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29 Jun 2005 05:09:22 AM |
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Bush Declares Sacrifice in Iraq to Be 'Worth It' |
Doesn't sound like Mr. Bush plans on bringing our troops home anytime
soon. Get ready for Jeb in 2008.
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/29/politics/29prexy.html?hp&ex=1120104000&en=01a60703b5ae27e5&ei=5094&partner=homepage
Bush Declares Sacrifice in Iraq to Be 'Worth It'
FORT BRAGG, N.C., June 28 - President Bush, facing a growing
restiveness around the country and in his own party over the constant
stream of casualties in Iraq, declared Tuesday night that the daily
sacrifice of American lives in Iraq "is worth it, and it is vital to
the future security of our country."
Members of the 82nd Airborne Division at Fort Bragg, N.C., Tuesday
night during President Bush's address on the war on terrorism. He gave
no timetable for American withdrawal.
In an address to the nation from this Army base, in front of 750
members of the 82nd Airborne Division and the Army's Special Operations
unit based here, Mr. Bush spoke in somber tones of the need for staying
power in what has become a long conflict in Iraq. As he has in the
past, the president melded the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks with
the enemies Americans now face in Iraq.
Mr. Bush gave no timetables for American withdrawal other than an
assurance that "as the Iraqis stand up, we will stand down."
While offering no new strategies in a war that has now stretched for 25
months, with no diminishing of attacks on American forces, he explained
that he would not send more troops to face the insurgency in Iraq,
unless asked by commanders there, because it would "undermine our
strategy of encouraging Iraqis to take the lead in this fight."
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29 Jun 2005 06:25:58 AM |
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Bush Declares Sacrifice of other people's children
in Iraq to Be 'Worth It'
FORT BRAGG, N.C., June 28 - President Bush, facing
a growing restiveness around the country and in his
own party over the constant stream of casualties in Iraq,
declared Tuesday night that the daily sacrifice of
other people's children in Iraq "is worth it, and it is vital
to the future security of my family's wealth and power."
Members of the 82nd Airborne Division at Fort Bragg,
N.C., Tuesday night during President Bush's address on
the war on terrorism. He gave no timetable for American
withdrawal. In an address to the nation from this Army
base, in front of 750 carefully screened members of the
82nd Airborne Division and the Army's Special Operations
unit based here, Mr. Bush spoke in somber tones of the
need for his staying in power in what has become a
difficult second term. As he has in the past, the president
tried his best to confuse the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks
with the in Iraq, mentioning 9/11 no less than six times in
the speech.
Mr. Bush gave no timetables for American withdrawal
other than an assurance that "When hell freezes over, we
will stand down."
While offering no new strategies in a war that has now
stretched for 25 months, with no diminishing of attacks
on American forces, he explained that he would not
send more troops to face the insurgency in Iraq, unless
asked by commanders there, ignoring the fact that the
Pentagon had been asking for additional troops since
prior to the start of the war. Worse still, the request for
additional troops assumed that there was already at least
one additional division involved in Iraq, a division that
never arrived after Turkey refused to allow them to land
on their soil.
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| User: "El Conquistador" |
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29 Jun 2005 11:51:10 AM |
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"JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Bush Declares Sacrifice of other people's children
in Iraq to Be 'Worth It'
he is sending twins to die for Israel!
FORT BRAGG, N.C., June 28 - President Bush, facing
a growing restiveness around the country and in his
own party over the constant stream of casualties in Iraq,
declared Tuesday night that the daily sacrifice of
other people's children in Iraq "is worth it, and it is vital
to the future security of my family's wealth and power."
Members of the 82nd Airborne Division at Fort Bragg,
N.C., Tuesday night during President Bush's address on
the war on terrorism. He gave no timetable for American
withdrawal. In an address to the nation from this Army
base, in front of 750 carefully screened members of the
82nd Airborne Division and the Army's Special Operations
unit based here, Mr. Bush spoke in somber tones of the
need for his staying in power in what has become a
difficult second term. As he has in the past, the president
tried his best to confuse the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks
with the in Iraq, mentioning 9/11 no less than six times in
the speech.
Mr. Bush gave no timetables for American withdrawal
other than an assurance that "When hell freezes over, we
will stand down."
