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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "JTEM"
Date: 07 Jun 2005 04:50:58 PM
Object: Bush: 5 Honesty: 0
Was just watching the New England Cable News
channel (which, up to this point, I considered the
very last source of actual "news" on television)
when the ran this story...
Are you ready for this one?
Presidential campaign... new revelations... military
records...
Yes, the press just got FULL DISCLOSURE of his
military records.
John Kerry's, that is.
As far as Bush is concerned, you are ordered to
remain in your hypnotic state:
Believe....Bush served with honors...believe...honorable
discharge...believe...Bush released all his records
himself...you will believe...CBS invented the controversy
with THEIR forged document...your head hurts if you
doubt...Bush is a hero...you must believe...
.

User: "Fred Stone"

Title: Re: Bush: 5 Honesty: 0 08 Jun 2005 07:44:02 AM
DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in news:L7xpe.6907$xI2.1986
@trnddc09:

JTEM wrote:

"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"


I get it. Fred Stone admires going AWOL more than
enlisting in the armed forces.



In "Fred's" universe, Bush is a war hero.


Can't be a war hero if you didn't go to war... ;-)

I see that honesty and facts don't enter into your universe.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Even if the grass is greener on the other side,
they still have to cut it.
.
User: "DanielSan"

Title: Re: Bush: 5 Honesty: 0 08 Jun 2005 12:38:22 PM
Fred Stone wrote:

DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in news:L7xpe.6907$xI2.1986
@trnddc09:


JTEM wrote:

"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"



I get it. Fred Stone admires going AWOL more than
enlisting in the armed forces.



In "Fred's" universe, Bush is a war hero.


Can't be a war hero if you didn't go to war... ;-)



I see that honesty and facts don't enter into your universe.

So, Bush went to war? Which Vietnamese city did he fly over?
.

User: "Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass"

Title: Re: Bush: 5 Honesty: 0 09 Jun 2005 02:02:55 AM
On Wed, 08 Jun 2005 12:44:02 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:

DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in news:L7xpe.6907$xI2.1986
@trnddc09:

JTEM wrote:

"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"


I get it. Fred Stone admires going AWOL more than
enlisting in the armed forces.



In "Fred's" universe, Bush is a war hero.


Can't be a war hero if you didn't go to war... ;-)


I see that honesty and facts don't enter into your universe.

Where's that WMD again, *****?
-----
Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec (aka
aka Yang's little poltregeist *****)
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.6 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -1678 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
.

User: ""

Title: Re: Bush: 5 Honesty: 0 14 Jun 2005 12:51:06 AM
So tell us Fred, which war did G. W. Bush go to?
.


User: "DanielSan"

Title: Re: Bush: 5 Honesty: 0 07 Jun 2005 08:06:05 PM
duke wrote:

On Tue, 7 Jun 2005 17:50:58 -0400, "JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com> wrote:


Was just watching the New England Cable News
channel (which, up to this point, I considered the
very last source of actual "news" on television)
when the ran this story...

Are you ready for this one?

Presidential campaign... new revelations... military
records...

Yes, the press just got FULL DISCLOSURE of his
military records.

John Kerry's, that is.



So he deliberately lied to the American public in the runup to the election.
Why is no one surprised?

I am not surprisd that Bush has never given a full disclosure of his
military records.


Gee, I wonder what he was hiding?

Indeed.
.
User: "JTEM"

Title: Re: Bush: 5 Honesty: 0 07 Jun 2005 08:48:03 PM
"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote

I am not surprisd that Bush has never given a full
disclosure of his military records.

I am surprised that the Pentagon is filled with nothing but
pampered momma's boys, who think only of their own
careers & are willing to kiss Bush's *****.
Not one of them -- not one -- had the balls or the honor
to stand up to this draft-dodger-turned-deserter because,
now get this, it would have cost them their "career" or
even their "Retirement."
And we expect these Pentagon chicken shits to fight against
people willing to blow themselves up?
Well they're certainly not "leading" by example!
What, they like taking orders from a draft-dodger-turned-
deserter, only to be blamed for Rumsfeld's ***** ups?
They like seeing benefits denied to veterans, and even the
families of the current fighting men, because the chicken
***** in the Whitehouse gave too much away to the already
filthy rich?
Of course not. They suck up to Bush, kiss is overly
privileged chicken ***** because their rank and their
retirement means more to them than anything else,
including the constitutional government they are pledged
to protect.
.

