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"Fredric L. Rice" |
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19 Jul 2005 10:18:36 PM |
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Bush ends women's rights in Iraq |
| Iraq's war on women
| Lesley Abdela
| 18 - 7 - 2005
| Violence and intimidation against women are escalating across Iraq.
| The world's commitment is needed to halt this assault on human and
| democratic rights, says Lesley Abdela.
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| Just as Iraqi women were anticipating a new era of democracy and
| freedom, a wave of intimidation by extremist groups has arisen to
| crush their hopes. Violent oppression of women is spreading across
| Iraq, a weapon of mass mental and physical destruction. And yet
| there is silence from world leaders, religious leaders,
| politicians and the media.
|
| Insurgents and religious extremists use rape, acid and
| assassination to force Iraqi women to wear the veil -- the symbol
| of submission, first signal of further repression to come. Many
| Iraqi women have never worn the scarf. Now, dead bodies of girls
| and women are found in rivers and on waste ground with a veil
| tied around the head, as a message.
|
| As well as unveiled women, key targets are those who wear make-up,
| who are well educated and in the professions, and who work with
| organisations connected with the coalition forces.
| ...
<http://www.opendemocracy.net/conflict-iraqconflict/women_2681.jsp>
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Bush ends women's rights in Iraq |
30 Jul 2005 12:07:22 PM |
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On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 03:18:36 GMT, (Fredric L.
Rice) wrote:
Superstition is the problem. It is not a solution.
| Iraq's war on women
| Lesley Abdela
| 18 - 7 - 2005
| Violence and intimidation against women are escalating across Iraq.
| The world's commitment is needed to halt this assault on human and
| democratic rights, says Lesley Abdela.
|
| Just as Iraqi women were anticipating a new era of democracy and
| freedom, a wave of intimidation by extremist groups has arisen to
| crush their hopes. Violent oppression of women is spreading across
| Iraq, a weapon of mass mental and physical destruction. And yet
| there is silence from world leaders, religious leaders,
| politicians and the media.
|
| Insurgents and religious extremists use rape, acid and
| assassination to force Iraqi women to wear the veil -- the symbol
| of submission, first signal of further repression to come. Many
| Iraqi women have never worn the scarf. Now, dead bodies of girls
| and women are found in rivers and on waste ground with a veil
| tied around the head, as a message.
|
| As well as unveiled women, key targets are those who wear make-up,
| who are well educated and in the professions, and who work with
| organisations connected with the coalition forces.
Political Islamists target universities in particular. A male
university professor told me about a bright, highly intelligent young
student from Babylon University, Hilla, south of Baghdad. She had
never worn the scarf. Despite death threats to compel her to wear it,
she refused to do so and continued to attend university. She was raped
and murdered. The professor spoke of the mess made of her body. He has
since told his daughter she must either wear a scarf or leave
university. He doesn’t want her to wear the scarf nor does he want her
to leave university, but he is terrified for her life.
It is clear what the Islamic fundamentalist men want for women. Using
the will of Allah as cover, they pursue women’s conformity to almost
any interpretation of the Qu’ran. They demand women’s submission to
any male authority. Women are to lead lives without voices, as the
social, political and economic inferiors of men, even of 12-year-old
boys.
Competing futures
It was not always like this. In the pre-Saddam period, women had
opportunities for limited social progress. In 1948, Iraq had been one
of the first countries in the middle east to have a woman judge; in
1959, Nazila al-Dulaima (of the Iraqi Communist party) became one of
the first female government ministers in the Arabian peninsula. Even
under Saddam’s regime, women were free to choose whether to wear
western-style dress and make-up or the black abaya. Many wore western
dress in their jobs for government departments and in schools and
universities.
Indeed, when the Ba’ath Party took control in 1968, one of its
proclaimed goals was equality of men and women. Women’s inclusion was
a key component of the social revolution. Women were given the right
to vote, receive an education, and work outside the home. Education
was mandatory for both girls and boys up to the age of 16. Women were
strongly encouraged to attend universities and acquire professional
skills.
In 1970 the Ba’athists passed a new constitution in which women and
men were made – at least nominally – equal before the law. Women’s
rights in the political and economic spheres expanded, though family
law, which was based on Islamic law, continued to favour men.
