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23 Mar 2007 07:55:36 AM |
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bud the dud backing up.................. |
.......................corresponds to EVERYBODY ELSE being accused of running
away.
We call it bud the dud crawfishing - nothing new, but a new dance craze anyway.
duke, American-American
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| Title: Re: bud the dud backing up.................. |
23 Mar 2007 09:22:04 AM |
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On 23 mrt, 13:55, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
......................corresponds to EVERYBODY ELSE being accused of running
away.
We call it bud the dud crawfishing - nothing new, but a new dance craze anyway.
duke, American-American
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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What thread are you running away from?
You give us no references
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| Title: Re: bud the dud backing up.................. |
24 Mar 2007 08:41:46 AM |
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On 23 Mar 2007 07:22:04 -0700, "pbamvv@worldonline.nl" <pbamvv@worldonline.nl>
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On 23 mrt, 13:55, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
......................corresponds to EVERYBODY ELSE being accused of running
away.
We call it bud the dud crawfishing - nothing new, but a new dance craze anyway.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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What thread are you running away from?
You give us no references
Me - none. Bud the dud - all - for all embarrass her.
duke, American-American
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| Title: Re: bud the dud backing up.................. |
24 Mar 2007 01:29:21 PM |
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On 24 mrt, 14:41, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
On 23 Mar 2007 07:22:04 -0700, "pba...@worldonline.nl" <pba...@worldonline.nl>
wrote:
On 23 mrt, 13:55, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
......................corresponds to EVERYBODY ELSE being accused of running
away.
We call it bud the dud crawfishing - nothing new, but a new dance craze anyway.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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What thread are you running away from?
You give us no references
Me - none. Bud the dud - all - for all embarrass her.
duke, American-American
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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I don't know any bud nor anyt thread Bud has been running away from
You should supply references
and you should stop insulting Jesus.
Peter van Velzen
March 2007
Amstelveen
The Netherlands
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: bud the dud backing up.................. |
24 Mar 2007 01:51:43 PM |
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On 24 Mar 2007 11:29:21 -0700, "pbamvv@worldonline.nl" <pbamvv@worldonline.nl>
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What thread are you running away from?
You give us no references
Me - none. Bud the dud - all - for all embarrass her.
I don't know any bud nor anyt thread Bud has been running away from
Good, kid, then why did you butt in?
You should supply references and you should stop insulting Jesus.
Don't worry, I never insult Jeus, period.
duke, American-American
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| Title: Re: bud the dud backing up.................. |
25 Mar 2007 06:18:38 AM |
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On 24 mrt, 20:51, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
On 24 Mar 2007 11:29:21 -0700, "pba...@worldonline.nl" <pba...@worldonline.nl>
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What thread are you running away from?
You give us no references
Me - none. Bud the dud - all - for all embarrass her.
I don't know any bud nor anyt thread Bud has been running away from
Good, kid, then why did you butt in?
You should supply references and you should stop insulting Jesus.
Don't worry, I never insult Jeus, period.
You mean, you never supply references, I think
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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Isulting Jesus again
(The Lords prayer appearantly ain't perfect enought)
Peter van Velzen
March 2007
Amstelveen
The Netherlands
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: bud the dud backing up.................. |
25 Mar 2007 08:28:46 AM |
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On 25 Mar 2007 04:18:38 -0700, "pbamvv@worldonline.nl" <pbamvv@worldonline.nl>
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Isulting Jesus again
(The Lords prayer appearantly ain't perfect enought)
Jesus taught us to pray to the Father in the Lord's Prayer.
The Mass calls us to participate with God.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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25 Mar 2007 01:51:39 PM |
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On 25 mrt, 15:28, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
On 25 Mar 2007 04:18:38 -0700, "pba...@worldonline.nl" <pba...@worldonline.nl>
wrote:
Isulting Jesus again
(The Lords prayer appearantly ain't perfect enought)
Jesus taught us to pray to the Father in the Lord's Prayer.
