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British Experts Make New Embryo Screening Test, Could Lead to Abortions |
I can't wait to see the reaction of the homos when science discovers the
'gay gene' and can identify it in a screening test. The ranks of the
pro-life movement will swell as parents after parents reject gay pre-born
babies. Suddenly, life will become sacred while the liberal egalitarians
cryout for more blood in the name of 'choice'.
http://www.lifenews.com/nat2366.html
London, England (LifeNews.com) -- British fertility specialists have
developed a new test that provides significantly enhanced screening of
unborn children for diseases before birth. The test increases the number of
diseases that can be searched for from 200 to 6,000. However, pro-life
groups are concerned the tests will lead to more abortions of physically or
mentally handicapped babies. The tests can also be used on human embryos
created through in-vitro fertilization and would likely lead to the
destruction of countless days-old unborn children who have potential
problems. "This is a big, big change in what we are going to be able to do.
It changes everything," said Professor Peter Braude of King's College
London, who was involved in the research. The work is due to be revealed at
the annual meeting in Prague of the European Society of Human Reproduction
and Embryology.
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30 Jun 2006 12:52:06 AM |
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<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
I can't wait to see the reaction of the homos when science discovers the
'gay gene' and can identify it in a screening test. The ranks of the
pro-life movement will swell as parents after parents reject gay pre-born
babies.
Jon Young turns into a pro-death murderer when it comes to gays.
No morality - just an insane need to make people obey and suffer.
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Ray Fischer
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30 Jun 2006 12:28:07 AM |
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<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
I can't wait to see the reaction of the homos when science discovers the
'gay gene' and can identify it in a screening test. The ranks of the
pro-life movement will swell as parents after parents reject gay pre-born
babies. Suddenly, life will become sacred while the liberal egalitarians
cryout for more blood in the name of 'choice'.
4.3 - the rankest Amateur here can do better than that on the spur of the
moment. How the hell did you get in this competition?!
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| User: "Josh Miles" |
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30 Jun 2006 06:16:22 AM |
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wrote:
I can't wait to see the reaction of the homos when science discovers the
'gay gene' and can identify it in a screening test.
Sexual orientation is more complex than that. There isn't a *single*
gene that determines that.
The ranks of the pro-life movement will swell as parents after parents reject gay pre-born
babies.
The only people who have a problem with homosexuality are people like
*you.* Don't assume that everyone is as hateful and ignorant as you.
Oh, and there's no such thing as "pre-born babies." The term is
semantically ridiculous, not to mention completely illogical.
Suddenly, life will become sacred while the liberal egalitarians
cryout for more blood in the name of 'choice'.
What do you have against women's rights?
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| User: "JPG" |
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30 Jun 2006 01:56:45 AM |
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wrote:
I can't wait to see the reaction of the homos when science discovers the
'gay gene' and can identify it in a screening test. The ranks of the
pro-life movement will swell as parents after parents reject gay pre-born
babies. Suddenly, life will become sacred while the liberal egalitarians
cryout for more blood in the name of 'choice'.
If there was a test to check for the bigotry gene, and the propensity
to believe that myths are true gene, and a test to check for
personality defects, you and your ilk would have been aborted long ago.
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| User: "Pastor Kutchie" |
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29 Jun 2006 11:29:53 PM |
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wrote:
I can't wait to see the reaction of the homos when science discovers the
'gay gene' and can identify it in a screening test. The ranks of the
pro-life movement will swell as parents after parents reject gay pre-born
babies. Suddenly, life will become sacred while the liberal egalitarians
cryout for more blood in the name of 'choice'.
Why do tou enjoy being ignorant? And why do you seek to make a virtue
of it?
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| User: "LC" |
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30 Jun 2006 08:26:57 AM |
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Closet case <youngopinions@aol.com> repeated a troll when he wrote in
message news:1IedncHvXL7wOznZnZ2dnUVZ_rOdnZ2d@giganews.com...
