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British Muslims want Islamic Law in the UK |
http://www.guardian.co.uk/islam/story/0,15568,1362591,00.html
British Muslims want Islamic law and prayers at work
Alan Travis and Madeleine Bunting
Tuesday November 30, 2004
The Guardian
Muslims in Britain want greater recognition of their faith with the
introduction of Islamic law for civil cases and time off for prayers
during the working day, but are equally committed to greater
participation in British life.
A special Guardian/ICM poll based on a survey of 500 British Muslims
found that a clear majority want Islamic law introduced into this
country in civil cases relating to their own community. Some 61%
wanted Islamic courts - operating on sharia principles - "so long as
the penalties did not contravene British law".
Many civil cases in this country deal with family disputes such as
divorce, custody and inheritance.
The poll also found a high level of religious observance with just
over half saying they pray five times a day, every day - although
women are shown to be more devout than men. The poll reveals that 88%
want to see schools and workplaces in Britain accommodating Muslim
prayer times as part of their normal working day.
Alongside these signs of a desire for more recognition of their
religion, however, the poll suggests that the Muslim community is
perhaps more integrated than many might imagine, with 62% saying they
number "a lot or quite a few" non-Muslim people among their closest
friends and 35% saying they would consider marrying someone who was
not a Muslim.
There is also a strong appetite within the Muslim community to become
a closer part of British life, with 40% saying they need to do more to
integrate into mainstream British culture.
The ICM poll was commissioned as part of a groundbreaking Guardian
exercise to gauge the mood of Britain's younger Muslim generation. In
addition to the poll, 103 young Muslims were brought together to
discuss the most important issues facing their future, from identity
and integration to the war on terror.
The Guardian/ICM poll confirms that political support for Labour has
halved since the 2001 general election and the Liberal Democrats have
emerged as the leading political party within the Muslim community.
The role of Britain in the Iraq war and Tony Blair's strong support
for the war on terror which is widely seen by the Muslim community to
be an attack on Islam, has undoubtedly played a part in eroding
Labour's support among British Muslims. In the 2001 general election
it is believed that 75% of those who voted backed Labour.
The voting intention figures in this poll show that support in the
Muslim community for the government is slipping away fast. In March,
ICM recorded Labour support at 38% and it has now fallen a further six
points to 32% of Muslim voters.
This is nine points behind the Liberal Democrats who now enjoy the
support of 41% of Muslim voters. Conservative support has also fallen
in the last six months from 25% to 16%.
Other parties enjoy the support of 10% of British Muslim voters with
4% going to the Greens and 4% to George Galloway's Respect party.
The problem for the Liberal Democrats is that the poll shows turnout
among the Muslim community is likely to be far lower than the general
electorate with only 47% saying they "always or nearly always vote"
compared with 68% of all voters.
ICM interviewed a random sample of 500 Muslim people by telephone
between November 15-21 2004. The data has not been weighted because
there is no authoritative source of demographic information on the
Muslim population. ICM abides by the rules of the British Polling
Council.
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04 Jan 2005 09:05:10 AM |
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Bunn E. Rabbit <BunnERabbit@verizon.hutch.net> wrote in message
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/islam/story/0,15568,1362591,00.html
British Muslims want Islamic law and prayers at work
Give them free passage to a Islamic country then, with an agreement that
will never return. I'm sure that there must be one or two countries that
have Islamic laws.
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| User: "sanguinevikings" |
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04 Jan 2005 07:30:06 AM |
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Bunn E. Rabbit wrote:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/islam/story/0,15568,1362591,00.html
British Muslims want Islamic law and prayers at work
Alan Travis and Madeleine Bunting
Tuesday November 30, 2004
The Guardian
Muslims in Britain want greater recognition of their faith with the
introduction of Islamic law for civil cases and time off for prayers
during the working day, but are equally committed to greater
participation in British life.
A special Guardian/ICM poll based on a survey of 500 British Muslims
found that a clear majority want Islamic law introduced into this
country in civil cases relating to their own community. Some 61%
wanted Islamic courts - operating on sharia principles - "so long as
the penalties did not contravene British law".
Many civil cases in this country deal with family disputes such as
divorce, custody and inheritance.
The poll also found a high level of religious observance with just
over half saying they pray five times a day, every day - although
women are shown to be more devout than men. The poll reveals that 88%
want to see schools and workplaces in Britain accommodating Muslim
prayer times as part of their normal working day.
Alongside these signs of a desire for more recognition of their
religion, however, the poll suggests that the Muslim community is
perhaps more integrated than many might imagine, with 62% saying they
number "a lot or quite a few" non-Muslim people among their closest
friends and 35% saying they would consider marrying someone who was
not a Muslim.
There is also a strong appetite within the Muslim community to become
a closer part of British life, with 40% saying they need to do more to
integrate into mainstream British culture.
The ICM poll was commissioned as part of a groundbreaking Guardian
exercise to gauge the mood of Britain's younger Muslim generation. In
addition to the poll, 103 young Muslims were brought together to
discuss the most important issues facing their future, from identity
and integration to the war on terror.
The Guardian/ICM poll confirms that political support for Labour has
halved since the 2001 general election and the Liberal Democrats have
emerged as the leading political party within the Muslim community.
The role of Britain in the Iraq war and Tony Blair's strong support
for the war on terror which is widely seen by the Muslim community to
be an attack on Islam, has undoubtedly played a part in eroding
Labour's support among British Muslims. In the 2001 general election
it is believed that 75% of those who voted backed Labour.
The voting intention figures in this poll show that support in the
Muslim community for the government is slipping away fast. In March,
ICM recorded Labour support at 38% and it has now fallen a further six
points to 32% of Muslim voters.
This is nine points behind the Liberal Democrats who now enjoy the
support of 41% of Muslim voters. Conservative support has also fallen
in the last six months from 25% to 16%.
Other parties enjoy the support of 10% of British Muslim voters with
4% going to the Greens and 4% to George Galloway's Respect party.
The problem for the Liberal Democrats is that the poll shows turnout
among the Muslim community is likely to be far lower than the general
electorate with only 47% saying they "always or nearly always vote"
compared with 68% of all voters.
I bet it's higher than this in Bethnal Green & Bow.
ICM interviewed a random sample of 500 Muslim people by telephone
between November 15-21 2004. The data has not been weighted because
there is no authoritative source of demographic information on the
Muslim population. ICM abides by the rules of the British Polling
Council.
This all seems like the early stages of assimilation. It compares with
the Jewish population, which exploded in the UK 140 years ago. They have
their own legislature dealing with religious issues (with amusing side
effects, such as the eruv in North London) and their own schools. They
still have their ghettoes e.g. Stamford Hill, Golders Green, but a large
majority are dispersed due to social mobility - having said which,
Golders Green is an upwardly mobile ghetto.
