Religions > Atheism > Bush Apporval Rating Sinks to Record Low (Cue Orange Alert in 3 Days....)
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"Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass" |
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Bush Apporval Rating Sinks to Record Low (Cue Orange Alert in 3 Days....) |
Look at the monkey! Look at the monkey!
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050610/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_ap_ipsos_poll
"Thirty-seven percent support Bush's handling of Social Security,
while 59 percent disapprove. Those numbers haven't budged after more
than four months of the president traveling the country to sell his
plan to create private accounts in Social Security. Support for his
handling of the economy was at 43 percent."
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Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec (aka aka Yang's little poltregeist *****)
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.6 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -1691 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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11 Jun 2005 11:49:05 AM |
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On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:27:54 -0700, "Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine
Snorting *****" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:
Look at the monkey! Look at the monkey!
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050610/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_ap_ipsos_poll
"Thirty-seven percent support Bush's handling of Social Security,
while 59 percent disapprove. Those numbers haven't budged after more
than four months of the president traveling the country to sell his
plan to create private accounts in Social Security. Support for his
handling of the economy was at 43 percent."
He has decided not to run for reelection. And unlike 'rat willie, he's not
rolling over and playing dead but being President. Too bad 'rat willie got blow
jobs while OBL, your uncle, was setting up 911.
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "Jeff Welch" |
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11 Jun 2005 03:22:18 PM |
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
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On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:27:54 -0700, "Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's
Cocaine
He has decided not to run for reelection. And unlike 'rat willie, he's
not
rolling over and playing dead but being President. Too bad 'rat willie
got blow
jobs while OBL, your uncle, was setting up 911.
I'm cure Clinton managed to get oral sex on his own time. Bin Laden was
setting up 911 during the 9 months BUSH was in office you fucking idiot.
-Jeff
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| User: "Bill Walker" |
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11 Jun 2005 04:51:51 PM |
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"Jeff Welch" <seattledemocracy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
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On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:27:54 -0700, "Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's
Cocaine
He has decided not to run for reelection. And unlike 'rat willie, he's
not
rolling over and playing dead but being President. Too bad 'rat willie
got blow
jobs while OBL, your uncle, was setting up 911.
I'm cure Clinton managed to get oral sex on his own time. Bin Laden was
setting up 911 during the 9 months BUSH was in office you fucking idiot.
-Jeff
LOL... It is sure funny how these lame pricks trying to blame Clinton's
***** on 911, all fail to notice that Bush was in the White House for all
that time, before Bin Laden struck.. <chuckle> Just think, if it 911 hadn't
occurred, it is highly doubtful that Bush would have lasted through his
first two years in office, much less a second term..
He's not through this second term, yet.. Chances are, with all the
revelations and exposures during this first year of it, he may not make it
past the second year.. hmmm.. Unless of course.. his good friend Bin Laden
decides to kill another bunch of Americans for him..
Bill Walker
Irving, Tx.
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| User: "R. Pierce Butler" |
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11 Jun 2005 06:23:04 PM |
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"Bill Walker" <bill.walker2@verizon.com> wrote in
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"Jeff Welch" <seattledemocracy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
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On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:27:54 -0700, "Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's
Cocaine
He has decided not to run for reelection. And unlike 'rat willie,
he's not
rolling over and playing dead but being President. Too bad 'rat
willie got blow
jobs while OBL, your uncle, was setting up 911.
I'm cure Clinton managed to get oral sex on his own time. Bin Laden
was setting up 911 during the 9 months BUSH was in office you fucking
idiot.
-Jeff
LOL... It is sure funny how these lame pricks trying to blame Clinton's
***** on 911, all fail to notice that Bush was in the White House for
all that time, before Bin Laden struck.. <chuckle> Just think, if it
911 hadn't occurred, it is highly doubtful that Bush would have lasted
through his first two years in office, much less a second term..
He's not through this second term, yet.. Chances are, with all the
revelations and exposures during this first year of it, he may not make
it past the second year.. hmmm.. Unless of course.. his good friend Bin
Laden decides to kill another bunch of Americans for him..
Bill Walker
Irving, Tx.
Bill,
While your prediction may come true, I don't think it is likely. My
prediction is that most likely there will be an investigation and at the
conclusion there will be no recommendation to impeach. Bush may not be the
brightest star in the sky but he isn't completely stupid either.
rj
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| User: "Sanders Kaufman" |
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11 Jun 2005 08:54:13 PM |
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"R. Pierce Butler" <spamsucks@google.com> wrote in message
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"Bill Walker" <bill.walker2@verizon.com> wrote in
He's not through this second term, yet.. Chances are, with all the
revelations and exposures during this first year of it, he may not make
it past the second year.. hmmm.. Unless of course.. his good friend Bin
Laden decides to kill another bunch of Americans for him..
While your prediction may come true, I don't think it is likely. My
prediction is that most likely there will be an investigation and at the
conclusion there will be no recommendation to impeach. Bush may not be
the
brightest star in the sky but he isn't completely stupid either.