I can't wait to see the reaction of the homos when science discovers the
'gay gene' and can identify it in a screening test.
*yawn*
Your trolls are becoming very redundant, IBen.
Running out of ideas?
"The ability to determine one's sexual orientation, plus abortion-on-demand
laws, will spell the end of gays in America. We in the pro-life movement
will fight so that this never happens."
From: "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
Message-ID: <cZCdnfOluqZakwDenZ2dnUVZ_t6dnZ2d@giganews.com>
Oh, and about that gay obsession of yours:
"You seem to spend alot of time,thought,and energy thinking about and
writing about homosexuals. I wonder..........?????"
From: (Jon Young)
Message-ID:
LC~ Bets "J" is just a self-loathing type.
"does it not seem strange that so many so-called christians, jews, and
muslims, seem to spend an inordinate amount of time and energy
thinking about gay people and the things that they do in their
bedrooms? isn't it also strange that the ones most vocal in their
opposition to a gay life-style almost always inevitably turn out to be
closet cases themselves. a true person of God should be spending more
time leading a good, decent life instead of thinking[ or perhaps
fantasizing ] about what two gay men are doing in their bedrooms.
you'll notice they rarely have a problem with lesbians."
From: (Jon Young)
Message-ID: <567f3dc3.0310130712.bf31ff9@posting.google.com>
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30 Jun 2006 09:33:49 AM |
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Critiquing Coulter
Sightings 6/30/06
Editor's Note:
Today's issue of Sightings contains two articles, by Jerome Eric Copulsky
and by Robert S. McElvaine,treating Ann Coulter's best-selling book
Godless: The Church of Liberalism. As always, the opinions expressed in
these articles are not necessarily those of the Martin Marty Center, the
Divinity School, or the University of Chicago.
The Coulter Code
-- Jerome Eric Copulsky
Ann Coulter has been much in the news lately. With her recent best-selling
tome, Godless: The Church of Liberalism, it seems that the notorious
bomb-throwing cover girl for conservatism has turned Grand Inquisitor. The
subject matter of her book -- the idea that liberalism is a religion --
merits a sighting here, and not only because it demonstrates the
increasingly "religiosecular" ambivalence of our world that Martin E.
Marty wrote of two weeks ago ("Religiosecular Meditations," June 19).
"Liberalism," Coulter informs us, is a "church," complete with its own
creation myth (Darwinism), priests (public school teachers), doctrines
(infallibility of victims), sacraments (abortion), and so forth. Coulter's
liberals subscribe to a pantheistic doctrine, renouncing the biblical
distinction between human beings (made in the image of God) and the rest
of creation, thus rendering biblical morality impossible -- which, she
claims, is the liberals' true goal. Tossing aside any pretense to
Christian charity, Coulter darkly warns that liberals (or Democrats, which
are, for Coulter, one and the same) are Pagans (of the Druid
denomination), science-hating Darwinists, and tree-hugging supporters of
PETA, intent on killing their babies and their grandparents. Some of her
invective, like proclaiming that Democrats make up "the opposition party
to God," might make even a Carl Schmitt blush!
A stalwart defender of what she takes to be the Christian faith, Coulter
emphatically denies the possibility of any liberal rapprochement with
Christianity. Moreover, liberals are theo-political heretics, enemies of
the state, "deny[ing] the biblical idea of dominion and progress, the most
ringing affirmation of which is the United States of America." (Such
statements, of course, raise serious questions concerning Coulter's
understanding of orthodox Christian doctrine.) In Coulter's world, it is
really the liberal pagans who cause all the trouble ("somehow it's always
the godless doing the genocides"), while devout Christians are peaceful,
moral, law-abiding folks. (Coulter conveniently omits the gloomy fact that
Christians have managed to slaughter many other Christians and
non-Christians well into modern times. Her memory returns, however, to
attack "crazy Muslims.")
