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29 Jun 2005 12:09:22 AM |
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Bush Declares Sacrifice in Iraq to Be 'Worth It' |
Doesn't sound like Mr. Bush plans on bringing our troops home anytime
soon. Get ready for Jeb in 2008.
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/29/politics/29prexy.html?hp&ex=1120104000&en=01a60703b5ae27e5&ei=5094&partner=homepage
Bush Declares Sacrifice in Iraq to Be 'Worth It'
FORT BRAGG, N.C., June 28 - President Bush, facing a growing
restiveness around the country and in his own party over the constant
stream of casualties in Iraq, declared Tuesday night that the daily
sacrifice of American lives in Iraq "is worth it, and it is vital to
the future security of our country."
Members of the 82nd Airborne Division at Fort Bragg, N.C., Tuesday
night during President Bush's address on the war on terrorism. He gave
no timetable for American withdrawal.
In an address to the nation from this Army base, in front of 750
members of the 82nd Airborne Division and the Army's Special Operations
unit based here, Mr. Bush spoke in somber tones of the need for staying
power in what has become a long conflict in Iraq. As he has in the
past, the president melded the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks with
the enemies Americans now face in Iraq.
Mr. Bush gave no timetables for American withdrawal other than an
assurance that "as the Iraqis stand up, we will stand down."
While offering no new strategies in a war that has now stretched for 25
months, with no diminishing of attacks on American forces, he explained
that he would not send more troops to face the insurgency in Iraq,
unless asked by commanders there, because it would "undermine our
strategy of encouraging Iraqis to take the lead in this fight."
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29 Jun 2005 09:26:19 PM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
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Mickey <mickeyb@comcast.net> wrote:
"magilla" <chris.linthompson@gmail.com> wrote in message
Mickey wrote:
Yeah, the Saudi royal family really has to go, the problem is that to
remove
them is to invite Islamic extremeists into power.
Um. Which Saudi Royal Family are you talking about? There must be more
than one, since the one I know about is already a bunch of Islamic
extremists. The Saudi Royal Family I know about recently had an
"election" and banned half the adult population from voting. That's
"extremist" in my book.
Fair enough. In any case, they really need to be dealt with.
Poland, then Belgium, and Austria, and France, and then Britain ...
Nope, democracies, no need to bother them. Just all the brutal dictatorships
currently oppressing in the middle-east
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| Title: Re: Bush Declares Sacrifice in Iraq to Be 'Worth It' |
30 Jun 2005 11:42:01 PM |
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Mickey <mickeyb@comcast.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
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Mickey <mickeyb@comcast.net> wrote:
"magilla" <chris.linthompson@gmail.com> wrote in message
Mickey wrote:
Yeah, the Saudi royal family really has to go, the problem is that to
remove
them is to invite Islamic extremeists into power.
Um. Which Saudi Royal Family are you talking about? There must be more
than one, since the one I know about is already a bunch of Islamic
extremists. The Saudi Royal Family I know about recently had an
"election" and banned half the adult population from voting. That's
"extremist" in my book.
Fair enough. In any case, they really need to be dealt with.
Poland, then Belgium, and Austria, and France, and then Britain ...
Nope, democracies, no need to bother them.
Not too smart, are you?
Just all the brutal dictatorships
currently oppressing in the middle-east
Kill millions of people that you don't like.
Been there, done that. Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot, Idi Amin, Mao.
They all had really good reasons why millions of people should die.
Just like you.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "ריעין ברתון/Riain Barton" |
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01 Jul 2005 01:18:19 AM |
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REALITY CHECK! 21st CENTURY, not 19th Century!!!!!!!!!
Get off your fucking high-horse!
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
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: Mickey <mickeyb@comcast.net> wrote:
: >"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
: >news:da25e5$p9s$1@bolt.sonic.net...
: >> Mickey <mickeyb@comcast.net> wrote:
: >> >"magilla" <chris.linthompson@gmail.com> wrote in message
: >> >> Mickey wrote:
: >>
: >> >> > Yeah, the Saudi royal family really has to go, the problem is
that to
: >> >remove
: >> >> > them is to invite Islamic extremeists into power.
: >> >>
: >> >> Um. Which Saudi Royal Family are you talking about? There must
be more
: >> >> than one, since the one I know about is already a bunch of
Islamic
: >> >> extremists. The Saudi Royal Family I know about recently had an
: >> >> "election" and banned half the adult population from voting.
That's
: >> >> "extremist" in my book.
: >> >
: >> >Fair enough. In any case, they really need to be dealt with.
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: >> Poland, then Belgium, and Austria, and France, and then Britain ...
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: >Nope, democracies, no need to bother them.
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: Not too smart, are you?
