 05 Oct 2006 02:18:49 PM
On 5-Oct-2006, "Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:

"Chellie" <TNotch1@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1160030058.641083.22810@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

flaviaR@verizon.net wrote:

Oh, good grief.
You people are even dumber than I thought.
& that's saying something.


Call me dumb. Anyways I was referring to the shooting this week at the
Amish school. The shooter said he was "fed up with God". *moving on*


No, he said that he was "angry at god".

And if he said that, he also said other things that had nothing to do w/G-d.
IOW, he was shooting for his own reasons (which I suspect had a lot to
do w/mental imbalance).
Susan
.
User: "Robibnikoff"

Title: Re: Bringing the Bible back to the classroom 05 Oct 2006 03:49:53 PM
<flaviaR@verizon.net> wrote in message news:tUcVg.16623$3T2.9358@trnddc06...


On 5-Oct-2006, "Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:

"Chellie" <TNotch1@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1160030058.641083.22810@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

flaviaR@verizon.net wrote:

Oh, good grief.
You people are even dumber than I thought.
& that's saying something.


Call me dumb. Anyways I was referring to the shooting this week at the
Amish school. The shooter said he was "fed up with God". *moving on*


No, he said that he was "angry at god".


And if he said that, he also said other things that had nothing to do
w/G-d.
IOW, he was shooting for his own reasons (which I suspect had a lot to
do w/mental imbalance).

I totally agree - I was just correcting Chellie.
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
.
User: "Jerry Francis"

Title: Re: Bringing the Bible back to the classroom 05 Oct 2006 03:59:17 PM
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in
news:4ol97tFf27soU1@individual.net:
- I was just correcting Chellie.
For anyone keeping score, I agree too.
.

User: ""

Title: Re: Bringing the Bible back to the classroom 05 Oct 2006 05:30:28 PM
On 5-Oct-2006, "Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:

<flaviaR@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:tUcVg.16623$3T2.9358@trnddc06...


On 5-Oct-2006, "Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:

"Chellie" <TNotch1@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1160030058.641083.22810@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

flaviaR@verizon.net wrote:

Oh, good grief.
You people are even dumber than I thought.
& that's saying something.


Call me dumb. Anyways I was referring to the shooting this week at
the
Amish school. The shooter said he was "fed up with God". *moving on*


No, he said that he was "angry at god".


And if he said that, he also said other things that had nothing to do
w/G-d.
IOW, he was shooting for his own reasons (which I suspect had a lot to
do w/mental imbalance).


I totally agree - I was just correcting Chellie.
--

And I was just chiming in w/you, elaborating.
Didn't mean to sound like I was contradicting you.
Susan
.



User: "Chellie"

Title: Re: Bringing the Bible back to the classroom 06 Oct 2006 02:00:54 PM
Robibnikoff wrote:

"Chellie" <TNotch1@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1160030058.641083.22810@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

flaviaR@verizon.net wrote:

Oh, good grief.
You people are even dumber than I thought.
& that's saying something.


Call me dumb. Anyways I was referring to the shooting this week at the
Amish school. The shooter said he was "fed up with God". *moving on*


No, he said that he was "angry at god".
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557

**********************************************************************************************************
Thank you for the correction. Yes the shooter did say he was angry at
God.
Striving to perfection and holiness in Jesus Christ,
Chellie
.
User: "Libertarius"

Title: Re: Bringing the Bible back to the classroom 06 Oct 2006 03:18:28 PM
Chellie wrote:

Robibnikoff wrote:

"Chellie" <TNotch1@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1160030058.641083.22810@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

flaviaR@verizon.net wrote:

Oh, good grief.
You people are even dumber than I thought.
& that's saying something.


Call me dumb. Anyways I was referring to the shooting this week at the
Amish school. The shooter said he was "fed up with God". *moving on*


No, he said that he was "angry at god".
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557


**********************************************************************************************************

Thank you for the correction. Yes the shooter did say he was angry at
God.

