Religions > Atheism > #Bush is Beliefnet Finalist: Most Inspiring Person of the Year
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#Bush is Beliefnet Finalist: Most Inspiring Person of the Year |
FINALIST:
President George W. Bush
Morally consistent leader
http://www.beliefnet.com/story/137/story_13704_1.html#cont
Love him or hate him, there's no question that for large numbers of
Americans President George W. Bush is truly inspiring. Those who love
President Bush usually point to the same set of factors: He is
steadfast and morally clear.
As conservative columnist Charlotte Hays put it, "George Bush was
willing to risk his presidency on an unpopular war because he believed
it was the right thing to do. Bush has a rare courage, all the more
fascinating because he was born to be a rich frat boy and destined to
grow into a country club Republican. But this is not who he became."
He crafted a foreign policy based on morality, not just realpolitik.
Like Woodrow Wilson, he predicated a war not only on self-preservation
but also on helping an oppressed people. Whether the war was the best
use of resources or not will be debated for years, but one thing is
clear: If not for George W. Bush, Saddam Hussein would still be in
power.
Some users cited his Christian faith, while others have praised him
for continuing to defend Islam, most recently by saying he believes
Christians, Jews and Muslims all worship the same God.
Beliefnet member clyde5001 summed up his reasons for nominating Bush:
"George W. Bush--for having the courage to fight true evil."
Beliefnet member KAR7612
I feel that President George W. Bush has been the most inspiring
person. He has continually praised God and Jesus when this country has
needed it most and in the face of much adversity. He has made
decisions that have helped to free a country from its murderous, evil
(and I don't use that word freely) leader. He is a good man and a
great leader and he should be respected for a job well done.
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24 Dec 2003 12:47:24 PM |
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"RCMan" <rcman777@excite.com> wrote
Those who love President Bush usually point to the
same set of factors: He is steadfast and morally clear.
What's so "Moral" about lying? He lied about WMDs in Iraq,
he lied about a Saddam-Al Qaida connection, and he used
blatent forgeries to "support" his claims about an Iraqi nuclear
program.
He also cut spending to combat AIDS and called it an "increase."
He imposed an income-redistribution-plan for the wealthy and
called it "economic stimulus." He caught the energy brokers
creating artificial energy shortages in California and he ordered
the evidence "Sealed" to protect his good buddies at Enron. It's
now a federal crime to make the evidence public, like in a civil
or criminal case against Enron.
All this, after stealing the 2000 election.
If Bush is "Moral" than anything goes. There's no law, no morality
and certainly nothing approaching "ethics."
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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24 Dec 2003 12:51:44 PM |
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And so upon Wed, 24 Dec 2003 13:47:24 -0500 didst JTEM speak thusly:
He imposed an income-redistribution-plan for the wealthy and
called it "economic stimulus."
Speaking of which...
I see everybody is having multiple orgasms over a 8% (and change,
annualized) increase in the GDP.
Funny thing about it is that the major retailers that sell to the middle
class don't seem to notice there's a big, powerful recovery going on.
Wal-Mart, Target, and Sears all announced sales at the *low end of their
previous estimates.
High end retailers and dealers in pricey luxuries are having a great xmas
though.
Interesting eh?
--
Mark K. Bilbo
"There is no system but GNU, and Linux is one of its kernels."
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| User: "JTEM" |
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24 Dec 2003 01:00:00 PM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <noem@il.huh> wrote
High end retailers and dealers in pricey luxuries are having
a great xmas though.
Interesting eh?
Expected.
The economy "grew" 30% during the Reagan years, while a
full 25% of the population got poorer.
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24 Dec 2003 02:04:17 PM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <noem@il.huh> wrote in message news:pan.2003.12.24.18.51.43.
Funny thing about it is that the major retailers that sell to the middle
class don't seem to notice there's a big, powerful recovery going on.
Wal-Mart, Target, and Sears all announced sales at the *low end of their
previous estimates.