The Mass calls us to participate with God.
Sounds like hubris to me
I stil don't know what you mean with this thread.
It seems you want to keep it a secret.
Peter van Velzen
March 2007
Amstelveen
The Netherlands
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| Title: Re: bud the dud backing up.................. |
25 Mar 2007 04:45:58 PM |
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On 25 Mar 2007 11:51:39 -0700, "pbamvv@worldonline.nl" <pbamvv@worldonline.nl>
wrote:
Isulting Jesus again
(The Lords prayer appearantly ain't perfect enought)
Jesus taught us to pray to the Father in the Lord's Prayer.
The Mass calls us to participate with God.
Sounds like hubris to me
I stil don't know what you mean with this thread.
It seems you want to keep it a secret.
Cool. We already know you need to ask your daddy what the answer is.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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26 Mar 2007 01:46:44 PM |
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On 25 mrt, 23:45, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
On 25 Mar 2007 11:51:39 -0700, "pba...@worldonline.nl" <pba...@worldonline.nl>
wrote:
Isulting Jesus again
(The Lords prayer appearantly ain't perfect enought)
Jesus taught us to pray to the Father in the Lord's Prayer.
The Mass calls us to participate with God.
Sounds like hubris to me
I stil don't know what you mean with this thread.
It seems you want to keep it a secret.
Cool. We already know you need to ask your daddy what the answer is.
Sorry the dead don't talk
Anyway my father wouldn't understand either,
He'd probably advice me not to take notice of such a fool.
Read back your own contributions to this thread,
and you will notice you did not explain who bud the dud was,
nor what the thread was where he was (or was not) backing up.
And you expect a man who has been dead for 27 years to know the
answer?!?!
How crazy can you get?
O, you didn't know my father died in 1980?
Should have checked before you brought him in!
Now go away and don't come back to this NG,
untill you have learned to make some sense.
Peter van Velzen
son of Johannes Adrianus van Velzen (1921-1980)
March 2007
Amstelveen
The Netherlands
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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| Title: Re: bud the dud backing up.................. |
27 Mar 2007 01:11:00 AM |
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wrote:
On 25 mrt, 23:45, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
On 25 Mar 2007 11:51:39 -0700, "pba...@worldonline.nl"
<pba...@worldonline.nl> wrote:
Isulting Jesus again
(The Lords prayer appearantly ain't perfect enought)
Jesus taught us to pray to the Father in the Lord's Prayer.
The Mass calls us to participate with God.
Sounds like hubris to me
I stil don't know what you mean with this thread.
It seems you want to keep it a secret.
Cool. We already know you need to ask your daddy what the answer is.
Sorry the dead don't talk
Anyway my father wouldn't understand either,
He'd probably advice me not to take notice of such a fool.
My dad's answer when he was alive when asked why he was not a christian was
that he had seen to many of them.
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| Title: Re: bud the dud backing up.................. |
29 Mar 2007 11:49:15 AM |
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On 27 mrt, 08:11, "Mike Painter" <mddotpain...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
pba...@worldonline.nl wrote:
On 25 mrt, 23:45, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
On 25 Mar 2007 11:51:39 -0700, "pba...@worldonline.nl"
<pba...@worldonline.nl> wrote:
Isulting Jesus again
(The Lords prayer appearantly ain't perfect enought)
Jesus taught us to pray to the Father in the Lord's Prayer.
The Mass calls us to participate with God.
Sounds like hubris to me
I stil don't know what you mean with this thread.
It seems you want to keep it a secret.
Cool. We already know you need to ask your daddy what the answer is.
Sorry the dead don't talk
Anyway my father wouldn't understand either,
He'd probably advice me not to take notice of such a fool.
My dad's answer when he was alive when asked why he was not a christian was
that he had seen to many of them.- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht niet weergeven -
My father had no problem with the faith of others,
he just didn't think life after death was likely.