While offering no new strategies in a war that has now
stretched for 25 months, with no diminishing of attacks
on American forces, he explained that he would not
send more troops to face the insurgency in Iraq, unless
asked by commanders there, ignoring the fact that the
Pentagon had been asking for additional troops since
prior to the start of the war. Worse still, the request for
additional troops assumed that there was already at least
one additional division involved in Iraq, a division that
never arrived after Turkey refused to allow them to land
on their soil.
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| User: "Mickey" |
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| Title: Re: Bush Declares Sacrifice in Iraq to Be 'Worth It' |
29 Jun 2005 12:50:25 PM |
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"El Conquistador" <serwad@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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"JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Bush Declares Sacrifice of other people's children
in Iraq to Be 'Worth It'
he is sending twins to die for Israel!
What does Israel have to do with anything? It wasn't Israel that attacked
the USA on Sept. 11, 2001. It wasn't Israel that was mass-murdering Iraqis,
and it isn't Israel that is at war now. You real are dull, aren't you?
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| User: "Bill" |
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29 Jun 2005 05:06:40 PM |
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"Mickey" <mickeyb@comcast.net> wrote in message
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"El Conquistador" <serwad@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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"JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Bush Declares Sacrifice of other people's children
in Iraq to Be 'Worth It'
he is sending twins to die for Israel!
What does Israel have to do with anything? It wasn't Israel that attacked
the USA on Sept. 11, 2001. It wasn't Israel that was mass-murdering
Iraqis,
and it isn't Israel that is at war now. You real are dull, aren't you?
You seem unaware that the ONLY country "potentially" threated by Iraq was
Israel and that NON - NADA of
of Iraq's neighbors considered Iraq a sufficient threat to join us in our
war with Iraq - not even Israel.
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| User: "Mickey" |
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29 Jun 2005 05:27:26 PM |
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"Bill" <wmech@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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"Mickey" <mickeyb@comcast.net> wrote in message
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"El Conquistador" <serwad@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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"JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Bush Declares Sacrifice of other people's children
in Iraq to Be 'Worth It'
he is sending twins to die for Israel!
What does Israel have to do with anything? It wasn't Israel that
attacked
the USA on Sept. 11, 2001. It wasn't Israel that was mass-murdering
Iraqis,
and it isn't Israel that is at war now. You real are dull, aren't you?
You seem unaware that the ONLY country "potentially" threated by Iraq was
Israel and that NON - NADA of
of Iraq's neighbors considered Iraq a sufficient threat to join us in our
war with Iraq - not even Israel.
Yeah, I guess you're right. So what if he invaded 3 of his neighbors in the
prior 20 years, what threat would that construe?
Sheesh.
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| User: "Martin Joseph" |
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30 Jun 2005 07:08:42 AM |
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On 2005-06-29 10:06:40 -0700, "Bill" <wmech@bellsouth.net> said:
"Mickey" <mickeyb@comcast.net> wrote in message
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"El Conquistador" <serwad@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:BVvwe.3117$qm.2961@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
"JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:2YOdnRK-VvtfoV_fRVn-qQ@comcast.com...
Bush Declares Sacrifice of other people's children
in Iraq to Be 'Worth It'
he is sending twins to die for Israel!
What does Israel have to do with anything? It wasn't Israel that attacked
the USA on Sept. 11, 2001. It wasn't Israel that was mass-murdering
Iraqis,
and it isn't Israel that is at war now. You real are dull, aren't you?
You seem unaware that the ONLY country "potentially" threated by Iraq was
Israel and that NON - NADA of
of Iraq's neighbors considered Iraq a sufficient threat to join us in our
war with Iraq - not even Israel.
Actually Iraq was no threat to anyone, other then the poor Iraqi's who
suffered horribly at Saddam's hands (some of them that is).
The Iraqi military had already been repeatedly decimated and they had
effectively been blocked from getting new/better weapons or even parts.
They were in fact incredibly weak, that was why Bush got to celebrate
his "mission accomplished" so quickly. What a *****.
Marty
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| User: "Guenter Scholz" |
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29 Jun 2005 05:03:02 PM |
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Bush Declares Sacrifice of other people's children
in Iraq to Be 'Worth It'
he is sending twins to die for Israel!
What does Israel have to do with anything? It wasn't Israel that attacked
the USA on Sept. 11, 2001. It wasn't Israel that was mass-murdering Iraqis,
and it isn't Israel that is at war now. You real are dull, aren't you?