High end retailers and dealers in pricey luxuries are having a great xmas
though.
Interesting eh?
Certainly. I've recently been reading that breaks for the rich and
super-rich don't actually benefit 'the nation' in the way these people's
supporters like to pretend: their increasing wealth is disproportionately
spent on foreign-made luxury goods and travel/holidays that take money out
of the domestic economy. Whereas *increases in minimum wage* predominantly
enrich *local economies*. But then, who the hell wants *that*...? Just keep
'em *poor and stupid*...!!
M.
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| User: "johac" |
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25 Dec 2003 12:55:02 AM |
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In article <pan.2003.12.24.18.51.43.955165@il.huh>,
"Mark K. Bilbo" <noem@il.huh> wrote:
And so upon Wed, 24 Dec 2003 13:47:24 -0500 didst JTEM speak thusly:
He imposed an income-redistribution-plan for the wealthy and
called it "economic stimulus."
Speaking of which...
I see everybody is having multiple orgasms over a 8% (and change,
annualized) increase in the GDP.
Funny thing about it is that the major retailers that sell to the middle
class don't seem to notice there's a big, powerful recovery going on.
Wal-Mart, Target, and Sears all announced sales at the *low end of their
previous estimates.
And don't forget all of the unemployed. Income tax breaks don't do you
any good if you don't have an income.
High end retailers and dealers in pricey luxuries are having a great xmas
though.
Now that you mention it, I've noticed that unlike past years when
every other TV commerical was for some crappy toy or another, this
year they are for diamond jewelry and luxury cars. Merry Xmas in
Bushland!
Interesting eh?
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John Hachmann, aa #1782
- Question authority. Now more than ever. -
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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24 Dec 2003 06:08:43 PM |
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On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 12:51:44 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo" <noem@il.huh>
posted to alt.atheism:
High end retailers and dealers in pricey luxuries are having a great xmas
though.
Except for FAO Schwartz, which is having its last Christmas.
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"To surrender to ignorance and call it God has always been premature, and it remains
premature today."
- Isaac Asimov
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
rukbat at optonline dot net
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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24 Dec 2003 10:25:30 AM |
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"RCMan" <rcman777@excite.com> wrote in message
news:3776526f.0312240445.22974377@posting.google.com...
FINALIST:
President George W. Bush
Morally consistent leader
http://www.beliefnet.com/story/137/story_13704_1.html#cont
Love him or hate him, there's no question that for large numbers of
Americans President George W. Bush is truly inspiring.
Well, George IS living proof that anything can become president.
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Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
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| User: "DW Suiter" |
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24 Dec 2003 01:46:53 PM |
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Bush represents the epitome of the blind and foolish people who live in
ignorance and stupidity.
DW Suiter
Son of God
"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in message
news:_5jGb.17$sP4.3@fe1.texas.rr.com...
"RCMan" <rcman777@excite.com> wrote in message
news:3776526f.0312240445.22974377@posting.google.com...
FINALIST:
President George W. Bush
Morally consistent leader
http://www.beliefnet.com/story/137/story_13704_1.html#cont
Love him or hate him, there's no question that for large numbers of
Americans President George W. Bush is truly inspiring.
Well, George IS living proof that anything can become president.
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Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
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25 Dec 2003 01:05:01 AM |
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"RCMan" <rcman777@excite.com> wrote in message
news:3776526f.0312240445.22974377@posting.google.com...
FINALIST:
President George W. Bush
Morally consistent leader
http://www.beliefnet.com/story/137/story_13704_1.html#cont
Love him or hate him, there's no question that for large numbers of
Americans President George W. Bush is truly inspiring. Those who love
President Bush usually point to the same set of factors: He is
steadfast and morally clear.
Steadfast, as in stubborn, yes. Morally clear? What a joke. He is one of the
most morally bankrupt presidents we've had.