Tony Blur, through his stance on Iraq, has delivered many thousands of
British Muslime into the hands of the Lib Dems, but there are still some
decent Labour MPs who won't lose ground.
My prediction for Bethnal Green and Bow is that the LibDems won't even
stand but will urge tactical voting. Even if they do stand their
supporters will probably vote tactically. Galloway will be the sole
beneficiary of this, which will make it a very close result. Watch out
for posturing by the incumbent Blairite hack.
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| User: "Bush is the AntiChrist!! " |
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04 Jan 2005 06:58:20 AM |
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Bunn E. Rabbit wrote:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/islam/story/0,15568,1362591,00.html
British Muslims want Islamic law and prayers at work
Alan Travis and Madeleine Bunting
Tuesday November 30, 2004
The Guardian
Muslims in Britain want greater recognition of their faith with the
introduction of Islamic law for civil cases and time off for prayers
during the working day, but are equally committed to greater
participation in British life.
A special Guardian/ICM poll based on a survey of 500 British Muslims
found that a clear majority want Islamic law introduced into this
country in civil cases relating to their own community. Some 61%
wanted Islamic courts - operating on sharia principles - "so long as
the penalties did not contravene British law".
Many civil cases in this country deal with family disputes such as
divorce, custody and inheritance.
The poll also found a high level of religious observance with just
over half saying they pray five times a day, every day - although
women are shown to be more devout than men. The poll reveals that 88%
want to see schools and workplaces in Britain accommodating Muslim
prayer times as part of their normal working day.
Alongside these signs of a desire for more recognition of their
religion, however, the poll suggests that the Muslim community is
perhaps more integrated than many might imagine, with 62% saying they
number "a lot or quite a few" non-Muslim people among their closest
friends and 35% saying they would consider marrying someone who was
not a Muslim.
There is also a strong appetite within the Muslim community to become
a closer part of British life, with 40% saying they need to do more to
integrate into mainstream British culture.
The ICM poll was commissioned as part of a groundbreaking Guardian
exercise to gauge the mood of Britain's younger Muslim generation. In
addition to the poll, 103 young Muslims were brought together to
discuss the most important issues facing their future, from identity
and integration to the war on terror.
The Guardian/ICM poll confirms that political support for Labour has
halved since the 2001 general election and the Liberal Democrats have
emerged as the leading political party within the Muslim community.
The role of Britain in the Iraq war and Tony Blair's strong support
for the war on terror which is widely seen by the Muslim community to
be an attack on Islam, has undoubtedly played a part in eroding
Labour's support among British Muslims. In the 2001 general election
it is believed that 75% of those who voted backed Labour.
The voting intention figures in this poll show that support in the
Muslim community for the government is slipping away fast. In March,
ICM recorded Labour support at 38% and it has now fallen a further six
points to 32% of Muslim voters.
This is nine points behind the Liberal Democrats who now enjoy the
support of 41% of Muslim voters. Conservative support has also fallen
in the last six months from 25% to 16%.
Other parties enjoy the support of 10% of British Muslim voters with
4% going to the Greens and 4% to George Galloway's Respect party.
The problem for the Liberal Democrats is that the poll shows turnout
among the Muslim community is likely to be far lower than the general
electorate with only 47% saying they "always or nearly always vote"
compared with 68% of all voters.
ICM interviewed a random sample of 500 Muslim people by telephone
between November 15-21 2004. The data has not been weighted because
there is no authoritative source of demographic information on the
Muslim population. ICM abides by the rules of the British Polling
Council.
Sounds reasonable.
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04 Jan 2005 09:38:33 AM |
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"Bush is the AntiChrist!! " <tle_mgr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Bunn E. Rabbit wrote:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/islam/story/0,15568,1362591,00.html
British Muslims want Islamic law and prayers at work
Alan Travis and Madeleine Bunting
Tuesday November 30, 2004
The Guardian
Muslims in Britain want greater recognition of their faith with the
introduction of Islamic law for civil cases and time off for prayers
during the working day, but are equally committed to greater
participation in British life.
A special Guardian/ICM poll based on a survey of 500 British Muslims
found that a clear majority want Islamic law introduced into this
country in civil cases relating to their own community. Some 61%
wanted Islamic courts - operating on sharia principles - "so long as
the penalties did not contravene British law".
Many civil cases in this country deal with family disputes such as
divorce, custody and inheritance.
The poll also found a high level of religious observance with just
over half saying they pray five times a day, every day - although
women are shown to be more devout than men. The poll reveals that 88%
want to see schools and workplaces in Britain accommodating Muslim
prayer times as part of their normal working day.
Alongside these signs of a desire for more recognition of their
religion, however, the poll suggests that the Muslim community is
perhaps more integrated than many might imagine, with 62% saying they
number "a lot or quite a few" non-Muslim people among their closest
friends and 35% saying they would consider marrying someone who was
not a Muslim.
There is also a strong appetite within the Muslim community to become
a closer part of British life, with 40% saying they need to do more to
integrate into mainstream British culture.
The ICM poll was commissioned as part of a groundbreaking Guardian
exercise to gauge the mood of Britain's younger Muslim generation. In
addition to the poll, 103 young Muslims were brought together to
discuss the most important issues facing their future, from identity
and integration to the war on terror.
The Guardian/ICM poll confirms that political support for Labour has
halved since the 2001 general election and the Liberal Democrats have
emerged as the leading political party within the Muslim community.
The role of Britain in the Iraq war and Tony Blair's strong support
for the war on terror which is widely seen by the Muslim community to
be an attack on Islam, has undoubtedly played a part in eroding
Labour's support among British Muslims. In the 2001 general election
it is believed that 75% of those who voted backed Labour.
The voting intention figures in this poll show that support in the
Muslim community for the government is slipping away fast. In March,
ICM recorded Labour support at 38% and it has now fallen a further six
points to 32% of Muslim voters.
This is nine points behind the Liberal Democrats who now enjoy the
support of 41% of Muslim voters. Conservative support has also fallen
in the last six months from 25% to 16%.
Other parties enjoy the support of 10% of British Muslim voters with
4% going to the Greens and 4% to George Galloway's Respect party.
The problem for the Liberal Democrats is that the poll shows turnout
among the Muslim community is likely to be far lower than the general
electorate with only 47% saying they "always or nearly always vote"
compared with 68% of all voters.
ICM interviewed a random sample of 500 Muslim people by telephone
between November 15-21 2004. The data has not been weighted because
there is no authoritative source of demographic information on the
Muslim population. ICM abides by the rules of the British Polling
Council.
Sounds reasonable.
