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"johac" |
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24 Oct 2006 01:53:25 AM |
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Bush GAWD talk creeped out Schroeder. |
No kidding. He scares me too.
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By Erik KirschbaumSun Oct 22, 10:18 AM ET
Ex-German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder has written in a new book that
George W. Bush's frequent references to God in their meetings before the
Iraq war had made him wary of the U.S. president's political decisions.
Schroeder wrote in an advance excerpt of his memoirs that Germany had
stood by its vow of "unlimited solidarity" after the September 11
attacks in 2001. But Germany stayed out of Iraq, causing a breach in
U.S.-German ties.
He said in "Decisions: My Life in Politics," published on Sunday in Der
Spiegel magazine, he was alarmed by Bush's talk of God, which made him
fear religion influenced decisions.
"What worried me, despite a relaxed atmosphere to our talks, and to a
certain degree what made me sceptical was how much it came through that
this president saw himself as 'God-fearing' and saw that as the highest
authority," Schroeder wrote.
Schroeder, a Social Democrat who left politics after his party lost a
2005 election to end his seven years in power, said he had no qualms
with Bush's Christian faith but could not escape a fear religion was a
driving force behind his decisions.
"I can well understand if someone is devout and strives for a dialogue
with God, in this case prayer. The problem that I have with that starts
when the impression arises that political decisions are the result of a
dialogue with God."
Schroeder said the problem with decisions made in "dialogue with God" is
they cannot be modified or negotiated. Bush broke off ties with
Schroeder for a while after he publicly questioned the wisdom of
invading Iraq as part of his war on terrorism.
Even though Schroeder said he wept when the United States was attacked
on 9/11, his anti-war stance on Iraq a year later helped him win
re-election just months before the U.S. invasion.
"Anyone who tries to legitimize political decisions that way (in
dialogue with God) simply cannot allow these decisions to be changed
through criticism or an exchange of ideas. Because if you do, you then
breach the mission from God," Schroeder wrote.
"This absoluteness I saw in the American president in 2002, not only in
our private talks but also in his public comments, reinforced my
political skepticism -- even though I personally like America and its
president."
Germany had sent nearly 4,000 troops to support the U.S.-led war on
terrorism in Afghanistan and Africa before that in 2001.
Schroeder wrote he believes in the separation between church and state.
"Quite rightly we criticize that in most Islamic states the role of
religion in society and the secular character of the legal system are
not clearly separated. But we haven't taken note as readily of the U.S.
Christian fundamentalists and their interpretation of the bible that
show similar tendencies.
"There is thus little scope for peaceful resolutions if both sides claim
to have a monopoly on the only truth."
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John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Bush GAWD talk creeped out Schroeder. |
24 Oct 2006 11:37:16 AM |
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On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 23:53:25 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
"What worried me, despite a relaxed atmosphere to our talks, and to a
certain degree what made me sceptical was how much it came through that
this president saw himself as 'God-fearing' and saw that as the highest
authority," Schroeder wrote.
Schroeder, a Social Democrat who left politics after his party lost a
2005 election to end his seven years in power, said he had no qualms
with Bush's Christian faith but could not escape a fear religion was a
driving force behind his decisions.
"I can well understand if someone is devout and strives for a dialogue
with God, in this case prayer. The problem that I have with that starts
when the impression arises that political decisions are the result of a
dialogue with God."
How many laws has he signed that he indicated he would ignore or
violate? He does what he thinks his god wants him to do, not what he
swore an oath to do - uphold secular law. Even though his god
requires him to keep oaths he swears in that god's name. Salad,
anyone?
Schroeder wrote he believes in the separation between church and state.
"Quite rightly we criticize that in most Islamic states the role of
religion in society and the secular character of the legal system are
not clearly separated. But we haven't taken note as readily of the U.S.
Christian fundamentalists and their interpretation of the bible that
show similar tendencies.
"There is thus little scope for peaceful resolutions if both sides claim
to have a monopoly on the only truth."
The only ones who *can't* see this, obviously, are the religious nuts
in this country. The entire rest of the world sees it very clearly.
--
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"Never in human history have such genocide and cruelty been
witnessed. Such a genocide was never seen in the time of the pharaohs nor
of Hitler nor of Mussolini."
- Mehmet Elkatmi, head of Turkish parliament's human rights commission
on Bush's genocide in the Iraq war. 11-28-2004
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Bush GAWD talk creeped out Schroeder. |
25 Oct 2006 01:03:01 AM |
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In article <71gsj2pe4t327gtdk8fc6quicfe4340p95@4ax.com>,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 23:53:25 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
"What worried me, despite a relaxed atmosphere to our talks, and to a
certain degree what made me sceptical was how much it came through that
this president saw himself as 'God-fearing' and saw that as the highest
authority," Schroeder wrote.
Schroeder, a Social Democrat who left politics after his party lost a
2005 election to end his seven years in power, said he had no qualms
with Bush's Christian faith but could not escape a fear religion was a
driving force behind his decisions.
"I can well understand if someone is devout and strives for a dialogue
with God, in this case prayer. The problem that I have with that starts
when the impression arises that political decisions are the result of a
dialogue with God."
How many laws has he signed that he indicated he would ignore or
violate? He does what he thinks his god wants him to do, not what he
swore an oath to do - uphold secular law. Even though his god
requires him to keep oaths he swears in that god's name. Salad,
anyone?