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Peacenik
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25 Dec 2003 02:46:29 AM |
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On Thu, 25 Dec 2003 07:05:01 GMT, "Peacenik"
<criskity999@com999cast.removeallnines.net> wrote:
"RCMan" <rcman777@excite.com> wrote in message
news:3776526f.0312240445.22974377@posting.google.com...
FINALIST:
President George W. Bush
Morally consistent leader
http://www.beliefnet.com/story/137/story_13704_1.html#cont
Love him or hate him, there's no question that for large numbers of
Americans President George W. Bush is truly inspiring. Those who love
President Bush usually point to the same set of factors: He is
steadfast and morally clear.
Steadfast, as in stubborn, yes. Morally clear? What a joke. He is one of the
most morally bankrupt presidents we've had.
Now that is an achievment!
Thomas P.
None of the Emperor's clothes had been so successful before.
"But he has got nothing on," said a little child.
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| User: "Phylter" |
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25 Dec 2003 07:18:56 AM |
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(RCMan) astounded us with:
news:3776526f.0312240445.22974377@posting.google.com:
FINALIST:
President George W. Bush
Morally consistent leader
http://www.beliefnet.com/story/137/story_13704_1.html#cont
Love him or hate him, there's no question that for large numbers of
Americans President George W. Bush is truly inspiring.
Proof that large numbers of Americans have a low inspiration factor.
Basically, he's a conniving *****, I've tried to keep the words to a minimum.
If you think he's in the job for the "greater good", you're a fucking idiot.
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Phylter
Denizen of Darkness #44 & AFJC Antipodean Attaché
http://www.rudraigh.com/afjc/regulars.html
Change "freeway" to "hotmail" to respond
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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24 Dec 2003 10:45:47 AM |
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And so upon Wed, 24 Dec 2003 04:45:14 -0800 didst RCMan speak thusly:
He crafted a foreign policy based on morality, not just realpolitik.
Riiiight.
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Mark K. Bilbo
"There is no system but GNU, and Linux is one of its kernels."
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| User: "Mark D." |
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24 Dec 2003 05:56:06 PM |
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And so upon Wed, 24 Dec 2003 04:45:14 -0800 didst RCMan drool thusly:
He crafted a foreign policy based on morality, not just realpolitik.
Meanwhile, back in the *real world*:
*Britain and the US claim a moral mandate -- and back a dictator who boils
victims to death*
George Monbiot
Tuesday October 28, 2003
The Guardian
The British and US governments gave three reasons for going to war
with Iraq. The first was to extend the war on terrorism. The second
was to destroy its weapons of mass destruction before they could be
deployed. The third was to remove a brutal regime, which had tortured
and murdered its people.
If the purpose of the war was to defeat terrorism, it has failed.
Before the invasion, there was no demonstrable link between al-Qaida
and Iraq. Today, al-Qaida appears to have moved into that country, to
exploit a new range of accessible western targets. If the purpose of
the war was to destroy Saddam Hussein's weapons of mass destruction
before he deployed them, then, as no such weapons appear to have
existed, it was a war without moral or strategic justification.
So just one excuse remains, and it is a powerful one. Saddam Hussein
was a brutal tyrant. While there was no legal argument for forcibly
deposing him on the grounds of his abuse of human rights, there was a
moral argument. It is one which our prime minister made repeatedly and
forcefully. "The moral case against war has a moral answer: it is the
moral case for removing Saddam," Tony Blair told the Labour party's
spring conference in February. "Ridding the world of Saddam would be
an act of humanity. It is leaving him there that is in truth
inhumane."
Had millions of British people not accepted this argument, Tony Blair
might not be prime minister today. There were many, especially in the
Labour party, who disagreed with his decision but who did not doubt
the sincerity of his belief in the primacy of human rights.
There is just one test of this sincerity, and that is the consistency
with which his concern for human rights guides his foreign policy. If
he cares so much about the welfare of foreigners that he is prepared
to go to war on their behalf, we should expect to see this concern
reflected in all his relations with the governments of other
countries. We should expect him, for example, to do all he can to help
the people of Uzbekistan.