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: > Just all the brutal dictatorships
: >currently oppressing in the middle-east
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: Kill millions of people that you don't like.
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: Been there, done that. Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot, Idi Amin, Mao.
: They all had really good reasons why millions of people should die.
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: Just like you.
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: Ray Fischer
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| User: "Conrad" |
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02 Jul 2005 01:08:58 AM |
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Reality check yourself, sir. Those who do not learn from the past are
condemned to repeat it, and the past Ray is referring to is Hitler's
"justification" for invading non-threatening nations. Which, for your
edification occured within the 20th century, not the 19th - well within
the lifetime of many living today - like papa Bush.
Cheers,
Conrad
On Fri, 01 Jul 2005 09:18:19 +0300, ריעין ברתון/Riain Barton
wrote:
REALITY CHECK! 21st CENTURY, not 19th Century!!!!!!!!!
Get off your fucking high-horse!
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:da2hio$6bl$1@bolt.sonic.net...
: Mickey <mickeyb@comcast.net> wrote:
: >"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
: >news:da25e5$p9s$1@bolt.sonic.net...
: >> Mickey <mickeyb@comcast.net> wrote:
: >> >"magilla" <chris.linthompson@gmail.com> wrote in message
: >> >> Mickey wrote:
: >>
: >> >> > Yeah, the Saudi royal family really has to go, the problem is
that to
: >> >remove
: >> >> > them is to invite Islamic extremeists into power.
: >> >>
: >> >> Um. Which Saudi Royal Family are you talking about? There must
be more
: >> >> than one, since the one I know about is already a bunch of
Islamic
: >> >> extremists. The Saudi Royal Family I know about recently had an
: >> >> "election" and banned half the adult population from voting.
That's
: >> >> "extremist" in my book.
: >> >
: >> >Fair enough. In any case, they really need to be dealt with.
: >>
: >> Poland, then Belgium, and Austria, and France, and then Britain ...
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: >Nope, democracies, no need to bother them.
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: Not too smart, are you?
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: > Just all the brutal dictatorships
: >currently oppressing in the middle-east
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: Kill millions of people that you don't like.
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: Been there, done that. Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot, Idi Amin, Mao.
: They all had really good reasons why millions of people should die.
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: Just like you.
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: Ray Fischer
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| User: "ריעין ברתון/Riain Barton" |
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01 Jul 2005 01:17:27 AM |
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You really think that you can even begin to state that present-day
Poland, Belgium, Austria, France, and Britain are in anyway whatsoever
similar to the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia???????????????
You have some serious issues, beginning with no concept of reality, and
that is coming from a Liberal-Democrat!
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:da25e5$p9s$1@bolt.sonic.net...
: Mickey <mickeyb@comcast.net> wrote:
: >"magilla" <chris.linthompson@gmail.com> wrote in message
: >> Mickey wrote:
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: >> > Yeah, the Saudi royal family really has to go, the problem is
that to
: >remove
: >> > them is to invite Islamic extremeists into power.
: >>
: >> Um. Which Saudi Royal Family are you talking about? There must be
more
: >> than one, since the one I know about is already a bunch of Islamic
: >> extremists. The Saudi Royal Family I know about recently had an
: >> "election" and banned half the adult population from voting. That's
: >> "extremist" in my book.
: >
: >Fair enough. In any case, they really need to be dealt with.
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: Poland, then Belgium, and Austria, and France, and then Britain ...
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: Ray Fischer
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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01 Jul 2005 02:05:27 AM |
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ריעין ברתון/Riain Barton <news@riain.org> wrote:
You really think that you can even begin to state that present-day
Poland, Belgium, Austria, France, and Britain are in anyway whatsoever
similar to the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia???????????????
Nope.
You have some serious issues, beginning with no concept of reality, and
that is coming from a Liberal-Democrat!
Anyone with any familiarity with history and invasions should
recognize that list of countries.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "ריעין ברתון/Riain Barton" |
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01 Jul 2005 03:16:48 AM |
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YES HISTORY!!!
NOT CURRENT BEHAVIOUR!!!!!!!!
Good fucking grief!
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
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: ריעין ברתון/Riain Barton <news@riain.org> wrote:
: >You really think that you can even begin to state that present-day
: >Poland, Belgium, Austria, France, and Britain are in anyway
whatsoever
: >similar to the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia???????????????
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: Nope.
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: >You have some serious issues, beginning with no concept of reality,
and
: >that is coming from a Liberal-Democrat!
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: Anyone with any familiarity with history and invasions should
: recognize that list of countries.
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: Ray Fischer
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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01 Jul 2005 09:10:05 PM |
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ריעין ברתון/Riain Barton <news@riain.org> wrote:
YES HISTORY!!!
NOT CURRENT BEHAVIOUR!!!!!!!!