===>So, he had one thing in common with all the theists.
He believed! -- L.
.



User: "Scott Richter"

Title: Re: Bringing the Bible back to the classroom 06 Oct 2006 09:43:22 AM
Chellie <TNotch1@aol.com> wrote:

flaviaR@verizon.net wrote:

Oh, good grief.
You people are even dumber than I thought.
& that's saying something.


Call me dumb. Anyways I was referring to the shooting this week at the
Amish school. The shooter said he was "fed up with God".

Which probably happened because he was forced to recite the Lord's
Prayer in school...
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Bringing the Bible back to the classroom 09 Oct 2006 04:24:39 PM
On Fri, 6 Oct 2006 07:43:22 -0700,
(Scott
Richter) wrote in alt.atheism

Chellie <TNotch1@aol.com> wrote:

flaviaR@verizon.net wrote:

Oh, good grief.
You people are even dumber than I thought.
& that's saying something.


Call me dumb. Anyways I was referring to the shooting this week at the
Amish school. The shooter said he was "fed up with God".


Which probably happened because he was forced to recite the Lord's
Prayer in school...

Exactly. Parrotization.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
.


User: ""

Title: Re: Bringing the Bible back to the classroom 05 Oct 2006 08:34:25 AM
On 5-Oct-2006, "Chellie" <TNotch1@aol.com> wrote:

flaviaR@verizon.net wrote:

Oh, good grief.
You people are even dumber than I thought.
& that's saying something.


Call me dumb.

And arrogant, as well.
Keep your misisonizing to yourself.
Susan
.
User: "Chellie"

Title: Re: Bringing the Bible back to the classroom 06 Oct 2006 01:49:25 PM
wrote:

On 5-Oct-2006, "Chellie" <TNotch1@aol.com> wrote:

wrote:

Oh, good grief.
You people are even dumber than I thought.
& that's saying something.


Call me dumb.


And arrogant, as well.
Keep your misisonizing to yourself.

Susan

**********************************************************************************************************
If you say so. I don't see myself as arrogant but oh well.
Striving to perfection and holiness in Jesus Christ
.
User: "Attila"

Title: Re: Bringing the Bible back to the classroom 06 Oct 2006 06:19:48 PM
On 6 Oct 2006 11:49:25 -0700, "Chellie" <TNotch1@aol.com> in
alt.abortion with message-id
<1160160565.130176.192350@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> wrote:


flaviaR@verizon.net wrote:

On 5-Oct-2006, "Chellie" <TNotch1@aol.com> wrote:

flaviaR@verizon.net wrote:

Oh, good grief.
You people are even dumber than I thought.
& that's saying something.


Call me dumb.


And arrogant, as well.
Keep your misisonizing to yourself.

Susan

**********************************************************************************************************

If you say so. I don't see myself as arrogant but oh well.



Striving to perfection and holiness in Jesus Christ

Prove any such person ever existed.
--
Pro-Choice is Pro-Freedom
.




User: "Liz"

Title: Re: Bringing the Bible back to the classroom 04 Oct 2006 08:02:54 PM
On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 18:55:51 GMT,
in news message
<XsTUg.15630$3T2.2204@trnddc06> wrote:


On 4-Oct-2006, "Chellie" <TNotch1@aol.com> wrote:

Well, I know for one that there used to be prayer said every morning in
the classrooms. I believe it was the Lord's prayer. A woman fought this
by going to the Supreme court to have church and state separation. She
won. Not long after that, "things" started happening in schools. Now
people may say I am looking too much into stuff but when there was
prayer in school, things were calmer (at least the American schools and
yes I know about the schools in "ghetto" areas). We now have shooters
shooting up the schools because the shooters/students are fed up with
God


Oh, good grief.
You people are even dumber than I thought.
& that's saying something.