There are over 6,000 political and religious prisoners in Uzbekistan.
Every year, some of them are tortured to death. Sometimes the
policemen or intelligence agents simply break their fingers, their
ribs and then their skulls with hammers, or stab them with
screwdrivers, or rip off bits of skin and flesh with pliers, or drive
needles under their fingernails, or leave them standing for a
fortnight, up to their knees in freezing water. Sometimes they are a
little more inventive. The body of one prisoner was delivered to his
relatives last year, with a curious red tidemark around the middle of
his torso. He had been boiled to death.
His crime, like that of many of the country's prisoners, was
practising his religion. Islam Karimov, the president of Uzbekistan,
learned his politics in the Soviet Union. He was appointed under the
old system, and its collapse in 1991 did not interrupt his rule. An
Islamist terrorist network has been operating there, but Karimov makes
no distinction between peaceful Muslims and terrorists: anyone who
worships privately, who does not praise the president during his
prayers or who joins an organisation which has not been approved by
the state can be imprisoned. Political dissidents, human rights
activists and homosexuals receive the same treatment. Some of them,
like in the old Soviet Union, are sent to psychiatric hospitals.
But Uzbekistan is seen by the US government as a key western asset, as
Saddam Hussein's Iraq once was. Since 1999, US special forces have
been training Karimov's soldiers. In October 2001, he gave the United
States permission to use Uzbekistan as an airbase for its war against
the Taliban. The Taliban have now been overthrown, but the US has no
intention of moving out. Uzbekistan is in the middle of central Asia's
massive gas and oil fields. It is a nation for whose favours both
Russia and China have been vying. Like Saddam Hussein's Iraq, it is a
secular state fending off the forces of Islam.
So, far from seeking to isolate his regime, the US government has
tripled its aid to Karimov. Last year, he received $500m (£300m), of
which $79m went to the police and intelligence services, who are
responsible for most of the torture. While the US claims that its
engagement with Karimov will encourage him to respect human rights,
like Saddam Hussein he recognises that the protection of the world's
most powerful government permits him to do whatever he wants. Indeed,
the US state department now plays a major role in excusing his crimes.
In May, for example, it announced that Uzbekistan had made
"substantial and continuing progress" in improving its human rights
record. The progress? "Average sentencing" for members of peaceful
religious organisations is now just "7-12 years", while two years ago
they were "usually sentenced to 12-19 years".
There is little question that the power and longevity of Karimov's
government has been enhanced by his special relationship with the
United States. There is also little question that supporting him is a
dangerous game. All the principal enemies of the US today were
fostered by the US or its allies in the past: the Taliban in
Afghanistan, the Wahhabi zealots in Saudi Arabia, Saddam Hussein and
his people in Iraq. Dictators do not have friends, only sources of
power. They will shift their allegiances as their requirement for
power demands. The US supported Islamist extremists in Afghanistan in
order to undermine the Soviet Union, and created a monster. Now it is
supporting a Soviet-era leader to undermine Islamist extremists, and
building up another one.
So what of Tony Blair, the man who claims that human rights are so
important that they justify going to war? Well, at the beginning of
this year, he granted Uzbekistan an open licence to import whatever
weapons from the United Kingdom Mr Karimov fancies. But his support
goes far beyond that. The British ambassador to Uzbekistan, Craig
Murray, has repeatedly criticised Karimov's crushing of democracy
movements and his use of torture to silence his opponents. Like Roger
Casement, the foreign office envoy who exposed the atrocities in the
Congo a century ago, Murray has been sending home dossiers which could
scarcely fail to move anyone who cares about human rights.
Blair has been moved all right: moved to do everything he could to
silence our ambassador. Mr Murray has been threatened with the sack,
investigated for a series of plainly trumped-up charges and persecuted
so relentlessly by his superiors that he had to spend some time, like
many of Karimov's critics, in a psychiatric ward, though in this case
for sound clinical reasons. This pressure, according to a senior
government source, was partly "exercised on the orders of No 10".