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05 Jan 2005 05:12:24 PM |
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On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 10:38:33 -0500, "grover syck" <groversyck@fuse.net>
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"Bush is the AntiChrist!! " <tle_mgr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:NvydndpPFvr2D0fcRVn-rA@comcast.com...
Bunn E. Rabbit wrote:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/islam/story/0,15568,1362591,00.html
British Muslims want Islamic law and prayers at work
Alan Travis and Madeleine Bunting
Tuesday November 30, 2004
The Guardian
Muslims in Britain want greater recognition of their faith with the
introduction of Islamic law for civil cases and time off for prayers
during the working day, but are equally committed to greater
participation in British life.
A special Guardian/ICM poll based on a survey of 500 British Muslims
found that a clear majority want Islamic law introduced into this
country in civil cases relating to their own community. Some 61%
wanted Islamic courts - operating on sharia principles - "so long as
the penalties did not contravene British law".
Many civil cases in this country deal with family disputes such as
divorce, custody and inheritance.
The poll also found a high level of religious observance with just
over half saying they pray five times a day, every day - although
women are shown to be more devout than men. The poll reveals that 88%
want to see schools and workplaces in Britain accommodating Muslim
prayer times as part of their normal working day.
Alongside these signs of a desire for more recognition of their
religion, however, the poll suggests that the Muslim community is
perhaps more integrated than many might imagine, with 62% saying they
number "a lot or quite a few" non-Muslim people among their closest
friends and 35% saying they would consider marrying someone who was
not a Muslim.
There is also a strong appetite within the Muslim community to become
a closer part of British life, with 40% saying they need to do more to
integrate into mainstream British culture.
The ICM poll was commissioned as part of a groundbreaking Guardian
exercise to gauge the mood of Britain's younger Muslim generation. In
addition to the poll, 103 young Muslims were brought together to
discuss the most important issues facing their future, from identity
and integration to the war on terror.
The Guardian/ICM poll confirms that political support for Labour has
halved since the 2001 general election and the Liberal Democrats have
emerged as the leading political party within the Muslim community.
The role of Britain in the Iraq war and Tony Blair's strong support
for the war on terror which is widely seen by the Muslim community to
be an attack on Islam, has undoubtedly played a part in eroding
Labour's support among British Muslims. In the 2001 general election
it is believed that 75% of those who voted backed Labour.
The voting intention figures in this poll show that support in the
Muslim community for the government is slipping away fast. In March,
ICM recorded Labour support at 38% and it has now fallen a further six
points to 32% of Muslim voters.
This is nine points behind the Liberal Democrats who now enjoy the
support of 41% of Muslim voters. Conservative support has also fallen
in the last six months from 25% to 16%.
Other parties enjoy the support of 10% of British Muslim voters with
4% going to the Greens and 4% to George Galloway's Respect party.
The problem for the Liberal Democrats is that the poll shows turnout
among the Muslim community is likely to be far lower than the general
electorate with only 47% saying they "always or nearly always vote"
compared with 68% of all voters.
ICM interviewed a random sample of 500 Muslim people by telephone
between November 15-21 2004. The data has not been weighted because
there is no authoritative source of demographic information on the
Muslim population. ICM abides by the rules of the British Polling
Council.
Sounds reasonable.
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On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 17:12:24 -0600, The Traveler<truth@never.invalid>
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Muslims in Britain want greater recognition of their faith with the
introduction of Islamic law for civil cases and time off for prayers
during the working day, but are equally committed to greater
participation in British life.
I was fasicnated when I read that Reagan had armed and trained
hundreds of thousands of Islamic terrorist to defeat the Russians.
What are these highly trained and armed men doing now that Russia is
no longer a threat?
Probably going to take over Britian and a lot of other countries.
Thank you naive followers of Jesus of Nazareth.
WWJD
Was Jesus a moron or an idiot, I forget.
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On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 08:08:27 GMT, Bunn E. Rabbit <BunnERabbit@verizon.hutch.net>
wrote:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/islam/story/0,15568,1362591,00.html
British Muslims want Islamic law and prayers at work
Rather sad that a particular group wants to remain forever un integrated into
mainstream society.
It's bad enough having faith schools - look what that did for Northern Ireland,
but to have your own civil laws. I presume that this means Muslim men will just
have to say "I divorce thee" three times if they want to trade in the wife for a
newer model.
Muslims already have their own schools and banks, how long before shari'a
criminal law?
JPG
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| User: "kathryn" |
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04 Jan 2005 06:27:58 PM |
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"JPG" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 08:08:27 GMT, Bunn E. Rabbit
<BunnERabbit@verizon.hutch.net>
wrote:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/islam/story/0,15568,1362591,00.html
British Muslims want Islamic law and prayers at work
Rather sad that a particular group wants to remain forever un integrated
into
mainstream society.
It's bad enough having faith schools - look what that did for Northern
Ireland,
but to have your own civil laws.
They aren't faith schools in NI, with the exception of the Free P primary
schools.
What you tend to find is that anyone can go to any school but unless it says
specifically they're intergrated they don't
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| User: "Energumen" |
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05 Jan 2005 10:03:48 AM |
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"kathryn" <bob@bobbybobbobthebobster.com> wrote in message
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"JPG" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:626lt0tt1rluq4rvo2bp6ts8h4bgu8rc3n@4ax.com...
On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 08:08:27 GMT, Bunn E. Rabbit
<BunnERabbit@verizon.hutch.net>
wrote:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/islam/story/0,15568,1362591,00.html
British Muslims want Islamic law and prayers at work
Rather sad that a particular group wants to remain forever un integrated
into
mainstream society.
It's bad enough having faith schools - look what that did for Northern
Ireland,
but to have your own civil laws.
They aren't faith schools in NI, with the exception of the Free P primary
schools.
What you tend to find is that anyone can go to any school but unless it
says specifically they're intergrated they don't
There *are* faith schools in Northern Ireland, Catholic maintained schools.
Most Catholics go to Catholic maintained schools. There are no Protestant
faith schools in Northern Ireland (apart from, as you say, Free P primary
and arguably 2 or 3 others, not a significant number) only state schools.
However since the population of NI is almost entirely one or the other the
state schools are de facto Protestant schools, in the sense that they are
composed overwhelmingly of Protestants, but they are not "religious schools"
in any formal sense. There are also deliberately "integrated" schools.
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05 Jan 2005 11:19:55 AM |
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"Energumen" <ener_gumen@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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"kathryn" <bob@bobbybobbobthebobster.com> wrote in message
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"JPG" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:626lt0tt1rluq4rvo2bp6ts8h4bgu8rc3n@4ax.com...
On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 08:08:27 GMT, Bunn E. Rabbit
<BunnERabbit@verizon.hutch.net>
wrote:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/islam/story/0,15568,1362591,00.html
British Muslims want Islamic law and prayers at work
Rather sad that a particular group wants to remain forever un integrated
into
mainstream society.