User: "duke"

Title: Re: Bush: 5 Honesty: 0 08 Jun 2005 05:14:10 AM
On Wed, 08 Jun 2005 01:06:05 GMT, DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote:

Yes, the press just got FULL DISCLOSURE of his
military records.
John Kerry's, that is.

So he deliberately lied to the American public in the runup to the election.
Why is no one surprised?

I am not surprisd that Bush has never given a full disclosure of his
military records.

But he issued that authorization long before the election.

Gee, I wonder what he was hiding?

Indeed.

How dumb you are.
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
.
User: "DanielSan"

Title: Re: Bush: 5 Honesty: 0 08 Jun 2005 05:29:20 AM
duke wrote:

On Wed, 08 Jun 2005 01:06:05 GMT, DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote:


Yes, the press just got FULL DISCLOSURE of his
military records.
John Kerry's, that is.


So he deliberately lied to the American public in the runup to the election.
Why is no one surprised?



I am not surprisd that Bush has never given a full disclosure of his
military records.



But he issued that authorization long before the election.

What authorization?



Gee, I wonder what he was hiding?


Indeed.



How dumb you are.

Your insults do not phase me, duke. It just shows me that you have no
argument.
.
User: "Fred Stone"

Title: Re: Bush: 5 Honesty: 0 08 Jun 2005 07:50:00 AM
DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in
news:4Mzpe.15722$yS2.4092@trnddc07:

duke wrote:

On Wed, 08 Jun 2005 01:06:05 GMT, DanielSan
<daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote:


Yes, the press just got FULL DISCLOSURE of his
military records.
John Kerry's, that is.


So he deliberately lied to the American public in the runup to the
election. Why is no one surprised?



I am not surprisd that Bush has never given a full disclosure of his
military records.



But he issued that authorization long before the election.


What authorization?

The F-180 form. You know, the same type of form that John Kerry finally
got around to submitting?
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Even if the grass is greener on the other side,
they still have to cut it.
.
User: "DanielSan"

Title: Re: Bush: 5 Honesty: 0 08 Jun 2005 12:45:11 PM
Fred Stone wrote:

DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in
news:4Mzpe.15722$yS2.4092@trnddc07:


duke wrote:

On Wed, 08 Jun 2005 01:06:05 GMT, DanielSan
<daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote:



Yes, the press just got FULL DISCLOSURE of his
military records.
John Kerry's, that is.


So he deliberately lied to the American public in the runup to the
election. Why is no one surprised?



I am not surprisd that Bush has never given a full disclosure of his
military records.



But he issued that authorization long before the election.


What authorization?



The F-180 form. You know, the same type of form that John Kerry finally
got around to submitting?

You probably meant "SF-180".
I did a search for evidence to this but found nothing but a lot of
right-wing screed websites. Are you sure you're not drinking the
Kool-Aid, Fred?
.
User: "Fred Stone"

Title: Re: Bush: 5 Honesty: 0 08 Jun 2005 01:44:04 PM
DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in
news:H8Gpe.6965$xI2.4592@trnddc09:

Fred Stone wrote:

DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in
news:4Mzpe.15722$yS2.4092@trnddc07:


duke wrote:

On Wed, 08 Jun 2005 01:06:05 GMT, DanielSan
<daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote:



Yes, the press just got FULL DISCLOSURE of his
military records.
John Kerry's, that is.


So he deliberately lied to the American public in the runup to the
election. Why is no one surprised?



I am not surprisd that Bush has never given a full disclosure of
his military records.



But he issued that authorization long before the election.


What authorization?



The F-180 form. You know, the same type of form that John Kerry
finally got around to submitting?


You probably meant "SF-180".

I did a search for evidence to this but found nothing but a lot of
right-wing screed websites. Are you sure you're not drinking the
Kool-Aid, Fred?