Indeed, but pray tell what does Iraq have to do with it? No WMD's
etc etc... of course there are the close US oil associates, the Saudis...
I hear human rights aren't particularly great there either.
hmmmm
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| User: "Mickey" |
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29 Jun 2005 05:30:35 PM |
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"Guenter Scholz" <scholz@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca> wrote in message
news:d9uk86$bcf$1@rumours.uwaterloo.ca...
Bush Declares Sacrifice of other people's children
in Iraq to Be 'Worth It'
he is sending twins to die for Israel!
What does Israel have to do with anything? It wasn't Israel that attacked
the USA on Sept. 11, 2001. It wasn't Israel that was mass-murdering
Iraqis,
and it isn't Israel that is at war now. You real are dull, aren't you?
Indeed, but pray tell what does Iraq have to do with it? No WMD's
etc etc... of course there are the close US oil associates, the Saudis...
I hear human rights aren't particularly great there either.
hmmmm
Yeah, the Saudi royal family really has to go, the problem is that to remove
them is to invite Islamic extremeists into power.
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| User: "JTEM" |
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30 Jun 2005 01:35:41 PM |
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"Mickey" <mickeyb@comcast.net> wrote
Yeah, the Saudi royal family really has to go, the
problem is that to remove them is to invite
Islamic extremeists into power.
Isn't that what Bush wants? And, if not, why the mess
in Iraq?
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| User: "Mickey" |
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29 Jun 2005 01:28:56 PM |
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"JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Mickey" <mickeyb@comcast.net> wrote
Yeah, the Saudi royal family really has to go, the
problem is that to remove them is to invite
Islamic extremeists into power.
Isn't that what Bush wants?
Of course not.
And, if not, why the mess in Iraq?
Because Saddam was a butcher who accounted for the deaths of 2 million, and
who invaded THREE of his neighbors.
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| User: "JTEM" |
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30 Jun 2005 01:47:04 PM |
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"Mickey" <mickeyb@comcast.net> wrote
Because Saddam was a butcher who accounted for
the deaths of 2 million, and who invaded THREE
of his neighbors.
Ignoring the fact that Saddam doesn't rank in the top
ten of the world's worst butchers...
Actually, he only invaded two of his neighbors. The
first time the U.S. openly aided him, the second time
Bush senior gave the green light to the invasion in
advance.
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| User: "Mickey" |
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29 Jun 2005 03:29:54 PM |
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"JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Mickey" <mickeyb@comcast.net> wrote
Because Saddam was a butcher who accounted for
the deaths of 2 million, and who invaded THREE
of his neighbors.
Ignoring the fact that Saddam doesn't rank in the top
ten of the world's worst butchers...
But the rest are dead.
Actually, he only invaded two of his neighbors. The
first time the U.S. openly aided him, the second time
Bush senior gave the green light to the invasion in
advance.
No, 3. Iran, Kuwait and Saudi Arabia.
Mickey
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| User: "JTEM" |
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01 Jul 2005 08:37:06 AM |
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"Mickey" <mickeyb@comcast.net> wrote
Actually, he only invaded two of his neighbors. The
first time the U.S. openly aided him, the second time
Bush senior gave the green light to the invasion in
advance.
No, 3. Iran, Kuwait and Saudi Arabia.
He invaded Iran with U.S. help (thought the Republicans
were also helping Iran), and Bush senior gave the green
light to the invasion of Kuwait in advance. The supposed
"invasion" of Saudi Arabia was an attack meant to screw
up U.S. plans for our invasion of Iraq.
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| User: "Mickey" |
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30 Jun 2005 11:16:00 AM |
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"JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Mickey" <mickeyb@comcast.net> wrote
Actually, he only invaded two of his neighbors. The
first time the U.S. openly aided him, the second time
Bush senior gave the green light to the invasion in
advance.
No, 3. Iran, Kuwait and Saudi Arabia.
He invaded Iran with U.S. help (thought the Republicans
were also helping Iran),
Irrelevant, he invaded Iran, PERIOD.
and Bush senior gave the green light to the invasion of Kuwait in advance.
Did Elvis help?
The supposed "invasion" of Saudi Arabia was an attack meant to screw
up U.S. plans for our invasion of Iraq.
Crossing a sovereign nations borders is an invasion, Hanging quote marks
around it doesn't lessen the fact.
Saddam invaded 3 of his neighbors, he was a rogue dictator, and the world is
a better place for having him in a cell.