Based on actions like that and as implied in Kuo's book "Tempting
Faith", these bastards are cynical hypocrites. They pretend to be so
holy that they can converse directly with God, and then the proceed to
break every Commandment that they can. If there were a Jesus, he would
hang his head in shame every time one of these thugs called themself
'Christian'.
Schroeder wrote he believes in the separation between church and state.
"Quite rightly we criticize that in most Islamic states the role of
religion in society and the secular character of the legal system are
not clearly separated. But we haven't taken note as readily of the U.S.
Christian fundamentalists and their interpretation of the bible that
show similar tendencies.
"There is thus little scope for peaceful resolutions if both sides claim
to have a monopoly on the only truth."
The only ones who *can't* see this, obviously, are the religious nuts
in this country.
And the easily deceived sheep who vote them into office.
The entire rest of the world sees it very clearly.
And they fear us.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Bush GAWD talk creeped out Schroeder. |
25 Oct 2006 02:50:49 AM |
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On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 23:03:01 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
In article <71gsj2pe4t327gtdk8fc6quicfe4340p95@4ax.com>,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
How many laws has he signed that he indicated he would ignore or
violate? He does what he thinks his god wants him to do, not what he
swore an oath to do - uphold secular law. Even though his god
requires him to keep oaths he swears in that god's name. Salad,
anyone?
Based on actions like that and as implied in Kuo's book "Tempting
Faith", these bastards are cynical hypocrites.
They're also guilty of sedition and high treason, among other crimes.
They pretend to be so
holy that they can converse directly with God, and then the proceed to
break every Commandment that they can. If there were a Jesus, he would
hang his head in shame every time one of these thugs called themself
'Christian'.
If there's a government following their reign, someone should make
them hang their heads in prison.
Schroeder wrote he believes in the separation between church and state.
"Quite rightly we criticize that in most Islamic states the role of
religion in society and the secular character of the legal system are
not clearly separated. But we haven't taken note as readily of the U.S.
Christian fundamentalists and their interpretation of the bible that
show similar tendencies.
"There is thus little scope for peaceful resolutions if both sides claim
to have a monopoly on the only truth."
The only ones who *can't* see this, obviously, are the religious nuts
in this country.
And the easily deceived sheep who vote them into office.
Who are the religious nuts I referred to.
The entire rest of the world sees it very clearly.
And they fear us.
Not us - just those in power. I hope.
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
Is he willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is impotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Whence then comes evil?
-Epicurus, 3rd c. BCE
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Bush GAWD talk creeped out Schroeder. |
25 Oct 2006 11:54:10 PM |
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In article <2m5uj2h0jqc54m5fo0n8svltfeu41m4t8v@4ax.com>,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 23:03:01 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
In article <71gsj2pe4t327gtdk8fc6quicfe4340p95@4ax.com>,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
How many laws has he signed that he indicated he would ignore or
violate? He does what he thinks his god wants him to do, not what he
swore an oath to do - uphold secular law. Even though his god
requires him to keep oaths he swears in that god's name. Salad,
anyone?
Based on actions like that and as implied in Kuo's book "Tempting
Faith", these bastards are cynical hypocrites.
They're also guilty of sedition and high treason, among other crimes.
For starters. I would also like to see their relationships with
corporate interests, such as what went on in that top secret meeting
between Cheney and the oil execs, and who is raking in the money on the
Iraq war profiteering.
They pretend to be so
holy that they can converse directly with God, and then the proceed to
break every Commandment that they can. If there were a Jesus, he would
hang his head in shame every time one of these thugs called themself
'Christian'.
If there's a government following their reign, someone should make
them hang their heads in prison.
I know of a nice little prison on a tropical island where we could send
them.
Schroeder wrote he believes in the separation between church and state.
"Quite rightly we criticize that in most Islamic states the role of
religion in society and the secular character of the legal system are
not clearly separated. But we haven't taken note as readily of the U.S.
Christian fundamentalists and their interpretation of the bible that
show similar tendencies.
"There is thus little scope for peaceful resolutions if both sides claim
to have a monopoly on the only truth."
The only ones who *can't* see this, obviously, are the religious nuts
in this country.
And the easily deceived sheep who vote them into office.
Who are the religious nuts I referred to.
Yes.
The entire rest of the world sees it very clearly.
And they fear us.
Not us - just those in power. I hope.
I'm sure that the intelligent people can discern the difference between
the American people and their government. I'm sure that many feel sorry
for us.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Bush GAWD talk creeped out Schroeder. |
26 Oct 2006 04:58:37 AM |
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On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 21:54:10 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-FC2012.21541025102006@news.giganews.com>
In article <2m5uj2h0jqc54m5fo0n8svltfeu41m4t8v@4ax.com>,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 23:03:01 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
In article <71gsj2pe4t327gtdk8fc6quicfe4340p95@4ax.com>,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
How many laws has he signed that he indicated he would ignore or
violate? He does what he thinks his god wants him to do, not what he
swore an oath to do - uphold secular law. Even though his god
requires him to keep oaths he swears in that god's name. Salad,
anyone?
Based on actions like that and as implied in Kuo's book "Tempting
Faith", these bastards are cynical hypocrites.
They're also guilty of sedition and high treason, among other crimes.
For starters. I would also like to see their relationships with
corporate interests, such as what went on in that top secret meeting
between Cheney and the oil execs, and who is raking in the money on the
Iraq war profiteering.