Are you sure you're doing the search right? Most of the hits I got were
about how Kerry is still playing games with the way he authorizes the
information to be released.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Even if the grass is greener on the other side,
they still have to cut it.
.
User: "DanielSan"

Title: Re: Bush: 5 Honesty: 0 08 Jun 2005 02:42:07 PM
Fred Stone wrote:

DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in
news:H8Gpe.6965$xI2.4592@trnddc09:


Fred Stone wrote:

DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in
news:4Mzpe.15722$yS2.4092@trnddc07:



duke wrote:


On Wed, 08 Jun 2005 01:06:05 GMT, DanielSan
<daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote:




Yes, the press just got FULL DISCLOSURE of his
military records.
John Kerry's, that is.


So he deliberately lied to the American public in the runup to the
election. Why is no one surprised?



I am not surprisd that Bush has never given a full disclosure of
his military records.



But he issued that authorization long before the election.


What authorization?



The F-180 form. You know, the same type of form that John Kerry
finally got around to submitting?


You probably meant "SF-180".

I did a search for evidence to this but found nothing but a lot of
right-wing screed websites. Are you sure you're not drinking the
Kool-Aid, Fred?



Are you sure you're doing the search right? Most of the hits I got were
about how Kerry is still playing games with the way he authorizes the
information to be released.

Yep. I did my search right and I found the same information as
you...from right-wing screed websites.
Question: If I quoted something to you from Media Matters or Air
America, would you believe it? Extend this out, why would I believe
websites from people like Michele Malkin*?
* Not our Michele Malkin. ;-)
.
User: "JTEM"

Title: Re: Bush: 5 Honesty: 0 08 Jun 2005 04:43:23 PM
"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote

Question: If I quoted something to you from Media
Matters or Air America, would you believe it?
Extend this out, why would I believe websites from
people like Michele Malkin*?

Better question: When "Fred" was challenged, challenged
and challenged again to show one single "lie" told by
Michael Moore, and failed, why would he dismiss Michael
Moore yet accept obviously partisan GOP sources?
.

User: "Michelle Malkin"

Title: Re: Bush: 5 Honesty: 0 09 Jun 2005 02:01:43 AM
"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:jSHpe.5885$Kj3.90@trnddc03...

Fred Stone wrote:

DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in
news:H8Gpe.6965$xI2.4592@trnddc09:


Fred Stone wrote:

DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in
news:4Mzpe.15722$yS2.4092@trnddc07:



duke wrote:


On Wed, 08 Jun 2005 01:06:05 GMT, DanielSan
<daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote:




Yes, the press just got FULL DISCLOSURE of his
military records.
John Kerry's, that is.


So he deliberately lied to the American public in the runup to the
election. Why is no one surprised?



I am not surprisd that Bush has never given a full disclosure of
his military records.



But he issued that authorization long before the election.


What authorization?



The F-180 form. You know, the same type of form that John Kerry
finally got around to submitting?


You probably meant "SF-180".

I did a search for evidence to this but found nothing but a lot of
right-wing screed websites. Are you sure you're not drinking the
Kool-Aid, Fred?



Are you sure you're doing the search right? Most of the hits I got were
about how Kerry is still playing games with the way he authorizes the
information to be released.


Yep. I did my search right and I found the same information as
you...from right-wing screed websites.

Question: If I quoted something to you from Media Matters or Air
America, would you believe it? Extend this out, why would I believe
websites from people like Michele Malkin*?

* Not our Michele Malkin. ;-)

two ells in Michelle. I think the rightwing bimbo spells it the same way.
My website isn't political.
--
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alt.atheism atheist/agnostic list name collector
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http://questioner.www2.50megs.com
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User: "DanielSan"

Title: Re: Bush: 5 Honesty: 0 09 Jun 2005 02:42:41 AM
Michelle Malkin wrote:

"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:jSHpe.5885$Kj3.90@trnddc03...