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01 Jul 2005 01:13:36 AM |
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Mickey <mickeyb@comcast.net> wrote:
"JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com> wrote in message
"Mickey" <mickeyb@comcast.net> wrote
Yeah, the Saudi royal family really has to go, the
problem is that to remove them is to invite
Islamic extremeists into power.
Isn't that what Bush wants?
Of course not.
And, if not, why the mess in Iraq?
Because Saddam was a butcher who accounted for the deaths of 2 million, and
who invaded THREE of his neighbors.
The US is responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands and Bush
has ordered the invasion of two countries for no good reasons.
So why isn't Bush on trial for war crimes?
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Mickey" |
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30 Jun 2005 02:27:05 AM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
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Mickey <mickeyb@comcast.net> wrote:
"JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com> wrote in message
"Mickey" <mickeyb@comcast.net> wrote
Yeah, the Saudi royal family really has to go, the
problem is that to remove them is to invite
Islamic extremeists into power.
Isn't that what Bush wants?
Of course not.
And, if not, why the mess in Iraq?
Because Saddam was a butcher who accounted for the deaths of 2 million,
and
who invaded THREE of his neighbors.
The US is responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands and Bush
has ordered the invasion of two countries for no good reasons.
Two countries for no good reason?
Bye-bye credibility, hello kill file
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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01 Jul 2005 04:40:43 AM |
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Mickey <mickeyb@comcast.net> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
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Mickey <mickeyb@comcast.net> wrote:
"JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com> wrote in message
"Mickey" <mickeyb@comcast.net> wrote
Yeah, the Saudi royal family really has to go, the
problem is that to remove them is to invite
Islamic extremeists into power.
Isn't that what Bush wants?
Of course not.
And, if not, why the mess in Iraq?
Because Saddam was a butcher who accounted for the deaths of 2 million,
and
who invaded THREE of his neighbors.
The US is responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands and Bush
has ordered the invasion of two countries for no good reasons.
Two countries for no good reason?
Polly want a cracker?
Bye-bye credibility, hello kill file
Run away, lapdog.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Martin Joseph" |
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06 Jul 2005 05:19:54 PM |
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On 2005-06-29 19:27:05 -0700, "Mickey" <mickeyb@comcast.net> said:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:da25bv$p8l$1@bolt.sonic.net...
Mickey <mickeyb@comcast.net> wrote:
"JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com> wrote in message
"Mickey" <mickeyb@comcast.net> wrote
Yeah, the Saudi royal family really has to go, the
problem is that to remove them is to invite
Islamic extremeists into power.
Isn't that what Bush wants?
Of course not.
And, if not, why the mess in Iraq?
Because Saddam was a butcher who accounted for the deaths of 2 million,
and
who invaded THREE of his neighbors.
The US is responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands and Bush
has ordered the invasion of two countries for no good reasons.
Two countries for no good reason?
Bye-bye credibility, hello kill file
Likewise.
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| User: "øéòéï áøúåïý/Riain Barton" |
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07 Jul 2005 07:22:59 AM |
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I confess I DID IT!!! AND I DID IT THE JEW WAY:
Oy now, the end is near;
And so I face the final schmata.
My friend, I’ll say it clear,
I’ll state my case, of which I’m certain.
I’ve lived a life L'Chaim.
I’ve travelled each and ev’ry highway;
And more, much more than this,
I did it the Jew way.
Regrets, Ach, I’ve had a few;
But then again, too few to mention.
I did what I had to do
And saw it through without k'vetching.
I planned each charted course;
Each careful step along the byway,
But more, much more than this,
I did it the Jew way.
Yes, there were times, Oy v'voy.
When I bit off more than I could chew.
But through it all, I noshed without a doubt,
I Blessed it up and didn't pout.
I faced it all and I stood tall;
And I did it the Jew way.
I’ve loved, I’ve laughed and cried.
I’ve had my fill; my share of losing.
And now, as tears subside,
I find it all so like vaudeville.
To think I did all that;
And may I say - not in a goy way,
No, oh no not me,
I did it the Jew way.
For what is a Jew, what has he got?
If not HaShem, then he has naught.
To say the things he truly feels;
And not the words of one who kneels.
The record shows I took the blows -
And I did it the Jew way!