They pretend to be so
holy that they can converse directly with God, and then the proceed to
break every Commandment that they can. If there were a Jesus, he would
hang his head in shame every time one of these thugs called themself
'Christian'.
If there's a government following their reign, someone should make
them hang their heads in prison.
I know of a nice little prison on a tropical island where we could send
them.
Schroeder wrote he believes in the separation between church and state.
"Quite rightly we criticize that in most Islamic states the role of
religion in society and the secular character of the legal system are
not clearly separated. But we haven't taken note as readily of the U.S.
Christian fundamentalists and their interpretation of the bible that
show similar tendencies.
"There is thus little scope for peaceful resolutions if both sides claim
to have a monopoly on the only truth."
The only ones who *can't* see this, obviously, are the religious nuts
in this country.
And the easily deceived sheep who vote them into office.
Who are the religious nuts I referred to.
Yes.
The entire rest of the world sees it very clearly.
And they fear us.
Not us - just those in power. I hope.
I'm sure that the intelligent people can discern the difference between
the American people and their government. I'm sure that many feel sorry
for us.
Most here** do make a very profound distinction, for what it is worth.
To us, politicians, bureaucrats, and grasping power-hungry short-term
thinking business owners*** are a different species from us natives
and descendents of convicts.
** Oz.
*** Pub owners excepted.
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| User: "johac" |
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27 Oct 2006 12:02:14 AM |
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In article <eg11k2h9cua406oof8dla99paaul2hhuqj@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:
On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 21:54:10 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-FC2012.21541025102006@news.giganews.com>
In article <2m5uj2h0jqc54m5fo0n8svltfeu41m4t8v@4ax.com>,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 23:03:01 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
In article <71gsj2pe4t327gtdk8fc6quicfe4340p95@4ax.com>,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
How many laws has he signed that he indicated he would ignore or
violate? He does what he thinks his god wants him to do, not what he
swore an oath to do - uphold secular law. Even though his god
requires him to keep oaths he swears in that god's name. Salad,
anyone?
Based on actions like that and as implied in Kuo's book "Tempting
Faith", these bastards are cynical hypocrites.
They're also guilty of sedition and high treason, among other crimes.
For starters. I would also like to see their relationships with
corporate interests, such as what went on in that top secret meeting
between Cheney and the oil execs, and who is raking in the money on the
Iraq war profiteering.
They pretend to be so
holy that they can converse directly with God, and then the proceed to
break every Commandment that they can. If there were a Jesus, he would
hang his head in shame every time one of these thugs called themself
'Christian'.
If there's a government following their reign, someone should make
them hang their heads in prison.
I know of a nice little prison on a tropical island where we could send
them.
Schroeder wrote he believes in the separation between church and
state.
"Quite rightly we criticize that in most Islamic states the role of
religion in society and the secular character of the legal system are
not clearly separated. But we haven't taken note as readily of the
U.S.
Christian fundamentalists and their interpretation of the bible that
show similar tendencies.
"There is thus little scope for peaceful resolutions if both sides
claim
to have a monopoly on the only truth."
The only ones who *can't* see this, obviously, are the religious nuts
in this country.
And the easily deceived sheep who vote them into office.
Who are the religious nuts I referred to.
Yes.
The entire rest of the world sees it very clearly.
And they fear us.
Not us - just those in power. I hope.
I'm sure that the intelligent people can discern the difference between
the American people and their government. I'm sure that many feel sorry
for us.
Most here** do make a very profound distinction, for what it is worth.
To us, politicians, bureaucrats, and grasping power-hungry short-term
thinking business owners*** are a different species from us natives
and descendents of convicts.
I've found that usually it's not the ordinary people who are the
problem. It's the politicians, religious leaders, and corporate bosses
who mostly screw things up.
** Oz.
*** Pub owners excepted.
And bar owners too.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Bush GAWD talk creeped out Schroeder. |
27 Oct 2006 03:04:36 AM |
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On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 22:02:14 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-66F0EE.22021426102006@news.giganews.com>
In article <eg11k2h9cua406oof8dla99paaul2hhuqj@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:
On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 21:54:10 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-FC2012.21541025102006@news.giganews.com>
In article <2m5uj2h0jqc54m5fo0n8svltfeu41m4t8v@4ax.com>,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 23:03:01 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
In article <71gsj2pe4t327gtdk8fc6quicfe4340p95@4ax.com>,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
How many laws has he signed that he indicated he would ignore or
violate? He does what he thinks his god wants him to do, not what he
swore an oath to do - uphold secular law. Even though his god
requires him to keep oaths he swears in that god's name. Salad,
anyone?
Based on actions like that and as implied in Kuo's book "Tempting
Faith", these bastards are cynical hypocrites.
They're also guilty of sedition and high treason, among other crimes.
For starters. I would also like to see their relationships with
corporate interests, such as what went on in that top secret meeting
between Cheney and the oil execs, and who is raking in the money on the
Iraq war profiteering.
They pretend to be so
holy that they can converse directly with God, and then the proceed to
break every Commandment that they can. If there were a Jesus, he would
hang his head in shame every time one of these thugs called themself
'Christian'.
If there's a government following their reign, someone should make
them hang their heads in prison.
I know of a nice little prison on a tropical island where we could send
them.
Schroeder wrote he believes in the separation between church and
state.
"Quite rightly we criticize that in most Islamic states the role of
religion in society and the secular character of the legal system are
not clearly separated. But we haven't taken note as readily of the
U.S.