I don't know whether he still believed in a God.
I did while he was alive,
and maybe he decided I was smart enough to discover things myself.
Well I barely was:)
Noticed that Duke is under the illusion that I brought my father up?
Appearantly he doesn't understand what "your daddy" means
Peter van Velzen
March 2007
Amstelveen
The Netherlands
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: bud the dud backing up.................. |
29 Mar 2007 04:04:08 PM |
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On 29 Mar 2007 09:49:15 -0700, "pbamvv@worldonline.nl" <pbamvv@worldonline.nl>
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My dad's answer when he was alive when asked why he was not a christian was
that he had seen to many of them.- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht niet weergeven -
My father had no problem with the faith of others,
he just didn't think life after death was likely.
I don't know whether he still believed in a God.
I did while he was alive,
and maybe he decided I was smart enough to discover things myself.
Well I barely was:)
Noticed that Duke is under the illusion that I brought my father up?
Nope.
Appearantly he doesn't understand what "your daddy" means
You should have listened to him.
duke, American-American
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| Title: Re: bud the dud backing up.................. |
26 Mar 2007 05:04:56 PM |
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On 26 Mar 2007 11:46:44 -0700, "pbamvv@worldonline.nl" <pbamvv@worldonline.nl>
wrote:
Cool. We already know you need to ask your daddy what the answer is.
Sorry the dead don't talk
Anyway my father wouldn't understand either,
He'd probably advice me not to take notice of such a fool.
Read back your own contributions to this thread,
And still so much more powerful than your own contribution.
and you will notice you did not explain who bud the dud was,
nor what the thread was where he was (or was not) backing up.
If you don't know, you don't need to know.
And you expect a man who has been dead for 27 years to know the
answer?!?!
How crazy can you get?
Not crazy enough to know your personal history, kid.
O, you didn't know my father died in 1980?
Should have checked before you brought him in!
You brought him up.
Now go away and don't come back to this NG,
untill you have learned to make some sense.
For you, all I need is cents.
duke, American-American
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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26 Mar 2007 02:14:36 PM |
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On 25 mrt, 23:45, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
On 25 Mar 2007 11:51:39 -0700, "pba...@worldonline.nl" <pba...@worldonline.nl>
wrote:
Isulting Jesus again
(The Lords prayer appearantly ain't perfect enought)
Jesus taught us to pray to the Father in the Lord's Prayer.
The Mass calls us to participate with God.
Sounds like hubris to me
I stil don't know what you mean with this thread.
It seems you want to keep it a secret.
Cool. We already know you need to ask your daddy what the answer is.
Sorry the dead don't talk
Anyway my father wouldn't understand either,
He'd probably advice me not to take notice of such a fool.
Read back your own contributions to this thread,
and you will notice you did not explain who bud the dud was,
nor what the thread was where he was (or was not) backing up.
And you expect a man who has been dead for 27 years to know the
answer?!?!
How crazy can you get?
O, you didn't know my father died in 1980?
Should have checked before you brought him in!
Now go away and don't come back to this NG,
untill you have learned to make some sense.
Peter van Velzen
son of Johannes Adrianus van Velzen (1921-1980)
March 2007
Amstelveen
The Netherlands
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| User: "duke" |
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29 Mar 2007 04:02:24 PM |
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On 26 Mar 2007 12:14:36 -0700, "pbamvv@worldonline.nl" <pbamvv@worldonline.nl>
wrote:
Isulting Jesus again
(The Lords prayer appearantly ain't perfect enought)
Jesus taught us to pray to the Father in the Lord's Prayer.
The Mass calls us to participate with God.
Sounds like hubris to me
I stil don't know what you mean with this thread.
It seems you want to keep it a secret.
Cool. We already know you need to ask your daddy what the answer is.
Sorry the dead don't talk
He talked to you before he died.
Anyway my father wouldn't understand either,
He'd probably advice me not to take notice of such a fool.
