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"Gactimus" |
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10 Jan 2005 07:58:39 PM |
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Bush May Have Paid Michael Moore to Oppose Him |
Even as Tribune Media Services announced it had dropped columnist Armstrong
Williams after he admitted receiving $241,000 from the Department of
Education to promote 'No Child Left Behind', new allegations surfaced today
that the Bush administration may have paid Michael Moore to oppose the
president's reelection.
Mr. Moore and the White House both deny the charges, but critics point to the
"almost scary" relationship between Mr. Bush's electoral success and the
vigorous efforts of the Oscar-winning filmmaker to tarnish the president's
image.
"The more he attacked Bush, the more Americans loved the president," said an
unnamed spokesman for the American Society of Correspondents, Editors and
Writers. "You don't have to be Oliver Stone to see the outlines of a
conspiracy there. Michael Moore practically handed Bush his second term on a
silver platter."
"The outcry from professional journalists over these pay-for-commentary
scandals is not surprising," the source added. "They violated the
journalistic code of honor. It's appalling to think that these men received
compensation for weaving their biases into their work. Meanwhile, thousands
of hard-working journalists do the same thing every day at no extra charge."
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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11 Jan 2005 04:32:54 AM |
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Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:
Even as Tribune Media Services announced it had dropped columnist Armstrong
Williams after he admitted receiving $241,000 from the Department of
Education to promote 'No Child Left Behind', new allegations surfaced today
that the Bush administration may have paid Michael Moore to oppose the
president's reelection.
You're the same idiot that tried to claim Air America would shut down
at the beginning of this year.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Gactimus" |
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12 Jan 2005 01:09:32 PM |
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(Ray Fischer) wrote in
news:crvktm$tfc$1@bolt.sonic.net:
Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:
Even as Tribune Media Services announced it had dropped columnist
Armstrong Williams after he admitted receiving $241,000 from the
Department of Education to promote 'No Child Left Behind', new
allegations surfaced today that the Bush administration may have paid
Michael Moore to oppose the president's reelection.
You're the same idiot that tried to claim Air America would shut down
at the beginning of this year.
'AIR AMERICA' RATINGS TURBULENCE IN NY CITY: Surprising many observers who
expected it to shine during election season, all-liberal upstart WLIB (1190
AM) -- base station for Al Franken and Janeane Garofalo -- actually headed
south, shedding 15% of its summer audience to finish fall at 24th place in
just-released ARBITRONS...
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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13 Jan 2005 05:16:38 AM |
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Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:
Even as Tribune Media Services announced it had dropped columnist
Armstrong Williams after he admitted receiving $241,000 from the
Department of Education to promote 'No Child Left Behind', new
allegations surfaced today that the Bush administration may have paid
Michael Moore to oppose the president's reelection.
You're the same idiot that tried to claim Air America would shut down
at the beginning of this year.
'AIR AMERICA' RATINGS TURBULENCE IN NY CITY: Surprising many observers who
More of the same crap is still crap.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Gactimus" |
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13 Jan 2005 01:51:42 PM |
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(Ray Fischer) wrote in
news:cs507l$89e$1@bolt.sonic.net:
Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote:
Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:
Even as Tribune Media Services announced it had dropped columnist
Armstrong Williams after he admitted receiving $241,000 from the
Department of Education to promote 'No Child Left Behind', new
allegations surfaced today that the Bush administration may have paid
Michael Moore to oppose the president's reelection.
You're the same idiot that tried to claim Air America would shut down
at the beginning of this year.
'AIR AMERICA' RATINGS TURBULENCE IN NY CITY: Surprising many observers
who
More of the same crap is still crap.
Which is why Air America is going down the tubes.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Bush May Have Paid Michael Moore to Oppose Him |
13 Jan 2005 06:50:03 PM |
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Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
news:cs507l$89e$1@bolt.sonic.net:
Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:
Even as Tribune Media Services announced it had dropped columnist
Armstrong Williams after he admitted receiving $241,000 from the
Department of Education to promote 'No Child Left Behind', new
allegations surfaced today that the Bush administration may have paid
Michael Moore to oppose the president's reelection.
You're the same idiot that tried to claim Air America would shut down
at the beginning of this year.
'AIR AMERICA' RATINGS TURBULENCE IN NY CITY: Surprising many observers
who
More of the same crap is still crap.
Which is why Air America is going down the tubes.
According to you it shouldn't even be in business.
That's why nobody believes your crap any more.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "osprey" |
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10 Jan 2005 09:27:03 PM |
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Gactimus wrote:
Even as Tribune Media Services announced it had dropped columnist
Armstrong
Williams after he admitted receiving $241,000 from the Department of
Education to promote 'No Child Left Behind', new allegations surfaced
today
that the Bush administration may have paid Michael Moore to oppose
the
president's reelection.