I'm afraid you're correct.
If there's one thing the Clinton impeachment proved - it's that the
Republicans are *determined* to divide Americans against each other.
Refusing to prosecute our "Hitler" would go a long way toward achieving that
goal.
I mean - if the first Oil Crusade gave us Tim McVeigh and Terry Nichols, can
you *imagine* what this new one will do?
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| User: "Bill Walker" |
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11 Jun 2005 11:19:58 PM |
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"R. Pierce Butler" <spamsucks@google.com> wrote in message
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"Bill Walker" <bill.walker2@verizon.com> wrote in
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"Jeff Welch" <seattledemocracy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
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On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:27:54 -0700, "Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's
Cocaine
He has decided not to run for reelection. And unlike 'rat willie,
he's not
rolling over and playing dead but being President. Too bad 'rat
willie got blow
jobs while OBL, your uncle, was setting up 911.
I'm cure Clinton managed to get oral sex on his own time. Bin Laden
was setting up 911 during the 9 months BUSH was in office you fucking
idiot.
-Jeff
LOL... It is sure funny how these lame pricks trying to blame Clinton's
***** on 911, all fail to notice that Bush was in the White House for
all that time, before Bin Laden struck.. <chuckle> Just think, if it
911 hadn't occurred, it is highly doubtful that Bush would have lasted
through his first two years in office, much less a second term..
He's not through this second term, yet.. Chances are, with all the
revelations and exposures during this first year of it, he may not make
it past the second year.. hmmm.. Unless of course.. his good friend Bin
Laden decides to kill another bunch of Americans for him..
Bill Walker
Irving, Tx.
Bill,
While your prediction may come true, I don't think it is likely. My
prediction is that most likely there will be an investigation and at the
conclusion there will be no recommendation to impeach. Bush may not be
the
brightest star in the sky but he isn't completely stupid either.
LOL... nah.. there is a plan.. Bush wasn't the one who devised the plan, but
there is one.. Bush is the instrument that is the perceived leader of the
plan, but he's carefully controlled and programmed.. with occasional
lapses..
The entire life of George Bush has been dedicated to living off of someone
else.. Corruption has always been a part of that life and he has not changed
one damn bit, since becoming president.. The ones around Bush are also
corrupt as he is.. That's where Bush's career will be aborted, just as in
the case of Richard Nixon.. If the opposition to Bush isn't strong enough in
the United States, then it will come from another country.. That process is
already being speculated about and it surrounds ***** Cheney and Halliburton,
for now..
Bill Walker
Irving, Tx.
rj
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| User: "Sanders Kaufman" |
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11 Jun 2005 07:06:52 PM |
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"Bill Walker" <bill.walker2@verizon.com> wrote in message
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He's not through this second term, yet.. Chances are, with all the
revelations and exposures during this first year of it, he may not make it
past the second year.. hmmm.. Unless of course.. his good friend Bin Laden
decides to kill another bunch of Americans for him..
It's a sure bet that when Bush is gone, bin Laden will remain in power.
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| User: "c" |
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11 Jun 2005 06:55:55 PM |
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He has decided not to run for reelection. And unlike 'rat willie, he's
not
rolling over and playing dead but being President. Too bad 'rat willie
got blow
jobs while OBL, your uncle, was setting up 911.
I'm cure Clinton managed to get oral sex on his own time. Bin Laden was
setting up 911 during the 9 months BUSH was in office you fucking idiot.
As usual, there's the party line and a person is a "fucking idiot" if they
don't just buy it, hook line and sinker and regurgitate it on demand.
Of course Bin Ladin was setting up 911 during the time Bush was in office;
but *most* of the planning, training and placement of the "planes operation"
happened while Clinton was in office. It's Bush *and* Clinton; not Bush
*or* Clinton ferchrissake. It's very well documented. But, hey, that's not
part of either party line, now is it?
All references are from the 9/11 Commission Report.
"Bin Ladin summoned [Khalid Sheikh Mohammad] to Kandahar in March or April
1999 to tell him that al Qaeda would support his proposal. The plot was now
referred to within al Qaeda as the "planes operation (154)."
"In the fall of 1999, the four operatives selected by Bin Ladin for the
planes operation were chosen to attend an elite training course at Qaeda's
Mes Aynak camp in Afghanistan (156)."
"Upon completing the advanced training at Mes Aynak [...] KSM instructed
them on Western culture and travel. [ ...] He collected Western aviation
magazines [...] and he conducted internet searches for U.S. flight schools.
He also purchased flight simulator software and a few movies depicting
hijackings (157)."
"On December 31, [1999] Khalid flew [...] aboard a U.S. airliner. [He
tested] security by carrying a box cutter in his toiletries kit onto the
flight. On this flight, Khalid [...] then got up and removed the kit from
his carry-on (158-159)."
"In March, 2000, Atta emailed 31 different flight schools (168)."
"By late May, 2000, two operatives assigned to the planes operation were
already in the United States (173)."