Fred Stone wrote:

DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in
news:H8Gpe.6965$xI2.4592@trnddc09:



Fred Stone wrote:


DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in
news:4Mzpe.15722$yS2.4092@trnddc07:




duke wrote:



On Wed, 08 Jun 2005 01:06:05 GMT, DanielSan
<daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote:





Yes, the press just got FULL DISCLOSURE of his
military records.
John Kerry's, that is.


So he deliberately lied to the American public in the runup to the
election. Why is no one surprised?



I am not surprisd that Bush has never given a full disclosure of
his military records.



But he issued that authorization long before the election.


What authorization?



The F-180 form. You know, the same type of form that John Kerry
finally got around to submitting?


You probably meant "SF-180".

I did a search for evidence to this but found nothing but a lot of
right-wing screed websites. Are you sure you're not drinking the
Kool-Aid, Fred?



Are you sure you're doing the search right? Most of the hits I got were
about how Kerry is still playing games with the way he authorizes the
information to be released.


Yep. I did my search right and I found the same information as
you...from right-wing screed websites.

Question: If I quoted something to you from Media Matters or Air
America, would you believe it? Extend this out, why would I believe
websites from people like Michele Malkin*?

* Not our Michele Malkin. ;-)



two ells in Michelle. I think the rightwing bimbo spells it the same way.
My website isn't political.

I blame my newsreader's font. My apologies, Michelle. :-) I think I
spelled it right in later posts. :-)
.


User: "Fred Stone"

Title: Re: Bush: 5 Honesty: 0 08 Jun 2005 03:27:29 PM
DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in
news:jSHpe.5885$Kj3.90@trnddc03:

Fred Stone wrote:

DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in
news:H8Gpe.6965$xI2.4592@trnddc09:


Fred Stone wrote:

DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in
news:4Mzpe.15722$yS2.4092@trnddc07:



duke wrote:


On Wed, 08 Jun 2005 01:06:05 GMT, DanielSan
<daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote:




Yes, the press just got FULL DISCLOSURE of his
military records.
John Kerry's, that is.


So he deliberately lied to the American public in the runup to
the election. Why is no one surprised?



I am not surprisd that Bush has never given a full disclosure of
his military records.



But he issued that authorization long before the election.


What authorization?



The F-180 form. You know, the same type of form that John Kerry
finally got around to submitting?


You probably meant "SF-180".

I did a search for evidence to this but found nothing but a lot of
right-wing screed websites. Are you sure you're not drinking the
Kool-Aid, Fred?



Are you sure you're doing the search right? Most of the hits I got
were about how Kerry is still playing games with the way he
authorizes the information to be released.


Yep. I did my search right and I found the same information as
you...from right-wing screed websites.

And did you notice that they give sources for their information?

Question: If I quoted something to you from Media Matters or Air
America, would you believe it?

If it was sourced properly and quoted people accurately and completely,
I probably would believe it. Not that I expect either of them to do
those things.

Extend this out, why would I believe
websites from people like Michele Malkin*?

Because she sources things properly and quotes people accurately and
completely?

* Not our Michele Malkin. ;-)

No, heaven forbid. :-)
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Even if the grass is greener on the other side,
they still have to cut it.
.
User: "DanielSan"

Title: Re: Bush: 5 Honesty: 0 08 Jun 2005 03:33:00 PM
Fred Stone wrote:

DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in
news:jSHpe.5885$Kj3.90@trnddc03:


Fred Stone wrote:

DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in
news:H8Gpe.6965$xI2.4592@trnddc09:



Fred Stone wrote:


DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in
news:4Mzpe.15722$yS2.4092@trnddc07:




duke wrote:



On Wed, 08 Jun 2005 01:06:05 GMT, DanielSan
<daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote:





Yes, the press just got FULL DISCLOSURE of his
military records.
John Kerry's, that is.


So he deliberately lied to the American public in the runup to
the election. Why is no one surprised?



I am not surprisd that Bush has never given a full disclosure of
his military records.



But he issued that authorization long before the election.


What authorization?



The F-180 form. You know, the same type of form that John Kerry
finally got around to submitting?


You probably meant "SF-180".

I did a search for evidence to this but found nothing but a lot of
right-wing screed websites. Are you sure you're not drinking the
Kool-Aid, Fred?