In April, Blair told us that he had decided that "to leave Iraq in its
brutalised state under Saddam was wrong". How much credibility does
this statement now command, when the same man believes that to help
Uzbekistan remain in its brutalised state is right?
Monbiot.com
http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,1072313,00.html
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'Based on morality', eh? Don't make me fucking *laugh*...!
M.
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| User: "zepp" |
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24 Dec 2003 11:04:55 AM |
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On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 10:45:47 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo" <noem@il.huh>
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And so upon Wed, 24 Dec 2003 04:45:14 -0800 didst RCMan speak thusly:
He crafted a foreign policy based on morality, not just realpolitik.
Riiiight.
It's very moral to kill people who inhabit time zones near where
terrorists might be. Didn't you know that?
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24 Dec 2003 05:46:33 PM |
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"zepp" <zeppnospam@finestplanet.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 10:45:47 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo" <noem@il.huh>
wrote:
And so upon Wed, 24 Dec 2003 04:45:14 -0800 didst RCMan speak thusly:
He crafted a foreign policy based on morality, not just realpolitik.
Riiiight.
It's very moral to kill people who inhabit time zones near where
terrorists might be. Didn't you know that?
Not to mention all those evil arabs putting tea towels on their heathen
sweaty heads instead of using them to wipe nice Christian plates like God
intended them to be used! BLOW THE FUCKERS AWAY...how inspiring.
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October 5, 1995
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24 Dec 2003 12:37:20 PM |
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And so upon Wed, 24 Dec 2003 09:04:55 -0800 didst zepp speak thusly:
On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 10:45:47 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo" <noem@il.huh>
wrote:
And so upon Wed, 24 Dec 2003 04:45:14 -0800 didst RCMan speak thusly:
He crafted a foreign policy based on morality, not just realpolitik.
Riiiight.
It's very moral to kill people who inhabit time zones near where
terrorists might be. Didn't you know that?
Apparently it's even moral to attack people who didn't attack you because
someone attacked you.
Erm... or something like that...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
"There is no system but GNU, and Linux is one of its kernels."
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24 Dec 2003 06:28:56 PM |
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In article <3776526f.0312240445.22974377@posting.google.com>,
(RCMan) wrote:
FINALIST:
President George W. Bush
Morally consistent leader
http://www.beliefnet.com/story/137/story_13704_1.html#cont
Love him or hate him, there's no question that for large numbers of
Americans President George W. Bush is truly inspiring. Those who love
President Bush usually point to the same set of factors: He is
steadfast and morally clear.
Now where the hell did I put that barf bag.
--
John Hachmann, aa #1782
- Question authority. Now more than ever. -
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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24 Dec 2003 07:04:25 PM |
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And so upon Wed, 24 Dec 2003 16:28:56 -0800 didst johac speak thusly:
In article <3776526f.0312240445.22974377@posting.google.com>,
rcman777@excite.com (RCMan) wrote:
FINALIST:
President George W. Bush
Morally consistent leader
http://www.beliefnet.com/story/137/story_13704_1.html#cont
Love him or hate him, there's no question that for large numbers of
Americans President George W. Bush is truly inspiring. Those who love
President Bush usually point to the same set of factors: He is
steadfast and morally clear.
Now where the hell did I put that barf bag.
<backing carefully away>
Okay, they're not *new shoes but, still...
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Mark K. Bilbo
"There is no system but GNU, and Linux is one of its kernels."
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24 Dec 2003 08:06:13 PM |
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On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 16:28:56 -0800, johac <jhachm@remove.ixpres.com>
wrote:
In article <3776526f.0312240445.22974377@posting.google.com>,
rcman777@excite.com (RCMan) wrote:
FINALIST:
President George W. Bush
Morally consistent leader
http://www.beliefnet.com/story/137/story_13704_1.html#cont
Love him or hate him, there's no question that for large numbers of
Americans President George W. Bush is truly inspiring. Those who love
President Bush usually point to the same set of factors: He is
steadfast and morally clear.
