Religions > Atheism > Bush accused of trying to undermine the UN with aid coalition
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"Gactimus" |
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30 Dec 2004 05:18:41 PM |
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Bush accused of trying to undermine the UN with aid coalition |
http://news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=3944374
United States President George Bush was tonight accused of trying to
undermine the United Nations by setting up a rival coalition to
coordinate relief following the Asian tsunami disaster.
The president has announced that the US, Japan, India and Australia
would coordinate the world’s response.
But former International Development Secretary Clare Short said that
role should be left to the UN.
“I think this initiative from America to set up four countries claiming
to coordinate sounds like yet another attempt to undermine the UN when
it is the best system we have got and the one that needs building up,”
she said.
“Only really the UN can do that job,” she told BBC Radio Four’s PM
programme.
“It is the only body that has the moral authority. But it can only do it
well if it is backed up by the authority of the great powers.”
Ms Short said the coalition countries did not have good records on
responding to international disasters.
She said the US was “very bad at coordinating with anyone” and India had
its own problems to deal with.
“I don’t know what that is about but it sounds very much, I am afraid,
like the US trying to have a separate operation and not work with the
rest of the world through the UN system,” she added.
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In your dreams, UN. As if the United States is going to trust you with such
a task after the oil-for-food scandal and your refusal to investigate it.
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31 Dec 2004 09:03:32 AM |
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"Gactimus" <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:
United States President George Bush was tonight accused of trying to
undermine the United Nations by setting up a rival coalition to
coordinate relief following the Asian tsunami disaster.
[...]
The fact of the matter is that the U.N. has decades of experience at
providing disaster relief, and the first supplies have already reached their
destinations. This makes me *very* happy that I sent $$$ to UNICEF for
tsunami disaster relief. You can, too:
http://www.supportunicef.org/site/pp.asp?c=iuI1LdP0G&b=276341
In your dreams, UN. As if the United States is going to trust you with such
a task after the oil-for-food scandal and your refusal to investigate it.
And we all know how much Halliburton, etc, are on the up-and-up.
*snicker*
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| User: "Gactimus" |
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31 Dec 2004 10:11:30 PM |
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"Spartakus" <no.spam@this.address> wrote in
news:1104505391.a24b342dd3fbdd10209af395098457bc@teranews:
"Gactimus" <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:
United States President George Bush was tonight accused of trying to
undermine the United Nations by setting up a rival coalition to
coordinate relief following the Asian tsunami disaster.
The fact of the matter is that the U.N. has decades of experience at
providing disaster relief,
As well as pilfering coffers.
In your dreams, UN. As if the United States is going to trust you with
such a task after the oil-for-food scandal and your refusal to
investigate it.
And we all know how much Halliburton, etc, are on the up-and-up.
And what does Halliburton have to do with disaster relief or the UN?
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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01 Jan 2005 04:27:04 PM |
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Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:
"Spartakus" <no.spam@this.address> wrote in
"Gactimus" <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:
United States President George Bush was tonight accused of trying to
undermine the United Nations by setting up a rival coalition to
coordinate relief following the Asian tsunami disaster.
The fact of the matter is that the U.N. has decades of experience at
providing disaster relief,
As well as pilfering coffers.
Yeah, we see all those UN officials retiriing with billions of
dollars.
No, wait, that's the Republican officials retiring with billions.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Gactimus" |
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02 Jan 2005 11:09:28 AM |
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(Ray Fischer) wrote in
news:cr783o$onr$1@bolt.sonic.net:
Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:
"Spartakus" <no.spam@this.address> wrote in
"Gactimus" <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:
United States President George Bush was tonight accused of trying
to undermine the United Nations by setting up a rival coalition to
coordinate relief following the Asian tsunami disaster.
The fact of the matter is that the U.N. has decades of experience at
providing disaster relief,
As well as pilfering coffers.
Yeah, we see all those UN officials retiriing with billions of
dollars.
No, wait, that's the Republican officials retiring with billions.
Such as...?
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| User: "james g. keegan jr." |
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| Title: Re: Bush accused of trying to undermine the UN with aid coalition |
02 Jan 2005 02:09:10 PM |
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Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote in news:ZICdnQPiV79Vt0XcRVn-hw@rcn.net:
[...]
who would believe aything a forger like you posted?
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| User: "Frank Pittel" |
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31 Dec 2004 10:17:31 AM |
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What the un has decades of experience in is incompetence and corruption
combined with no accountability to anyone.