Read back your own contributions to this thread,
and you will notice you did not explain who bud the dud was,
Everybody else knows.
nor what the thread was where he was (or was not) backing up.
And you expect a man who has been dead for 27 years to know the
answer?!?!
How crazy can you get?
You're pretty far out alright.
O, you didn't know my father died in 1980?
Should have checked before you brought him in!
Nope.
Now go away and don't come back to this NG,
untill you have learned to make some sense.
The only way to make sense to you is to wup you with an ugly stick.
duke, American-American
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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24 Mar 2007 02:33:16 PM |
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On Mar 23, 8:22 am, "pba...@worldonline.nl" <pba...@worldonline.nl>
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On 23 mrt, 13:55, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
......................corresponds to EVERYBODY ELSE being accused of ru=
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away.
We call it bud the dud crawfishing - nothing new, but a new dance craze=
anyway.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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What thread are you running away from?
He's running from 3 of them:
http://tinyurl.com/3c7unp
Where instead of addressing the material I posted, he simply reposted
the same obsolete garbage he'd already posted before - material that
was rendered obsolete by what I already posted, including a message
today, Mar 24th.
http://tinyurl.com/2m4lg3
This is a thread titled: "Why The Holy Bible Lies #71 - 80"
where Puke fails to address *even one* of the lies listed in the
opening message. Instead, he desperately goes off at a tangent and
gets his cowardly lying ***** kicked.
Since he cannot defeat the case I made, he's reduced once again to
posting obsoleted material instead of actually addressing material I
posted. I don't know if it's more funny or more pathetic that he's
using the crayfish metaphor when it applies most accutely to him, as
the entire Usenet knows by now.
Most ironic of all though, is the thread that's directly related to
the overthrown material he keeps reposting:
http://tinyurl.com/37akn5
This thread, opened on Mar 20th, is titled "Why There Was No Flood -
Item #59", and addresses his vacuous whining head-on
Puke is conspicuous by his complete absence from that thread, thereby
once again proving to the Internet community that when it comes down
to a detailed discussion which requires intelligence, rationale
exchange, and supportive evidence, he runs like diarrhea.
You give us no references
He never does. If he did, he knows we'd find the material and use it
to show what a liar and/or hypocrite and/or coward he is.
Here's what I posted in the flood thread - which Duke daren't face:
What does The Catholic Encyclopedia have to say about the global
flood? Well, it pitches in on why there was no global flood and it
also dates the Biblical flood fable:
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/04702a.htm
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"=2E..the Masoretic text assigns it to the year 1656 after the creation,
the Samaritan to 1307, the Septuagint to 2242, Flavius Josephus to
2256. Again, the Masoretic text places it in B. C. 2350 (Klaproth) or
2253 (L=FCken), the Samaritan in 2903, the Septuagint in 3134. According
to the ancient traditions (L=FCken), the Assyrians placed the Deluge in
2234 B. C. or 2316, the Greeks in 2300, the Egyptians in 2600, the
Phoenicians in 2700, the Mexicans in 2900, the Indians in 3100, the
Chinese in 2297, while the Armenians assigned the building of the
Tower of Babel to about 2200 B. C...."
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In short, all of these dates shown in the CATHOLIC encyclopedia agree
(near as damnit is to swearing) with the very date I've been using -
the date I took directly from Biblical genealogies!
What else does it have to say?
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* First, no such geological traces can be found as ought to have
been left by a universal Deluge; for the catastrophe connected with
the beginning of the ice-age, or the geological deluge, must not be
connected with the Biblical.
* Secondly, the amount of water required by a universal Deluge, as
described in the Bible, cannot be accounted for by the data furnished
in the Biblical account. If the surface of the earth, in round
numbers, amounts to 510,000,000 square kilometres, and if the
elevation of the highest mountains reaches about 9000 metres, the
water required by the Biblical Flood, if it be universal, amounts to
about 4,600,000,000 cubic kilometres. Now, a forty days' rain, ten
times more copious than the most violent rainfall known to us, will
raise the level of the sea only about 800 metres; since the height to
be attained is about 9000 metres, there is still a gap to be filled by
unknown sources amounting to a height of more than 8000 metres, in
order to raise the water to the level of the greatest mountains.