Lying in order to justify an invasion of a country that is no threat.
Sounds familiar.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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29 Jun 2005 08:29:43 AM |
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"loose cannon" <looseaint@aol.com> wrote in message
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Bush Declares Sacrifice in Iraq to Be 'Worth It'
I thought that was Planned Parenthood's motto.
Why are you posting this in the abortion newsgroup?
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| User: "Pr0r3p" |
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29 Jun 2005 03:01:39 PM |
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Johnny wrote:
"loose cannon" <looseaint@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1120021762.193075.28590@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Bush Declares Sacrifice in Iraq to Be 'Worth It'
I thought that was Planned Parenthood's motto.
This is just more evidence that Johnny's idea of "thinking" means he
just ***** his pants and decided to throw it in a newsgroup rather than
flush it.
Why are you posting this in the abortion newsgroup?
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| User: "" |
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01 Jul 2005 12:13:40 AM |
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Johnny wrote:
"loose cannon" <looseaint@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1120021762.193075.28590@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Bush Declares Sacrifice in Iraq to Be 'Worth It'
I thought that was Planned Parenthood's motto.
Why are you posting this in the abortion newsgroup?
Baby killers have their own newsgroup?? What do they discuss,
the best way to kill one who is born alive?
How about strangling them as one "doctor" did? How about
a lethal injection? How about just leave them on a gurney to die
from lack of care? Drowning in a sink? The list is
endless. Of course the best way is to stick a pair of
scissors in the brain as it emerges from the womb as these
"doctors" do in what they laughingly refer to as "late
term" abortions.
In the name of God what have we become when even the
innocent unborn can be put to death because some low
class tart is too lazy to raise her own flesh and blood.
Father forgive.
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| User: "LC" |
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01 Jul 2005 08:40:36 AM |
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<Boedicia@isp.com> wrote in message
news:1120194820.660466.223990@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Baby killers have their own newsgroup?? What do they discuss,
the best way to kill one who is born alive?
How about strangling them as one "doctor" did? How about
a lethal injection? How about just leave them on a gurney to die
from lack of care? Drowning in a sink? The list is
endless. Of course the best way is to stick a pair of
scissors in the brain as it emerges from the womb as these
"doctors" do in what they laughingly refer to as "late
term" abortions.
In the name of God what have we become when even the
innocent unborn can be put to death because some low
class tart is too lazy to raise her own flesh and blood.
Father forgive.
LOL.
Another racist bigot masquerading as "pro-life" and citing "God".
Too funny.
LC~ Loves the way rightards expose themselves.
"The jew in spite of insisting on "free speech" where such
obscenities as filthy porn are concerned in the media they control,
are doing everything in their power to limit it on the net
for obvious reasons. The ACLU (jew inc) are very quick to rush in
and defend "free speech" when some vile "comedian" fills the
airways with filth but apparently those who post on the net
are "full of hate" when they post what everyone already knows
about your race. The world doesn't need the likes of Stern
etal, there is nothing amusing about the kind of filth that
the likes of Lenny Bruce, Buddy Hackett and the rest of the tribe
foist on the host peoples."
From: "Boedicia@isp.com" Boedicia@isp.com, just another rightard bigot.
Newsgroups:
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Subject: Re: Everything You'll Ever Need To Know About Jews
Date: 13 Jun 2005 22:04:36 -0700
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01 Jul 2005 11:48:06 AM |
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"Boedicia@isp.com" wrote:
Johnny wrote:
"loose cannon" <looseaint@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1120021762.193075.28590@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Bush Declares Sacrifice in Iraq to Be 'Worth It'
I thought that was Planned Parenthood's motto.
Why are you posting this in the abortion newsgroup?
Baby killers have their own newsgroup?? What do they discuss,
the best way to kill one who is born alive?
How about strangling them as one "doctor" did? How about
a lethal injection? How about just leave them on a gurney to die
from lack of care? Drowning in a sink? The list is
endless. Of course the best way is to stick a pair of
scissors in the brain as it emerges from the womb as these
"doctors" do in what they laughingly refer to as "late
term" abortions.
In the name of God what have we become when even the
innocent unborn can be put to death because some low
class tart is too lazy to raise her own flesh and blood.
Do you believe in equal rights for gays?
-- Fritz ...
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02 Jul 2005 03:16:44 PM |
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Fritz wrote:
"Boedicia@isp.com" wrote:
Johnny wrote:
"loose cannon" <looseaint@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1120021762.193075.28590@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Bush Declares Sacrifice in Iraq to Be 'Worth It'
I thought that was Planned Parenthood's motto.
Why are you posting this in the abortion newsgroup?
Baby killers have their own newsgroup?? What do they discuss,
the best way to kill one who is born alive?