In alt.politics.usa.republican Spartakus <no.spam@this.address> wrote:
: "Gactimus" <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:
: > United States President George Bush was tonight accused of trying to
: > undermine the United Nations by setting up a rival coalition to
: > coordinate relief following the Asian tsunami disaster.
: [...]
: The fact of the matter is that the U.N. has decades of experience at
: providing disaster relief, and the first supplies have already reached their
: destinations. This makes me *very* happy that I sent $$$ to UNICEF for
: tsunami disaster relief. You can, too:
: http://www.supportunicef.org/site/pp.asp?c=iuI1LdP0G&b=276341
: > In your dreams, UN. As if the United States is going to trust you with such
: > a task after the oil-for-food scandal and your refusal to investigate it.
: And we all know how much Halliburton, etc, are on the up-and-up.
: *snicker*
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| User: "Spartakus" |
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31 Dec 2004 12:09:50 PM |
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"Frank Pittel" <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote...
What the un has decades of experience in is incompetence and corruption
combined with no accountability to anyone.
You forgot to add "in my not-so-humble, ill-informed opinion".
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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31 Dec 2004 03:48:19 PM |
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Frank Pittel <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote:
What the un has decades of experience in is incompetence and corruption
combined with no accountability to anyone.
The usual right-wing paranoid lunacy.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Gactimus" |
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31 Dec 2004 10:12:18 PM |
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(Ray Fischer) wrote in
news:cr4hf2$buv$1@bolt.sonic.net:
Frank Pittel <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote:
What the un has decades of experience in is incompetence and corruption
combined with no accountability to anyone.
The usual right-wing paranoid lunacy.
What's the deal with your love affair with the UN?
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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01 Jan 2005 04:26:03 PM |
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Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
Frank Pittel <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote:
What the un has decades of experience in is incompetence and corruption
combined with no accountability to anyone.
The usual right-wing paranoid lunacy.
What's the deal with your love affair with the UN?
What's with your love affair for genocide and mass killing?
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Frank Pittel" |
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01 Jan 2005 01:22:31 PM |
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In alt.politics.usa.republican Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:
: (Ray Fischer) wrote in
: news:cr4hf2$buv$1@bolt.sonic.net:
: > Frank Pittel <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote:
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: >> What the un has decades of experience in is incompetence and corruption
: >> combined with no accountability to anyone.
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: > The usual right-wing paranoid lunacy.
: What's the deal with your love affair with the UN?
He hate the US and wants a one world communist government.
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| User: "Frank Pittel" |
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01 Jan 2005 11:16:23 PM |
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In alt.politics.usa.republican Ray Fischer <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote:
: Frank Pittel <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote:
: >What the un has decades of experience in is incompetence and corruption
: >combined with no accountability to anyone.
: The usual right-wing paranoid lunacy.
Paranoid?? While the US was spending money and risking the lives of military
personal looking for survivors of the tsunomi<SP?> that got washed out to sea
while the europeans and the un did nothing. As is typically the case the
french and un talk and think important thoughts while the US does all the
heavy lifting.
How's the un doing with the aids problem in Africa and the genicide going on
there (sorry I forget the name of the country)?? My bet is they've done
nothing in the last 90 days.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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02 Jan 2005 12:42:56 PM |
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Frank Pittel <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote:
In alt.politics.usa.republican Ray Fischer <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote:
: Frank Pittel <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote:
: >What the un has decades of experience in is incompetence and corruption
: >combined with no accountability to anyone.
: The usual right-wing paranoid lunacy.
Paranoid?? While the US was spending money and risking the lives of military
personal looking for survivors of the tsunomi<SP?> that got washed out to sea
Prove it.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Gunner" |
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02 Jan 2005 10:05:40 PM |
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On Sun, 02 Jan 2005 18:42:56 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) wrote:
Frank Pittel <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote:
In alt.politics.usa.republican Ray Fischer < > wrote:
: Frank Pittel <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote:
: >What the un has decades of experience in is incompetence and corruption
: >combined with no accountability to anyone.
: The usual right-wing paranoid lunacy.
Paranoid?? While the US was spending money and risking the lives of military
personal looking for survivors of the tsunomi<SP?> that got washed out to sea
Prove it.
We didnt walk on the moon either did we Ray?