I was buying it until I got to the part about working on Christmas to
preserve the separation of church and State. At that point, I decided
it had to be a Loki. If I am proven wrong, I suggest we take up a
collection for additional schooling for this person . . . for
humanity's sake.
Liz #658 BAAWA
Did Jesus make you this stupid, or were you like that when he found you? -
JessHC
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Bringing the Bible back to the classroom 09 Oct 2006 04:22:58 PM
On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 21:02:54 -0400, Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote in
alt.atheism

On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 18:55:51 GMT,

in news message
<XsTUg.15630$3T2.2204@trnddc06> wrote:


On 4-Oct-2006, "Chellie" <TNotch1@aol.com> wrote:

Well, I know for one that there used to be prayer said every morning in
the classrooms. I believe it was the Lord's prayer. A woman fought this
by going to the Supreme court to have church and state separation. She
won. Not long after that, "things" started happening in schools. Now
people may say I am looking too much into stuff but when there was
prayer in school, things were calmer (at least the American schools and
yes I know about the schools in "ghetto" areas). We now have shooters
shooting up the schools because the shooters/students are fed up with
God


Oh, good grief.
You people are even dumber than I thought.
& that's saying something.


I was buying it until I got to the part about working on Christmas to
preserve the separation of church and State. At that point, I decided
it had to be a Loki. If I am proven wrong, I suggest we take up a
collection for additional schooling for this person . . . for
humanity's sake.

People like this are uneducatable. Flush them and move on.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
.
User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: Bringing the Bible back to the classroom 10 Oct 2006 03:49:14 PM
On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 14:22:58 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:

On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 21:02:54 -0400, Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote in
alt.atheism

On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 18:55:51 GMT,

in news message
<XsTUg.15630$3T2.2204@trnddc06> wrote:

On 4-Oct-2006, "Chellie" <TNotch1@aol.com> wrote:

Well, I know for one that there used to be prayer said every morning in
the classrooms.
We now have shooters
shooting up the schools because the shooters/students are fed up with
God

Oh, good grief.
You people are even dumber than I thought.
& that's saying something.

I was buying it until I got to the part about working on Christmas to
preserve the separation of church and State. At that point, I decided
it had to be a Loki. If I am proven wrong, I suggest we take up a
collection for additional schooling for this person . . . for
humanity's sake.

People like this are uneducatable. Flush them and move on.

Especially the part about shootings in schools being directly due to
removing prayer from the classroom, when one of the shootings took
place in a CATHOLIC HIGH SCHOOL - where there are not only prayers
every day, but religion is a required course.
Rocks keep looking smarter and smarter.
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
"They laughed at Newton, they laughed at Einstein, but they also laughed at
Bozo the Clown."
- Carl Sagan
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Bringing the Bible back to the classroom 11 Oct 2006 07:17:19 PM
On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 16:49:14 -0400, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote
in alt.atheism

On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 14:22:58 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:

On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 21:02:54 -0400, Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote in
alt.atheism

On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 18:55:51 GMT,

in news message
<XsTUg.15630$3T2.2204@trnddc06> wrote:

On 4-Oct-2006, "Chellie" <TNotch1@aol.com> wrote:


Well, I know for one that there used to be prayer said every morning in
the classrooms.


We now have shooters
shooting up the schools because the shooters/students are fed up with
God


Oh, good grief.
You people are even dumber than I thought.
& that's saying something.


I was buying it until I got to the part about working on Christmas to
preserve the separation of church and State. At that point, I decided
it had to be a Loki. If I am proven wrong, I suggest we take up a
collection for additional schooling for this person . . . for
humanity's sake.


People like this are uneducatable. Flush them and move on.


Especially the part about shootings in schools being directly due to
removing prayer from the classroom, when one of the shootings took
place in a CATHOLIC HIGH SCHOOL - where there are not only prayers
every day, but religion is a required course.

Rocks keep looking smarter and smarter.

I know. Mental toddlers ala Santa Claus.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
.