Coulter's inflammatory rhetoric, proclivity for constructing straw men,
and reliance on specious and ad hominem argumentation obscures the fact
that her convictions aren't new. In a sense, Coulter is merely reiterating
the perennial quarrel between Reason and Revelation, Athens and Jerusalem,
Enlightenment and faith -- but here in the age of mass media, and for big
bucks. Given that the argument of the book is so derivative and so
littered with malicious half-truths and insipid humor, the book's
popularity might seem perplexing.
But then I considered the book's cover. The dust jacket of Godless
features Coulter in a black dress with a plummeting neckline, sporting an
apparently diamond-encrusted cross that dangles above the shadowy
suggestion of cleavage. (One wonders whether the diamonds represent the
indestructibility or the riches of her Church.) Her arm presses upon the
final letters of the book's title, "less," as through she might crush
them, a one-woman suppressor of the atheistic horde. She gazes at the
viewer, wearing a sly half-smile reminiscent of Leonardo da Vinci's Mona
Lisa -- an impression further enhanced by the resemblance in pose and
garb.
Ah-ha! I thought. This is no mere accident. Perhaps her book conceals a
secret teaching, one more shocking than those encountered in a Dan Brown
novel, and so inimical to the faithful that it could only be conveyed in
winks and nods. Given the American obsession with codes and hidden
meanings, I speculated that when Coulter writes of what "all liberals
secretly believe," she just may well be hinting to the discerning reader
that there is more to her text than what's on the surface.
As one who has studied with people who studied under Leo Strauss, and
attuned to the art of esoteric writing, I searched. And I searched. And
then I noticed, buried in a footnote, a "clue" to the entire work:
"Christians," Coulter writes, "include everyone who subscribes to the
Bible of the God of Abraham, including Jews and others." How very gracious
of her! But there is a catch: These "Christians" may not include members
of the Episcopalian Church -- which, she writes a few pages later, "is
barely even a church." HmmS(
Why does she go after the Episcopalian Church (aside, perhaps, from the
fact that arch-liberal Howard Dean used to be a member)? Here's one
conjecture arising from my esoteric reading. The Episcopalian Church
developed from the Church of England -- an established Church, a state
religion. Is Coulter, then, launching a cryptic attack on the unity of
church and state? Given this, as well as her dismissal of the substance of
theological differences (effacing, for instance, distinctions between
Christians and Jews), and her claim that true Christians are peaceful and
patriotic, one might think she is implicitly invoking the ideas propounded
by the theological-political treatises of the seventeenth century, ideas
like toleration and separation of religious and political authority -- you
know, Liberal ideas.
This esoteric reading of Godless is, of course, preposterous, but no more
so, in my opinion, than the book's actual argumentation -- and that's the
point. I'm afraid that the big secret revealed in Godless is that when it
comes to the depths and complexities of actual religion, Ann Coulter
doesn't know what she's talking about.
Jerome Eric Copulsky is Assistant Professor and Director of Judaic Studies
at Virginia Tech.
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Jesusless: The Church of Conservatism
-- Robert S. McElvaine
In Godless, her latest and most ill-tempered book-length rant, Ann Coulter
asserts that liberalism is a "godless" religion. In fact, however, the
most fundamental problem in Christianity in America and the world today is
that the "fundamentalist" religion that most loudly proclaims itself to be
"Christian" is Jesusless.
Coulter demonstrates how Jesusless she and her cohort who have co-opted
the name of Christianity are when she identifies "Americans' Christian
destiny" as "jet skis, steak on the electric grill, hot showers, and night
skiing." For some reason, she fails to cite her source in the Gospels for
her definition of Christian destiny, which amounts to: Jesus died for our
jet skis.
Read the Gospels from beginning to end and nowhere will you find Jesus
suggesting anything like what Coulter sees as the destiny of Christians.
Quite the contrary. Indeed, there is no source in anything Jesus said for
most of what the best-known "Christians" preach in his name these days.