"According to the [San Diego] homeowner, the future hijackers moved in on
May 10, 2000 (220)."
"Mohdar Abdullah [...] assisted them in obtaining California diver's
licenses and with applying to language and flight schools (220)."
"[Prior to May, 2000] a pilot they consulted at one school, the Sorbi Flying
Club in San Diego [...] explained that their flight instruction would begin
with small planes. Hazmi and Midhar emphasized their interest in learning
to fly jets, Boeing aircraft in particular, and asked where they might
enroll to train on jets right away (221)"
"By the early summer of 2000, the Hamburg group arrived in the United States
to begin flight training (223)."
"Jarrah arrived in Newark on June 27 and then flew to Venice. He
immediately began the private pilot program at FFTC, intending to get a
multi-engine license (224)."
"Atta and Shehi finished up at Hoffman and earned their instrument
certificates from the FAA in November. In mid-December 2000, they passed
their commercial pilot tests and received their licenses (227)."
"By the end of 2000, the three pilots on the East Coast were simulating
flights on large jets (227)."
"The muscle hijackers returned to Afghanistan for special training in late
2000 or early 2001. [...] Abu Turab had the trainees butcher a sheep and a
camel with a knife to prepare to use knives during the hijackings (236)"
George W. Bush inaugurated President of the United States, January 20, 2001.
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12 Jun 2005 01:11:20 AM |
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"c" <me@my.nett> wrote in message news:%sGqe.1411$tY4.1249@
George W. Bush inaugurated President of the United States, January 20,
2001.
And soon after, got down to some *serious* vacationing...
http://slate.msn.com/id/2098861/
and
07 Aug 2001 21:56:27 From Reuters News Service
Bush Defends Spending Month on Vacation By Steve Holland
WACO, Texas (Reuters) - President Bush on Tuesday launched a vigorous
defense of his decision to spend a month on vacation away from Washington
as a poll reported a solid majority of Americans think 30 days is too long.
``Washington D.C. is a fine place, and I'm honored to be working in the
Oval Office and staying in the compound there. But I'm the kind of person
that needs to get outdoors ... It keeps my mind whole, keeps my spirits
up,'' Bush told reporters.
He was speaking shortly after daybreak, the rising sun a red yolk on the
horizon, as he prepared to tee off on a round of golf at Ridgewood Country
Club. It was the first time he emerged from his Prairie Chapel ranch since
arriving in sun-stroked central Texas last Saturday.
A USA Today/CNN/Gallup poll released on Monday said 55 percent of Americans
surveyed believe Bush's vacation was too long, compared to 42 percent who
believe it was not.
Katt.
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11 Jun 2005 08:54:13 PM |
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"c" <me@my.nett> wrote in message news:%sGqe.1411$tY4.1249@trnddc06...
Of course Bin Ladin was setting up 911 during the time Bush was in office;
but *most* of the planning, training and placement of the "planes
operation" happened while Clinton was in office.
I've often wondered why the Republicans chose to attack the President,
instead of bin Laden.
I mean, here we have Clinton working his ***** off to get bin Laden...
and the Republicans were all "we don't care about bin Laden".
It's Bush *and* Clinton; not Bush *or* Clinton ferchrissake. It's very
well documented. But, hey, that's not part of either party line, now is
it?
That's because Clinton actually fought the fight against bin Laden.
Bush did not.
Your attempts below to blame Clinton for Bush's failure are idiotic.
They all assume that Clinton knew every order bin Laden gave.
That's partisan based idiocy.
"Bin Ladin summoned [Khalid Sheikh Mohammad] to Kandahar in March or April
1999 to tell him that al Qaeda would support his proposal. The plot was
now referred to within al Qaeda as the "planes operation (154)."
"In the fall of 1999, the four operatives selected by Bin Ladin for the
planes operation were chosen to attend an elite training course at Qaeda's
Mes Aynak camp in Afghanistan (156)."
"Upon completing the advanced training at Mes Aynak [...] KSM instructed
them on Western culture and travel. [ ...] He collected Western aviation
magazines [...] and he conducted internet searches for U.S. flight
schools. He also purchased flight simulator software and a few movies
depicting hijackings (157)."
"On December 31, [1999] Khalid flew [...] aboard a U.S. airliner. [He
tested] security by carrying a box cutter in his toiletries kit onto the
flight. On this flight, Khalid [...] then got up and removed the kit from
his carry-on (158-159)."
"In March, 2000, Atta emailed 31 different flight schools (168)."
"By late May, 2000, two operatives assigned to the planes operation were
already in the United States (173)."
"According to the [San Diego] homeowner, the future hijackers moved in on
May 10, 2000 (220)."
"Mohdar Abdullah [...] assisted them in obtaining California diver's
licenses and with applying to language and flight schools (220)."