User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Bringing the Bible back to the classroom 09 Oct 2006 04:22:12 PM
On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 18:55:51 GMT,
wrote in
alt.atheism


On 4-Oct-2006, "Chellie" <TNotch1@aol.com> wrote:

Well, I know for one that there used to be prayer said every morning in
the classrooms. I believe it was the Lord's prayer. A woman fought this
by going to the Supreme court to have church and state separation. She
won. Not long after that, "things" started happening in schools. Now
people may say I am looking too much into stuff but when there was
prayer in school, things were calmer (at least the American schools and
yes I know about the schools in "ghetto" areas). We now have shooters
shooting up the schools because the shooters/students are fed up with
God


Oh, good grief.
You people are even dumber than I thought.
& that's saying something.

And they're encouraged to spawn like rabbits.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
.


User: "Attila"

Title: Re: Bringing the Bible back to the classroom 04 Oct 2006 03:34:31 PM
On 4 Oct 2006 09:33:40 -0700, "Chellie" <TNotch1@aol.com> in
alt.abortion with message-id
<1159979620.804211.232880@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> wrote:

J Young wrote:

The Bible should be taught in every classroom in America. The literary
qualities alone are sufficient enough reason to do so. America can not spend
her energies catering to the crying of the Jews and the Atheists, both of
whom have an aversion to anything Christian. The overwhelming majority of
people embrace the Bible and should have cause to expect it to be taught to
our children.

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Well, I know for one that there used to be prayer said every morning in
the classrooms. I believe it was the Lord's prayer. A woman fought this
by going to the Supreme court to have church and state separation. She
won. Not long after that, "things" started happening in schools. Now
people may say I am looking too much into stuff

Yes, you are.

but when there was
prayer in school, things were calmer (at least the American schools and
yes I know about the schools in "ghetto" areas). We now have shooters
shooting up the schools because the shooters/students are fed up with
God

Which one?

or they are getting picked on. They said that if the shooters which
were students, knew about gun safety and whatnot that the shootings
wouldn't have happened. They blame the parents.

But to have Christianity only in American schools will cause much
problems because of all of the other religions in the US. But to be
honest, this country was founded on Christianity.

No, it was not.

Have anyone read the
Constitution lately? Also it does states "freedom of religion". So USA
was prepapring for the melting pot it's now is.

People say that you J Young is a hypocrite because you want
Christianity in schools. Everyone says keep church and state
separation. I say the biggest hypocrites are those who celebrate
Christmas. Christmas is suppose to be religious right?

No. It is the was the year ends with a lot of sales.

Yet most
businesses and whatnot are closed on December 25. My mother gets double
pay if she works on Christmas Day.

SO what? That is true of any holiday.

I say if you REALLY want to keep
separation of church and state, work on Christmas Eve/Day. I have read
nowhere in the Bible where Jesus commanded us to celebrate His
birthday. Also nowhere in the Bible states the month/day/year he was
born (yes the Bible does states months, read Esther).

Before you use that source to prove anything first prove it is valid
and not pure myth.

In Jeremiah
10:1-9, says the worship is of heathen custom. It describes Christmas
but some say it's another celebration the people were doing and it
wasn't Christmas. Bible says to not add nor take away (Revelation
22:18). By saying Jesus was born on 12/25, is adding. In 325 A.D., the
Catholic pope Constantine incorporated that. It was originally the
worship of the Sun god but he didn't want the celebration to go away so
he said it was Jesus' birthday. Easter is another as well...

You don't have to believe me but I find it odd that people go to other
books about customs/traditions or rather the Bible when you "jam" them
too hard about the Bible. They say the Bible is written by men and has
been translated so many times, who knows what's right?

Then you agree that book should not be considered valid until it is
proven to be so.

If you truly
believe that then stop worshipping.


Striving to perfection in Jesus Christ,

Prove such a person ever existed.

Chellie

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Pro-Choice is Pro-Freedom
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User: "Gman"

Title: Re: Bringing the Bible back to the classroom 04 Oct 2006 01:54:46 AM
J Young wrote:

The Bible should be taught in every classroom in America. The literary
qualities alone are sufficient enough reason to do so. America can not spend
her energies catering to the crying of the Jews and the Atheists, both of
whom have an aversion to anything Christian. The overwhelming majority of
people embrace the Bible and should have cause to expect it to be taught to
our children.