Gunner
"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling
which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight,
nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being
free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."
- John Stewart Mill
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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03 Jan 2005 05:55:02 AM |
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Gunner <gunner@lightspeed.net> wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
Frank Pittel <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote:
: >What the un has decades of experience in is incompetence and corruption
: >combined with no accountability to anyone.
: The usual right-wing paranoid lunacy.
Paranoid?? While the US was spending money and risking the lives of military
personal looking for survivors of the tsunomi<SP?> that got washed out to sea
Prove it.
We didnt walk on the moon either did we Ray?
Run away, coward.
Bush offered $35 million in aid. That's about how much the US spends
every 7 hours on Iraq. The world was disgusted. Bush, embarrassed,
upped it to $350 million. That's three days of war in Iraq.
It's clear where the neocon's priorities are.
Killing people.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Gactimus" |
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03 Jan 2005 09:02:32 AM |
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(Ray Fischer) wrote in
news:crbbql$gkm$1@bolt.sonic.net:
Bush, embarrassed,
Prove it.
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| User: "Frank Pittel" |
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03 Jan 2005 08:51:05 PM |
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In alt.politics.usa.republican Ray Fischer <> wrote:
: Gunner <gunner@lightspeed.net> wrote:
: > (Ray Fischer) wrote:
: >>Frank Pittel <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote:
: >>>: >What the un has decades of experience in is incompetence and corruption
: >>>: >combined with no accountability to anyone.
: >>>
: >>>: The usual right-wing paranoid lunacy.
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: >>>Paranoid?? While the US was spending money and risking the lives of military
: >>>personal looking for survivors of the tsunomi<SP?> that got washed out to sea
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: >>Prove it.
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: >We didnt walk on the moon either did we Ray?
: Run away, coward.
: Bush offered $35 million in aid. That's about how much the US spends
: every 7 hours on Iraq. The world was disgusted. Bush, embarrassed,
: upped it to $350 million. That's three days of war in Iraq.
The truth is that by the time Bush offered the $35 million in aid we already
spent many millions by having the navy send planes and helicopters<SP?> into
the area to look for survivors that got washed into the sea.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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03 Jan 2005 09:45:37 PM |
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Frank Pittel <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer < > wrote:
: Gunner <gunner@lightspeed.net> wrote:
: > (Ray Fischer) wrote:
: >>Frank Pittel <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote:
: >>>: >What the un has decades of experience in is incompetence and corruption
: >>>: >combined with no accountability to anyone.
: >>>
: >>>: The usual right-wing paranoid lunacy.
: >>>
: >>>Paranoid?? While the US was spending money and risking the lives of military
: >>>personal looking for survivors of the tsunomi<SP?> that got washed out to sea
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: >>Prove it.
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: >We didnt walk on the moon either did we Ray?
: Run away, coward.
: Bush offered $35 million in aid. That's about how much the US spends
: every 7 hours on Iraq. The world was disgusted. Bush, embarrassed,
: upped it to $350 million. That's three days of war in Iraq.
The truth is that by the time Bush offered the $35 million in aid we already
spent many millions by having the navy send planes and helicopters<SP?> into
Prove it.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Gerry Quinn" |
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04 Jan 2005 07:51:40 AM |
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In article <crd3h0$l61$1@bolt.sonic.net>,
says...
Frank Pittel <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote:
The truth is that by the time Bush offered the $35 million in aid we already
spent many millions by having the navy send planes and helicopters<SP?> into
Prove it.
"It's a common tactic of whiny little cowards to suddenly start asking
for proof for everything as a way to run away." - yourself in this very
thread, experiencing a rare moment of self-awareness.
For the record, here is a story from 27 December relating to the initial
$15m. Not the $35m or $350m to which it was subsequently upped, after
more information became available on the scale of the disaster. [If I
recall correctly, over the course of that day the initial reports of
4000 dead slowly increased to around 20000.]
http://www.voanews.com/english/2004-12-27-voa22.cfm
<BEGIN QUOTE>
The United States is putting up an initial 15 million dollars in
disaster aid including an immediate four million dollar pledge to the
International Committee of the Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies,
though Mr. Powell made clear that the American response will be long-
term:
"Some 20-plus thousand lives have been lost in a few moments, but the
lingering effects will be there for years," Mr. Powell says. "The damage
that was caused, the rebuilding of schools and other facilities will
take time, so you need a quick infusion to stabilize the situation, take
care of those who have been injured, get immediate relief supplies in,
and then begin planning for the longer haul."
