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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "YOELK"
Date: 02 May 2004 05:16:12 PM
Object: Bush or Kerry
Republicans vs. Democrats, Liberals vs. Conservatives, who cares?
I see amazingky how most of the Usenet is obsessed with US elections
and propaganda.
Well, I don't live in the US and I am tired of it,
for me the clowns had arrived to town, but hey, I want a break from
this circus. Not that I don't like you americans, on the contrary,
but how long would we suffer from it?
-----
YOELK
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User: "Michelle Malkin"

Title: Re: Bush or Kerry 02 May 2004 07:17:10 PM
"YOELK" <jkrup@shani.net> wrote in message
news:28891102.0405021416.464c160d@posting.google.com...

Republicans vs. Democrats, Liberals vs. Conservatives, who cares?
I see amazingky how most of the Usenet is obsessed with US elections
and propaganda.

Well, I don't live in the US and I am tired of it,
for me the clowns had arrived to town, but hey, I want a break from
this circus. Not that I don't like you americans, on the contrary,
but how long would we suffer from it?

-----
YOELK

Until November, at the very least - depending on who wins and
which Party is in control.
.

User: "Fred Stone"

Title: Re: Bush or Kerry 02 May 2004 05:37:51 PM
(YOELK) wrote in
news:28891102.0405021416.464c160d@posting.google.com:

Republicans vs. Democrats, Liberals vs. Conservatives, who cares?
I see amazingky how most of the Usenet is obsessed with US elections
and propaganda.

Newsreader filters rule!

Well, I don't live in the US and I am tired of it,
for me the clowns had arrived to town, but hey, I want a break from
this circus. Not that I don't like you americans, on the contrary,
but how long would we suffer from it?

At least six more months. Then either the partisan whining gets worse or a
new bunch of partisan whiners take over. :-)
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Cthulhu for President! Why vote for a lesser evil?
.

User: "jwk"

Title: Re: Bush or Kerry 06 May 2004 11:41:55 AM
(YOELK) wrote in message news:<28891102.0405021416.464c160d@posting.google.com>...

Republicans vs. Democrats, Liberals vs. Conservatives, who cares?
I see amazingky how most of the Usenet is obsessed with US elections
and propaganda.

Well, I don't live in the US and I am tired of it,
for me the clowns had arrived to town, but hey, I want a break from
this circus. Not that I don't like you americans, on the contrary,
but how long would we suffer from it?

It never stops. Filter it out, turn off the TV/radio, or go insane.
I recommend the latter. If you can take the institutional food.
jwk
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User: "Enkidu"

Title: Re: Bush or Kerry 02 May 2004 06:45:37 PM
In article <28891102.0405021416.464c160d@posting.google.com>,
jkrup@shani.net says...

Republicans vs. Democrats, Liberals vs. Conservatives, who cares?
I see amazingky how most of the Usenet is obsessed with US elections
and propaganda.

Well, I don't live in the US and I am tired of it,
for me the clowns had arrived to town, but hey, I want a break from
this circus. Not that I don't like you americans, on the contrary,
but how long would we suffer from it?

A hell of a long time, if Bush wins!
--
Enkidu - AA# 2165
"Today is a fine day for reality . . ."
.

User: "Daniel Kolle"

Title: Re: Bush or Kerry 03 May 2004 04:31:35 PM
On 2 May 2004 15:16:12 -0700,
(YOELK) thought hard and
said:

Republicans vs. Democrats, Liberals vs. Conservatives, who cares?
I see amazingky how most of the Usenet is obsessed with US elections
and propaganda.

Well, I don't live in the US and I am tired of it,
for me the clowns had arrived to town, but hey, I want a break from
this circus. Not that I don't like you americans, on the contrary,
but how long would we suffer from it?

About five more months. Depending on who wins, there may be more
celebrating or bitching in this group. But in reality, bitching over
politics will never end, now will it?
--
-Daniel "Mr. Brevity" Kolle; 16 A.A. #2035
Koji Kondo, Yo-Yo Ma, Gustav Mahler, and Krzysztof Penderecki are my Gods.
Head of EAC Denial Department and Madly Insane Scientist.
.

User: "raven1"

Title: Re: Bush or Kerry 02 May 2004 11:35:58 PM
On 2 May 2004 15:16:12 -0700,
(YOELK) wrote:

Republicans vs. Democrats, Liberals vs. Conservatives, who cares?
I see amazingky how most of the Usenet is obsessed with US elections
and propaganda.

Well, I don't live in the US and I am tired of it,
for me the clowns had arrived to town, but hey, I want a break from
this circus. Not that I don't like you americans, on the contrary,
but how long would we suffer from it?