It's bad enough having faith schools - look what that did for Northern
Ireland,
but to have your own civil laws.
They aren't faith schools in NI, with the exception of the Free P primary
schools.
What you tend to find is that anyone can go to any school but unless it
says specifically they're intergrated they don't
There *are* faith schools in Northern Ireland, Catholic maintained
schools.
Most Catholics go to Catholic maintained schools. There are no Protestant
faith schools in Northern Ireland (apart from, as you say, Free P primary
and arguably 2 or 3 others, not a significant number) only state schools.
However since the population of NI is almost entirely one or the other the
state schools are de facto Protestant schools, in the sense that they are
composed overwhelmingly of Protestants, but they are not "religious
schools"
in any formal sense. There are also deliberately "integrated" schools.
You won't be stopped from going to a particular school because you are a
protestant or a catholic. By the same definition the rest of the UK has
faith schools, Australia has faith schools but AFAIK (especially legally)
you cannot stop someone going to a school based on their families faith
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| User: "Energumen" |
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| Title: Re: British Muslims want Islamic Law in the UK |
05 Jan 2005 10:15:17 AM |
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"Energumen" <ener_gumen@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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"kathryn" <bob@bobbybobbobthebobster.com> wrote in message
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"JPG" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:626lt0tt1rluq4rvo2bp6ts8h4bgu8rc3n@4ax.com...
On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 08:08:27 GMT, Bunn E. Rabbit
<BunnERabbit@verizon.hutch.net>
wrote:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/islam/story/0,15568,1362591,00.html
British Muslims want Islamic law and prayers at work
Rather sad that a particular group wants to remain forever un integrated
into
mainstream society.
It's bad enough having faith schools - look what that did for Northern
Ireland,
but to have your own civil laws.
They aren't faith schools in NI, with the exception of the Free P primary
schools.
What you tend to find is that anyone can go to any school but unless it
says specifically they're intergrated they don't
There *are* faith schools in Northern Ireland, Catholic maintained
schools.
Most Catholics go to Catholic maintained schools. There are no Protestant
faith schools in Northern Ireland (apart from, as you say, Free P primary
and arguably 2 or 3 others, not a significant number) only state schools.
However since the population of NI is almost entirely one or the other the
state schools are de facto Protestant schools, in the sense that they are
composed overwhelmingly of Protestants, but they are not "religious
schools"
in any formal sense. There are also deliberately "integrated" schools.
http://cain.ulst.ac.uk/ni/educ.htm
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06 Jan 2005 02:53:28 AM |
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Its easy to fix the problem. Send'em all back where they came from.
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| User: "mariposas morgan mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges" |
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06 Jan 2005 03:53:13 AM |
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In article <1105001608.284571.322670@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
"Crazyalec" <oleka2000@yahoo.com> wrote:
Its easy to fix the problem. Send'em all back where they came from.
eastern africa
arf meow arf
cthulu loves you
he loves the little children
with ketchup please
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| User: "DrPostman" |
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06 Jan 2005 04:21:15 AM |
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On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 01:53:13 -0800, mariposas morgan mair fheal
greykitten tomys des anges <mair_fheal@yahoo.com> in accordance with
The Prophecy scribed:
In article <1105001608.284571.322670@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
"Crazyalec" <oleka2000@yahoo.com> wrote:
Its easy to fix the problem. Send'em all back where they came from.
eastern africa
We all came from there, if you want to get technical.
--
DrPostman USPS, MBMC, BsD; "Disgruntled, But Unarmed"
Member,Board of Directors, afa-b, SKEP-TI-CULT® #15-51506-253.
AFA-B Official Pollster & Hammer of Thor winner - August 2004
You can email me at: DrPostman(at)gmail.com
"Nothing compares to the complicated futility of ignorance."
-Kurt Vonnegut
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| User: "FreeThink" |
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06 Jan 2005 04:44:38 AM |
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Its easy to fix the problem. Send'em all back where they came
from.
eastern africa
We all came from there, if you want to get technical.
I really doubt that he does. That makes things complicated.
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| User: "mariposas morgan mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges" |
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06 Jan 2005 04:37:42 AM |
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In article <te4qt0d32s0lf3dkfafhadiumqv3qtpoa2@4ax.com>,
DrPostman <Looky@mysig.foremail> wrote:
On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 01:53:13 -0800, mariposas morgan mair fheal
greykitten tomys des anges <mair_fheal@yahoo.com> in accordance with
The Prophecy scribed:
In article <1105001608.284571.322670@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
"Crazyalec" <oleka2000@yahoo.com> wrote:
Its easy to fix the problem. Send'em all back where they came from.
eastern africa
We all came from there, if you want to get technical.
duh
arf meow arf
cthulu loves you
he loves the little children
with ketchup please
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| User: "Vanilla Gorilla Monkey Boy" |
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04 Jan 2005 10:12:30 AM |
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On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 13:25:56 +0000, JPG <me@privacy.net> wrote in
alt.fan.art-bell in message
<626lt0tt1rluq4rvo2bp6ts8h4bgu8rc3n@4ax.com>:
On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 08:08:27 GMT, Bunn E. Rabbit <BunnERabbit@verizon.hutch.net>
wrote:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/islam/story/0,15568,1362591,00.html
British Muslims want Islamic law and prayers at work
Rather sad that a particular group wants to remain forever un integrated into
mainstream society.
After they've killed all us infidel types, they'll *be* "mainstream
society".
--
V.G.
Change pobox dot alaska to gci.
"Actually the Law of Conservation of Energy proves there's free energy." - Professor Alexa connects some brand new dots.
Sarcasm is my sword, Apathy is my shield.
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| User: "R Steenerson" |
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04 Jan 2005 10:53:14 AM |
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Hi,
Well, if the Muslim people's only answer is to kill those who do not
agree with them. That proves that America and other countries are right in
opposing Muslim extremists in Iraq and Afghanistan and anywhere else they
might be.
"Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)" <vgorilla@pobox.alaska.net> wrote in message
news:92glt0tgbb3g6g9k6v3tlfkslsvaak082s@4ax.com...
On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 13:25:56 +0000, JPG <me@privacy.net> wrote in
alt.fan.art-bell in message
<626lt0tt1rluq4rvo2bp6ts8h4bgu8rc3n@4ax.com>:
On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 08:08:27 GMT, Bunn E. Rabbit
<BunnERabbit@verizon.hutch.net>
wrote:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/islam/story/0,15568,1362591,00.html
British Muslims want Islamic law and prayers at work
Rather sad that a particular group wants to remain forever un integrated
into
mainstream society.
After they've killed all us infidel types, they'll *be* "mainstream
society".
--
V.G.
Change pobox dot alaska to gci.