Mr. Powell said the U.S. military's Pacific Command has dispatched P-3
"Orion" patrol planes to the Indian Ocean region to assist local
governments in search and rescue efforts and that the Navy is examining
what else can be done.
The U.S. Agency for International Development is sending 21 disaster
assessment experts to the affected countries, some of whom have already
arrived. Officials say immediate U.S. material aid will include
emergency shelter, food, and water systems that has been stockpiled in
the Philippines and Dubai.
<END QUOTE>
In short, the initial $15m pledge was just that - initial - and was
indeed combined with immediate non-financial assistance. In total
contrast to falsehoods you have posted.
You should apologise for your constant disgusting and vicious lies, Mr.
Fischer. Indeed I suggest you refrain from posting at all until your
poisonous mental condition has improved. Usenet is not enhanced by the
presence of your kind.
- Gerry Quinn
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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04 Jan 2005 10:11:21 PM |
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Gerry Quinn <gerryq@DELETETHISindigo.ie> wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net
Frank Pittel <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote:
The truth is that by the time Bush offered the $35 million in aid we already
spent many millions by having the navy send planes and helicopters<SP?> into
Prove it.
"It's a common tactic of whiny little cowards to suddenly start asking
for proof for everything as a way to run away." - yourself in this very
thread, experiencing a rare moment of self-awareness.
That's me making a point, moron.
For the record, here is a story from 27 December relating to the initial
$15m. Not the $35m or $350m to which it was subsequently upped, after
more information became available on the scale of the disaster.
Which was widely reported in the news, so it's pretty obvious that
Pittel is just being a tiresome *****.
http://www.voanews.com/english/2004-12-27-voa22.cfm
<BEGIN QUOTE>
The United States is putting up an initial 15 million dollars in
disaster aid including an immediate four million dollar pledge to the
International Committee of the Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies,
though Mr. Powell made clear that the American response will be long-
term:
Put that into perspective: The war in Iraq costs the US $15M every
two hours.
<END QUOTE>
In short, the initial $15m pledge was just that - initial - and was
indeed combined with immediate non-financial assistance.
The $350M latest offer amounts to about two days of spending on the
war in Iraq. Further, it's $350M that's come from a general emergency
aid fund. $350M that won't be available for other emergencies.
The current administration's priorities are clear.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Frank Pittel" |
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07 Jan 2005 11:56:36 AM |
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In alt.politics.usa.republican Ray Fischer <> wrote:
: Gerry Quinn <gerryq@DELETETHISindigo.ie> wrote:
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: >> Frank Pittel <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote:
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: >> >The truth is that by the time Bush offered the $35 million in aid we already
: >> >spent many millions by having the navy send planes and helicopters<SP?> into
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: >> Prove it.
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: >"It's a common tactic of whiny little cowards to suddenly start asking
: >for proof for everything as a way to run away." - yourself in this very
: >thread, experiencing a rare moment of self-awareness.
: That's me making a point, moron.
That's you acting like a moron.
: >For the record, here is a story from 27 December relating to the initial
: >$15m. Not the $35m or $350m to which it was subsequently upped, after
: >more information became available on the scale of the disaster.
: Which was widely reported in the news, so it's pretty obvious that
: Pittel is just being a tiresome *****.
Which is why you didn't believe the statement and demanded proof.
: >http://www.voanews.com/english/2004-12-27-voa22.cfm
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: ><BEGIN QUOTE>
: >
: >The United States is putting up an initial 15 million dollars in
: >disaster aid including an immediate four million dollar pledge to the
: >International Committee of the Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies,
: >though Mr. Powell made clear that the American response will be long-
: >term:
: Put that into perspective: The war in Iraq costs the US $15M every
: two hours.
Prove it!!
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| User: "Gerry Quinn" |
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05 Jan 2005 07:35:47 AM |
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In article <crfpd9$3cs$1@bolt.sonic.net>,
says...
Gerry Quinn <gerryq@DELETETHISindigo.ie> wrote:
Frank Pittel <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote:
The truth is that by the time Bush offered the $35 million in aid we already
spent many millions by having the navy send planes and helicopters<SP?> into
Prove it.
"It's a common tactic of whiny little cowards to suddenly start asking
for proof for everything as a way to run away." - yourself in this very
thread, experiencing a rare moment of self-awareness.