We'll all be suffering for a very long time if Bush wins in
November...
.
User: "Phÿltêr"

Title: Re: Bush or Kerry 03 May 2004 08:55:01 AM
raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> astounded us with:
news:3qib90huqj0degj1o6mstc7svm4jrilnu9@4ax.com:

On 2 May 2004 15:16:12 -0700,

(YOELK) wrote:

Republicans vs. Democrats, Liberals vs. Conservatives, who cares?
I see amazingky how most of the Usenet is obsessed with US elections
and propaganda.

Well, I don't live in the US and I am tired of it,
for me the clowns had arrived to town, but hey, I want a break from
this circus. Not that I don't like you americans, on the contrary,
but how long would we suffer from it?


We'll all be suffering for a very long time if Bush wins in
November...



Ooooooooohhhh yeah........
And won't it be a sad indictment on the mentality of the majority of the
USA?
A reputation as a gawwwd fearin'funnymentalist country not TOO far removed
from a Taliban Afghanistan.
Of course, in *some* circles, that's already the view.
--
Phÿltêr
Denizen of Darkness #44 & AFJC Antipodean Attaché
http://afjc.clickhalah.com/forum/index.php
Change "freeway" to "hotmail" to respond
.
User: "JTEM"

Title: Re: Bush or Kerry 03 May 2004 11:12:16 AM
"Phÿltêr" <Phÿltêr@freeway.com> wrote

Ooooooooohhhh yeah........
And won't it be a sad indictment on the mentality of the
majority of the USA?

According to the neo-con ***** eaters, that was *Exactly*
the case in 2000, when Al Gore beat George Dubya by
more than half a million votes.
.
User: "Daniel Kolle"

Title: Re: Bush or Kerry 03 May 2004 04:32:43 PM
On Mon, 3 May 2004 12:12:16 -0400, "JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com>
thought hard and said:


"Phÿltêr" <Phÿltêr@freeway.com> wrote

Ooooooooohhhh yeah........
And won't it be a sad indictment on the mentality of the
majority of the USA?


According to the neo-con ***** eaters, that was *Exactly*
the case in 2000, when Al Gore beat George Dubya by
more than half a million votes.

Oh, here you go with this "popular vote" thing again.
--
-Daniel "Mr. Brevity" Kolle; 16 A.A. #2035
Koji Kondo, Yo-Yo Ma, Gustav Mahler, and Krzysztof Penderecki are my Gods.
Head of EAC Denial Department and Madly Insane Scientist.
.
User: "JTEM"

Title: Re: Bush or Kerry 04 May 2004 11:56:34 AM
"Daniel Kolle" <DKolle@hotmail.com> wrote

Oh, here you go with this "popular vote" thing again.

Gore won the Electoral College as well, if you ignore the
voting scams in Florida.
But that's neither here nor there, as the thrust was "majority,"
what the "majority" of the American people wanted.
Clearly Bush suppoters were in a minority in 2000.
.
User: "Fred Stone"

Title: Re: Bush or Kerry 04 May 2004 12:12:05 PM
"JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com> wrote in news:c8ednVnsVsGwVwrdRVn-
uw@comcast.com:


"Daniel Kolle" <DKolle@hotmail.com> wrote

Oh, here you go with this "popular vote" thing again.


Gore won the Electoral College as well, if you ignore the
voting scams in Florida.

The Democrats control the Congress, if you ignore the Republicans.

But that's neither here nor there, as the thrust was "majority,"
what the "majority" of the American people wanted.

Clearly Bush suppoters were in a minority in 2000.





--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Cthulhu for President! Why vote for a lesser evil?
.
User: "JTEM"

Title: Re: Bush or Kerry 05 May 2004 12:06:39 AM
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote

Gore won the Electoral College as well, if you ignore the
voting scams in Florida.

The Democrats control the Congress, if you ignore the Republicans.

Are you saying that the Republicans took control of congress using
means similar to their imaginary 2000 election win, or are you once
again demonstrating your lack of comprehension?
Bush "claims" a victory of only a few hundred votes in Florida, with
over 60,000 ballots (overwhelming coming from Democratic districts)
never counted. This is in addition to the 50,000 voters "accidentally"
thrown off the voter rolls, the vast majory black & Democratic (Gore
received over 90% of the black votes in Florida).
.
User: "Fred Stone"

Title: Re: Bush or Kerry 05 May 2004 03:37:28 AM
"JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:F_GdnTEMSYXX6AXd4p2dnA@comcast.com:


"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote

Gore won the Electoral College as well, if you ignore the
voting scams in Florida.


The Democrats control the Congress, if you ignore the Republicans.