Are you sure you're doing the search right? Most of the hits I got
were about how Kerry is still playing games with the way he
authorizes the information to be released.


Yep. I did my search right and I found the same information as
you...from right-wing screed websites.



And did you notice that they give sources for their information?

And did you notice that you did not give those sources as your sources,
and, instead, went to a right-wing screed website that told you what you
wanted to hear from their cherry-picking of information?



Question: If I quoted something to you from Media Matters or Air
America, would you believe it?



If it was sourced properly and quoted people accurately and completely,
I probably would believe it. Not that I expect either of them to do
those things.

Which shows what you know about Media Mattes or Air America...
Pointedly, nothing at all.



Extend this out, why would I believe
websites from people like Michele Malkin*?



Because she sources things properly and quotes people accurately and
completely?

Then give me the source, not Michelle Malkin, so that I may research the
information and provide you with the facts fully, instead of the
cherry-picking that the other Michelle Malkin does?



* Not our Michele Malkin. ;-)



No, heaven forbid. :-)

.
User: "Fred Stone"

Title: Re: Bush: 5 Honesty: 0 08 Jun 2005 04:04:39 PM
DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in
news:0CIpe.5900$Kj3.4051@trnddc03:

Fred Stone wrote:

DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in
news:jSHpe.5885$Kj3.90@trnddc03:


Fred Stone wrote:

DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in
news:H8Gpe.6965$xI2.4592@trnddc09:



Fred Stone wrote:


DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in
news:4Mzpe.15722$yS2.4092@trnddc07:




duke wrote:



On Wed, 08 Jun 2005 01:06:05 GMT, DanielSan
<daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote:





Yes, the press just got FULL DISCLOSURE of his
military records.
John Kerry's, that is.


So he deliberately lied to the American public in the runup to
the election. Why is no one surprised?



I am not surprisd that Bush has never given a full disclosure
of his military records.



But he issued that authorization long before the election.


What authorization?



The F-180 form. You know, the same type of form that John Kerry
finally got around to submitting?


You probably meant "SF-180".

I did a search for evidence to this but found nothing but a lot of
right-wing screed websites. Are you sure you're not drinking the
Kool-Aid, Fred?



Are you sure you're doing the search right? Most of the hits I got
were about how Kerry is still playing games with the way he
authorizes the information to be released.


Yep. I did my search right and I found the same information as
you...from right-wing screed websites.



And did you notice that they give sources for their information?


And did you notice that you did not give those sources as your
sources, and, instead, went to a right-wing screed website that told
you what you wanted to hear from their cherry-picking of information?

If I did you'd probably whine about my not giving sources for the
sources of my sources...
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Even if the grass is greener on the other side,
they still have to cut it.
.
User: "DanielSan"

Title: Re: Bush: 5 Honesty: 0 08 Jun 2005 04:33:26 PM
Fred Stone wrote:

DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in
news:0CIpe.5900$Kj3.4051@trnddc03:


Fred Stone wrote:

DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in
news:jSHpe.5885$Kj3.90@trnddc03:



Fred Stone wrote:


DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in
news:H8Gpe.6965$xI2.4592@trnddc09:




Fred Stone wrote:



DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in
news:4Mzpe.15722$yS2.4092@trnddc07:





duke wrote:




On Wed, 08 Jun 2005 01:06:05 GMT, DanielSan
<daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote:






Yes, the press just got FULL DISCLOSURE of his
military records.
John Kerry's, that is.


So he deliberately lied to the American public in the runup to
the election. Why is no one surprised?



I am not surprisd that Bush has never given a full disclosure
of his military records.



But he issued that authorization long before the election.


What authorization?



The F-180 form. You know, the same type of form that John Kerry
finally got around to submitting?


You probably meant "SF-180".

I did a search for evidence to this but found nothing but a lot of
right-wing screed websites. Are you sure you're not drinking the
Kool-Aid, Fred?



Are you sure you're doing the search right? Most of the hits I got
were about how Kerry is still playing games with the way he
authorizes the information to be released.


Yep. I did my search right and I found the same information as
you...from right-wing screed websites.