Mr. Moore and the White House both deny the charges, but critics
point to the
"almost scary" relationship between Mr. Bush's electoral success and
the
vigorous efforts of the Oscar-winning filmmaker to tarnish the
president's
image.
"The more he attacked Bush, the more Americans loved the president,"
said an
unnamed spokesman for the American Society of Correspondents, Editors
and
Writers. "You don't have to be Oliver Stone to see the outlines of a
conspiracy there. Michael Moore practically handed Bush his second
term on a
silver platter."
"The outcry from professional journalists over these
pay-for-commentary
scandals is not surprising," the source added. "They violated the
journalistic code of honor. It's appalling to think that these men
received
compensation for weaving their biases into their work. Meanwhile,
thousands
of hard-working journalists do the same thing every day at no extra
charge."
I am not going to buy into this latest propaganda about Bush paying
Moore, it sounds ridiculous. But I will say this, I do believe that
American's tend to want to look at their President in good faith. When
Clinton was attacked, it helped him. When Bush was attacked, it helped
him. Maybe there is something to be learned here by both parties with
all their negative campaigning.
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| User: "ouroboros rex" |
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10 Jan 2005 09:34:10 PM |
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"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:1105392423.075237.94680@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Gactimus wrote:
Even as Tribune Media Services announced it had dropped columnist
Armstrong
Williams after he admitted receiving $241,000 from the Department of
Education to promote 'No Child Left Behind', new allegations surfaced
today
that the Bush administration may have paid Michael Moore to oppose
the
president's reelection.
Mr. Moore and the White House both deny the charges, but critics
point to the
"almost scary" relationship between Mr. Bush's electoral success and
the
vigorous efforts of the Oscar-winning filmmaker to tarnish the
president's
image.
"The more he attacked Bush, the more Americans loved the president,"
said an
unnamed spokesman for the American Society of Correspondents, Editors
and
Writers. "You don't have to be Oliver Stone to see the outlines of a
conspiracy there. Michael Moore practically handed Bush his second
term on a
silver platter."
"The outcry from professional journalists over these
pay-for-commentary
scandals is not surprising," the source added. "They violated the
journalistic code of honor. It's appalling to think that these men
received
compensation for weaving their biases into their work. Meanwhile,
thousands
of hard-working journalists do the same thing every day at no extra
charge."
I am not going to buy into this latest propaganda about Bush paying
Moore, it sounds ridiculous.
It's satire.
But I will say this, I do believe that
American's tend to want to look at their President in good faith. When
Clinton was attacked, it helped him. When Bush was attacked, it helped
him. Maybe there is something to be learned here by both parties with
all their negative campaigning.
The trick is - don't deserve the attacks. Clinton did it, Bush failed.
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| User: "Elmo" |
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13 Jan 2005 03:32:10 AM |
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In article <1105392423.075237.94680@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
Gactimus wrote:
Even as Tribune Media Services announced it had dropped columnist
Armstrong
Williams after he admitted receiving $241,000 from the Department of
Education to promote 'No Child Left Behind', new allegations surfaced
today
that the Bush administration may have paid Michael Moore to oppose
the
president's reelection.
Mr. Moore and the White House both deny the charges, but critics
point to the
"almost scary" relationship between Mr. Bush's electoral success and
the
vigorous efforts of the Oscar-winning filmmaker to tarnish the
president's
image.
"The more he attacked Bush, the more Americans loved the president,"
said an
unnamed spokesman for the American Society of Correspondents, Editors
and
Writers. "You don't have to be Oliver Stone to see the outlines of a
conspiracy there. Michael Moore practically handed Bush his second
term on a
silver platter."
"The outcry from professional journalists over these
pay-for-commentary
scandals is not surprising," the source added. "They violated the
journalistic code of honor. It's appalling to think that these men
received
compensation for weaving their biases into their work. Meanwhile,
thousands
of hard-working journalists do the same thing every day at no extra
charge."
I am not going to buy into this latest propaganda about Bush paying
Moore, it sounds ridiculous. But I will say this, I do believe that
American's tend to want to look at their President in good faith. When
Clinton was attacked, it helped him. When Bush was attacked, it helped
him. Maybe there is something to be learned here by both parties with
all their negative campaigning.
Is this another example of his faith?
http://www.cnn.com/2005/ALLPOLITICS/01/12/ridge.lobbyists.ap/index.html
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| User: "" |
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11 Jan 2005 03:50:51 PM |
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Mr. Moore is truly a great world and American citizen. Unlike those in
the White House and Pentagon, he is not deaf, dumb, and blind!