"Martin Joseph" <mercedes@barknaturalpet.com> wrote in message
news:2005070610195416807%mercedes@barknaturalpetcom...
: On 2005-06-29 19:27:05 -0700, "Mickey" <mickeyb@comcast.net> said:
:
: > "Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
: > news:da25bv$p8l$1@bolt.sonic.net...
: >> Mickey <mickeyb@comcast.net> wrote:
: >>> "JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com> wrote in message
: >>>> "Mickey" <mickeyb@comcast.net> wrote
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: >>>>> Yeah, the Saudi royal family really has to go, the
: >>>>> problem is that to remove them is to invite
: >>>>> Islamic extremeists into power.
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: >>>> Isn't that what Bush wants?
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: >>> Of course not.
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: >>>> And, if not, why the mess in Iraq?
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: >>> Because Saddam was a butcher who accounted for the deaths of 2
million,
: > and
: >>> who invaded THREE of his neighbors.
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: >> The US is responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands and
Bush
: >> has ordered the invasion of two countries for no good reasons.
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: > Two countries for no good reason?
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: > Bye-bye credibility, hello kill file
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: Likewise.
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| User: "øéòéï áøúåïý/Riain Barton" |
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01 Jul 2005 06:14:55 AM |
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He ordered the invasion of one country for no good reason, not two,
Afghanistan he had a reason.
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
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: Mickey <mickeyb@comcast.net> wrote:
: >"JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com> wrote in message
: >> "Mickey" <mickeyb@comcast.net> wrote
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: >> > Yeah, the Saudi royal family really has to go, the
: >> > problem is that to remove them is to invite
: >> > Islamic extremeists into power.
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: >> Isn't that what Bush wants?
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: >Of course not.
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: >> And, if not, why the mess in Iraq?
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: >Because Saddam was a butcher who accounted for the deaths of 2
million, and
: >who invaded THREE of his neighbors.
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: The US is responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands and Bush
: has ordered the invasion of two countries for no good reasons.
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: So why isn't Bush on trial for war crimes?
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: Ray Fischer
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01 Jul 2005 07:04:22 AM |
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øéòéï áøúåïý/Riain Barton <news@riain.org> wrote:
He ordered the invasion of one country for no good reason, not two,
Afghanistan he had a reason.
He didn't want to provide the Afgan government with evidence that
bin Laden was behind 9/11.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Adam H." |
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30 Jun 2005 01:40:43 PM |
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On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 09:28:56 -0400, "Mickey" <mickeyb@comcast.net>
wrote:
"JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:gJKdnU-GieVlb17fRVn-iQ@comcast.com...
"Mickey" <mickeyb@comcast.net> wrote
Yeah, the Saudi royal family really has to go, the
problem is that to remove them is to invite
Islamic extremeists into power.
Isn't that what Bush wants?
Of course not.
And, if not, why the mess in Iraq?
Because Saddam was a butcher who accounted for the deaths of 2 million, and
who invaded THREE of his neighbors.
And THAT reason was so compelling that Bush had to make up a few other
reasons to invade instead. Take a break, Mickey. We all remember what
was really said.
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30 Jun 2005 01:52:01 PM |
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"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote
And THAT reason was so compelling that Bush
had to make up a few other reasons to invade
instead.
Seriously. The mafia fell back on that reason after all
the others collapsed on them.
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| User: "Mickey" |
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| Title: Re: Bush Declares Sacrifice in Iraq to Be 'Worth It' |
29 Jun 2005 03:28:36 PM |
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"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 09:28:56 -0400, "Mickey" <mickeyb@comcast.net>
wrote:
"JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Mickey" <mickeyb@comcast.net> wrote
Yeah, the Saudi royal family really has to go, the
problem is that to remove them is to invite
Islamic extremeists into power.
Isn't that what Bush wants?
Of course not.
And, if not, why the mess in Iraq?
Because Saddam was a butcher who accounted for the deaths of 2 million,
and
who invaded THREE of his neighbors.
And THAT reason was so compelling that Bush had to make up a few other
reasons to invade instead. Take a break, Mickey. We all remember what
was really said.
Again I will repeat for the hearing impaired. The right action, for the
wrong reasons, is still right.