* Thirdly, if the Biblical Deluge was geographically universal,
the sea water and the fresh water would mix to such an extent that
neither the marine animals nor the fresh-water animals could have
lived in the mixture without a miracle.
* Fourthly, there are serious difficulties connected with the
animals in the ark, if the Flood was geographically universal: How
were they brought to Noe from the remote regions of the earth in which
they lived? How could eight persons take care of such an array of
beasts? Where did they obtain the food necessary for all the animals?
How could the arctic animals live with those of the torrid zone for a
whole year and under the same roof? "
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QED.
Budikka
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25 Mar 2007 08:25:55 AM |
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On 24 Mar 2007 12:33:16 -0700, "Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote:
On Mar 23, 8:22 am, "pba...@worldonline.nl" <pba...@worldonline.nl>
wrote:
On 23 mrt, 13:55, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
......................corresponds to EVERYBODY ELSE being accused of running
away.
We call it bud the dud crawfishing - nothing new, but a new dance craze anyway.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
What thread are you running away from?
Hey, biblical dud.
The ones where you refuse to consider my putdown of you re the Jesus genealogy.
You ran and ran and ran from my answer, so I quit posting to them and start new
ones like you did in this one.
See below:
Reference the Luke genealogy of Jesus, Catholic Study Bible, St. Jerome Edition,
the bible clearly states the following in the introduction to Genesis:
"The time period of Chapters 1 through 11 of Genesis takes us back to the very
beginnings of things. It must never be forgotten, however, that Chapters 1-11
are not a scientific account of the beginnings of the universe or of life. They
are Israel's faith statement of God's activity in the origins of the universe
and of mankind."
Google search on "prehistory of genesis 1-11"
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http://startthinking.homestead.com/files/Genesis_Paper.doc
So Pius XII suggests to exegetes a daring synthesis with respect to a
hermeneutic of Genesis ch. 1- 11: the first eleven chapters of the book of
Genesis employ simple and metaphorical language adapted to the mentality of an
uncultured people to express those truths of history fundamental to our
salvation. In short, there is a solid core of history, as it were, buried under
the language and popular mentality of the ancient Hebrew.
What is that core of historical fact in Genesis 1 - 11? The Pontifical Biblical
Commission in 1909 gives the following answer, which has never been withdrawn in
any way since 1909. James Stenson says " the official document states that the
literal historical meaning of the first three chapters of Genesis could not be
doubted in regard to":
1.) the creation of all things by God at the beginning of time
2.) the special creation of man
3.) the formation of the first woman from the first man
4.) the unity of the human race
5.) the original happiness of our first parents in the state of justice,
integrity, and immortality
6.) the command given by God to man to test his obedience
7.) the transgression of the divine command at the instigation of the devil
under the form of a serpent
8.) the degradation of our first parents from that primeval state of innocence
9.) the promise of a future redeemer.
With respect to any other dimension of Genesis 1-3, the literal sense must be
examined more fully by exegetes. So 1 - 9 form the historical core of truths
fundamental to our faith expressed in Genesis ch. 1- 3, the truths around which
the ancient Hebraic authors either elaborated a story or collected a popular
tradition or recorded a primitive pre-history.
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http://books.google.com/books?id=WPt7NB9GFu0C&pg=PA63&lpg=PA63&dq=
prehistory+of+genesis+%221+11%22&source=web&ots=k965YPQn2A&sig=
T1YPXZ12c_rpgMLBR6EjvD6TiFk#PPA63,M1
"Genesis 1-11 is called prehistory because it predates any history of Israelite
history; it is actually a theological preface to the whole of salvation
history."
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duke, American-American
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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