==
He wrote:
Dear Friends,
Last night, at the People's Choice Awards, "Fahrenheit 9/11" was named
the Best Movie of the Year. It was a stunning moment for us. And,
somewhere inside the Bush White House, someone there must have been
stunned, too.
21 million people voted in the People's Choice Awards. They chose our
film over "Shrek 2," "Spiderman 2" and "The Incredibles." If we can
beat that many superheroes, surely we can survive the next four years.
I can think of no greater honor for us this year than the award
bestowed upon us last night by the American people. On live television,
with no threat of my remarks being censored or cut short, I thanked all
of you and the rest of our fellow Americans and dedicated the prize to
the parents of our servicemen and women in Iraq, the Lila Lipscombs of
America who suffer so profoundly by the reckless actions of the Bush
administration.
(If you'd like to see what I said -- this time, no riot! -- you can
click here. I even dressed up!)
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Watch the film clip:
http://michaelmoore.com/_media/pcaawardslong.mov
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Read the rest of MM's letter:
http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/message/index.php?id=181
============
"Patriotism is supporting your country all the time and the government
when it deserves it."
-Mark Twain
.....
A few good sources for news:
http://DemocracyNow.org
http://www.TruthOut.org
http://www.BuzzFlash.com/
http://www.CommonDreams.org/
http://Alternet.org
==============
"The developed nations of the world cannot remain secure islands of
prosperity in a seething sea of poverty. The storm is rising against
the privileged minority of the earth, from which there is no shelter in
isolation and armament. The storm will not abate until a just
distribution of the fruits of the earth enables men everywhere to live
in dignity and human decency." Martin Luther King, Jr
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This land in OUR Land
That land is THEIR Land
Bush is FULL of *****
Our troops DON'T belong in it.
Their blood's soaking Iraqi soil
So Bush's buddies can control their oil
and get richer, do you get the picture?
THIS land belongs to you and me.
===================================
"...mankind [will advance] into a civilization and a state of
consciousness in which right human relations and worldwide cooperation
for the good of all will be the universal keynote." Djwhal Khul
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| User: "John Savard" |
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11 Jan 2005 03:24:54 PM |
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On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 13:58:39 -0600, Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> quoted,
in part:
Michael Moore practically handed Bush his second term on a
silver platter.
That makes sense if Michael Moore's charges against Bush are ridiculous,
nonsensical, and laughable.
On the other hand, if Michael Moore was the courageous fellow who first
brought the awful truth about Bush to public attention, it would not
have been wise for Bush supporters to encourage him.
Are you _sure_ this didn't come from the Onion?
John Savard
http://home.ecn.ab.ca/~jsavard/index.html
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| User: "Gactimus" |
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11 Jan 2005 11:30:43 PM |
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jsavard@excxn.aNOSPAMb.cdn.invalid (John Savard) wrote in
news:41e3ef41.1156561@news.ecn.ab.ca:
On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 13:58:39 -0600, Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> quoted,
in part:
Michael Moore practically handed Bush his second term on a
silver platter.
That makes sense if Michael Moore's charges against Bush are ridiculous,
nonsensical, and laughable.
On the other hand, if Michael Moore was the courageous fellow who first
brought the awful truth about Bush to public attention, it would not
have been wise for Bush supporters to encourage him.
Michael Moore isn't in the truth business. He's only out to advance his
agenda while making a buck.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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12 Jan 2005 04:33:53 AM |
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Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:
jsavard@excxn.aNOSPAMb.cdn.invalid (John Savard) wrote in
On the other hand, if Michael Moore was the courageous fellow who first
brought the awful truth about Bush to public attention, it would not
have been wise for Bush supporters to encourage him.
Michael Moore isn't in the truth business. He's only out to advance his
agenda while making a buck.
Almost like he's a Republican.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "John Savard" |
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12 Jan 2005 05:04:34 AM |
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On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 17:30:43 -0600, Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote,
in part:
Michael Moore isn't in the truth business. He's only out to advance his
agenda while making a buck.
Whether or not he *intends* to tell the truth, I certainly agree that in
Fahrenheit 9/11 he very much failed to do so.
However, people like myself who disparage that film usually also believe
the President would not stoop to such underhanded tactics.
John Savard
http://home.ecn.ab.ca/~jsavard/index.html
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| User: "" |
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11 Jan 2005 03:59:16 PM |
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wow,
president Bush is so clever !