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| User: "Adam H." |
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30 Jun 2005 09:40:00 PM |
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On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 11:28:36 -0400, "Mickey" <mickeyb@comcast.net>
wrote:
"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 09:28:56 -0400, "Mickey" <mickeyb@comcast.net>
wrote:
"JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Mickey" <mickeyb@comcast.net> wrote
Yeah, the Saudi royal family really has to go, the
problem is that to remove them is to invite
Islamic extremeists into power.
Isn't that what Bush wants?
Of course not.
And, if not, why the mess in Iraq?
Because Saddam was a butcher who accounted for the deaths of 2 million,
and
who invaded THREE of his neighbors.
And THAT reason was so compelling that Bush had to make up a few other
reasons to invade instead. Take a break, Mickey. We all remember what
was really said.
Again I will repeat for the hearing impaired. The right action, for the
wrong reasons, is still right.
But that cannot be used to excuse the deceptions that occurred on the
way. If the action was right to begin with then it should have been
able to stand on its own merits instead of having to be supported by
deception.
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| User: "Andrealphus" |
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| Title: Re: Bush Declares Sacrifice in Iraq to Be 'Worth It' |
30 Jun 2005 10:06:49 PM |
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"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 11:28:36 -0400, "Mickey" <mickeyb@comcast.net>
wrote:
"Adam H." <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 09:28:56 -0400, "Mickey" <mickeyb@comcast.net>
wrote:
"JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Mickey" <mickeyb@comcast.net> wrote
Yeah, the Saudi royal family really has to go, the
problem is that to remove them is to invite
Islamic extremeists into power.
Isn't that what Bush wants?
Of course not.
And, if not, why the mess in Iraq?
Because Saddam was a butcher who accounted for the deaths of 2 million,
and
who invaded THREE of his neighbors.
And THAT reason was so compelling that Bush had to make up a few other
reasons to invade instead. Take a break, Mickey. We all remember what
was really said.
Again I will repeat for the hearing impaired. The right action, for the
wrong reasons, is still right.
But that cannot be used to excuse the deceptions that occurred on the
way. If the action was right to begin with then it should have been
able to stand on its own merits instead of having to be supported by
deception.
Exactly! At least give the U.S. public the right to decide for themselves
whether or not it is, "The right action." The ends does not always justify
the means, particularly when the means is based on deceit.
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| User: "magilla" |
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30 Jun 2005 01:43:30 PM |
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Mickey wrote:
Yeah, the Saudi royal family really has to go, the problem is that to remove
them is to invite Islamic extremeists into power.
Um. Which Saudi Royal Family are you talking about? There must be more
than one, since the one I know about is already a bunch of Islamic
extremists. The Saudi Royal Family I know about recently had an
"election" and banned half the adult population from voting. That's
"extremist" in my book.
Chris
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| User: "JTEM" |
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| Title: Re: Bush Declares Sacrifice in Iraq to Be 'Worth It' |
30 Jun 2005 01:57:36 PM |
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"magilla" <chris.linthompson@gmail.com> wrote
Um. Which Saudi Royal Family are you talking about?
There must be more than one, since the one I know
about is already a bunch of Islamic extremists.
Yes, the new "Democratic Monarchy" of Saudi Arabia,
where everybody who is king is free to vote...
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| User: "Mickey" |
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29 Jun 2005 03:30:37 PM |
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"magilla" <chris.linthompson@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Mickey wrote:
Yeah, the Saudi royal family really has to go, the problem is that to
remove
them is to invite Islamic extremeists into power.
Um. Which Saudi Royal Family are you talking about? There must be more
than one, since the one I know about is already a bunch of Islamic
extremists. The Saudi Royal Family I know about recently had an
"election" and banned half the adult population from voting. That's
"extremist" in my book.
Fair enough. In any case, they really need to be dealt with.
Mickey
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Bush Declares Sacrifice in Iraq to Be 'Worth It' |
01 Jul 2005 01:14:45 AM |
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Mickey <mickeyb@comcast.net> wrote:
"magilla" <chris.linthompson@gmail.com> wrote in message
Mickey wrote:
Yeah, the Saudi royal family really has to go, the problem is that to
remove
them is to invite Islamic extremeists into power.
Um. Which Saudi Royal Family are you talking about? There must be more
than one, since the one I know about is already a bunch of Islamic
extremists. The Saudi Royal Family I know about recently had an
"election" and banned half the adult population from voting. That's
"extremist" in my book.
Fair enough. In any case, they really need to be dealt with.
Poland, then Belgium, and Austria, and France, and then Britain ...
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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