OK, how 'bout we use the Jehovah's Witnesses New World Testament?
Sound good to you???
My point is, since you don't mind wanting to force everyone to your
desire, then we'll use a Bible which you probably don't approve of.
This way you'll know what it is like to be TOLD what to think and
believe by someone unknown to you.
Shall we FORCE the citizens to obey only one religious view?
Not in my America....
Gman
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User: ""

Title: Re: Bringing the Bible back to the classroom 03 Oct 2006 11:36:51 PM
J Young wrote:

The Bible should be taught in every classroom in America. The literary
qualities alone are sufficient enough reason to do so. America can not spend
her energies catering to the crying of the Jews and the Atheists, both of
whom have an aversion to anything Christian. The overwhelming majority of
people embrace the Bible and should have cause to expect it to be taught to
our children.

Why not the Vedas? The Koran? OT III?
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User: "Libertarius"

Title: Re: Bringing the Bible back to the classroom 05 Oct 2006 06:14:46 PM
wrote:

J Young wrote:


The Bible should be taught in every classroom in America. The literary
qualities alone are sufficient enough reason to do so. America can not spend
her energies catering to the crying of the Jews and the Atheists, both of
whom have an aversion to anything Christian. The overwhelming majority of
people embrace the Bible and should have cause to expect it to be taught to
our children.



Why not the Vedas? The Koran? OT III?

===>AESOP'S FABLES and GRIMMS' FAIRY TALES. -- L.
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User: "Robibnikoff"

Title: Re: Bringing the Bible back to the classroom 06 Oct 2006 11:06:59 AM
"Libertarius" <Libertarius@nothingbutthe.truth> wrote in message
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spartakus@my-deja.com wrote:

J Young wrote:


The Bible should be taught in every classroom in America. The literary
qualities alone are sufficient enough reason to do so. America can not
spend
her energies catering to the crying of the Jews and the Atheists, both of
whom have an aversion to anything Christian. The overwhelming majority of
people embrace the Bible and should have cause to expect it to be taught
to
our children.



Why not the Vedas? The Koran? OT III?


===>AESOP'S FABLES and GRIMMS' FAIRY TALES. -- L.

Only if the Grimms' Fairy Tales can be in their original form. Wouldn't
want to leave out any of the blood and gore.
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
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User: "Libertarius"

Title: Re: Bringing the Bible back to the classroom 06 Oct 2006 02:59:38 PM
Robibnikoff wrote:

"Libertarius" <Libertarius@nothingbutthe.truth> wrote in message
news:-ridnd_VR-N2DLjYnZ2dnUVZ_t6dnZ2d@comcast.com...

spartakus@my-deja.com wrote:


J Young wrote:



The Bible should be taught in every classroom in America. The literary
qualities alone are sufficient enough reason to do so. America can not
spend
her energies catering to the crying of the Jews and the Atheists, both of
whom have an aversion to anything Christian. The overwhelming majority of
people embrace the Bible and should have cause to expect it to be taught
to
our children.



Why not the Vedas? The Koran? OT III?


===>AESOP'S FABLES and GRIMMS' FAIRY TALES. -- L.



Only if the Grimms' Fairy Tales can be in their original form. Wouldn't
want to leave out any of the blood and gore.

===>Of course not.
But, just like with the Bible, it could also be taught that it is all
"allegorical". ;-) -- L.
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User: "Sphere"

Title: Re: Bringing the Bible back to the classroom 11 Oct 2006 08:36:05 PM
J Young wrote:

The Bible should be taught in every classroom in America. The literary
qualities alone are sufficient enough reason to do so....

Puke. It's one of the most boring books
I've ever tried to read. I couldn't finish
the crap.
Disjointed. No plot. Uneven. A mishmash
of early history, health tips, and parochial
metaphysics.
---
No essence. No permanence. No perfection.
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