Christian fundamentalists and their interpretation of the bible that
show similar tendencies.
"There is thus little scope for peaceful resolutions if both sides
claim
to have a monopoly on the only truth."
The only ones who *can't* see this, obviously, are the religious nuts
in this country.
And the easily deceived sheep who vote them into office.
Who are the religious nuts I referred to.
Yes.
The entire rest of the world sees it very clearly.
And they fear us.
Not us - just those in power. I hope.
I'm sure that the intelligent people can discern the difference between
the American people and their government. I'm sure that many feel sorry
for us.
Most here** do make a very profound distinction, for what it is worth.
To us, politicians, bureaucrats, and grasping power-hungry short-term
thinking business owners*** are a different species from us natives
and descendents of convicts.
I've found that usually it's not the ordinary people who are the
problem. It's the politicians, religious leaders, and corporate bosses
who mostly screw things up.
It's even worse when you get the 3 combined, Dubya springs to mind as
an egregious example.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Bush GAWD talk creeped out Schroeder. |
28 Oct 2006 01:00:00 AM |
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In article <2bf3k2dakhv7i93ef66cbme0jp9mopuo7d@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:
On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 22:02:14 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-66F0EE.22021426102006@news.giganews.com>
In article <eg11k2h9cua406oof8dla99paaul2hhuqj@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:
On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 21:54:10 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-FC2012.21541025102006@news.giganews.com>
In article <2m5uj2h0jqc54m5fo0n8svltfeu41m4t8v@4ax.com>,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 23:03:01 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
In article <71gsj2pe4t327gtdk8fc6quicfe4340p95@4ax.com>,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
How many laws has he signed that he indicated he would ignore or
violate? He does what he thinks his god wants him to do, not what
he
swore an oath to do - uphold secular law. Even though his god
requires him to keep oaths he swears in that god's name. Salad,
anyone?
Based on actions like that and as implied in Kuo's book "Tempting
Faith", these bastards are cynical hypocrites.
They're also guilty of sedition and high treason, among other crimes.
For starters. I would also like to see their relationships with
corporate interests, such as what went on in that top secret meeting
between Cheney and the oil execs, and who is raking in the money on the
Iraq war profiteering.
They pretend to be so
holy that they can converse directly with God, and then the proceed to
break every Commandment that they can. If there were a Jesus, he would
hang his head in shame every time one of these thugs called themself
'Christian'.
If there's a government following their reign, someone should make
them hang their heads in prison.
I know of a nice little prison on a tropical island where we could send
them.
Schroeder wrote he believes in the separation between church and
state.
"Quite rightly we criticize that in most Islamic states the role of
religion in society and the secular character of the legal system
are
not clearly separated. But we haven't taken note as readily of the
U.S.
Christian fundamentalists and their interpretation of the bible
that
show similar tendencies.
"There is thus little scope for peaceful resolutions if both sides
claim
to have a monopoly on the only truth."
The only ones who *can't* see this, obviously, are the religious
nuts
in this country.
And the easily deceived sheep who vote them into office.
Who are the religious nuts I referred to.
Yes.
The entire rest of the world sees it very clearly.
And they fear us.
Not us - just those in power. I hope.
I'm sure that the intelligent people can discern the difference between
the American people and their government. I'm sure that many feel sorry
for us.
Most here** do make a very profound distinction, for what it is worth.
To us, politicians, bureaucrats, and grasping power-hungry short-term
thinking business owners*** are a different species from us natives
and descendents of convicts.
I've found that usually it's not the ordinary people who are the
problem. It's the politicians, religious leaders, and corporate bosses
who mostly screw things up.
It's even worse when you get the 3 combined, Dubya springs to mind as
an egregious example.
And most of those in his administration.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Bush GAWD talk creeped out Schroeder. |
28 Oct 2006 08:04:14 AM |
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On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 23:00:00 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-046BD3.23000027102006@news.giganews.com>
In article <2bf3k2dakhv7i93ef66cbme0jp9mopuo7d@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:
On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 22:02:14 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-66F0EE.22021426102006@news.giganews.com>
In article <eg11k2h9cua406oof8dla99paaul2hhuqj@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:
On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 21:54:10 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-FC2012.21541025102006@news.giganews.com>
In article <2m5uj2h0jqc54m5fo0n8svltfeu41m4t8v@4ax.com>,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 23:03:01 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
In article <71gsj2pe4t327gtdk8fc6quicfe4340p95@4ax.com>,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
How many laws has he signed that he indicated he would ignore or
violate? He does what he thinks his god wants him to do, not what
he
swore an oath to do - uphold secular law. Even though his god
requires him to keep oaths he swears in that god's name. Salad,
anyone?
Based on actions like that and as implied in Kuo's book "Tempting
Faith", these bastards are cynical hypocrites.
They're also guilty of sedition and high treason, among other crimes.
For starters. I would also like to see their relationships with
corporate interests, such as what went on in that top secret meeting
between Cheney and the oil execs, and who is raking in the money on the
Iraq war profiteering.
They pretend to be so
holy that they can converse directly with God, and then the proceed to
break every Commandment that they can. If there were a Jesus, he would
hang his head in shame every time one of these thugs called themself
'Christian'.
If there's a government following their reign, someone should make
them hang their heads in prison.
I know of a nice little prison on a tropical island where we could send
them.
Schroeder wrote he believes in the separation between church and
state.