"[Prior to May, 2000] a pilot they consulted at one school, the Sorbi
Flying Club in San Diego [...] explained that their flight instruction
would begin with small planes. Hazmi and Midhar emphasized their interest
in learning to fly jets, Boeing aircraft in particular, and asked where
they might enroll to train on jets right away (221)"
"By the early summer of 2000, the Hamburg group arrived in the United
States to begin flight training (223)."
"Jarrah arrived in Newark on June 27 and then flew to Venice. He
immediately began the private pilot program at FFTC, intending to get a
multi-engine license (224)."
"Atta and Shehi finished up at Hoffman and earned their instrument
certificates from the FAA in November. In mid-December 2000, they passed
their commercial pilot tests and received their licenses (227)."
"By the end of 2000, the three pilots on the East Coast were simulating
flights on large jets (227)."
"The muscle hijackers returned to Afghanistan for special training in late
2000 or early 2001. [...] Abu Turab had the trainees butcher a sheep and
a camel with a knife to prepare to use knives during the hijackings (236)"
George W. Bush inaugurated President of the United States, January 20,
2001.
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| User: "Jeff Welch" |
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11 Jun 2005 07:02:18 PM |
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"c" <me@my.nett> wrote in message news:%sGqe.1411$tY4.1249@trnddc06...
I'm cure Clinton managed to get oral sex on his own time. Bin Laden was
setting up 911 during the 9 months BUSH was in office you fucking idiot.
As usual, there's the party line and a person is a "fucking idiot" if they
don't just buy it, hook line and sinker and regurgitate it on demand.
There's nothing to "buy" here. Bin Laden WAS setting up 911 while Bush was
in office. Blaming Clinton for 911 is pretty fucking stupid and would only
be done by a fucking idiot. That isn't a "party line" - I don't represent
any "party" other than myself. It's simply a fact.
-Jeff
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| User: "c" |
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11 Jun 2005 07:59:19 PM |
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I'm cure Clinton managed to get oral sex on his own time. Bin Laden was
setting up 911 during the 9 months BUSH was in office you fucking idiot.
As usual, there's the party line and a person is a "fucking idiot" if
they don't just buy it, hook line and sinker and regurgitate it on
demand.
There's nothing to "buy" here. Bin Laden WAS setting up 911 while Bush
was in office. Blaming Clinton for 911 is pretty fucking stupid and would
only be done by a fucking idiot. That isn't a "party line" - I don't
represent any "party" other than myself. It's simply a fact.
I'll take that as a tacit agreement that you acknowledge Bin Ladin WAS
setting up 911 while Clinton was in office, and in fact most of the
planning, training and placement of the hijackers was done then -- that it's
simply a fact. Okay, we agree. Blaming neither Clinton nor Bush indicates
a disconnect with reality. Blaming Clinton exclusively is stupid and
reflects a right-wing party line. Blaming Bush exclusively is stupid and
reflects a left-wing party line. Blaming Clinton *and* Bush is not stupid;
there is plenty of blame to go around.
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| User: "Jeff Welch" |
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11 Jun 2005 08:55:12 PM |
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"c" <me@my.nett> wrote in message news:roHqe.2101$9a1.1310@trnddc01...
There's nothing to "buy" here. Bin Laden WAS setting up 911 while Bush
was in office.
I'll take that as a tacit agreement that you acknowledge Bin Ladin WAS
setting up 911 while Clinton was in office
Bin Laden was up to a lot of no-good murderous ***** while Clinton was in
office - and has been since Bush has been in office. Is still today.
Your point is what?
-Jeff
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| User: "Sanders Kaufman" |
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11 Jun 2005 08:54:13 PM |
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"c" <me@my.nett> wrote in message news:roHqe.2101$9a1.1310@trnddc01...
There's nothing to "buy" here. Bin Laden WAS setting up 911 while Bush
was in office. Blaming Clinton for 911 is pretty fucking stupid and
would only be done by a fucking idiot. That isn't a "party line" - I
don't represent any "party" other than myself. It's simply a fact.
I'll take that as a tacit agreement that you acknowledge Bin Ladin WAS
Get a dictionary, dumbass Clinton-basher.
It wasn't just "tacit" agreement - he SAID it.
I know you heard the word "tacit", thought it sounded impressive and decided
to be impressive, too.
But when you use it like that, to defend a stupid idea, the impression is
that you're an dumbass.
Blaming Bush exclusively is stupid and reflects a left-wing party line.
Blaming Clinton *and* Bush is not stupid; there is plenty of blame to go
around.
They're different kinds of "blame".
Clinton is to blame for not overcoming the "Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy".
Bush is to blame for BEING the "Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy".
You might just as well blame a rape victim for being raped as to blame
Clinton for 9/11.
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| User: "c" |
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12 Jun 2005 07:09:07 AM |
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There's nothing to "buy" here. Bin Laden WAS setting up 911 while Bush
was in office. Blaming Clinton for 911 is pretty fucking stupid and
would only be done by a fucking idiot. That isn't a "party line" - I
don't represent any "party" other than myself. It's simply a fact.
I'll take that as a tacit agreement that you acknowledge Bin Ladin WAS
Get a dictionary, dumbass Clinton-basher.