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| User: "Gunner" |
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10 Jan 2005 11:08:01 PM |
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On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 13:58:39 -0600, Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:
Even as Tribune Media Services announced it had dropped columnist Armstrong
Williams after he admitted receiving $241,000 from the Department of
Education to promote 'No Child Left Behind', new allegations surfaced today
that the Bush administration may have paid Michael Moore to oppose the
president's reelection.
Mr. Moore and the White House both deny the charges, but critics point to the
"almost scary" relationship between Mr. Bush's electoral success and the
vigorous efforts of the Oscar-winning filmmaker to tarnish the president's
image.
"The more he attacked Bush, the more Americans loved the president," said an
unnamed spokesman for the American Society of Correspondents, Editors and
Writers. "You don't have to be Oliver Stone to see the outlines of a
conspiracy there. Michael Moore practically handed Bush his second term on a
silver platter."
"The outcry from professional journalists over these pay-for-commentary
scandals is not surprising," the source added. "They violated the
journalistic code of honor. It's appalling to think that these men received
compensation for weaving their biases into their work. Meanwhile, thousands
of hard-working journalists do the same thing every day at no extra charge."
Its pretty obvious the Left paid Jabba the Moore. Probably with Soros
funding.
Shrug. I dont see any problem with the Williams thing, nor do I see
any problem with the Left paying Michael the Hutt.
Gunner
"At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child -
miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied,
demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless.
Liberalism is a philosphy of sniveling brats." -- P.J. O'Rourke
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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11 Jan 2005 04:58:58 AM |
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Gunner <gunner@lightspeed.net> wrote:
Its pretty obvious the Left paid Jabba the Moore. Probably with Soros
funding.
It's pretty obvious that you're a stupid *****. Moore has enough
money to pay his own way and is richer now that his latest movie
made so much money.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Gunner" |
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11 Jan 2005 07:59:57 AM |
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On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 04:58:58 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) wrote:
Gunner <gunner@lightspeed.net> wrote:
Its pretty obvious the Left paid Jabba the Moore. Probably with Soros
funding.
It's pretty obvious that you're a stupid *****. Moore has enough
money to pay his own way and is richer now that his latest movie
made so much money.
Moore doesnt ***** without getting a cut. He, like most rich Leftists,
is a mercenary of the worst kind.
Ill bet you'd suck his *****, wouldnt you?
Gunner
Ray Felcher
"At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child -
miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied,
demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless.
Liberalism is a philosphy of sniveling brats." -- P.J. O'Rourke
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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11 Jan 2005 03:17:44 PM |
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Gunner <gunner@lightspeed.net> wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
Gunner <gunner@lightspeed.net> wrote:
Its pretty obvious the Left paid Jabba the Moore. Probably with Soros
funding.
It's pretty obvious that you're a stupid *****. Moore has enough
money to pay his own way and is richer now that his latest movie
made so much money.
Moore doesnt ***** without getting a cut. He, like most rich Leftists,
is a mercenary of the worst kind.
Unlike you? Or are you the kind who would kill people and then
steal when was left?
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Gunner" |
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11 Jan 2005 03:51:43 PM |
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On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:17:44 GMT, (Ray
Fischer) wrote:
Gunner <gunner@lightspeed.net> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote:
Gunner <gunner@lightspeed.net> wrote:
Its pretty obvious the Left paid Jabba the Moore. Probably with Soros
funding.
It's pretty obvious that you're a stupid *****. Moore has enough
money to pay his own way and is richer now that his latest movie
made so much money.
Moore doesnt ***** without getting a cut. He, like most rich Leftists,
is a mercenary of the worst kind.
Unlike you? Or are you the kind who would kill people and then
steal when was left?
Nope. Im not that sort. You have cites to the contrary or are you
simply running out of bile?
Gunner
Ray the Felcher
"At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child -
miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied,
demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless.
Liberalism is a philosphy of sniveling brats." -- P.J. O'Rourke
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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11 Jan 2005 04:30:13 PM |
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Gunner <gunner@lightspeed.net> wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
Gunner <gunner@lightspeed.net> wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
Gunner <gunner@lightspeed.net> wrote:
Its pretty obvious the Left paid Jabba the Moore. Probably with Soros
funding.
It's pretty obvious that you're a stupid *****. Moore has enough
money to pay his own way and is richer now that his latest movie
made so much money.
Moore doesnt ***** without getting a cut. He, like most rich Leftists,
is a mercenary of the worst kind.
Unlike you? Or are you the kind who would kill people and then
steal when was left?
Nope. Im not that sort. You have cites to the contrary or are you
simply running out of bile?
Bile? As in "mercenary of the worst kind"?
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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