"Actually the Law of Conservation of Energy proves there's free energy." -
Professor Alexa connects some brand new dots.
Sarcasm is my sword, Apathy is my shield.
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| User: "kathryn" |
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| Title: Re: British Muslims want Islamic Law in the UK |
04 Jan 2005 06:28:19 PM |
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opposing as in killing?
***** you twat
"R Steenerson" <rsteenerson@mn.rr.com> wrote in message
news:7QzCd.82297$NO5.11589@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
Hi,
Well, if the Muslim people's only answer is to kill those who do not
agree with them. That proves that America and other countries are right
in
opposing Muslim extremists in Iraq and Afghanistan and anywhere else they
might be.
"Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)" <vgorilla@pobox.alaska.net> wrote in
message
news:92glt0tgbb3g6g9k6v3tlfkslsvaak082s@4ax.com...
On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 13:25:56 +0000, JPG <me@privacy.net> wrote in
alt.fan.art-bell in message
<626lt0tt1rluq4rvo2bp6ts8h4bgu8rc3n@4ax.com>:
On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 08:08:27 GMT, Bunn E. Rabbit
<BunnERabbit@verizon.hutch.net>
wrote:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/islam/story/0,15568,1362591,00.html
British Muslims want Islamic law and prayers at work
Rather sad that a particular group wants to remain forever un integrated
into
mainstream society.
After they've killed all us infidel types, they'll *be* "mainstream
society".
--
V.G.
Change pobox dot alaska to gci.
"Actually the Law of Conservation of Energy proves there's free
energy." -
Professor Alexa connects some brand new dots.
Sarcasm is my sword, Apathy is my shield.
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| User: "R Steenerson" |
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05 Jan 2005 12:30:36 PM |
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I was not advocating killing people but, I support military defense of
freedom. Killing is to be avoided but, militant muslims kill people who
love freedom. Only criminals need to fear the police. To law abiding
people, the police are friends.
"kathryn" <bob@bobbybobbobthebobster.com> wrote in message
news:crfcb3$28h$1@titan.btinternet.com...
opposing as in killing?
***** you twat
"R Steenerson" <rsteenerson@mn.rr.com> wrote in message
news:7QzCd.82297$NO5.11589@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
Hi,
Well, if the Muslim people's only answer is to kill those who do not
agree with them. That proves that America and other countries are right
in
opposing Muslim extremists in Iraq and Afghanistan and anywhere else
they
might be.
"Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)" <vgorilla@pobox.alaska.net> wrote in
message
news:92glt0tgbb3g6g9k6v3tlfkslsvaak082s@4ax.com...
On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 13:25:56 +0000, JPG <me@privacy.net> wrote in
alt.fan.art-bell in message
<626lt0tt1rluq4rvo2bp6ts8h4bgu8rc3n@4ax.com>:
On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 08:08:27 GMT, Bunn E. Rabbit
<BunnERabbit@verizon.hutch.net>
wrote:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/islam/story/0,15568,1362591,00.html
British Muslims want Islamic law and prayers at work
Rather sad that a particular group wants to remain forever un
integrated
into
mainstream society.
After they've killed all us infidel types, they'll *be* "mainstream
society".
--
V.G.
Change pobox dot alaska to gci.
"Actually the Law of Conservation of Energy proves there's free
energy." -
Professor Alexa connects some brand new dots.
Sarcasm is my sword, Apathy is my shield.
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| User: "Bunn E. Rabbit" |
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| Title: Re: British Muslims want Islamic Law in the UK |
05 Jan 2005 06:16:56 AM |
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On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 00:28:19 +0000 (UTC), "kathryn"
<bob@bobbybobbobthebobster.com> wrote:
opposing as in killing?
***** you twat
Here, let me help.
--
Keith
http://news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=3806689
Genital Mutilation on the increase in Europe by muslims
http://www.faithfreedom.org/oped/GrantSwank41116.htm
The enemy can be just down the street: How immigration can destabilize
a country
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=16125
Swedes reach muslim breaking point
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/7/10/160934.shtml
Some details of Europe's hostage by islamo fascism.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=5152
Islam in Belgium.
http://www.frontpagemagazine.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=9583
Muslim plans for the takeover of Germany.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2003/12/07/nrace07.xml&sSheet=/news/2003/12/07/ixhome.html
Blacks attacked in UK by muslims.
http://frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=16191
Sexual amputation of Women in Europe.
http://www.faithfreedom.org/oped/GrantSwank41106.htm
Muslims terrorize Rotterdam.
http://www.faithfreedom.org/oped/sina40828.htm
Islamic Kingdom of England?
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=16117
Swedish children for sale.
http://www.faithfreedom.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5887
Holland: Trouble in Multiculturalist Utopia.
http://www.genoeg.nu/
Theo Van Gogh
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/003131.php
Sweden an Islamic State?
http://www.faithfreedom.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5802
Genital Mutilation among European Immigrants.
http://www.expatica.com/source/site_article.asp?subchannel_id=1&story_id=5482
'Dutch' muslims join jihad.
http://www.bnp.org.uk/news_detail.php?newsId=28
'Peaceful islam' in the UK.
http://washingtontimes.com/commentary/20041114-103944-4700r.htm
The end of Holland?
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Printable.asp?ID=6485
Islamo fascism rising in Holland.
http://pub.tv2.no/nettavisen/english/article284238.ece
'Peaceful muslims' in Norway.
http://pub.tv2.no/nettavisen/english/article254421.ece
Fear of islam in Norway.
http://www.faithfreedom.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2757&highlight=norway
More from a Norwegian.
http://www.radioislam.org/
A 'peaceful' website by muslims in Sweden.
http://www.cphpost.dk/get/82655.html
Islam in Denmark.
http://www.sharia.dk/Skribenter/hedegaard/rotten_denmark.html
Something rotten in Denmark?
http://www.faithfreedom.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5624&highlight=denmark
Muslim politician in Denmark condones stonings of women.
http://www.faithfreedom.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3893&highlight=sweden
Sweden held hostage by muslims.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/russia/article/0,2763,1318586,00.html
Mosque in London linked to genocide of children.
http://www.faithfreedom.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4791&highlight=london+iman
Canadian student in fearful of critiquing islam.
http://breaking.tcm.ie/2004/09/11/story166049.html
Muslims in London celebrate 9/11.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/09/05/wosse705.xml
Cleric in the UK supports terror of children in schools.
http://www.memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?Page=archives&Area=sd&ID=SP44702
Islamic clerics plans to conquer Rome.
http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/News/Trifkovic/NewsST022702.htm
Islamic terrorism in Italy.
http://www.expatica.com/source/site_article.asp?subchannel_id=81&story_id=5496
The Madrid Massacre.
http://www.nationalreview.com/derbyshire/derbyshire200409300813.asp
France headed for Civil War?