That's me making a point, moron.
Indeed - I merely observed that the point you actually made, as distinct
from the one youy wanted to make, seems to be that you are a *****.
For the record, here is a story from 27 December relating to the initial
$15m. Not the $35m or $350m to which it was subsequently upped, after
more information became available on the scale of the disaster.
Which was widely reported in the news, so it's pretty obvious that
Pittel is just being a tiresome *****.
Pittel contradicted your lies by pointing out something that was widely
reported, and you whined about "proof". Clearly you are the *****
here.
http://www.voanews.com/english/2004-12-27-voa22.cfm
<BEGIN QUOTE>
The United States is putting up an initial 15 million dollars in
disaster aid including an immediate four million dollar pledge to the
International Committee of the Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies,
though Mr. Powell made clear that the American response will be long-
term:
Put that into perspective: The war in Iraq costs the US $15M every
two hours.
Your point being? Every expenditure by the US government should be
increased because there is a war on?
<END QUOTE>
In short, the initial $15m pledge was just that - initial - and was
indeed combined with immediate non-financial assistance.
The $350M latest offer amounts to about two days of spending on the
war in Iraq. Further, it's $350M that's come from a general emergency
aid fund. $350M that won't be available for other emergencies.
That's why general emergency aid funds exist - to allocate funds for
emergencies. Emergencies haveing a tendency to occur from time to time.
The current administration's priorities are clear.
Shouldn't they be? I mean, if they were a bunch of self-contradicting
idiots like you, I would worry...
- Gerry Quinn
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| User: "Gunner" |
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04 Jan 2005 10:28:03 PM |
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On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 04:11:21 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) wrote:
Which was widely reported in the news, so it's pretty obvious that
Pittel is just being a tiresome *****.
Seems you have company then.
Gunner
It's not unwise to remember that Mother Nature is essentially a
murderous, sneakly, promiscuous ***** who has been trying to kill you
since your conception.
Eventually she will succeed, perhaps with the help of your fellow man.
Life consists in putting off the inevitable as long as possible and
taking what good and joy you can before her success.
Whether you attribute that situation to evolutionary forces, a fallen
nature after Adam and Eve screwed the pooch, or whatever, it's no less true.
Be friendly, pleasant, unaggressive, and honest toward all and be
prepared to ignore, avoid, or even kill anyone who is otherwise toward
you. Being ready doesn't mean eager, just ready. What true friends are
found in life will undestand and accept that fundamental rule of human
interaction." John Husvar
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| User: "Gunner" |
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03 Jan 2005 11:47:51 AM |
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On Mon, 03 Jan 2005 11:55:02 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) wrote:
Prove it.
We didnt walk on the moon either did we Ray?
Run away, coward.
Bush offered $35 million in aid. That's about how much the US spends
every 7 hours on Iraq. The world was disgusted. Bush, embarrassed,
upped it to $350 million. That's three days of war in Iraq.
It's clear where the neocon's priorities are.
Killing people.
Proof?
--
Ray Felcher
"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling
which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight,
nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being
free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."
- John Stewart Mill
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| Title: Re: Bush accused of trying to undermine the UN with aid coalition |
03 Jan 2005 08:51:39 PM |
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In alt.politics.usa.republican Gunner <gunner@lightspeed.net> wrote:
: On Mon, 03 Jan 2005 11:55:02 GMT, (Ray
: Fischer) wrote:
: >>>Prove it.
: >>
: >>We didnt walk on the moon either did we Ray?
: >
: >Run away, coward.
: >
: >Bush offered $35 million in aid. That's about how much the US spends
: >every 7 hours on Iraq. The world was disgusted. Bush, embarrassed,
: >upped it to $350 million. That's three days of war in Iraq.
: >
: >It's clear where the neocon's priorities are.
: >
: >Killing people.
: Proof?
You'll never geet anything more then a kook talk reply.
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| User: "Frank Pittel" |
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| Title: Re: Bush accused of trying to undermine the UN with aid coalition |
03 Jan 2005 08:48:16 PM |
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In alt.politics.usa.republican Gunner <gunner@lightspeed.net> wrote:
: On Sun, 02 Jan 2005 18:42:56 GMT, (Ray
: Fischer) wrote:
: >Frank Pittel <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote:
: >>In alt.politics.usa.republican Ray Fischer <> wrote:
: >>: Frank Pittel <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote:
: >>: >What the un has decades of experience in is incompetence and corruption
: >>: >combined with no accountability to anyone.