The ferocious repression of political dissent under the Saddam Hussein
regime, which consolidated its rule, fell on women and men equally,
but particular laws (such as Law 101) – under which (alleged)
prostitution was punishable by death – impacted particularly on women.
Hundreds of women dissidents and the partners, mothers, sisters and
daughters of male dissidents were branded prostitutes and beheaded.
The need for women to play a central role in the workforce during the
exodus of men to fight in the Iran-Iraq war (1980-88) drew women into
formerly male-dominated positions, such as career military officers,
oil-project designers, and construction supervisors, scientists and
engineers, doctors, accountants and jobs in general administration. In
1989, 27 women were elected to Iraq’s 250-seat national assembly – at
10.8%, a higher ratio than the British House of Commons had at the
time, with 41 women out of 650 seats (6.3%).
A new phase opened when Saddam’s statue was forced to the ground after
the three-week conflict, in April 2003. At that point, Iraqi women’s
hopes for freedom and democracy soared. From September 2003 to
February 2004, I was in the populous south-central province, working
with women’s associations and human-rights groups in Hilla, Karbala,
Diwaniya and al-Kut. I ran workshops on democracy and human rights,
and attended conferences in Babylon University, Baghdad and Basra
alongside women from all over Iraq.
Iraqi women, encouraged by the declarations of George W Bush and Tony
Blair, said they wanted to learn how to participate in democracy; they
wanted at least 50% representation at all levels of government – local
and national; they wanted 50% representation on any council deciding
on the new constitution. Plus they wanted women’s human rights and
equal opportunities enshrined in the new constitution that Iraq’s
political representatives were to draft.
Universal intimidation, separate laws?
More than a year on, prospects are bleaker. Attacks have now expanded
from certain geographic locations to the whole country. They have also
spread to non-Muslim women. A report by Sahar al-Haideri and Wa’ad
Ibraheem for the Institute for War & Peace Reporting tells the story
of Christian lawyer Ishaq in Mosul, who received the threat, “wear the
veil or face death”. To reinforce the warning, a group of men
approached Ishaq on the street on her way to work and threw acid in
her face.
Attacks like this have frightened thousands of Christian women into
wearing the veil. Similar attacks and threats have forced a number of
women in the northern city of Mosul to give up paid work or to make
sure they are accompanied to work by a brother, a male driver or a
guard. Women have begun to fear wearing make-up. A woman who owned a
beauty salon closed it down after receiving threats.
On 26 June 2005, I took part in a conference called “Our Constitution,
Our Future”. Organised by the international NGO Women for Women, and
judiciously situated outside Iraq, on the Jordanian shores of the Dead
Sea, it focused on how best to replace restrictive laws and practices
so the new constitution conforms to international agreements,
particularly the jewel in the crown, the UN Convention on the
Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination Against Women (Cedaw).
Around 60 Iraqi men and women parliamentarians, academics, activists
and members of the drafting committee for the constitution risked
their lives to attend.
The division was clear even at the conference: progressive women and
men want a secular constitution. More extreme religious groups (which
include women) want Islamic Shari’a law.
A parallel legal system, in which citizens can opt either for
religious or civil law, is one potential compromise. This would not be
a unique and untried solution: in Lebanon Shi’a women have different
rights from Christian women, Sunni women from Shi’a and Christians;
Palestinians in Israel can choose to go to the civil court or to the
Shari’a court.
On my return to Sussex, England, from the conference, I found emails
waiting for me from Iraqi women, many of whom I know from my time in
Iraq conducting advocacy, democracy and leadership courses and helping
to start up women’s associations. Their messages describe escalating
assassinations and violence conducted by insurgents against women.
Attacks take place with impunity. In some cases the police are thought
to be implicated.
Not a women’s issue
Women make up perhaps 60% of Iraq’s population after the Iran-Iraq war
and the slaughter of perceived opponents by Saddam and his entourage.
What can be done about this “black death” spreading among Iraq’s
women?
The violence against women taking place in Iraq is not a so-called
women’s issue. The perpetrators are men. The majority of people
holding the reins of power in Iraq and the majority of leaders in the
international community are men. How can men and women talk about
democracy and human rights and somehow treat these atrocities as a
side issue?