It wasn't just "tacit" agreement - he SAID it.
I know you heard the word "tacit", thought it sounded impressive and
decided to be impressive, too.
But when you use it like that, to defend a stupid idea, the impression is
that you're an dumbass.
One of these days, I hope the Democratic Party is going to figure it out and
summarily eject you vile, vulgar, intolerant, fanatic troglodytes. I will
then be happy to call myself a liberal Democrat again. There are some
hopeful signs right now. Until then I will continue to be saddened by
reflecting on the fact that when I was growing up in the South in the
fifties and sixties we had lots of people like you around. They used to get
liquored up and dressed in pretty white sheets and ride around town in
pickup trucks, brandishing shotguns and impressing the local folk with their
command of ideas, language and tolerance. They weren't Democrats. Now you
are. Now I'm not. Now most people aren't, or at least won't admit it in
polite company. The really frustrating part is that you can't see the
connection; and people like you think the answer is to be even more vile,
vulgar, fanatic, intolerant, ignorant and coarse.
Blaming Bush exclusively is stupid and reflects a left-wing party line.
Blaming Clinton *and* Bush is not stupid; there is plenty of blame to go
around.
They're different kinds of "blame".
Clinton is to blame for not overcoming the "Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy".
Bush is to blame for BEING the "Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy".
You might just as well blame a rape victim for being raped as to blame
Clinton for 9/11.
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12 Jun 2005 05:20:39 PM |
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"c" <me@my.nett> wrote in message news:ncRqe.3164$9a1.968@trnddc01...
Get a dictionary, dumbass Clinton-basher.
It wasn't just "tacit" agreement - he SAID it.
I know you heard the word "tacit", thought it sounded impressive and
decided to be impressive, too.
But when you use it like that, to defend a stupid idea, the impression is
that you're an dumbass.
One of these days, I hope the Democratic Party is going to figure it out
and summarily eject you vile, vulgar, intolerant, fanatic troglodytes.
You're an idiot.
I'm a Conservative Republican.
Always have been; always will be.
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12 Jun 2005 07:08:00 PM |
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Sanders Kaufman, Jr.
Sanders "Bucky" Kaufman is an experienced Web and network applications
developer who contracts his services out through TKN (www.kaufman.net).
He is also a substitute teacher for Dallas Schools, a published author
and journalist, and a frequent contributor to Builder.com.
"Sanders Kaufman" <unsentt@kaufman.net> wrote in message
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: "c" <me@my.nett> wrote in message news:ncRqe.3164$9a1.968@trnddc01...
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: >> Get a dictionary, dumbass Clinton-basher.
: >> It wasn't just "tacit" agreement - he SAID it.
: >> I know you heard the word "tacit", thought it sounded impressive
and
: >> decided to be impressive, too.
: >> But when you use it like that, to defend a stupid idea, the
impression is
: >> that you're an dumbass.
: >
: > One of these days, I hope the Democratic Party is going to figure it
out
: > and summarily eject you vile, vulgar, intolerant, fanatic
troglodytes.
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: You're an idiot.
: I'm a Conservative Republican.
: Always have been; always will be.
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| User: "Sanders Kaufman" |
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12 Jun 2005 08:05:58 PM |
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"ריעין ברתון/Riain Barton" <riain@zion.org.il> wrote in message
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Sanders Kaufman, Jr.
Sanders "Bucky" Kaufman is an experienced Web and network applications
developer who contracts his services out through TKN (www.kaufman.net).
He is also a substitute teacher for Dallas Schools, a published author
and journalist, and a frequent contributor to Builder.com.
Oh no!
The information I put out there for all the world to see is getting out.
Oh no!
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"There is no such thing as bad publicity" - Mark Twain.
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| User: "The Mysterious Limestone Cowboy" |
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12 Jun 2005 10:59:38 PM |
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Gosh, you think his approval rating might get so low he can't get
re-elected? Again? You guys need to find you a new game. This "my crook is
better than your crook" stuff is not going to get you anywhere.
--
If you ain't got nothing worth dying for,
then you ain't got nothing worth living for.
TMLC
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| User: "Bill Walker" |
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11 Jun 2005 11:33:19 PM |
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"c" <me@my.nett> wrote in message news:roHqe.2101$9a1.1310@trnddc01...
I'm cure Clinton managed to get oral sex on his own time. Bin Laden
was setting up 911 during the 9 months BUSH was in office you fucking
idiot.
As usual, there's the party line and a person is a "fucking idiot" if
they don't just buy it, hook line and sinker and regurgitate it on
demand.
There's nothing to "buy" here. Bin Laden WAS setting up 911 while Bush
was in office. Blaming Clinton for 911 is pretty fucking stupid and
would only be done by a fucking idiot. That isn't a "party line" - I
don't represent any "party" other than myself. It's simply a fact.