How about strangling them as one "doctor" did? How about
a lethal injection? How about just leave them on a gurney to die
from lack of care? Drowning in a sink? The list is
endless. Of course the best way is to stick a pair of
scissors in the brain as it emerges from the womb as these
"doctors" do in what they laughingly refer to as "late
term" abortions.
In the name of God what have we become when even the
innocent unborn can be put to death because some low
class tart is too lazy to raise her own flesh and blood.
Do you believe in equal rights for gays?
Not sure what that has to do with baby killing, however, I'll
answer your question. If by equal rights, do I believe they have
the right to prance down the main streets in every country in
the world dressed in what can only be described as obscene
outfits, the answer in *NO*. I also believe that holy
marriage is between a man and a woman not a couple of whatsits.
Other than that they *do* have equal rights. They can work
where they wish, live where they wish, travel where they wish
and attend any U they wish. owever *I* wish they would conduct
their sex lives in privacy like normal people and make an
attempt to limit their sex partners to a few hundred not a few
thousand.
" 1000 sex partners a year is not unusual for a homosexual"
A homosexual in these NG's.
What's the latest AIDS death toll?
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29 Jun 2005 08:33:42 AM |
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On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 09:29:43 -0400, "Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com>
wrote:
"loose cannon" <looseaint@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1120021762.193075.28590@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Bush Declares Sacrifice in Iraq to Be 'Worth It'
I thought that was Planned Parenthood's motto.
No, it's a repug's slogan.
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29 Jun 2005 09:20:41 AM |
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MPD pedophile and stalker "J Young" AKA "IBenGetiner
dressed up in his new sock "loose cannon"
<looseaint@aol.com> wrote in message
1120021762.193075.28590@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Doesn't sound like Mr. Bush plans on bringing our troops home anytime
soon. Get ready for Jeb in 2008.
Much to your stated glee:
"It's quite obvious to ME that what this country really needs at this
point in time is in fact what we've got... a war. AND a draft. That
would give you girls something realllllly real to worry about, now
wouldn't it...? Sortuv put things in their proper perspectives, now
couldn't it...?
I'm glad it's here. And I hope it comes. Then we sane people will
finally see an end to you tree and bunny huggers. You'll be too busy
a-heading off to Canada to worry about such 'important matters' like
this pitiful sack-of-broken-eggs story above.
You people are a real work, you are. Is this the only thing to come
out of the 60s and all that civil rights crap? Emotional imbalance and
mental illness???" IBen
From: "IBen Getiner" <Lappcatt@AOL.com>
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats.health+behav
Subject: Re: Moving Two Cats at Different Times
Date: 29 Jun 2005 01:02:25 -0700
Message-ID: <1120032145.229958.100610@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
I particularly like the part where you refer to yourself as one of the "sane
people". Shows that you have a sense of humor. If nothing else...
LC~ Well, he does have a trailer in the swamp and a 20 year old Honda.
"I have a 1985 Honda Accord. It seems to be using small amounts of
radiator fluid and I can't find out why. It did overheat a few months
ago, but not all the way. No water is in the oil or anything. It uses
about a cup a week. If it were a cracked head gasket, wouldn't it be
getting worse by now? Wouldn't it be performing poorly? It seems to
run great. Any help would be greatly appreciated..."
From: (IBen Getiner)
Newsgroups: alt.autos.honda
Subject: Accord using fluid
Date: 16 Feb 2005 20:34:01 -0800
Message-ID: <396a5984.0502162034.3ba1fe40@posting.google.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.12.116.132
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29 Jun 2005 12:15:53 AM |
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loose cannon wrote:
Doesn't sound like Mr. Bush plans on bringing our troops home anytime
soon. Get ready for Jeb in 2008.
Approximately 1 in 8 American's think that Bush should bring the troops
home before the job is finished.
Regardless whether you think the war in Iraq was right or wrong, 7 out
of 8 Americans think we should finish the job and stablize the area. I
think most Americans are willing to support staying there until it's
finished so we don't have to go back again.
I don't think Jeb will run personally. I look for a Guilliani and
Clinton race. I am hoping Hillary Clinton runs.
I wouldnt' be surprised to see Rice run someday in her career and
possibly be the first woman to be President of the U.S.
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29 Jun 2005 06:51:39 AM |
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WASHINGTON, June 13 (UPI) - Insider notes from United Press
International for June 8
(5433 bytes)
A former Bush team member during his first administration is now voicing
serious doubts about the collapse of the World Trade Center on 9-11. Former
chief economist for the Department of Labor during President George W.