Iraqi women want the world to know what is happening – in detail.
Iraqi women want the United Nations, and especially Muslim religious
leaders worldwide, to call for specific action to prevent the
escalating targeted assassinations of Muslim and Christian women. They
want the cowardly perpetrators punished.
The challenge for men and women committed to democracy and human
rights is to trigger a campaign of commitment from the world on the
scale of “Make Poverty History”, to make murder and violence against
women in Iraq (and the world) history, and to punish the perpetrators.
To quote the suffragette slogan: Iraqi women need deeds not words. And
they need them now.
<http://www.opendemocracy.net/conflict-iraqconflict/women_2681.jsp>
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Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: Bush ends women's rights in Iraq |
20 Jul 2005 07:56:17 AM |
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On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 03:18:36 GMT, (Fredric L. Rice) wrote:
How sad that President Bush haters will blame him for everything, with
particular emphasis on things that he has nothing to do with the issue.
duke
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| User: "David Rice, Esq." |
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| Title: Re: Bush ends women's rights in Iraq |
21 Jul 2005 12:42:44 PM |
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On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 07:56:17 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 03:18:36 GMT, (Fredric L. Rice) wrote:
How sad that President Bush haters will blame him for everything, with
particular emphasis on things that he has nothing to do with the issue.
ROTFL!!!!! Oh, man! That was so funny it blew my irony meter off
the surface of the planet and into orbit!
Nearly 10,000 USA soldiers dead from the invasion of Iraq;
trillions of dollars wasted; some 130,000 Iraqis, mostly women and
children, dead; an empty USA treasury; the revocation of civil and
human rights in the USA; American concentration camps where USA
citizens are taken in the dead of night and "dissapeared" without
being charged with any crime, to be tortured; the USA economy
roaring in a tail-spin into depression.... and dickless here calls
nay-sayers "haters." LOL!
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: Bush ends women's rights in Iraq |
21 Jul 2005 01:27:24 PM |
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On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 17:42:44 GMT, (David Rice, Esq.)
wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 07:56:17 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 03:18:36 GMT, (Fredric L. Rice) wrote:
How sad that President Bush haters will blame him for everything, with
particular emphasis on things that he has nothing to do with the issue.
ROTFL!!!!! Oh, man! That was so funny it blew my irony meter off
the surface of the planet and into orbit!
Nearly 10,000 USA soldiers dead from the invasion of Iraq;
trillions of dollars wasted; some 130,000 Iraqis, mostly women and
children, dead; an empty USA treasury; the revocation of civil and
human rights in the USA; American concentration camps where USA
citizens are taken in the dead of night and "dissapeared" without
being charged with any crime, to be tortured; the USA economy
roaring in a tail-spin into depression.... and dickless here calls
nay-sayers "haters." LOL!
BUT, little dickless dummy, what does that have to do with President Bush ending
woman's rights in Iraq?
duke
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Pope Paul VI
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| User: "Ben Goren" |
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| Title: Re: Bush ends women's rights in Iraq |
23 Jul 2005 01:39:50 PM |
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duke wrote:
David Rice, Esq. wrote:
duke wrote:
How sad that President Bush haters will blame him for
everything, with particular emphasis on things that he has
nothing to do with the issue.
ROTFL!!!!! Oh, man! That was so funny it blew my irony meter
off the surface of the planet and into orbit!
Nearly 10,000 USA soldiers dead from the invasion of Iraq;
trillions of dollars wasted; some 130,000 Iraqis, mostly women
and children, dead; an empty USA treasury; the revocation of
civil and human rights in the USA; American concentration
camps where USA citizens are taken in the dead of night
and "dissapeared" without being charged with any crime,
to be tortured; the USA economy roaring in a tail-spin
into depression.... and dickless here calls nay-sayers
"haters." LOL!
BUT, little dickless dummy, what does that have to do with
President Bush ending woman's rights in Iraq?
Why, duke! I'm so proud of you! You may actually have a prayer,
yet.
Yes, indeed, it took courage to acknowledge that Bush is
responsible for the deaths of so many thousands of innocents, for
raping the Constitution and terrorizing American citizens, and for
stealing America's wealth to give to his cronies.