Now where the hell did I put that barf bag.
Isn't he still in the Oval Office?
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"...too many whites are getting away with drug use."
-- Rush Limbaugh, on his short lived TV show
October 5, 1995
Not dead, in jail, or a slave? Thank a liberal!
Pay your taxes so the rich don't have to.
For the finest in liberal/leftist commentary,
http://www.zeppscommentaries.com
For news feed (free, 10-20 articles a day)
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| Title: Re: #Bush is Beliefnet Finalist: Most Inspiring Person of the Year |
25 Dec 2003 12:27:02 AM |
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In article <9ghkuvs6blni4ep7rf7siqjfiim830hiig@4ax.com>,
zepp <zeppnospam@finestplanet.com> wrote:
On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 16:28:56 -0800, johac <jhachm@remove.ixpres.com>
wrote:
In article <3776526f.0312240445.22974377@posting.google.com>,
rcman777@excite.com (RCMan) wrote:
FINALIST:
President George W. Bush
Morally consistent leader
http://www.beliefnet.com/story/137/story_13704_1.html#cont
Love him or hate him, there's no question that for large numbers of
Americans President George W. Bush is truly inspiring. Those who love
President Bush usually point to the same set of factors: He is
steadfast and morally clear.
Now where the hell did I put that barf bag.
Isn't he still in the Oval Office?
I think that is a sack of something else.
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John Hachmann, aa #1782
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| User: "Sean C" |
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| Title: Re: #Bush is Beliefnet Finalist: Most Inspiring Person of the Year |
25 Dec 2003 11:33:48 AM |
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In article <3776526f.0312240445.22974377@posting.google.com>, RCMan
<rcman777@excite.com> wrote:
FINALIST:
President George W. Bush
Morally consistent leader
http://www.beliefnet.com/story/137/story_13704_1.html#cont
Love him or hate him, there's no question that for large numbers of
Americans President George W. Bush is truly inspiring. Those who love
President Bush usually point to the same set of factors: He is
steadfast and morally clear.
What does he inspire you to do, grovel before the rich and kill people?
Sean C
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: #Bush is Beliefnet Finalist: Most Inspiring Person of the Year |
24 Dec 2003 01:57:36 PM |
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On 24 Dec 2003 04:45:14 -0800, (RCMan) wrote:
FINALIST:
President George W. Bush
Morally consistent leader
http://www.beliefnet.com/story/137/story_13704_1.html#cont
Love him or hate him, there's no question that for large numbers of
Americans President George W. Bush is truly inspiring. Those who love
President Bush usually point to the same set of factors: He is
steadfast and morally clear.
As conservative columnist Charlotte Hays put it, "George Bush was
willing to risk his presidency on an unpopular war because he believed
it was the right thing to do.
He lied about his reasons for the war. Because of the hysteria that
he contributed to, the war was popular. He did not risk his
presidency; he did risk the lives of American soldiers, and many
Iraquis.
Bush has a rare courage, all the more
fascinating because he was born to be a rich frat boy and destined to
grow into a country club Republican. But this is not who he became."
Unfortunately for the entire world. If he had continued to throw away
his own life in mindless self-indulgence instead of becoming
president, many people would still be alive today.
He crafted a foreign policy based on morality, not just realpolitik.
He based it on lies, arrogance and ignorance. The world has lost much
and will probably lose much more before he can be replaced.
Like Woodrow Wilson, he predicated a war not only on self-preservation
but also on helping an oppressed people.
Wilson was smarter than Bush (easy enough), but he was also a
hypocrite. America's entry into the war Wilson swore America would
stay out of was based on money.
Whether the war was the best
use of resources or not will be debated for years, but one thing is
clear: If not for George W. Bush, Saddam Hussein would still be in
power.