: >>
: >>: The usual right-wing paranoid lunacy.
: >>
: >>Paranoid?? While the US was spending money and risking the lives of military
: >>personal looking for survivors of the tsunomi<SP?> that got washed out to sea
: >
: >Prove it.
: We didnt walk on the moon either did we Ray?
There are a lot of kooks that believe that we never did walk on the moon.
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| User: "Don" |
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| Title: Re: Bush accused of trying to undermine the UN with aid coalition |
05 Jan 2005 11:44:49 PM |
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"Frank Pittel" <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote
There are a lot of kooks that believe that we never did walk on the moon.
Maybe you walked on the moon but I never did.
Or are you stating that you moonwalk?
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| User: "james g. keegan jr." |
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| Title: Re: Bush accused of trying to undermine the UN with aid coalition |
03 Jan 2005 08:59:43 PM |
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Frank Pittel <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote in
news:S8qdnRvGSY5tnkfcRVn-jA@giganews.com:
In alt.politics.usa.republican Gunner <gunner@lightspeed.net> wrote:
: On Sun, 02 Jan 2005 18:42:56 GMT, (Ray
: Fischer) wrote:
: >Frank Pittel <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote:
: >>In alt.politics.usa.republican Ray Fischer
: >><> wrote:
: >>: Frank Pittel <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote:
: >>: >What the un has decades of experience in is incompetence and
: >>: >corruption combined with no accountability to anyone.
: >>
: >>: The usual right-wing paranoid lunacy.
: >>
: >>Paranoid?? While the US was spending money and risking the lives of
: >>military personal looking for survivors of the tsunomi<SP?> that
: >>got washed out to sea
: >
: >Prove it.
: We didnt walk on the moon either did we Ray?
There are a lot of kooks that believe that we never did walk on the
moon.
hell, there are a lot of kooks who believe there were wmds.
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| User: "Gunner" |
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04 Jan 2005 02:06:26 AM |
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On Mon, 03 Jan 2005 20:48:16 -0600, Frank Pittel
<fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote:
In alt.politics.usa.republican Gunner <gunner@lightspeed.net> wrote:
: On Sun, 02 Jan 2005 18:42:56 GMT, (Ray
: Fischer) wrote:
: >Frank Pittel <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote:
: >>In alt.politics.usa.republican Ray Fischer <> wrote:
: >>: Frank Pittel <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote:
: >>: >What the un has decades of experience in is incompetence and corruption
: >>: >combined with no accountability to anyone.
: >>
: >>: The usual right-wing paranoid lunacy.
: >>
: >>Paranoid?? While the US was spending money and risking the lives of military
: >>personal looking for survivors of the tsunomi<SP?> that got washed out to sea
: >
: >Prove it.
: We didnt walk on the moon either did we Ray?
There are a lot of kooks that believe that we never did walk on the moon.
Ask Ray the Felcher his opinion. Im sure he will be glad to
spew..er..give it.
Gunner
It's not unwise to remember that Mother Nature is essentially a
murderous, sneakly, promiscuous ***** who has been trying to kill you
since your conception.
Eventually she will succeed, perhaps with the help of your fellow man.
Life consists in putting off the inevitable as long as possible and
taking what good and joy you can before her success.
Whether you attribute that situation to evolutionary forces, a fallen
nature after Adam and Eve screwed the pooch, or whatever, it's no less true.
Be friendly, pleasant, unaggressive, and honest toward all and be
prepared to ignore, avoid, or even kill anyone who is otherwise toward
you. Being ready doesn't mean eager, just ready. What true friends are
found in life will undestand and accept that fundamental rule of human
interaction." John Husvar
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| User: "Gunner" |
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| Title: Re: Bush accused of trying to undermine the UN with aid coalition |
31 Dec 2004 08:39:05 PM |
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On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 21:48:19 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) wrote:
Frank Pittel <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote:
What the un has decades of experience in is incompetence and corruption
combined with no accountability to anyone.
The usual right-wing paranoid lunacy.
Come on Ray..you can do better than that. Your handlers in the UN are
not getting their moneys worth.
Gunner
"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling
which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight,
nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being
free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."
- John Stewart Mill
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