"Quite rightly we criticize that in most Islamic states the role of
religion in society and the secular character of the legal system
are
not clearly separated. But we haven't taken note as readily of the
U.S.
Christian fundamentalists and their interpretation of the bible
that
show similar tendencies.
"There is thus little scope for peaceful resolutions if both sides
claim
to have a monopoly on the only truth."
The only ones who *can't* see this, obviously, are the religious
nuts
in this country.
And the easily deceived sheep who vote them into office.
Who are the religious nuts I referred to.
Yes.
The entire rest of the world sees it very clearly.
And they fear us.
Not us - just those in power. I hope.
I'm sure that the intelligent people can discern the difference between
the American people and their government. I'm sure that many feel sorry
for us.
Most here** do make a very profound distinction, for what it is worth.
To us, politicians, bureaucrats, and grasping power-hungry short-term
thinking business owners*** are a different species from us natives
and descendents of convicts.
I've found that usually it's not the ordinary people who are the
problem. It's the politicians, religious leaders, and corporate bosses
who mostly screw things up.
It's even worse when you get the 3 combined, Dubya springs to mind as
an egregious example.
And most of those in his administration.
Weren't most of his business flops perpetrated whilst he was executor
of Texas?
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29 Oct 2006 01:48:50 AM |
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In article <g8l6k2pe5te3k57eiofa8lib0fb7ff4rj7@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:
On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 23:00:00 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-046BD3.23000027102006@news.giganews.com>
In article <2bf3k2dakhv7i93ef66cbme0jp9mopuo7d@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:
On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 22:02:14 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-66F0EE.22021426102006@news.giganews.com>
In article <eg11k2h9cua406oof8dla99paaul2hhuqj@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:
On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 21:54:10 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-FC2012.21541025102006@news.giganews.com>
In article <2m5uj2h0jqc54m5fo0n8svltfeu41m4t8v@4ax.com>,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 23:03:01 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
In article <71gsj2pe4t327gtdk8fc6quicfe4340p95@4ax.com>,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
How many laws has he signed that he indicated he would ignore or
violate? He does what he thinks his god wants him to do, not
what
he
swore an oath to do - uphold secular law. Even though his god
requires him to keep oaths he swears in that god's name. Salad,
anyone?
Based on actions like that and as implied in Kuo's book "Tempting
Faith", these bastards are cynical hypocrites.
They're also guilty of sedition and high treason, among other
crimes.
For starters. I would also like to see their relationships with
corporate interests, such as what went on in that top secret meeting
between Cheney and the oil execs, and who is raking in the money on
the
Iraq war profiteering.
They pretend to be so
holy that they can converse directly with God, and then the proceed
to
break every Commandment that they can. If there were a Jesus, he
would
hang his head in shame every time one of these thugs called
themself
'Christian'.
If there's a government following their reign, someone should make
them hang their heads in prison.
I know of a nice little prison on a tropical island where we could
send
them.
Schroeder wrote he believes in the separation between church and
state.
"Quite rightly we criticize that in most Islamic states the role
of
religion in society and the secular character of the legal
system
are
not clearly separated. But we haven't taken note as readily of
the
U.S.
Christian fundamentalists and their interpretation of the bible
that
show similar tendencies.
"There is thus little scope for peaceful resolutions if both
sides
claim
to have a monopoly on the only truth."
The only ones who *can't* see this, obviously, are the religious
nuts
in this country.
And the easily deceived sheep who vote them into office.
Who are the religious nuts I referred to.
Yes.
The entire rest of the world sees it very clearly.
And they fear us.
Not us - just those in power. I hope.
I'm sure that the intelligent people can discern the difference
between
the American people and their government. I'm sure that many feel
sorry
for us.
Most here** do make a very profound distinction, for what it is worth.
To us, politicians, bureaucrats, and grasping power-hungry short-term
thinking business owners*** are a different species from us natives
and descendents of convicts.
I've found that usually it's not the ordinary people who are the
problem. It's the politicians, religious leaders, and corporate bosses
who mostly screw things up.
It's even worse when you get the 3 combined, Dubya springs to mind as
an egregious example.
And most of those in his administration.
Weren't most of his business flops perpetrated whilst he was executor
of Texas?
Actually they were before. He screwed up so much that they didn't know
what else to do with him so they made him their governor.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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27 Oct 2006 09:37:53 AM |
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On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 17:34:36 +0930, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:
I've found that usually it's not the ordinary people who are the
problem. It's the politicians, religious leaders, and corporate bosses
who mostly screw things up.
It's even worse when you get the 3 combined, Dubya springs to mind as
an egregious example.
A man who's proved his incompetence in 3 widely separated areas.
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
"Nothing in biology makes sense without evolution."
- Theodosuis Dobzhansky
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27 Oct 2006 10:41:12 AM |
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Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in
news:fc64k296h8ms350eh5tun43b9akur5gqcn@4ax.com:
On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 17:34:36 +0930, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:
I've found that usually it's not the ordinary people who are the
problem. It's the politicians, religious leaders, and corporate bosses
who mostly screw things up.
It's even worse when you get the 3 combined, Dubya springs to mind as
an egregious example.
A man who's proved his incompetence in 3 widely separated areas.
All that drillin' and Laura was the only hole that wasn't dry.