And Iraq would not now be a great recruiting ground for Arab
terrorists. The world is full of dictators. Even the US cannot get
rid of them all; it could, however, stop putting them into power and
keeping them there.
snip of remaining drivel.
Thomas P.
None of the Emperor's clothes had been so successful before.
"But he has got nothing on," said a little child.
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| User: "patrick_darcy" |
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| Title: Re: #Bush is Beliefnet Finalist: Most Inspiring Person of the Year |
25 Dec 2003 04:12:36 AM |
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RCMan wrote:
FINALIST:
President George W. Bush
Morally consistent leader
http://www.beliefnet.com/story/137/story_13704_1.html#cont
Love him or hate him, there's no question that for large numbers of
Americans President George W. Bush is truly inspiring. Those who love
President Bush usually point to the same set of factors: He is
steadfast and morally clear.
As conservative columnist Charlotte Hays put it, "George Bush was
willing to risk his presidency on an unpopular war because he believed
it was the right thing to do. Bush has a rare courage, all the more
fascinating because he was born to be a rich frat boy and destined to
grow into a country club Republican. But this is not who he became."
He crafted a foreign policy based on morality, not just realpolitik.
Like Woodrow Wilson, he predicated a war not only on self-preservation
but also on helping an oppressed people. Whether the war was the best
use of resources or not will be debated for years, but one thing is
clear: If not for George W. Bush, Saddam Hussein would still be in
power.
Some users cited his Christian faith, while others have praised him
for continuing to defend Islam, most recently by saying he believes
Christians, Jews and Muslims all worship the same God.
Beliefnet member clyde5001 summed up his reasons for nominating Bush:
"George W. Bush--for having the courage to fight true evil."
Beliefnet member KAR7612
I feel that President George W. Bush has been the most inspiring
person. He has continually praised God and Jesus when this country has
needed it most and in the face of much adversity. He has made
decisions that have helped to free a country from its murderous, evil
(and I don't use that word freely) leader. He is a good man and a
great leader and he should be respected for a job well done.
and when he called a man a filthy name none of the
chirstians stood up , none. absolutely none.
u will have u your moral day people.
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| User: "Fear gan dia" |
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| Title: Re: #Bush is Beliefnet Finalist: Most Inspiring Person of the Year |
24 Dec 2003 02:17:51 PM |
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Verily verily I say unto you, it is written by (RCMan)
in <3776526f.0312240445.22974377@posting.google.com>:
FINALIST:
President George W. Bush
Morally consistent leader
http://www.beliefnet.com/story/137/story_13704_1.html#cont
Love him or hate him, there's no question that for large numbers of
Americans President George W. Bush is truly inspiring.
Yeah, he inspires me to puke.
--
Fear gan dia # http://goddamliberal.port5.com # U5 and proud of it!
WORK HARDER - millionaires on corporate welfare depend on you.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: #Bush is Beliefnet Finalist: Most Inspiring Person of the Year |
24 Dec 2003 09:37:44 PM |
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On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 20:17:51 GMT, "Fear gan dia"
<ddtndsbhrnlx@sbsnnsxrsxnn.com> posted to alt.atheism:
Verily verily I say unto you, it is written by (RCMan)
in <3776526f.0312240445.22974377@posting.google.com>:
FINALIST:
President George W. Bush
Morally consistent leader
http://www.beliefnet.com/story/137/story_13704_1.html#cont
Love him or hate him, there's no question that for large numbers of
Americans President George W. Bush is truly inspiring.
Yeah, he inspires me to puke.
He and his ilk inspire great fear in my. Fear for America's future.
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"I cannot conceive of a God who rewards and punishes his creatures, or has a will of the
type of which we are conscious in ourselves. An individual who should survive his
physical death is also beyond my comprehension,...; such notions are for the fears or
absurd egoism of feeble souls."
- Albert Einstein
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rukbat at optonline dot net
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