Bush's first term Morgan Reynolds comments that the official story about the
collapse of the WTC is "bogus" and that it is more likely that a controlled
demolition destroyed the Twin Towers and adjacent Building No. 7. Reynolds,
who also served as director of the Criminal Justice Center at the National
Center for Policy Analysis in Dallas and is now professor emeritus at Texas
A&M University said, "If demolition destroyed three steel skyscrapers at the
World Trade Center on 9/11, then the case for an 'inside job' and a
government attack on America would be compelling." Reynolds commented from
his Texas A&M office, "It is hard to exaggerate the importance of a
scientific debate over the cause of the collapse of the twin towers and
building 7. If the official wisdom on the collapses is wrong, as I believe
it is, then policy based on such erroneous engineering analysis is not
likely to be correct either. The government's collapse theory is highly
vulnerable on its own terms. Only professional demolition appears to account
for the full range of facts associated with the collapse of the three
buildings."
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Two years after President George W. Bush proclaimed "mission accomplished"
in Iraq, some thoughtful officers are beginning to question who the
insurgents actually are. In a recent interview the head of the US 42nd
Infantry Division which covers key trouble spots, including Baquba and
Samarra Major General Joseph Taluto said he could understand why some
ordinary Iraqis would take up arms against U.S. forces because "they're
offended by our presence." Taluto added, "If a good, honest person feels
having all these Humvees driving on the road, having us moving people out of
the way, having us patrol the streets, having car bombs going off, you can
understand how they could (want to fight us). There is a sense of a good
resistance, or an accepted resistance. They say 'okay, if you shoot a
coalition soldier, that's okay, it's not a bad thing but you shouldn't kill
other Iraqis.'" Taluto insisted however that the other foreign forces would
not be driven out of Iraq by violence, observing, "If the goal is to have
the coalition leave, attacking them isn't the way," he said. "The way to
make it happen is to enter the political process cooperate and the coalition
will be less aggressive and less visible and eventually it'll go away."
Taluto's comments are sure to raise hackles at the Pentagon, which insist
that all insurgents are either Baathists or al-Qaida. Taluto observed that
"99.9 per cent" of those captured fighting the U.S. were Iraqis.
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Ah well, there's always Argentina. The German government is reportedly
blocking the deportation of Nazi war crimes suspects from the U.S. back to
Germany to be tried and punished. The German interior ministry has refused
to accept the suspects even though the United States already has stripped
them of their citizenship because of their World War II history and has
asked Germany to accept them; German officials worry the suspects might join
neo-Nazi groups. Deputy director of the Office of Special Investigations at
the Department of Justice Jonathan Drimmer said, "By and large we're talking
about concentration camp guards, we're talking about collaborators, people
who were involved in indigenous police forces, that kind of thing." German
interior ministry officials said that Washington had not given Berlin enough
proof that the suspects were war criminals, despite repeated requests from
Germany. Deportation in U.S. court cases requires not criminal, but just
civil, proceedings, with a burden of proof of "clear, convincing, and
unequivocal evidence." German Interior ministry officials noted that if
Germany accepted the deportees, they would be supported by the German social
system and possibly would involve themselves in the extreme right or
anti-Semitic political activities.
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The first conflict that the newly independent United States engaged in began
in 1801 with the Barbary States; now descendents of those corsairs have
participated in naval exercises with their former enemies. On June 7
Algerian and U.S. Coast Guard warships conducted a joint naval exercise,
improving interoperability and developing cooperation in securing the
western Mediterranean. The vessels conducted maritime patrol missions,
testing their joint capabilities to monitor and board suspicious vehicles
and interdict illegal migration. U.S. Coast Guard Capt. Robert Wyner said
Washington regards Algeria as a strategic partner in the war against
terrorism and that Algeria would play a major role in U.S. efforts to
bolster the stability of North Africa and counter the threat of al-Qaida.
Interestingly enough, former counterterrorism adviser Richard A. Clarke
closed Boston harbor on 9-11 because of concerns that al-Qaida terrorists
were stowaways aboard liquefied natural gas tankers from Algeria bound for
Boston's Everett LNG facility.
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29 Jun 2005 07:50:52 AM |
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"El Conquistador" <serwad@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:2Wvwe.3118$qm.1512@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
WASHINGTON, June 13 (UPI) - Insider notes from United Press
International for June 8
THE TRUTH ABOUT 9-11!!!!
So, it has been 3.5 years, and it is time the truth about 9-11 is known to
all.