--
Doc Smartass
The basic tool for the manipulation of reality is the manipulation of
words. If you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people
who must use the words. - Philip K. *****
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28 Oct 2006 01:01:35 AM |
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In article <Xns98696CC10DB2askifyouwantit@216.77.188.18>,
Doc Smartass <gekido@astroskivviesboymail.com> wrote:
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in
news:fc64k296h8ms350eh5tun43b9akur5gqcn@4ax.com:
On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 17:34:36 +0930, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:
I've found that usually it's not the ordinary people who are the
problem. It's the politicians, religious leaders, and corporate bosses
who mostly screw things up.
It's even worse when you get the 3 combined, Dubya springs to mind as
an egregious example.
A man who's proved his incompetence in 3 widely separated areas.
All that drillin' and Laura was the only hole that wasn't dry.
I think that the milkman may have beat him to it.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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28 Oct 2006 02:42:18 PM |
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johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in
news:jhachmann-AC275C.23013527102006@news.giganews.com:
In article <Xns98696CC10DB2askifyouwantit@216.77.188.18>,
Doc Smartass <gekido@astroskivviesboymail.com> wrote:
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in
news:fc64k296h8ms350eh5tun43b9akur5gqcn@4ax.com:
On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 17:34:36 +0930, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:
I've found that usually it's not the ordinary people who are the
problem. It's the politicians, religious leaders, and corporate
bosses who mostly screw things up.
It's even worse when you get the 3 combined, Dubya springs to mind
as an egregious example.
A man who's proved his incompetence in 3 widely separated areas.
All that drillin' and Laura was the only hole that wasn't dry.
I think that the milkman may have beat him to it.
WDJLL?
Who Does Jenna Look Like?
--
Doc Smartass
The basic tool for the manipulation of reality is the manipulation of
words. If you can control the meaning of words, you can control the
people who must use the words. - Philip K. *****
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29 Oct 2006 01:47:09 AM |
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In article <Xns986A96596E0EEaskifyouwantit@216.77.188.18>,
Doc Smartass <gekido@astroskivviesboymail.com> wrote:
johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in
news:jhachmann-AC275C.23013527102006@news.giganews.com:
In article <Xns98696CC10DB2askifyouwantit@216.77.188.18>,
Doc Smartass <gekido@astroskivviesboymail.com> wrote:
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in
news:fc64k296h8ms350eh5tun43b9akur5gqcn@4ax.com:
On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 17:34:36 +0930, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:
I've found that usually it's not the ordinary people who are the
problem. It's the politicians, religious leaders, and corporate
bosses who mostly screw things up.
It's even worse when you get the 3 combined, Dubya springs to mind
as an egregious example.
A man who's proved his incompetence in 3 widely separated areas.
All that drillin' and Laura was the only hole that wasn't dry.
I think that the milkman may have beat him to it.
WDJLL?
Who Does Jenna Look Like?
I don't know. I haven't seen the milkman. :-)
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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27 Oct 2006 12:17:50 PM |
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On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 15:41:12 +0000, Doc Smartass wrote:
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in
news:fc64k296h8ms350eh5tun43b9akur5gqcn@4ax.com:
On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 17:34:36 +0930, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:
I've found that usually it's not the ordinary people who are the
problem. It's the politicians, religious leaders, and corporate bosses
who mostly screw things up.
It's even worse when you get the 3 combined, Dubya springs to mind as
an egregious example.
A man who's proved his incompetence in 3 widely separated areas.
All that drillin' and Laura was the only hole that wasn't dry.
Are you absolutely _certain_ about that?
--
Frank Mayhar frank@exit.com http://www.exit.com/
Exit Consulting http://www.gpsclock.com/
http://www.exit.com/blog/frank/
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28 Oct 2006 12:09:29 AM |
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"Frank Mayhar" <frank@exit.com> wrote in
news:uir914-kca.ln1@tinker.exit.com:
On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 15:41:12 +0000, Doc Smartass wrote:
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in
news:fc64k296h8ms350eh5tun43b9akur5gqcn@4ax.com:
On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 17:34:36 +0930, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:
I've found that usually it's not the ordinary people who are the
problem. It's the politicians, religious leaders, and corporate
bosses who mostly screw things up.
It's even worse when you get the 3 combined, Dubya springs to mind
as an egregious example.
A man who's proved his incompetence in 3 widely separated areas.
All that drillin' and Laura was the only hole that wasn't dry.
Are you absolutely _certain_ about that?
She produced something--granted, she just made more bushies.
--
Doc Smartass
The basic tool for the manipulation of reality is the manipulation of
words. If you can control the meaning of words, you can control the
people who must use the words. - Philip K. *****
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28 Oct 2006 12:28:58 PM |
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On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 05:09:29 +0000, Doc Smartass wrote:
"Frank Mayhar" <frank@exit.com> wrote in
news:uir914-kca.ln1@tinker.exit.com:
On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 15:41:12 +0000, Doc Smartass wrote:
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in
news:fc64k296h8ms350eh5tun43b9akur5gqcn@4ax.com:
On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 17:34:36 +0930, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:
I've found that usually it's not the ordinary people who are the
problem. It's the politicians, religious leaders, and corporate
bosses who mostly screw things up.
It's even worse when you get the 3 combined, Dubya springs to mind
as an egregious example.
A man who's proved his incompetence in 3 widely separated areas.
All that drillin' and Laura was the only hole that wasn't dry.
Are you absolutely _certain_ about that?
She produced something--granted, she just made more bushies.
Well, there is more than one meaning of the term "dry hole." I submit that
at least one of those meanings applies to Laura.