Stand tall, my friend, for on this day you have taken your first
steps towards reclaiming your humanity.
Cheers,
b&
P.S. Figured out the whole ``God has free will but isn't evil; we
have free will but are evil'' bit, yet? b&
--
BAAWA Knight of Blasphemy
All but God can prove this sentence true.
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| Title: Re: Bush ends women's rights in Iraq |
20 Jul 2005 10:22:58 AM |
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duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 03:18:36 GMT, (Fredric L. Rice) wrote:
How sad that President Bush haters
Rape, torture, murder, genocide all by the orders of the Christian gods.
I mean what's not to love, right?
Try again, rightard terrorist defending Christian scumbag:
| Iraq's war on women
| Lesley Abdela
| 18 - 7 - 2005
| Violence and intimidation against women are escalating across Iraq.
| The world's commitment is needed to halt this assault on human and
| democratic rights, says Lesley Abdela.
|
| Just as Iraqi women were anticipating a new era of democracy and
| freedom, a wave of intimidation by extremist groups has arisen to
| crush their hopes. Violent oppression of women is spreading across
| Iraq, a weapon of mass mental and physical destruction. And yet
| there is silence from world leaders, religious leaders,
| politicians and the media.
|
| Insurgents and religious extremists use rape, acid and
| assassination to force Iraqi women to wear the veil -- the symbol
| of submission, first signal of further repression to come. Many
| Iraqi women have never worn the scarf. Now, dead bodies of girls
| and women are found in rivers and on waste ground with a veil
| tied around the head, as a message.
|
| As well as unveiled women, key targets are those who wear make-up,
| who are well educated and in the professions, and who work with
| organisations connected with the coalition forces.
| ...
<http://www.opendemocracy.net/conflict-iraqconflict/women_2681.jsp>
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20 Jul 2005 05:04:57 PM |
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On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 15:22:58 GMT, (Fredric L. Rice) wrote:
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 03:18:36 GMT, (Fredric L. Rice) wrote:
How sad that President Bush haters
Rape, torture, murder, genocide all by the orders of the Christian gods.
You are a blithering jerk, rice.
I mean what's not to love, right?
Try again, rightard terrorist defending Christian scumbag:
| Iraq's war on women
| Lesley Abdela
| 18 - 7 - 2005
| Violence and intimidation against women are escalating across Iraq.
| The world's commitment is needed to halt this assault on human and
| democratic rights, says Lesley Abdela.
|
| Just as Iraqi women were anticipating a new era of democracy and
| freedom, a wave of intimidation by extremist groups has arisen to
| crush their hopes. Violent oppression of women is spreading across
| Iraq, a weapon of mass mental and physical destruction. And yet
| there is silence from world leaders, religious leaders,
| politicians and the media.
|
| Insurgents and religious extremists use rape, acid and
| assassination to force Iraqi women to wear the veil -- the symbol
| of submission, first signal of further repression to come. Many
| Iraqi women have never worn the scarf. Now, dead bodies of girls
| and women are found in rivers and on waste ground with a veil
| tied around the head, as a message.
|
| As well as unveiled women, key targets are those who wear make-up,
| who are well educated and in the professions, and who work with
| organisations connected with the coalition forces.
| ...
<http://www.opendemocracy.net/conflict-iraqconflict/women_2681.jsp>
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| Title: Re: Bush ends women's rights in Iraq |
20 Jul 2005 08:33:46 PM |
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duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 15:22:58 GMT, (Fredric L. Rice) wrote:
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 03:18:36 GMT, (Fredric L. Rice) wrote:
How sad that President Bush haters
Rape, torture, murder, genocide all by the orders of the Christian gods.
You are a blithering jerk, rice.
Translation: You can't defend what Christianity is and what it does.
I mean what's not to love, right?