One day, Elvis, the gray aliens and Charles K. Johnson, the president of the
Flat Earth society were hanging out, having a few beers (and some pills for
Elvis, of course), when Elvis came up with the idea to crash a few jets into
buildings, just to alleviate the boredom of living in abstentia in the hills
of Afghanistan. This sat real well with the flat earthers, as people were
getting too close to figuring out that the world ISN'T flat, and this would
serve as a great diversion. The grays, on the other hand, had concerns. They
expressed that they were worried as to who would get the blame. Elvis said
"Oh, they will blame the Arabs, I will see to that." The grays said "Ah, but
the anti-Semites will find a way to blame the Jews for it.". Elvis started
laughing HARD. "Blame the Jews? Why would anyone blame the Jews? Why would
they attack their strongest ally? Why would they attack and kill their
fellow Jews? Nah, no one would be that stupid.". The grays reminded him that
Muslims do nto need things to make sense, they just need to convince
themselves by repeating a lie 10,000 times" Charlie Johnson said "*****, that
hasn't worked for us, heaven knows we've repeted the lie about the flat
earth for decades now." Ah, said the grays, but the world is a lot dumber
now, you have idiots ragings on the internet about conspiracies all over the
place. Just then, JFK walked in "Boy, this playing dead for 40 years is a
***** and a half", he said. "So, what are you guys up to?, he asked. Charlie
said "We're planning to crash some jets into buildings in New York City and
Washington". JFK replied "Hey, that sounds like fun, can I help?" Elvis said
"Well, the grays seem to think people will blame the Jews for it". JFK let
loose a hearty belly laugh; "Blame the Jews? Why would anyone in their right
mind blame the Jews? What on earth would THEY have to gain by attacking
their closest ally? I think those grays have been eating the mushrooms
again." By now, JFK was really interested in the logistics of all this, and
started asking questions as to HOW this could be implemented. Elvis
suggested they simply mind control the Jets into the buildings, but JFK had
a better idea. He suggested a massive storm, which would push the jets into
the buildings. Well, as these things go, one thing lead to another and the
debate raged on for weeks. Just then, Osama's Your Mamma walked in, caught a
few snippets of the conversation and said "I want in". Elvis wasn't sure
about bringing an outsider in, but Charlie said "Hey, with groups like ours,
you have to take anyone you can get.", so they invited Osama to have a seat.
Osama then said "Why all this muss and fuss with storms and mind control, I
have idiots who will do anything I tell them to, as long as I promise them
virgins and el-lax". Well, now the planning began in earnest. Elvis asked
"Where do you get people who WILLINGLY kill themselves in an attack which
will only lead to more of them getting killed?" "Abdullah's used camel lot",
said Osama. "Abdullah is great that way, he points out the stupid ones for
me. You know how hard it is to tell a stupid one from the rest? It's an art
form, and Abdullah has it down pat. "Who's Pat", asked Elvis, ever in search
of a piece of ***** and all. A few more days of debate, and they had the
details hammered out, and as we all know, Sept. 11, 2001 came.
And this is how the WTC attack was planned and carried out. So, next time
you see Elvis, JFK or a gray alient, do not hesitate to express your
displeasure.
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| User: "El Conquistador" |
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29 Jun 2005 06:48:58 AM |
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"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:1120022153.081113.110280@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
loose cannon wrote:
Doesn't sound like Mr. Bush plans on bringing our troops home anytime
soon. Get ready for Jeb in 2008.
Approximately 1 in 8 American's think that Bush should bring the troops
home before the job is finished.
Regardless whether you think the war in Iraq was right or wrong, 7 out
of 8 Americans think we should finish the job and stablize the area.
"Stabilize the area" you mean murder another 200,000 people?
No matter how long we stay there there will be no tranquility
However, I agree with Bush on one count, I think he should dres twins in the
uniform and send them to Iraq
I
think most Americans are willing to support staying there until it's
finished so we don't have to go back again.
I don't think Jeb will run personally. I look for a Guilliani and
Clinton race. I am hoping Hillary Clinton runs.
I wouldnt' be surprised to see Rice run someday in her career and
possibly be the first woman to be President of the U.S.
Another Ayatollah!
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| User: "Andrealphus" |
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| Title: Re: Bush Declares Sacrifice in Iraq to Be 'Worth It' |
29 Jun 2005 04:31:15 AM |
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"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:1120022153.081113.110280@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
loose cannon wrote:
Doesn't sound like Mr. Bush plans on bringing our troops home anytime
soon. Get ready for Jeb in 2008.
Approximately 1 in 8 American's think that Bush should bring the troops
home before the job is finished.
Regardless whether you think the war in Iraq was right or wrong, 7 out
of 8 Americans think we should finish the job and stablize the area. I
think most Americans are willing to support staying there until it's
finished so we don't have to go back again.
I don't think Jeb will run personally. I look for a Guilliani and
Clinton race. I am hoping Hillary Clinton runs.
I wouldnt' be surprised to see Rice run someday in her career and
possibly be the first woman to be President of the U.S.
Guilliani? How in the world will he get the Republican nomination? Last
I heard he was pro women's rights, and pro gay rights. One of those alone
is enough to kill his nomination.