And did you notice that they give sources for their information?


And did you notice that you did not give those sources as your
sources, and, instead, went to a right-wing screed website that told
you what you wanted to hear from their cherry-picking of information?



If I did you'd probably whine about my not giving sources for the
sources of my sources...

You assume too much.
.
User: "Fred Stone"

Title: Re: Bush: 5 Honesty: 0 08 Jun 2005 05:17:10 PM
DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in news:GuJpe.24824$U_2.23892
@trnddc06:

Fred Stone wrote:

DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in
news:0CIpe.5900$Kj3.4051@trnddc03:


Fred Stone wrote:

DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in
news:jSHpe.5885$Kj3.90@trnddc03:



Fred Stone wrote:


DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in
news:H8Gpe.6965$xI2.4592@trnddc09:




Fred Stone wrote:



DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in
news:4Mzpe.15722$yS2.4092@trnddc07:





duke wrote:




On Wed, 08 Jun 2005 01:06:05 GMT, DanielSan
<daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote:






Yes, the press just got FULL DISCLOSURE of his
military records.
John Kerry's, that is.


So he deliberately lied to the American public in the runup

to

the election. Why is no one surprised?



I am not surprisd that Bush has never given a full disclosure
of his military records.



But he issued that authorization long before the election.


What authorization?



The F-180 form. You know, the same type of form that John Kerry
finally got around to submitting?


You probably meant "SF-180".

I did a search for evidence to this but found nothing but a lot

of

right-wing screed websites. Are you sure you're not drinking the
Kool-Aid, Fred?



Are you sure you're doing the search right? Most of the hits I got
were about how Kerry is still playing games with the way he
authorizes the information to be released.


Yep. I did my search right and I found the same information as
you...from right-wing screed websites.



And did you notice that they give sources for their information?


And did you notice that you did not give those sources as your
sources, and, instead, went to a right-wing screed website that told
you what you wanted to hear from their cherry-picking of information?



If I did you'd probably whine about my not giving sources for the
sources of my sources...


You assume too much.

No assumption required. I *observe*.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Even if the grass is greener on the other side,
they still have to cut it.
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User: "duke"

Title: Re: Bush: 5 Honesty: 0 08 Jun 2005 05:30:14 PM
On Wed, 08 Jun 2005 10:29:20 GMT, DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote:

I am not surprisd that Bush has never given a full disclosure of his
military records.


But he issued that authorization long before the election.

What authorization?

Ah, your light bulb finally almost comes on, but doesn't.
To the military to provide full disclosure of his records.

Gee, I wonder what he was hiding?

Indeed.

How dumb you are.

Your insults do not phase me, duke. It just shows me that you have no
argument.

You don't even know about the authorization to the military, and you say I have
no argument?
duke
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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User: "DanielSan"

Title: Re: Bush: 5 Honesty: 0 08 Jun 2005 05:58:31 PM
duke wrote:

On Wed, 08 Jun 2005 10:29:20 GMT, DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote:


I am not surprisd that Bush has never given a full disclosure of his
military records.




But he issued that authorization long before the election.



What authorization?



Ah, your light bulb finally almost comes on, but doesn't.

To the military to provide full disclosure of his records.

He has.



Gee, I wonder what he was hiding?


Indeed.


How dumb you are.



Your insults do not phase me, duke. It just shows me that you have no
argument.



You don't even know about the authorization to the military, and you say I have
no argument?

I do know about the authorization... filed before the election.
.
User: "duke"

Title: Re: Bush: 5 Honesty: 0 09 Jun 2005 05:38:34 PM
On Wed, 08 Jun 2005 22:58:31 GMT, DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote:

But he issued that authorization long before the election.

What authorization?

Ah, your light bulb finally almost comes on, but doesn't.
To the military to provide full disclosure of his records.

He has.

Yep, early last year. 'rat kerry kept saying he has, but it looks like one big
'rat lie. It appears he's just doing so now.

You don't even know about the authorization to the military, and you say I have
no argument?

I do know about the authorization... filed before the election.

Yes, President Bush did that before the election.
duke
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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