While Coulter fumes that "liberalism is the opposition party to God," the
clear truth is that what passes for "Christianity" today is the opposition
party to Jesus. She attacks "the liberal hostility to God-based religions"
while exposing her own hostility to Jesus-based religion.
As has been widely reported, Coulter offers "Christian" sentiments about
widows of 9/11 victims who are not on her side politically: "These broads
are millionaires, lionized on TV and in articles about them, reveling in
their status as celebrities and stalked by grief-arazzis," the millionaire
TV celebrity and right-wing lioness Coulter hisses. "I've never seen
people enjoying their husbands' deaths so much." If Jesus had remained in
his grave, surely he would be spinning in it to hear such evil venom being
spit out in his name.
"Christians" of the sort who buy Coulter's books call themselves
"fundamentalists," but their emphasis is entirely upon the word's first
syllable; they're all about having fun. But when it comes to the
fundamental teachings of Jesus, they take a pass. Turn the other cheek?
Self-sacrifice? Help the poor? Nonviolence? That stuff's too hard. They
replace the Gospel accounts of what Jesus said with the Gospel according
to John and Paul (Lennon and McCartney, that is): "Give me money / That's
what I want."
The Church of Coulter -- and that of the loudest "Christians" today --
should be called what it plainly is: Jesusless: The Church of Mammon.
Coulter makes millions by calling others treasonous and Godless and
saying, "We should invade [Muslim] countries, kill their leaders and
convert them to Christianity." Conversion should start at home, and
Coulter first needs to convert herself from Mammonism to Christianity.
Like many others in the increasingly dominant and totally misnamed
"Christian Right," Coulter has a persecution complex. Upon the publication
of Godless, she used her syndicated column to write a self-review of her
book, saying it would be ignored: "If you find Godless without asking for
assistance, it's considered a minor miracle." This from a woman whose new
Jesusless book was at that very moment rising to Number 1 on the New York
Times Best Seller list. (That such a patently anti-Jesus book could become
the best-selling book in America tells us just how far removed from being
followers of Christ most of today's self-proclaimed Christians are.) She's
lamenting all the way to the bank, her house of worship.
In my opinion, those who complain about a "War on Christianity" are right.
The generals conducting that war include, in addition to
Kill-a-Muslim-for-Christ Coulter, Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, Ted
Haggard, James Dobson, and the whole Unheavenly Host of televangelists and
megachurch moneychangers and wolves in sheep's clothing who have
expropriated the moral assets of Jesus and turned them to their own
purposes. They never met a dollar they didn't like. They prefer profits to
prophecy and pretend that Jesus did, too. They favor the rich over the
poor and invert Jesus to contend that he did, too. They favor war over
peace and lie by saying that Jesus did, too.
Coulter and millions of her fellow adherents to ChristianityLite -- a
"religion" that is the equivalent of a "Lose weight without diet or
exercise" scam ("Easy Jesus! Be saved without sacrifice or good works!")
-- have aborted Jesus and rewritten his teachings to suit their own
selfish desires. Their revision of the Beatitudes -- what we might call
the Be-Ann-itudes -- goes something like this:
Blessed are the haughty in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Blessed are those who exult over others, for they shall be further
rewarded. Blessed are the arrogant, for they shall inherit the earth.
Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for domination, for they shall be
satisfied. Blessed are those who show no mercy, for they shall obtain the
wealth of others. Blessed are the hard in heart, for they shall see God.
Blessed are the war-makers, for they shall be called sons of God.
Blessed are those who persecute for their own sake, for theirs is the
kingdom of heaven. Blessed are you when you revile others and persecute
others and utter all sorts of evil against them falsely on my account.
Onward Jesusless "Christian" soldiers, marching others into war.
Robert S. McElvaine teaches history at Millsaps College and is the author
of Eve's Seed (McGraw-Hill). He is currently completing a book manuscript
entitled ChristianityLite: Getting to Heaven without the Hassle.