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| User: "Jenn" |
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| Title: Re: Bush Declares Sacrifice in Iraq to Be 'Worth It' |
29 Jun 2005 12:20:32 AM |
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In article <1120022153.081113.110280@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
loose cannon wrote:
Doesn't sound like Mr. Bush plans on bringing our troops home anytime
soon. Get ready for Jeb in 2008.
Approximately 1 in 8 American's think that Bush should bring the troops
home before the job is finished.
Regardless whether you think the war in Iraq was right or wrong, 7 out
of 8 Americans think we should finish the job and stablize the area. I
think most Americans are willing to support staying there until it's
finished so we don't have to go back again.
I don't think Jeb will run personally. I look for a Guilliani and
Clinton race. I am hoping Hillary Clinton runs.
Guilliani will NEVER get the Repub nomination: pro gay rights, pro
choice, etc.
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| User: "Mickey" |
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| Title: Re: Bush Declares Sacrifice in Iraq to Be 'Worth It' |
29 Jun 2005 07:15:09 AM |
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"Jenn" <jennconducts@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:jennconducts-4424FE.22211228062005@newssvr13-ext.news.prodigy.com...
In article <1120022153.081113.110280@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
loose cannon wrote:
Doesn't sound like Mr. Bush plans on bringing our troops home anytime
soon. Get ready for Jeb in 2008.
Approximately 1 in 8 American's think that Bush should bring the troops
home before the job is finished.
Regardless whether you think the war in Iraq was right or wrong, 7 out
of 8 Americans think we should finish the job and stablize the area. I
think most Americans are willing to support staying there until it's
finished so we don't have to go back again.
I don't think Jeb will run personally. I look for a Guilliani and
Clinton race. I am hoping Hillary Clinton runs.
Guilliani will NEVER get the Repub nomination: pro gay rights, pro
choice, etc.
Add yet, he may be the most electable republican out there.
Mickey
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| User: "Jenn" |
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| Title: Re: Bush Declares Sacrifice in Iraq to Be 'Worth It' |
29 Jun 2005 10:03:14 AM |
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In article <F-adnQ9Hzcr2DV_fRVn-gw@comcast.com>,
"Mickey" <mickeyb@comcast.net> wrote:
"Jenn" <jennconducts@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:jennconducts-4424FE.22211228062005@newssvr13-ext.news.prodigy.com...
In article <1120022153.081113.110280@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
loose cannon wrote:
Doesn't sound like Mr. Bush plans on bringing our troops home anytime
soon. Get ready for Jeb in 2008.
Approximately 1 in 8 American's think that Bush should bring the troops
home before the job is finished.
Regardless whether you think the war in Iraq was right or wrong, 7 out
of 8 Americans think we should finish the job and stablize the area. I
think most Americans are willing to support staying there until it's
finished so we don't have to go back again.
I don't think Jeb will run personally. I look for a Guilliani and
Clinton race. I am hoping Hillary Clinton runs.
Guilliani will NEVER get the Repub nomination: pro gay rights, pro
choice, etc.
Add yet, he may be the most electable republican out there.
Mickey
I agree; but the Right will never allow his nomination.
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| User: "magilla" |
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| Title: Re: Bush Declares Sacrifice in Iraq to Be 'Worth It' |
29 Jun 2005 10:57:08 AM |
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Jenn wrote:
In article <F-adnQ9Hzcr2DV_fRVn-gw@comcast.com>,
"Mickey" <mickeyb@comcast.net> wrote:
"Jenn" <jennconducts@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:jennconducts-4424FE.22211228062005@newssvr13-ext.news.prodigy.com...
In article <1120022153.081113.110280@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
loose cannon wrote:
Doesn't sound like Mr. Bush plans on bringing our troops home anytime
soon. Get ready for Jeb in 2008.
Approximately 1 in 8 American's think that Bush should bring the troops
home before the job is finished.
Regardless whether you think the war in Iraq was right or wrong, 7 out
of 8 Americans think we should finish the job and stablize the area. I
think most Americans are willing to support staying there until it's
finished so we don't have to go back again.
I don't think Jeb will run personally. I look for a Guilliani and
Clinton race. I am hoping Hillary Clinton runs.
Guilliani will NEVER get the Repub nomination: pro gay rights, pro
choice, etc.
Add yet, he may be the most electable republican out there.
Mickey
I agree; but the Right will never allow his nomination.
Well then, I might send the Religious Right a "thank you" note.
Speaking as a New Yorker, it disgusts me how Ghouliani has parlayed
9/11 into a career. And it perplexes me that so many people can think
he's so wonderful when his claim to fame is that, for 6 weeks of his
tenure as mayor of New York, he wasn't a *****.