I'll take that as a tacit agreement that you acknowledge Bin Ladin WAS
setting up 911 while Clinton was in office, and in fact most of the
planning, training and placement of the hijackers was done then -- that
it's simply a fact. Okay, we agree. Blaming neither Clinton nor Bush
indicates a disconnect with reality. Blaming Clinton exclusively is
stupid and reflects a right-wing party line. Blaming Bush exclusively is
stupid and reflects a left-wing party line. Blaming Clinton *and* Bush is
not stupid; there is plenty of blame to go around.
Why didn't Bin Laden strike while Clinton was in office ? He waited
patiently until Bush had been in office for almost nine months.. Strange ?
You bet.. The Bin Laden family has been too closely associated with the Bush
family, for too long.. Many of those family members were visiting in the
United States during this time and the Bush administration accommodated
their evacuation following the attacks.. Common knowledge of facts.. Connect
the dots and it isn't a stretch to resolve that Bin Laden was not about to
attack us while Clinton was in office.. Too many members of his family would
have been facing prosecution, or at the least .. hard and embarrassing
questions, that would exposed this Bush family for what it really is..
Bill Walker
Irving, Tx.
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| User: "Tim Crowley" |
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12 Jun 2005 01:25:18 AM |
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Jeff Welch wrote:
"c" <me@my.nett> wrote in message news:%sGqe.1411$tY4.1249@trnddc06...
I'm cure Clinton managed to get oral sex on his own time. Bin Laden was
setting up 911 during the 9 months BUSH was in office you fucking idiot.
As usual, there's the party line and a person is a "fucking idiot" if they
don't just buy it, hook line and sinker and regurgitate it on demand.
There's nothing to "buy" here. Bin Laden WAS setting up 911 while Bush was
in office. Blaming Clinton for 911 is pretty fucking stupid and would only
be done by a fucking idiot. That isn't a "party line" - I don't represent
any "party" other than myself. It's simply a fact.
Blaming either Clinton or Bush for 911 is folly. You blame those
responsible for crimes, not the victims. But you DO hold people
responsible for how they react. Hold Bin Laden responsible for his
crimes, Clinton for his and Bush's for his. All three of them are
murderous bastards as far as I am concerned.
-Jeff
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| User: "Bill Walker" |
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11 Jun 2005 11:27:04 PM |
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"c" <me@my.nett> wrote in message news:%sGqe.1411$tY4.1249@trnddc06...
He has decided not to run for reelection. And unlike 'rat willie, he's
not
rolling over and playing dead but being President. Too bad 'rat willie
got blow
jobs while OBL, your uncle, was setting up 911.
I'm cure Clinton managed to get oral sex on his own time. Bin Laden was
setting up 911 during the 9 months BUSH was in office you fucking idiot.
As usual, there's the party line and a person is a "fucking idiot" if they
don't just buy it, hook line and sinker and regurgitate it on demand.
Of course Bin Ladin was setting up 911 during the time Bush was in office;
but *most* of the planning, training and placement of the "planes
operation" happened while Clinton was in office. It's Bush *and* Clinton;
not Bush *or* Clinton ferchrissake. It's very well documented. But, hey,
that's not part of either party line, now is it?
All references are from the 9/11 Commission Report.
"Bin Ladin summoned [Khalid Sheikh Mohammad] to Kandahar in March or April
1999 to tell him that al Qaeda would support his proposal. The plot was
now referred to within al Qaeda as the "planes operation (154)."
"In the fall of 1999, the four operatives selected by Bin Ladin for the
planes operation were chosen to attend an elite training course at Qaeda's
Mes Aynak camp in Afghanistan (156)."
"Upon completing the advanced training at Mes Aynak [...] KSM instructed
them on Western culture and travel. [ ...] He collected Western aviation
magazines [...] and he conducted internet searches for U.S. flight
schools. He also purchased flight simulator software and a few movies
depicting hijackings (157)."
"On December 31, [1999] Khalid flew [...] aboard a U.S. airliner. [He
tested] security by carrying a box cutter in his toiletries kit onto the
flight. On this flight, Khalid [...] then got up and removed the kit from
his carry-on (158-159)."
"In March, 2000, Atta emailed 31 different flight schools (168)."
"By late May, 2000, two operatives assigned to the planes operation were
already in the United States (173)."
"According to the [San Diego] homeowner, the future hijackers moved in on
May 10, 2000 (220)."
"Mohdar Abdullah [...] assisted them in obtaining California diver's
licenses and with applying to language and flight schools (220)."
"[Prior to May, 2000] a pilot they consulted at one school, the Sorbi
Flying Club in San Diego [...] explained that their flight instruction
would begin with small planes. Hazmi and Midhar emphasized their interest
in learning to fly jets, Boeing aircraft in particular, and asked where
they might enroll to train on jets right away (221)"
"By the early summer of 2000, the Hamburg group arrived in the United
States to begin flight training (223)."
"Jarrah arrived in Newark on June 27 and then flew to Venice. He
immediately began the private pilot program at FFTC, intending to get a
multi-engine license (224)."