--
Frank Mayhar frank@exit.com http://www.exit.com/
Exit Consulting http://www.gpsclock.com/
http://www.exit.com/blog/frank/
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28 Oct 2006 02:41:16 PM |
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"Frank Mayhar" <frank@exit.com> wrote in
news:qjgc14-52t.ln1@tinker.exit.com:
On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 05:09:29 +0000, Doc Smartass wrote:
"Frank Mayhar" <frank@exit.com> wrote in
news:uir914-kca.ln1@tinker.exit.com:
On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 15:41:12 +0000, Doc Smartass wrote:
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in
news:fc64k296h8ms350eh5tun43b9akur5gqcn@4ax.com:
On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 17:34:36 +0930, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:
I've found that usually it's not the ordinary people who are the
problem. It's the politicians, religious leaders, and corporate
bosses who mostly screw things up.
It's even worse when you get the 3 combined, Dubya springs to mind
as an egregious example.
A man who's proved his incompetence in 3 widely separated areas.
All that drillin' and Laura was the only hole that wasn't dry.
Are you absolutely _certain_ about that?
She produced something--granted, she just made more bushies.
Well, there is more than one meaning of the term "dry hole." I submit
that at least one of those meanings applies to Laura.
More so than his oil businesses ;)
--
Doc Smartass
The basic tool for the manipulation of reality is the manipulation of
words. If you can control the meaning of words, you can control the
people who must use the words. - Philip K. *****
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28 Oct 2006 11:26:43 AM |
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On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 15:41:12 GMT, Doc Smartass
<gekido@astroskivviesboymail.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in
news:fc64k296h8ms350eh5tun43b9akur5gqcn@4ax.com:
On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 17:34:36 +0930, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:
I've found that usually it's not the ordinary people who are the
problem. It's the politicians, religious leaders, and corporate bosses
who mostly screw things up.
It's even worse when you get the 3 combined, Dubya springs to mind as
an egregious example.
A man who's proved his incompetence in 3 widely separated areas.
All that drillin' and Laura was the only hole that wasn't dry.
Who says he didn't get a stand in?
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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28 Oct 2006 12:50:39 PM |
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On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 09:26:43 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 15:41:12 GMT, Doc Smartass
<gekido@astroskivviesboymail.com> wrote in alt.atheism
All that drillin' and Laura was the only hole that wasn't dry.
Who says he didn't get a stand in?
The fruits of the effort, unless he (or she) deliberately sought out
an addictive stand-in.
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
- Voltaire (1694 - 1778)
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
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30 Oct 2006 02:15:46 PM |
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On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 13:50:39 -0400, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote
in alt.atheism
On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 09:26:43 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 15:41:12 GMT, Doc Smartass
<gekido@astroskivviesboymail.com> wrote in alt.atheism
All that drillin' and Laura was the only hole that wasn't dry.
Who says he didn't get a stand in?
The fruits of the effort, unless he (or she) deliberately sought out
an addictive stand-in.
Steam Grate Stan.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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28 Oct 2006 03:31:21 PM |
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stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote in
news:k517k2p1rrnumebv7nbc1dfj3oocgacj27@4ax.com:
On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 15:41:12 GMT, Doc Smartass
<gekido@astroskivviesboymail.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in
news:fc64k296h8ms350eh5tun43b9akur5gqcn@4ax.com:
On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 17:34:36 +0930, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:
I've found that usually it's not the ordinary people who are the
problem. It's the politicians, religious leaders, and corporate
bosses who mostly screw things up.
It's even worse when you get the 3 combined, Dubya springs to mind
as an egregious example.
A man who's proved his incompetence in 3 widely separated areas.
All that drillin' and Laura was the only hole that wasn't dry.
Who says he didn't get a stand in?
Five thousand bucks would show whether the milkman came *ahem* or not =D
--
Doc Smartass
The basic tool for the manipulation of reality is the manipulation of
words. If you can control the meaning of words, you can control the
people who must use the words. - Philip K. *****
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28 Oct 2006 08:13:14 PM |
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On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 20:31:21 GMT, Doc Smartass
<gekido@astroskivviesboymail.com> wrote:
- Refer: <Xns986A9DEF5FF1Aaskifyouwantit@216.77.188.18>
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote in
news:k517k2p1rrnumebv7nbc1dfj3oocgacj27@4ax.com:
On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 15:41:12 GMT, Doc Smartass
<gekido@astroskivviesboymail.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in
news:fc64k296h8ms350eh5tun43b9akur5gqcn@4ax.com:
On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 17:34:36 +0930, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:
I've found that usually it's not the ordinary people who are the
problem. It's the politicians, religious leaders, and corporate
bosses who mostly screw things up.
It's even worse when you get the 3 combined, Dubya springs to mind
as an egregious example.
A man who's proved his incompetence in 3 widely separated areas.
All that drillin' and Laura was the only hole that wasn't dry.
Who says he didn't get a stand in?
Five thousand bucks would show whether the milkman came *ahem* or not =D
The twins should stump up immediately.
Imagine founding out thjat Dubya is NOT your biological father!
A national celebration would be called for!
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28 Oct 2006 10:52:56 PM |
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On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 11:43:14 +1030, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:
The twins should stump up immediately.
Imagine founding out thjat Dubya is NOT your biological father!
A national celebration would be called for!
A national day of trying not to choke to death from derisive laughter
would be called for. But the irony meter manufacturers would be happy
- they'd have a virgin market again.