Chris
aa2186
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| User: "Kubez" |
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| Title: Re: Bush Declares Sacrifice in Iraq to Be 'Worth It' |
29 Jun 2005 09:12:33 PM |
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"magilla" <chris.linthompson@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1120060628.819163.193140@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
Speaking as a New Yorker, it disgusts me how Ghouliani has parlayed
9/11 into a career. And it perplexes me that so many people can think
he's so wonderful when his claim to fame is that, for 6 weeks of his
tenure as mayor of New York, he wasn't a *****.
I always wondered what happened to David Dinkins. Here he is!
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| User: "Mickey" |
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| Title: Re: Bush Declares Sacrifice in Iraq to Be 'Worth It' |
29 Jun 2005 12:26:35 PM |
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"magilla" <chris.linthompson@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1120060628.819163.193140@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Jenn wrote:
In article <F-adnQ9Hzcr2DV_fRVn-gw@comcast.com>,
"Mickey" <mickeyb@comcast.net> wrote:
"Jenn" <jennconducts@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:jennconducts-4424FE.22211228062005@newssvr13-ext.news.prodigy.com...
In article <1120022153.081113.110280@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
loose cannon wrote:
Doesn't sound like Mr. Bush plans on bringing our troops home
anytime
soon. Get ready for Jeb in 2008.
Approximately 1 in 8 American's think that Bush should bring the
troops
home before the job is finished.
Regardless whether you think the war in Iraq was right or wrong, 7
out
of 8 Americans think we should finish the job and stablize the
area. I
think most Americans are willing to support staying there until
it's
finished so we don't have to go back again.
I don't think Jeb will run personally. I look for a Guilliani and
Clinton race. I am hoping Hillary Clinton runs.
Guilliani will NEVER get the Repub nomination: pro gay rights, pro
choice, etc.
Add yet, he may be the most electable republican out there.
Mickey
I agree; but the Right will never allow his nomination.
Well then, I might send the Religious Right a "thank you" note.
Speaking as a New Yorker, it disgusts me how Ghouliani has parlayed
9/11 into a career. And it perplexes me that so many people can think
he's so wonderful when his claim to fame is that, for 6 weeks of his
tenure as mayor of New York, he wasn't a *****.
Yeah... and of course, minor things like cleaning up Times Square (exit the
bevy of porno shops) and reducing the crime rate, hiring cops, etc.
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| User: "Sonewriter" |
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29 Jun 2005 06:58:37 AM |
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On 28 Jun 2005 22:15:53 -0700, "osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
[...]
I don't think Jeb will run personally. I look for a Guilliani...
Rudi Guiliani supports gay and lesbian rights, racial justice and
supports for the accessibility of higher education to all. These are
things some more radical republicans don't favor, so how is it the
radicalism in the party going to support a progressive individual?
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| User: "Mickey" |
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| Title: Re: Bush Declares Sacrifice in Iraq to Be 'Worth It' |
29 Jun 2005 07:51:58 AM |
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"Sonewriter" <sappywriter@poetic.com> wrote in message
news:3s25c19kfovm134dne2dj26fj01io2tlfi@4ax.com...
On 28 Jun 2005 22:15:53 -0700, "osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
[...]
I don't think Jeb will run personally. I look for a Guilliani...
Rudi Guiliani supports gay and lesbian rights, racial justice and
supports for the accessibility of higher education to all. These are
things some more radical republicans don't favor, so how is it the
radicalism in the party going to support a progressive individual?
Ah, that's an easy one. Republicans will chose whoever they think will win.
Better a republican that is more left-leaning than a democrat.
Mickey
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| User: "Bill Baker" |
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| Title: Re: Bush Declares Sacrifice in Iraq to Be 'Worth It' |
29 Jun 2005 09:24:26 AM |
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On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 08:51:58 -0400, "Mickey" <mickeyb@comcast.net> wrote
in message news:<E4mdneZjk62iBF_fRVn-gw@comcast.com>...
"Sonewriter" <sappywriter@poetic.com> wrote in message
news:3s25c19kfovm134dne2dj26fj01io2tlfi@4ax.com...
On 28 Jun 2005 22:15:53 -0700, "osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
[...]
I don't think Jeb will run personally. I look for a Guilliani...
Rudi Guiliani supports gay and lesbian rights, racial justice and
supports for the accessibility of higher education to all. These are
things some more radical republicans don't favor, so how is it the
radicalism in the party going to support a progressive individual?
Ah, that's an easy one. Republicans will chose whoever they think will win.
Better a republican that is more left-leaning than a democrat.
Yeah, that's why John McCain won the 2000 Republican primary.
--
Lurlean Lie #9:
Sodomy is more important to you than anything else.
news:7908c278.0311091020.3d97495b@posting.google.com
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