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1096959302006
Sale of suicide bomber toys in Paris.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3904943.stm
French Jews told to leave France to escape muslim attacks.
http://www.richardmullenax.com/?page=columns&art=32895
Danger of islam, especially in Europe.
http://members.optushome.com.au/jimball/realracists.htm
Muslim rape in Europe.
http://www.time.com/time/europe/magazine/2002/1202/crime/bellil.htm
Muslim rape in France.
http://www.hvk.org/articles/0702/140.html
Muslim rape in France and Australia.
http://www.windsofchange.net/archives/002566.php
http://www.windsofchange.net/archives/002562.php
Muslim rape in Norway.
http://www.gnxp.com/MT2/archives/001604.html
Muslim rape in Denmark.
http://www.wog.com.au/article_main.asp?ArticleID=286&PageNo=70
Muslim rape in Australia.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/003269.php
Muslim rape in Sweden.
http://multigraphic.dk/lounge/wordpress/index.php?p=905
Muslim rape of children in Russia.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=15983
Khomeini in Dearborn, Michigan.
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And some more links:
http://www.faithfreedom.info/
Gallery of islamic extremism and atrocities.
http://scotlandonsunday.scotsman.com/international.cfm?id=1134012002
Islamic Camel races and the torture, rape and murder of Children.
http://frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=9602
Honor violence in Pakistan.
http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Subway/5507/augustus99/TIM-women_concern.html
Islamic genocide in East Timor.
http://www.crocifissofena.com/islam/3.asp
Barbaric pictorial of islamic culture.
http://213.92.16.98/ESW_articolo/0,2393,42015,00.html
Islamic slavery of Blacks in Africa.
http://www.intelligence.org.il/eng/sib/11_04/najah.htm
Muslim education.
http://www.abc.net.au/foreign/content/2004/s1068052.htm
Muslim "Honor" killings of Women
http://womensissues.about.com/cs/honorkillings/a/honorkillings.htm
Facts about honor killings.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/3721932.stm
Treatment of women by islam.
http://www.alhannah.com/cgi-bin/guide.cgi?a;niqab
Dress code for Politically correct Women in the West who deny the
threat of islam.
http://www.faithfreedom.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3825
X-muslim in fear of being discovered.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Default.htm#Attacks
list of terror attacks since 9/11.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/041202/481/vah10312021751
Muslim "father" prepares daughter for terrorism.
http://www.memri.org/bin/latestnews.cgi?ID=SD81904
Muslim "mothers" wish to sacrifice more children.
http://www.swissinfo.org/sen/swissinfo.html?siteSect=143&sid=5356879
Muslim treatment of Buddhists in Thailand.
http://www.tellthechildrenthetruth.com/gallery/
Islam and their Nazis allies during WWII and beyond-Pictorial.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/11/25/falluja.weapons/index.html
Weapons in mosques.
http://www.faithfreedom.org/oped/ParisaHafezi41002.htm
Iranian Cleric Says Atomic Program will continue.
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And more links to website's dedicated to educating the sleeping masses
on the danger of islam.
http://www.rawa.org/ Afghanistan (Women's rights in islam)
http://geocities.com/TalibanSingles2004/ Afghanistan (muslim dating:-)
www.cilicia.com/armo10.html Armenia (islamic genocide)
www.aina.org/martyr Assyria(islamic genocide)
http://www.atheistfoundation.org.au/islamwhitewash.htm Australia
(Atheists/anti-islam)
http://www.ajna.cjb.net/ Canada/United/States (North American branch
of Anti-Jihad International)
http://www.nosharia.com/ Canada (International organization against
Shari'a Law in Canada)
www.islam-info.webz.cz/cesky/index1.htm Czech Republic-Czech only
(Anti-islam)
www.Islaminfo.dk Denmark-Danish only (Anti-islam)
http://www.sharia.dk/ Denmark-Danish only (Anti-muslim)
http://www.glistrup.com/ Denmark-Danish only (Former member of Danish
parliament exposes islam)
http://www.copts.net/index.asp Egypt (The ritual abuse of Coptic's in
Egypt by muslims)
www.islam-danger.com/ France-French only (Danger of islam)
http://www.france-avenir.com/ France-French only (Anti-islam)
http://www.france-echos.com/ France-French only (Islamization of
Europe)
http://www.sosfrance.com/ France-French only (Against islam in France)
http://www.contrelislam.org/ France-French only (Detailing the
oppressive nature of islam)
http://www.musulmanesonline.com/ France-French only (Satire of muslim
Women in France)
www.francarabia.org France-French only (The islamization of France)
http://www.moschee-schluechtern.de/ Germany-German only (Against
further construction of mosques)
http://www.christliche-mitte.de/material/muslime.htm Germany-German
only (Anti-islam detailing the muslim attempt to conquer Europe)
http://www.christliche-mitte.de/themen/islam/moscheen.htm More of
above.
http://www.christliche-mitte.de/themen/islam/buchliste.htm More of the
above.