Are you saying that the Republicans took control of congress using
means similar to their imaginary 2000 election win, or are you once
again demonstrating your lack of comprehension?

Bush "claims" a victory of only a few hundred votes in Florida, with
over 60,000 ballots (overwhelming coming from Democratic districts)
never counted. This is in addition to the 50,000 voters "accidentally"
thrown off the voter rolls, the vast majory black & Democratic (Gore
received over 90% of the black votes in Florida).

JTEM, your lying numbers just keep getting bigger and bigger.
Next you'll claim to have a two-inch *****.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Cthulhu for President! Why vote for a lesser evil?
.
User: "JTEM"

Title: Re: Bush or Kerry 05 May 2004 03:10:34 PM
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote

JTEM,

You know (well, actually you have no idea), but it would be
interesting if you once -- even once -- managed to say
something.
Not that you don't routinely splatter useless trolling on a
constant basis, it's just that there's no need. We know exactly
what you're going to say before you ever say it.
.
User: "Fred Stone"

Title: Re: Bush or Kerry 05 May 2004 05:06:29 PM
"JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:2bednTWNp8O41ATd4p2dnA@comcast.com:


"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote

JTEM,


You know (well, actually you have no idea), but it would be
interesting if you once -- even once -- managed to say
something.

Is that why you're always in such a hurry to contradict me? Because I
don't say anything?

Not that you don't routinely splatter useless trolling on a
constant basis, it's just that there's no need. We know exactly
what you're going to say before you ever say it.

Yeah, you're just *soooo* easy.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Cthulhu for President! Why vote for a lesser evil?
.
User: "JTEM"

Title: Re: Bush or Kerry 05 May 2004 11:25:43 PM
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote

Is that why you're always in such a hurry to contradict me?

Contradict you? Please. Reality contradicts you. Like all those
throughly refutes "cites" you like to offer. And, while we're at
it, where are those WMDs that Saddam Hussein has stockpiled?
Well, *****? Put up or shut up.
.
User: "Fred Stone"

Title: Re: Bush or Kerry 06 May 2004 05:03:32 AM
"JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com> wrote in news:ltOdnaz7zYKsIATdRVn-
sw@comcast.com:


"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote

Is that why you're always in such a hurry to contradict me?


Contradict you? Please. Reality contradicts you. Like all those
throughly refutes "cites" you like to offer.

Is that why you snip them instead of refuting them?

And, while we're at
it, where are those WMDs that Saddam Hussein has stockpiled?
Well, *****? Put up or shut up.

I told you, they're up your ***** next to your head.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Cthulhu for President! Why vote for a lesser evil?
.




User: "Topelgeno"

Title: Re: Bush or Kerry 08 May 2004 05:22:06 AM


Bush "claims" a victory of only a few hundred votes in Florida, with
over 60,000 ballots (overwhelming coming from Democratic districts)
never counted. This is in addition to the 50,000 voters "accidentally"
thrown off the voter rolls, the vast majory black & Democratic (Gore
received over 90% of the black votes in Florida).


JTEM, your lying numbers just keep getting bigger and bigger.
Next you'll claim to have a two-inch *****.

--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Cthulhu for President! Why vote for a lesser evil?






Yes this issue is way old but JTEMs numbers are only wronge in that they are
all LOW. I was in Florida and if Gore had asked for the WHOLE state hand
counted, which was his right he'd have won, in fact by George Bush's Texas law
he'd have won easily. It was a severe miscalculation on Gores part.
.
User: "Fred Stone"

Title: Re: Bush or Kerry 08 May 2004 07:32:45 AM
(Topelgeno) wrote in
news:20040508062206.09993.00000482@mb-m23.aol.com:


Bush "claims" a victory of only a few hundred votes in Florida, with
over 60,000 ballots (overwhelming coming from Democratic districts)
never counted. This is in addition to the 50,000 voters
"accidentally" thrown off the voter rolls, the vast majory black &
Democratic (Gore received over 90% of the black votes in Florida).


JTEM, your lying numbers just keep getting bigger and bigger.
Next you'll claim to have a two-inch *****.

--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Cthulhu for President! Why vote for a lesser evil?






Yes this issue is way old but JTEMs numbers are only wronge in that
they are all LOW. I was in Florida and if Gore had asked for the WHOLE
state hand counted, which was his right he'd have won, in fact by
George Bush's Texas law he'd have won easily. It was a severe
miscalculation on Gores part.

Only by counting all the invalid ballots for Gore.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Cthulhu for President! Why vote for a lesser evil?
.
User: "Topelgeno"

Title: Re: Bush or Kerry 10 May 2004 02:44:33 AM


Only by counting all the invalid ballots for Gore.