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
"Shake off all the fears of servile prejudices, under which weak minds
are servilely crouched. Fix reason firmly in her seat, and call on her
tribunal for every fact, every opinion. Question with boldness even the
existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of
the homage of reason than that of blindfolded fear."
- Thomas Jefferson (1743 - 1826)
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
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30 Oct 2006 12:12:17 AM |
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In article <s998k2pf2mb8s9g85ffdhtvd5vqo5oscme@4ax.com>,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 11:43:14 +1030, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:
The twins should stump up immediately.
Imagine founding out thjat Dubya is NOT your biological father!
A national celebration would be called for!
A national day of trying not to choke to death from derisive laughter
would be called for. But the irony meter manufacturers would be happy
- they'd have a virgin market again.
The hospital ERs would be overwhelmed with busted guts from those
laughing too hard.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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27 Oct 2006 10:37:24 PM |
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On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 15:41:12 GMT, Doc Smartass
<gekido@astroskivviesboymail.com> wrote:
- Refer: <Xns98696CC10DB2askifyouwantit@216.77.188.18>
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in
news:fc64k296h8ms350eh5tun43b9akur5gqcn@4ax.com:
On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 17:34:36 +0930, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:
I've found that usually it's not the ordinary people who are the
problem. It's the politicians, religious leaders, and corporate bosses
who mostly screw things up.
It's even worse when you get the 3 combined, Dubya springs to mind as
an egregious example.
A man who's proved his incompetence in 3 widely separated areas.
All that drillin' and Laura was the only hole that wasn't dry.
What about the goats?
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| User: "Doc Smartass" |
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| Title: Re: Bush GAWD talk creeped out Schroeder. |
28 Oct 2006 12:09:57 AM |
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Michael Gray <fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in
news:03k5k2tu3gvl23kpravfhjqeif1t8lh8gh@4ax.com:
On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 15:41:12 GMT, Doc Smartass
<gekido@astroskivviesboymail.com> wrote:
- Refer: <Xns98696CC10DB2askifyouwantit@216.77.188.18>
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in
news:fc64k296h8ms350eh5tun43b9akur5gqcn@4ax.com:
On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 17:34:36 +0930, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:
I've found that usually it's not the ordinary people who are the
problem. It's the politicians, religious leaders, and corporate
bosses who mostly screw things up.
It's even worse when you get the 3 combined, Dubya springs to mind
as an egregious example.
A man who's proved his incompetence in 3 widely separated areas.
All that drillin' and Laura was the only hole that wasn't dry.
What about the goats?
No kids--at least, none the goats would admit.
--
Doc Smartass
The basic tool for the manipulation of reality is the manipulation of
words. If you can control the meaning of words, you can control the
people who must use the words. - Philip K. *****
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Bush GAWD talk creeped out Schroeder. |
28 Oct 2006 08:02:31 AM |
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On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 05:09:57 GMT, Doc Smartass
<gekido@astroskivviesboymail.com> wrote:
- Refer: <Xns986A1BBCC8F1askifyouwantit@216.77.188.18>
Michael Gray <fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in
news:03k5k2tu3gvl23kpravfhjqeif1t8lh8gh@4ax.com:
On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 15:41:12 GMT, Doc Smartass
<gekido@astroskivviesboymail.com> wrote:
- Refer: <Xns98696CC10DB2askifyouwantit@216.77.188.18>
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in
news:fc64k296h8ms350eh5tun43b9akur5gqcn@4ax.com:
On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 17:34:36 +0930, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:
I've found that usually it's not the ordinary people who are the
problem. It's the politicians, religious leaders, and corporate
bosses who mostly screw things up.
It's even worse when you get the 3 combined, Dubya springs to mind
as an egregious example.
A man who's proved his incompetence in 3 widely separated areas.
All that drillin' and Laura was the only hole that wasn't dry.
What about the goats?
No kids--at least, none the goats would admit.
I heard that Jenna was a bit horny...
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| User: "Doc Smartass" |
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| Title: Re: Bush GAWD talk creeped out Schroeder. |
28 Oct 2006 08:22:05 PM |
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Michael Gray <fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in
news:m6l6k2leae6qcc6jmutjthtv5sj92hem7s@4ax.com:
On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 05:09:57 GMT, Doc Smartass
<gekido@astroskivviesboymail.com> wrote:
- Refer: <Xns986A1BBCC8F1askifyouwantit@216.77.188.18>
Michael Gray <fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in
news:03k5k2tu3gvl23kpravfhjqeif1t8lh8gh@4ax.com:
On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 15:41:12 GMT, Doc Smartass
<gekido@astroskivviesboymail.com> wrote:
- Refer: <Xns98696CC10DB2askifyouwantit@216.77.188.18>
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in
news:fc64k296h8ms350eh5tun43b9akur5gqcn@4ax.com:
On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 17:34:36 +0930, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:
I've found that usually it's not the ordinary people who are the
problem. It's the politicians, religious leaders, and corporate
bosses who mostly screw things up.
It's even worse when you get the 3 combined, Dubya springs to mind
as an egregious example.
A man who's proved his incompetence in 3 widely separated areas.
All that drillin' and Laura was the only hole that wasn't dry.
What about the goats?
No kids--at least, none the goats would admit.
I heard that Jenna was a bit horny...
WWJF?
--
Doc Smartass
The basic tool for the manipulation of reality is the manipulation of
words. If you can control the meaning of words, you can control the
people who must use the words. - Philip K. *****
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