Try again, rightard terrorist defending Christian scumbag:
| Iraq's war on women
| Lesley Abdela
| 18 - 7 - 2005
| Violence and intimidation against women are escalating across Iraq.
| The world's commitment is needed to halt this assault on human and
| democratic rights, says Lesley Abdela.
|
| Just as Iraqi women were anticipating a new era of democracy and
| freedom, a wave of intimidation by extremist groups has arisen to
| crush their hopes. Violent oppression of women is spreading across
| Iraq, a weapon of mass mental and physical destruction. And yet
| there is silence from world leaders, religious leaders,
| politicians and the media.
|
| Insurgents and religious extremists use rape, acid and
| assassination to force Iraqi women to wear the veil -- the symbol
| of submission, first signal of further repression to come. Many
| Iraqi women have never worn the scarf. Now, dead bodies of girls
| and women are found in rivers and on waste ground with a veil
| tied around the head, as a message.
|
| As well as unveiled women, key targets are those who wear make-up,
| who are well educated and in the professions, and who work with
| organisations connected with the coalition forces.
| ...
<http://www.opendemocracy.net/conflict-iraqconflict/women_2681.jsp>
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: Bush ends women's rights in Iraq |
21 Jul 2005 01:25:17 PM |
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On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 01:33:46 GMT, (Fredric L. Rice) wrote:
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 15:22:58 GMT, (Fredric L. Rice) wrote:
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 03:18:36 GMT, (Fredric L. Rice) wrote:
How sad that President Bush haters
Rape, torture, murder, genocide all by the orders of the Christian gods.
You are a blithering jerk, rice.
Translation: You can't defend what Christianity is and what it does.
Sure I can, but what does that have to do with President George Bush and rape,
torture, murder, genocide all by the orders of the Christian gods.
BTW, there's only one God, you blithering jerk.
duke
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| User: "Tak" |
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21 Jul 2005 03:29:00 PM |
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On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 13:25:17 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
of the Christian gods.
BTW, there's only one God, you blithering jerk.
J.R "BOB" Dobbs!
Learn his truth now! His miracles are witnessed by many so they have
to be true!
http://www.subgenius.com/
Eternal Salvation or TRIPLE YOUR MONEY BACK!
The other cults can't touch it!
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It has to be true Duke! It was written down, and there are
witnesses! Living ones even! :)
Tak
a#344
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21 Jul 2005 09:12:48 PM |
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duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 01:33:46 GMT, (Fredric L. Rice) wrote:
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 15:22:58 GMT, (Fredric L. Rice) wrote:
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 03:18:36 GMT, (Fredric L. Rice) wrote:
How sad that President Bush haters
Rape, torture, murder, genocide all by the orders of the Christian gods.
You are a blithering jerk, rice.
Translation: You can't defend what Christianity is and what it does.
Sure I can
You may begin at any time.
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| User: "duke" |
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22 Jul 2005 03:22:17 PM |
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On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 02:12:48 GMT, (Fredric L. Rice) wrote:
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 01:33:46 GMT, (Fredric L. Rice) wrote:
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 15:22:58 GMT, (Fredric L. Rice) wrote:
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 03:18:36 GMT, (Fredric L. Rice) wrote:
How sad that President Bush haters
Rape, torture, murder, genocide all by the orders of the Christian gods.
You are a blithering jerk, rice.
Translation: You can't defend what Christianity is and what it does.
Sure I can
You may begin at any time.
Sure, elmer fudd, it's stated premise as a new commandment is that "we love one
another as God loves us."
duke
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22 Jul 2005 11:42:25 PM |
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duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 02:12:48 GMT, (Fredric L. Rice) wrote:
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 01:33:46 GMT, (Fredric L. Rice) wrote:
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 15:22:58 GMT, (Fredric L. Rice) wrote:
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 03:18:36 GMT, (Fredric L. Rice) wrote:
How sad that President Bush haters
Rape, torture, murder, genocide all by the orders of the Christian gods.
You are a blithering jerk, rice.
Translation: You can't defend what Christianity is and what it does.
Sure I can
You may begin at any time.
Sure, elmer fudd
Is there some reason why you won't? Or can't?
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23 Jul 2005 07:10:54 AM |
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On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 04:42:25 GMT, (Fredric L. Rice) wrote:
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 02:12:48 GMT, (Fredric L. Rice) wrote:
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 01:33:46 GMT, (Fredric L. Rice) wrote:
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 15:22:58 GMT, (Fredric L. Rice) wrote:
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 03:18:36 GMT, (Fredric L. Rice) wrote:
How sad that President Bush haters
Rape, torture, murder, genocide all by the orders of the Christian gods.