"Atta and Shehi finished up at Hoffman and earned their instrument
certificates from the FAA in November. In mid-December 2000, they passed
their commercial pilot tests and received their licenses (227)."
"By the end of 2000, the three pilots on the East Coast were simulating
flights on large jets (227)."
"The muscle hijackers returned to Afghanistan for special training in late
2000 or early 2001. [...] Abu Turab had the trainees butcher a sheep and
a camel with a knife to prepare to use knives during the hijackings (236)"
George W. Bush inaugurated President of the United States, January 20,
2001.
And that was almost nine full months before Bin Laden struck the U.S. The
quotes that you have just shared, by the 911 Commission is considered one of
the most outrageous and contradictory reports we've ever seen.. It is
considered to be a whitewash for this administration..
On the one hand it points out many mistakes in intelligence and failures to
observe what was actually going on with the agencies involved.. Yet .. it
continues to make clear that the heads of those agencies and the ones
responsible for them are not negligent.. That is complete nonsense.. the
ones in charge failed to perform.. they are all still in place and most of
them have been promoted to higher positions.. Not one of them has been
disciplined for their failures and not one of them have been removed from
their appointed offices..
Bill Walker
Irving, Tx.
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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11 Jun 2005 07:20:43 PM |
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c wrote:
He has decided not to run for reelection. And unlike 'rat willie, he's
not
rolling over and playing dead but being President. Too bad 'rat willie
got blow
jobs while OBL, your uncle, was setting up 911.
I'm cure Clinton managed to get oral sex on his own time. Bin Laden was
setting up 911 during the 9 months BUSH was in office you fucking idiot.
As usual, there's the party line and a person is a "fucking idiot" if they
don't just buy it, hook line and sinker and regurgitate it on demand.
And, of cource, Clinton had OBL as top priority. What was top-priority
after Bush got into power? Why, Clinton stole all the Ws from the White
House computers, of course! Also, on the Bush agenda? Operation: Vacation.
What was CNN all aflutter about on August 7, 2001 (the day after
Clarke's "August 6 PDB")? "Bush vacation puts spotlight on tiny Crawford"
http://archives.cnn.com/2001/ALLPOLITICS/08/06/bush.crawford/
Of course Bin Ladin was setting up 911 during the time Bush was in office;
but *most* of the planning, training and placement of the "planes operation"
happened while Clinton was in office. It's Bush *and* Clinton; not Bush
*or* Clinton ferchrissake. It's very well documented. But, hey, that's not
part of either party line, now is it?
Sure is. See, Clinton was concerned about OBL. Starr (as well as Fox
News, CNN, etc.) was concerned about a cigar. Bush was concerned, after
getting into office, about Iraq, Social Security, and those danged dirty
gophers.
Which was the correct concenr?
All references are from the 9/11 Commission Report.
"Bin Ladin summoned [Khalid Sheikh Mohammad] to Kandahar in March or April
1999 to tell him that al Qaeda would support his proposal. The plot was now
referred to within al Qaeda as the "planes operation (154)."
"In the fall of 1999, the four operatives selected by Bin Ladin for the
planes operation were chosen to attend an elite training course at Qaeda's
Mes Aynak camp in Afghanistan (156)."
"Upon completing the advanced training at Mes Aynak [...] KSM instructed
them on Western culture and travel. [ ...] He collected Western aviation
magazines [...] and he conducted internet searches for U.S. flight schools.
He also purchased flight simulator software and a few movies depicting
hijackings (157)."
"On December 31, [1999] Khalid flew [...] aboard a U.S. airliner. [He
tested] security by carrying a box cutter in his toiletries kit onto the
flight. On this flight, Khalid [...] then got up and removed the kit from
his carry-on (158-159)."
"In March, 2000, Atta emailed 31 different flight schools (168)."
"By late May, 2000, two operatives assigned to the planes operation were
already in the United States (173)."
"According to the [San Diego] homeowner, the future hijackers moved in on
May 10, 2000 (220)."
"Mohdar Abdullah [...] assisted them in obtaining California diver's
licenses and with applying to language and flight schools (220)."
"[Prior to May, 2000] a pilot they consulted at one school, the Sorbi Flying
Club in San Diego [...] explained that their flight instruction would begin
with small planes. Hazmi and Midhar emphasized their interest in learning
to fly jets, Boeing aircraft in particular, and asked where they might
enroll to train on jets right away (221)"
"By the early summer of 2000, the Hamburg group arrived in the United States
to begin flight training (223)."
"Jarrah arrived in Newark on June 27 and then flew to Venice. He
immediately began the private pilot program at FFTC, intending to get a
multi-engine license (224)."
"Atta and Shehi finished up at Hoffman and earned their instrument
certificates from the FAA in November. In mid-December 2000, they passed
their commercial pilot tests and received their licenses (227)."
"By the end of 2000, the three pilots on the East Coast were simulating
flights on large jets (227)."