www.moschee-wertheim.de/main.htm Germany-German only (Anti-islam,
anti-mosque)
http://www.buergerbewegungen.de/ Germany-German only (Anti-islam
fundamentalism)
http://www.moschee-schluechtern.de/texte/stolz/rezension_raddatz.htm
Germany-German only (Multicultural madness and islam)
http://www.zukunft-europa.info/ Germany-German only (Against Turkey's
admission to the European Union)
http://www.konservativ.de/islam/home.htm Germany-German only
(Discussion of the islamization of Europe)
http://mediafront.blogspot.com/ Germany (Islam and political
correctness)
http://people.freenet.de/frauenfokus/html/menschenrechte.htm Germany
(Islamic Law and its implications in Europe)
http://dki.antifa.net/inipa/inipa.php?p=islamofascism Germany (Islamo
fascism
http://members.aol.com/PetrusLotichius/Dokumente/stolz_islam_text.htm
Germany-German only (Islam related to Fascism)
http://ethnikoi.org/iran.html Greece/Persia (Freeing of Persia from
islam)
http://members.aye.net/~abrupt/house/islam.html India (Historical look
at islam)
http://www.bharatvani.org/books/mla/ India (Muslim League attacks in
1947)
http://www.mantra.com/holocaust/ India (Muslim genocide in India)
http://hinduhumanrights.org/ India (Detailing islamic genocide)
http://www.geocities.com/hinduunity/ India (Islamic quotes that
encourage terrorism)
http://hsita.cjb.net/ India (Hindu anti-muslim/terrorism)
http://ikashmir.org/new/ikashmir.php India/Kashmir (Islamic genocide)
http://www.kashmir-information.com/ India/Kashmir (Genocide against
Hindus and Buddhists)
www.huaren.org/atro/ Indonesia (Indonesian atrocities)
www.bwoi.cjb.net International (Kafirdom Unity)
www.faithfreedom.org International (most notable, created and run by
ex-Muslims, excellent forum)
www.hraic.org International (Human Rights Abuse in Islamic Countries)
www.anti-jihad.cjb.net/ International (International organization
against islam)
http://fai.showsit.info/ International (Facts and articles about
islam)
http://www.dhimmitude.org/ International (Status of non muslim
minorities under islamic rule)
http://www.dhimmi.com/ International (Human Rights of non muslims in
muslim majority nations)
http://atcoalition.showsit.info/ International (Anti-Terrorism with
American, Canadian, Israeli and Indian branches)
http://www.jihadwatch.org/ International (Articles and news stories on
islamo-fascism)
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/ International (Articles on
islamo-fascism in Western Countries not yet fallen to islam)
http://www.domini.org/lam/warnings.html International (Pitfalls of
marrying a "Middle Easterner" by an anonymous woman)
http://www.knowislam.info/drupal/ International (Humanist look at
Western converts to islam)
http://anti-jihad.dd.vg/ International (Anti-Jihad/Terrorism)
http://www.apostatesofislam.com/main.htm International (Ex-muslims)
http://embark.to/ams International (Anti-muslim, photography, news
articles)
http://humanists.net/avijit/openChallenge.html International
(Debunking islam thru science)
www.homa.org/ International (Women's rights and abuses within islam)
http://www.geocities.com/kaffir_resistance/ International (Terrorism)
http://www.equalityiniraq.com/english.htm Iraq (Women's rights in
Iraq)
http://www.cat2002.org/home.html Israel-United States (Numerous
documents detailing terrorism activity)
www.campus-watch.org/ North American (Student/Mid east Studies)
http://www.radiobergen.org/islam.html Norway (Anti-muslim)
http://rto73.0catch.com/index.htm Norway (Photos and links detaining
the worldwide islamic holocaust and genocide)
http://rto73.0catch.com/index.htm Norway-Norwegian only (Against
islamization of Europe(Scandinavia)
http://www.inrfvvp.org/images.htm Pakistan (Female victims of violence
by islam)
http://www.pakistan-facts.com/ Pakistan (Learn the awful truth of
islamic oppression in Pakistan)
www.derafsh-kaviyani.com/english/ Persia (Zoroastrian/islamic
atrocities in Iran)
http://www.geocities.com/hammihanirani/ Persia (Against the islamic
occupation of Iran)
http://iranpoliticsclub.com/ Persia (Fighting the mullahs/the removal
of islam from Iran)
http://www.alternativa2000.org/Contraoterrorislamico.html
Portugal-Portuguese-only (Anti-Muslim/Terrorism)
http://ifo-home.da.ru/ Russia (International, anti-islam)
www.geocities.com/chechentruth Russia (Islamic atrocities)
www.michaelparenti.org/MediaAtrocities.html Serbia (Islamic and UN
atrocities)
http://www.srpska-mreza.com/library/facts/Chele-kula.html Serbia
("Walls of skulls" Victims of islamic genocide)
http://www.incommunion.org/churches.htm Serbia (Destruction of
Churches in Kosovo by muslims and the United Nations)
http://mypage.bluewin.ch/ameland/index.html Switzerland/United Kingdom
(Former Egyptian-muslim Woman)
http://www.nd.se/jihad/ Sweden-Swedish only (Political party against
islam in Sweden)
http://www.islamfakta.org/ Sweden-Swedish only (Facts of islam in
Sweden and around the world)
http://terrorism.freeservers.com/suffering.html South Asian
(Anti-terrorism)
http://www.assoaime.net/ Tunisia-French only
http://www.islamic-news.co.uk/ United Kingdom (Video of Islamic
extremists living in the west)
http://www.anti-islam.8k.com/ United Kingdom (Anti-islam)
www.danielpipes.org United States (Journalist)
http://www.geocities.com/truefactor/ United States (Truth about islam)
http://cfiwest.org/newhorizons/ United States (Call for secularism in
Persia)
http://www.kobehq.com/ United States (Anti Muslim computer hackers)
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Ithaca/3440/islam.html United States
(Islamic threat to civilization)
http://www.geocities.com/islampencereleri3/ United States (Anti islam
from ex-muslim)
http://www.militaryweek.com/waronterror.shtml United States
(Information on terrorist activities)
http://www.geocities.com/islamic_monitor/index.html United States
(Secular, anti-islam)
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"R Steenerson" <rsteenerson@mn.rr.com> wrote in message
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Hi,
Well, if the Muslim people's only answer is to kill those who do not
agree with them. That proves that America and other countries are right
in
opposing Muslim extremists in Iraq and Afghanistan and anywhere else they
might be.
"Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)" <vgorilla@pobox.alaska.net> wrote in
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On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 13:25:56 +0000, JPG <me@privacy.net> wrote in
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On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 08:08:27 GMT, Bunn E. Rabbit
<BunnERabbit@verizon.hutch.net>
wrote:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/islam/story/0,15568,1362591,00.html
British Muslims want Islamic law and prayers at work
Rather sad that a particular group wants to remain forever un integrated
into
mainstream society.
After they've killed all us infidel types, they'll *be* "mainstream
society".
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Bunn E. Rabbit wrote:
On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 00:28:19 +0000 (UTC), "kathryn"
<bob@bobbybobbobthebobster.com> wrote:
opposing as in killing?
***** you twat
Here, let me help.
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That is an African thing, not a Muslim. Your argument is just as old as
it is weak.
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| User: "Rune Børsjø" |
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04 Jan 2005 11:20:35 PM |
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On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 00:28:19 +0000 (UTC), "kathryn"
<bob@bobbybobbobthebobster.com> wrote:
opposing as in killing?
***** you twat
I don't particularely like advocating the killing of innocents... I'd
just like to point out that they'd do it to us in a heartbeat, and
that if we don't quell militant islam, we're never gonna have a
chance.
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05 Jan 2005 10:56:28 AM |
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"Rune Børsjø" <buggeroffm@te.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 00:28:19 +0000 (UTC), "kathryn"
<bob@bobbybobbobthebobster.com> wrote:
opposing as in killing?
***** you twat
I don't particularely like advocating the killing of innocents... I'd
just like to point out that they'd do it to us in a heartbeat, and
that if we don't quell militant islam, we're never gonna have a
chance.
Going into other people's countries and killling people isn't going to quell
anything
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| User: "mariposas morgan mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges" |
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05 Jan 2005 12:20:04 PM |
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In article <crh67s$mq1$1@sparta.btinternet.com>,
"kathryn" <bob@bobbybobbobthebobster.com> wrote:
"Rune Børsjø" <buggeroffm@te.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 00:28:19 +0000 (UTC), "kathryn"
<bob@bobbybobbobthebobster.com> wrote:
opposing as in killing?