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of Latin American Immigrants in Chicago: Preliminary Findings from Field
Research" by Andrea Althoff. To read this article, please visit:
http://marty-center.uchicago.edu/webforum/index.shtml,
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29 Jun 2006 11:26:20 PM |
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In News 1IedncHvXL7wOznZnZ2dnUVZ_rOdnZ2d@giganews.com,,
youngopinions@aol.com at youngopinions@aol.com, typed this:
I can't wait to see the reaction of the homos when science discovers
the 'gay gene' and can identify it in a screening test. The ranks of
the pro-life movement will swell as parents after parents reject gay
pre-born babies. Suddenly, life will become sacred while the liberal
egalitarians cryout for more blood in the name of 'choice'.
LOL! I'll bet you ruined a few sets of bedsheets thinking up that crap, eh
young?
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Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. – Thomas Jefferson
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30 Jun 2006 05:22:36 AM |
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In a message sent 'round the world, poured fuel on
the fire with the following:
I can't wait to see the reaction of the homos when science discovers the
'gay gene' and can identify it in a screening test.
You no doubt will be interested to know that a "religion gene" has been
discovered.
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Regards,
Josef
No country or people who are slaves to dogma and dogmatic mentality
can progress.
-- Jawaharlal Nehru
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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30 Jun 2006 10:16:00 PM |
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Previously, on alt.atheism, youngopinions in episode
<1IedncHvXL7wOznZnZ2dnUVZ_rOdnZ2d@giganews.com>...
I can't wait to see the reaction of the homos when science discovers the
'gay gene' and can identify it in a screening test.
By the time we understand human behavior and development to that extent,
we'll be able to cure religion.
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Mark K. Bilbo
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On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 22:16:00 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster>
wrote:
Previously, on alt.atheism, youngopinions in episode
<1IedncHvXL7wOznZnZ2dnUVZ_rOdnZ2d@giganews.com>...
I can't wait to see the reaction of the homos when science discovers the
'gay gene' and can identify it in a screening test.
By the time we understand human behavior and development to that extent,
we'll be able to cure religion.
I wonder though: Just what the reaction of the pro-life/anti-choice, *****
movement, would be, if it was shown, beyond any possible doubt, that
homosexuality, was purely genetic.
Would they simply deny the evidence, and continue to insist that it was
"curable".
Or would they deem any "unborn baby", that had the gene, a "non human"
abomination, and thus abortable?
One thing I am damn sure of, is that there would be a lot of gene testing labs,
getting rich, providing young, single, xtian girls, with evidence that their
"foetus" was gay, and could thus be aborted.
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| User: "Jeff North" |
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| Title: Re: British Experts Make New Embryo Screening Test, Could Lead to Abortions |
03 Jul 2006 08:47:04 PM |
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On Mon, 03 Jul 2006 19:17:11 GMT, in alt.politics.homosexuality Dubh
Ghall <puck@pooks.hill.fey>
<kkqia2dd7iekmk3cofc7j1pbql53mi97fm@4ax.com> wrote:
| On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 22:16:00 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster>
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| >Previously, on alt.atheism, youngopinions in episode
| ><1IedncHvXL7wOznZnZ2dnUVZ_rOdnZ2d@giganews.com>...
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| >> I can't wait to see the reaction of the homos when science discovers the
| >> 'gay gene' and can identify it in a screening test.
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| >By the time we understand human behavior and development to that extent,
| >we'll be able to cure religion.
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| I wonder though: Just what the reaction of the pro-life/anti-choice, *****
| movement, would be, if it was shown, beyond any possible doubt, that
| homosexuality, was purely genetic.
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| Would they simply deny the evidence, and continue to insist that it was
| "curable".
Yep :-)
| Or would they deem any "unborn baby", that had the gene, a "non human"
| abomination, and thus abortable?
Yep :-)
| One thing I am damn sure of, is that there would be a lot of gene testing labs,
| getting rich, providing young, single, xtian girls, with evidence that their
| "foetus" was gay, and could thus be aborted.
Now there's an untapped market ripe for exploiting :-)
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