You are a blithering jerk, rice.
Translation: You can't defend what Christianity is and what it does.
Sure I can
You may begin at any time.
Sure, elmer fudd
Is there some reason why you won't? Or can't?
I keep trying to help you, elmer fudd.
duke
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| Title: Re: Bush ends women's rights in Iraq |
23 Jul 2005 01:10:56 PM |
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duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 04:42:25 GMT, (Fredric L. Rice) wrote:
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 02:12:48 GMT, (Fredric L. Rice) wrote:
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 01:33:46 GMT, (Fredric L. Rice) wrote:
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 15:22:58 GMT, (Fredric L. Rice) wrote:
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 03:18:36 GMT, (Fredric L. Rice) wrote:
How sad that President Bush haters
Rape, torture, murder, genocide all by the orders of the Christian gods.
You are a blithering jerk, rice.
Translation: You can't defend what Christianity is and what it does.
Sure I can
You may begin at any time.
Sure, elmer fudd
Is there some reason why you won't? Or can't?
I keep trying to help you, elmer fudd.
You may begin at any time. }:-}
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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| Title: Re: Bush ends women's rights in Iraq |
23 Jul 2005 12:51:31 PM |
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duke wrote:
On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 04:42:25 GMT, (Fredric L. Rice) wrote:
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 02:12:48 GMT, (Fredric L. Rice) wrote:
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 01:33:46 GMT, (Fredric L. Rice) wrote:
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 15:22:58 GMT, (Fredric L. Rice) wrote:
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 03:18:36 GMT, (Fredric L. Rice) wrote:
How sad that President Bush haters
Rape, torture, murder, genocide all by the orders of the Christian gods.
You are a blithering jerk, rice.
Translation: You can't defend what Christianity is and what it does.
Sure I can
You may begin at any time.
Sure, elmer fudd
Is there some reason why you won't? Or can't?
I keep trying to help you, elmer fudd.
Then begin at any time.
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* DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 *
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* "No one ever demonstrated, so far as I am aware, *
* the non-existence of Zeus or Thor - but they *
* have few followers now." Arthur C. Clarke *
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| User: "Michelle Malkin" |
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| Title: Re: Bush ends women's rights in Iraq |
23 Jul 2005 05:46:40 PM |
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"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:DsvEe.1619$mU3.912@trnddc02...
duke wrote:
On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 04:42:25 GMT, (Fredric L.
Rice) wrote:
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 02:12:48 GMT, (Fredric L.
Rice) wrote:
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 01:33:46 GMT, (Fredric L.
Rice) wrote:
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 15:22:58 GMT, (Fredric L.
Rice) wrote:
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 03:18:36 GMT, (Fredric
L. Rice) wrote:
How sad that President Bush haters
Rape, torture, murder, genocide all by the orders of the Christian
gods.
You are a blithering jerk, rice.
Translation: You can't defend what Christianity is and what it does.
Sure I can
You may begin at any time.
Sure, elmer fudd
Is there some reason why you won't? Or can't?
I keep trying to help you, elmer fudd.
Then begin at any time.
Apparently, Duke is trying to tell us that Christianity is a Warner
Bothers cartoon. He just can't quite put it into words.
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| User: "Fredric L. Rice" |
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| Title: Re: Bush ends women's rights in Iraq |
24 Jul 2005 11:51:53 AM |
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"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:DsvEe.1619$mU3.912@trnddc02...
duke wrote:
I keep trying to help you, elmer fudd.
Then begin at any time.
Apparently, Duke is trying to tell us that Christianity is a Warner
Bothers cartoon. He just can't quite put it into words.
He could do what Calvin Hobbs does: claim it involves a lot of
math and nobody else would be able to understand it. }:-}
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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| Title: Re: Bush ends women's rights in Iraq |
23 Jul 2005 08:57:05 PM |
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Michelle Malkin wrote:
"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:DsvEe.1619$mU3.912@trnddc02...
duke wrote:
On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 04:42:25 GMT, (Fredric L.