***** you twat
I don't particularely like advocating the killing of innocents... I'd
just like to point out that they'd do it to us in a heartbeat, and
that if we don't quell militant islam, we're never gonna have a
chance.
Going into other people's countries and killling people isn't going to quell
anything
it does if youre willing to be genocidal
romans quelled a lot of people
and the usa quieted down the phillipines
arf meow arf
cthulu loves you
he loves the little children
with ketchup please
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| User: "R Steenerson" |
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05 Jan 2005 12:40:25 PM |
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Nobody wants genocide. Most Muslims are wonderful, helpful, polite,
caring people who just want peace and live a successfull life.
Only the criminal element i.e. Al Queda, Hamas, Abu Sayaif, etc. need to
be opposed whatever that means. The U.S., Britain, and some other countries
are doing this in Iraq, Afghanistan, and some other places.
"mariposas morgan mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges"
<mair_fheal@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:mair_fheal-915467.10200405012005@corp.supernews.com...
In article <crh67s$mq1$1@sparta.btinternet.com>,
"kathryn" <bob@bobbybobbobthebobster.com> wrote:
"Rune Børsjø" <buggeroffm@te.com> wrote in message
news:r8umt05ujtej0d64j4b6h8jtq2pran36it@4ax.com...
On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 00:28:19 +0000 (UTC), "kathryn"
<bob@bobbybobbobthebobster.com> wrote:
opposing as in killing?
***** you twat
I don't particularely like advocating the killing of innocents... I'd
just like to point out that they'd do it to us in a heartbeat, and
that if we don't quell militant islam, we're never gonna have a
chance.
Going into other people's countries and killling people isn't going to
quell
anything
it does if youre willing to be genocidal
romans quelled a lot of people
and the usa quieted down the phillipines
arf meow arf
cthulu loves you
he loves the little children
with ketchup please
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| User: "mariposas morgan mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges" |
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05 Jan 2005 01:09:40 PM |
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In article <twWCd.170524$ye4.68923@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com>,
"R Steenerson" <rsteenerson@mn.rr.com> wrote:
Nobody wants genocide. Most Muslims are wonderful, helpful, polite,
caring people who just want peace and live a successfull life.
Only the criminal element i.e. Al Queda, Hamas, Abu Sayaif, etc. need to
be opposed whatever that means. The U.S., Britain, and some other countries
are doing this in Iraq, Afghanistan, and some other places.
what gives you the right to tell other countreis who are their criminals?
how do you feel about other countries declaring the usa and shrub war criminals?
arf meow arf
cthulu loves you
he loves the little children
with ketchup please
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| User: "R Steenerson" |
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05 Jan 2005 01:53:05 PM |
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There is a thing called the common good. Most people recognize that
the best thing for all people is peace. Therefore peace is the common good.
If Muslims want non-Muslims out of their land in this day and age. It will
not happen partly because of the lack of peace there but, also there will
always be people who like to understand other cultures and live among them.
If the Muslim extremists in Iraq stopped their attacks, the nations
that are there would recognize they are not needed and leave when they were
sure everything was stable. I assure the soldiers want to be home with
their families and the country wants them to be home to. However, if there
is work to be done I am sure they will remain.
The criminals are known by their conduct. Islamic extremists killed
Americans and people from other countries on 9/11 in America. Therefore,
they are criminals. Iraqi insurgents demonstrate they are criminals when
they set off bombs and beheaded people unjustly. I am not deciding anything
but, I can see by what happened that the best thing for America and other
nations to do is to oppose those who bring violence into the world. America
and other nations would not be involved in a war if those countries were
peaceful countries with freedom for their people.
Regards,
"mariposas morgan mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges"
<mair_fheal@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:mair_fheal-F4948D.11094005012005@corp.supernews.com...
In article <twWCd.170524$ye4.68923@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com>,
"R Steenerson" <rsteenerson@mn.rr.com> wrote:
Nobody wants genocide. Most Muslims are wonderful, helpful, polite,
caring people who just want peace and live a successfull life.
Only the criminal element i.e. Al Queda, Hamas, Abu Sayaif, etc. need
to
be opposed whatever that means. The U.S., Britain, and some other
countries
are doing this in Iraq, Afghanistan, and some other places.
what gives you the right to tell other countreis who are their criminals?
how do you feel about other countries declaring the usa and shrub war
criminals?
arf meow arf
cthulu loves you
he loves the little children
with ketchup please
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| User: "mariposas morgan mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges" |
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05 Jan 2005 02:53:59 PM |
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In article <BAXCd.187354$T02.15411@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com>,
"R Steenerson" <rsteenerson@mn.rr.com> wrote:
There is a thing called the common good. Most people recognize that
the best thing for all people is peace. Therefore peace is the common good.
If Muslims want non-Muslims out of their land in this day and age. It will
not happen partly because of the lack of peace there but, also there will
always be people who like to understand other cultures and live among them.
so what about the good people of pennsylvania not allowing the free expression
of religion if that religion aint christianity?
arf meow arf
cthulu loves you
he loves the little children
with ketchup please
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| User: "R Steenerson" |
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05 Jan 2005 03:40:37 PM |
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I have not heard about the case that you mention.
There is a problem though in America, that the American Civil Liberties
Union (aka ACLU) is opposing religious freedom all over the U.S. They do it
generally through the law courts and threatened court action. There are
many cases where they have tried to remove Christian and other religious
symbols from public buildings and schools. There may be situations where
they have done the right things but, I have heard about many situations
where they were trying to restrict Christians from doing things that no one
else objected to.
They seem to go after Christian symbols the most but, they have gone
after other symbols as well. It seems to many Christians in America that
they are run by Athiestic interests. A lot of times they will file a court
case under the guise of being on behalf of the people in a certain place.
In America there are quite a few Mosques in some cities and some
Buddhist temples, too. So, I am not aware of any other non-violent group
being restricted in any way.
Regards,
"mariposas morgan mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges"
<mair_fheal@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:mair_fheal-05B3B9.12535905012005@corp.supernews.com...
In article <BAXCd.187354$T02.15411@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com>,
"R Steenerson" <rsteenerson@mn.rr.com> wrote:
There is a thing called the common good. Most people recognize
that
the best thing for all people is peace. Therefore peace is the common
good.
If Muslims want non-Muslims out of their land in this day and age. It
will
not happen partly because of the lack of peace there but, also there
will
always be people who like to understand other cultures and live among
them.
so what about the good people of pennsylvania not allowing the free
expression
of religion if that religion aint christianity?
arf meow arf
cthulu loves you
he loves the little children
with ketchup please
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