"The muscle hijackers returned to Afghanistan for special training in late
2000 or early 2001. [...] Abu Turab had the trainees butcher a sheep and a
camel with a knife to prepare to use knives during the hijackings (236)"
George W. Bush inaugurated President of the United States, January 20, 2001.
And?
"We haven't heard much from him. And I wouldn't necessarily say he's at
the center of any command structure. And, again, I don't know where he
is. I'll repeat what I said. I truly am not that concerned about him. I
know he is on the run.
"I was concerned about him when he had taken over a country. I was
concerned about the fact that he was basically running Afghanistan and
calling the shots for the Taliban. But once we set out the policy and
started executing the plan, he became - we shoved him out more and more
on the margins. He has no place to train his Al Qaeda killers anymore."
President Bush, 6 months after 9/11, returning to his pre-9/11 stance:
Not concerned about OBL.
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| User: "duke" |
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11 Jun 2005 10:54:40 PM |
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On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 08:22:18 -0700, "Jeff Welch" <seattledemocracy@hotmail.com>
wrote:
I'm cure Clinton managed to get oral sex on his own time. Bin Laden was
setting up 911 during the 9 months BUSH was in office you fucking idiot.
-Jeff
1. How "cure" are you that it was not in the oval office?
2. OBL was at it for years before Bush came to office, and it was 'rat willie's
FBI that blew it from the get-go.
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "Sanders Kaufman" |
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12 Jun 2005 05:20:30 PM |
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
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On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 08:22:18 -0700, "Jeff Welch"
<seattledemocracy@hotmail.com>
2. OBL was at it for years before Bush came to office, and it was 'rat
willie's
FBI that blew it from the get-go.
Actually, Clinton was *very* effective at fighting against al Quaeda.
He killed some, and put others in prison.
Because BUSH gave up that fight, 9/11 happened.
You can deny it to yourself, and you can deny it in public.
But you and I both know I'm right.
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| User: "duke" |
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13 Jun 2005 11:12:44 AM |
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On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 17:20:30 GMT, "Sanders Kaufman" <unsentt@kaufman.net> wrote:
Actually, Clinton was *very* effective at fighting against al Quaeda.
He killed some, and put others in prison.
Eight times the US was attacked, from embassies to ships, and eight times 'rat
willie said we would find out who did this and take care of them and eight times
he did nothing but get a *****.
Because BUSH gave up that fight, 9/11 happened.
'rat willie's FBI was asleep at the wheel.
You can deny it to yourself, and you can deny it in public.
But you and I both know I'm right.
Not a chance.
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "Sanders Kaufman" |
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13 Jun 2005 09:25:45 PM |
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
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On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 17:20:30 GMT, "Sanders Kaufman" <unsentt@kaufman.net>
wrote:
Actually, Clinton was *very* effective at fighting against al Quaeda.
He killed some, and put others in prison.
Eight times the US was attacked, from embassies to ships, and eight times
'rat
willie said we would find out who did this and take care of them and eight
times
he did nothing but get a *****.
He DID find out who did it.
And then his time in office ran out.
It was up to Bush to finish the job - so important to Americans.
He chose not to - and you attack Clinton for it.
Blame whoever you like - but as long as Bush is in office, and continues to
ignore al Quaeda, they will continue to attack us.
That's why all those soldiers are going to have to die tonight.
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| User: "duke" |
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14 Jun 2005 12:20:49 AM |
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On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:25:45 GMT, "Sanders Kaufman" <unsentt@kaufman.net> wrote:
Actually, Clinton was *very* effective at fighting against al Quaeda.
He killed some, and put others in prison.
Eight times the US was attacked, from embassies to ships, and eight times
'rat
willie said we would find out who did this and take care of them and eight
times
he did nothing but get a *****.
He DID find out who did it.
And then his time in office ran out.
It was up to Bush to finish the job - so important to Americans.
He chose not to - and you attack Clinton for it.
Sure he found out who did it, 3 years before he left office, but blowjobs were
more important.
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "Sanders Kaufman" |
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14 Jun 2005 12:26:48 AM |
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
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On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:25:45 GMT, "Sanders Kaufman" <unsentt@kaufman.net>
wrote:
He DID find out who did it.
And then his time in office ran out.
It was up to Bush to finish the job - so important to Americans.
He chose not to - and you attack Clinton for it.
Sure he found out who did it, 3 years before he left office, but blowjobs
were
more important.
I've often wondered why the BlowJobs were so much more important to the
Republican Congress than al Quaeda.
Now we know.
The Republians have nothing against militant religious freaks.
That's why all those soldiers are going to have to die tonight.
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| User: "duke" |
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14 Jun 2005 10:47:57 AM |
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On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 00:26:48 GMT, "Sanders Kaufman" <unsentt@kaufman.net> wrote:
I've often wondered why the BlowJobs were so much more important to the
Republican Congress than al Quaeda.
Now we know.
The Republians have nothing against militant religious freaks.
That's why all those soldiers are going to have to die tonight.
Too bad 'rat willie didn't do his job, unless of course it was to get blow jobs.
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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