Rice) wrote:
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 02:12:48 GMT, (Fredric L.
Rice) wrote:
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 01:33:46 GMT, (Fredric L.
Rice) wrote:
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 15:22:58 GMT, (Fredric L.
Rice) wrote:
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 03:18:36 GMT, (Fredric
L. Rice) wrote:
How sad that President Bush haters
Rape, torture, murder, genocide all by the orders of the Christian
gods.
You are a blithering jerk, rice.
Translation: You can't defend what Christianity is and what it does.
Sure I can
You may begin at any time.
Sure, elmer fudd
Is there some reason why you won't? Or can't?
I keep trying to help you, elmer fudd.
Then begin at any time.
Apparently, Duke is trying to tell us that Christianity is a Warner
Bothers cartoon. He just can't quite put it into words.
"Be vewy, vewy quiet. I'm huntin' atheiths. Huhuhuhuhuhuh."
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* DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 *
*--------------------------------------------------*
* "No one ever demonstrated, so far as I am aware, *
* the non-existence of Zeus or Thor - but they *
* have few followers now." Arthur C. Clarke *
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| User: "nJb" |
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| Title: Re: Bush ends women's rights in Iraq |
24 Jul 2005 01:48:58 AM |
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DanielSan wrote:
Michelle Malkin wrote:
"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:DsvEe.1619$mU3.912@trnddc02...
duke wrote:
On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 04:42:25 GMT, (Fredric L.
Rice) wrote:
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 02:12:48 GMT, (Fredric L.
Rice) wrote:
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 01:33:46 GMT, (Fredric L.
Rice) wrote:
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 15:22:58 GMT,
(Fredric L.
Rice) wrote:
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 03:18:36 GMT,
(Fredric
L. Rice) wrote:
How sad that President Bush haters
Rape, torture, murder, genocide all by the orders of the
Christian
gods.
You are a blithering jerk, rice.
Translation: You can't defend what Christianity is and what it
does.
Sure I can
You may begin at any time.
Sure, elmer fudd
Is there some reason why you won't? Or can't?
I keep trying to help you, elmer fudd.
Then begin at any time.
Apparently, Duke is trying to tell us that Christianity is a Warner
Bothers cartoon. He just can't quite put it into words.
"Be vewy, vewy quiet. I'm huntin' atheiths. Huhuhuhuhuhuh."
A thea, thea, thea, that's all folks.
--
Jack
Plonked by Native American
bobo1148atxmissiondotcom
http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/xmissionbobo/
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: Bush ends women's rights in Iraq |
24 Jul 2005 08:23:18 AM |
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On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 18:46:40 -0400, "Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net>
wrote:
I keep trying to help you, elmer fudd.
Then begin at any time.
Apparently, Duke is trying to tell us that Christianity is a Warner
Bothers cartoon. He just can't quite put it into words.
Or, my doorknob has more conversational intelligence than the average atheist.
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "Fredric L. Rice" |
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| Title: Re: Bush ends women's rights in Iraq |
24 Jul 2005 11:51:54 AM |
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duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 18:46:40 -0400, "Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
I keep trying to help you, elmer fudd.
Then begin at any time.
Apparently, Duke is trying to tell us that Christianity is a Warner
Bothers cartoon. He just can't quite put it into words.
Or, my doorknob has more conversational intelligence than the average atheist.
And yet you're the one delusionally thinking he's got invisible
superfriend playmates. Could it be that nobody else will play
with you?
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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| Title: Re: Bush ends women's rights in Iraq |
24 Jul 2005 08:23:34 AM |
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duke wrote:
On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 18:46:40 -0400, "Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net>
wrote:
I keep trying to help you, elmer fudd.
Then begin at any time.
Apparently, Duke is trying to tell us that Christianity is a Warner
Bothers cartoon. He just can't quite put it into words.
Or, my doorknob has more conversational intelligence than the average atheist.
Yet you seem to not be able to win any arguments with your perceived
doorknob. Wonder what this means...
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* DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 *
*--------------------------------------------------*
* "No one ever demonstrated, so far as I am aware, *
* the non-existence of Zeus or Thor - but they *
* have few followers now." Arthur C. Clarke *
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