NO you are wronge, many 1000s of ballots had ligitimate votes by both Florida
and Texas legal standards, but due to malfunctioning machines were not counted
.. It is law that these votes be hand counted if requested and the machines
can't be relied on, this is a fact of Florida law circa 2000, again Gores
mistake was asking for limited recounting which is not law. A ballot with a
legal vote and SIGNED was not counted but clearly could have been by hand . The
fault was with the ballot maker, asking for a signature and the machine makers
not allowing for a signature and vote to go through. this is but one example of
over a dozen . Yours is the knee jerk reaction of many at the time , I am
surprised that with time you are still ignorant of the facts. Before you
respond negatively realise I put the blame with Gore.
.
User: "Fred Stone"

Title: Re: Bush or Kerry 10 May 2004 07:02:13 AM
(Topelgeno) wrote in
news:20040510034433.11274.00000615@mb-m20.aol.com:


Only by counting all the invalid ballots for Gore.


NO you are wronge, many 1000s of ballots had ligitimate votes by both
Florida and Texas legal standards, but due to malfunctioning machines
were not counted . It is law that these votes be hand counted if
requested and the machines can't be relied on, this is a fact of
Florida law circa 2000, again Gores mistake was asking for limited
recounting which is not law. A ballot with a legal vote and SIGNED was
not counted but clearly could have been by hand . The fault was with
the ballot maker, asking for a signature and the machine makers not
allowing for a signature and vote to go through. this is but one
example of over a dozen . Yours is the knee jerk reaction of many at
the time , I am surprised that with time you are still ignorant of the
facts. Before you respond negatively realise I put the blame with
Gore.

I am quite familiar with the facts. I lived in Florida at the time, and
I have researched the case thoroughly in the course of discussions on
this newsgroup.
Saying it was Gore's fault for not recounting the whole state merely
obscures the point that Gore did not get a majority of the legitimate
votes in Florida.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Cthulhu for President! Why vote for a lesser evil?
.
User: "Topelgeno"

Title: Re: Bush or Kerry 10 May 2004 08:16:48 AM

lived in Florida at the time, and
I have researched the case thoroughly in the course of discussions on
this newsgroup.

Saying it was Gore's fault for not recounting the whole state merely
obscures the point that Gore did not get a majority of the legitimate
votes in Florida.

--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Cthulhu for President! Why vote for a lesser evil?






This is absurd , you have not read what I've written, yes Bush got a majority
of the legitimate votes that were COUNTED we all know that, I never said
otherwise but there were many 1000s of LEGITIMATE votes that were not counted
due to many reasons ,{ way too many ways of voting and much of it faulty }, I
gave you one . If you refuse to see this then you paint yourself a partisan in
the face of glaring reality. A ballot that has a clear indication , a filled in
circle in this case , in it's proper place and a signature where asked for is a
legitimate vote BUT looks like a double vote to a machine and is spit out as a
non vote, in affect a vote turned into a non vote due to design failure. In a
hand count these votes are always counted changing the out come of many
elections every year . If you still don't get this point then I give up.
.
User: "Fred Stone"

Title: Re: Bush or Kerry 10 May 2004 08:49:18 AM
(Topelgeno) wrote in
news:20040510091648.27526.00001231@mb-m11.aol.com:

lived in Florida at the time, and
I have researched the case thoroughly in the course of discussions on
this newsgroup.

Saying it was Gore's fault for not recounting the whole state merely
obscures the point that Gore did not get a majority of the legitimate
votes in Florida.

--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Cthulhu for President! Why vote for a lesser evil?


This is absurd , you have not read what I've written, yes Bush got a
majority of the legitimate votes that were COUNTED we all know that, I
never said otherwise but there were many 1000s of LEGITIMATE votes
that were not counted due to many reasons ,{ way too many ways of
voting and much of it faulty }, I gave you one . If you refuse to see
this then you paint yourself a partisan in the face of glaring
reality. A ballot that has a clear indication , a filled in circle in
this case , in it's proper place and a signature where asked for is a
legitimate vote BUT looks like a double vote to a machine and is spit
out as a non vote, in affect a vote turned into a non vote due to
design failure. In a hand count these votes are always counted
changing the out come of many elections every year . If you still
don't get this point then I give up.

Your mention of a "filled in circle" proves that you're uninformed. Most
of the invalid ballots in Florida were punch-card aka "butterfly"
ballots, not mark/sense forms. The "pregnant or dimpled chad" problem
and the proposed, subjective methods of deciding "voter intent" are what
I was referring to.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Cthulhu for President! Why vote for a lesser evil?
.
User: "Topelgeno"

Title: Re: Bush or Kerry 12 May 2004 09:15:36 AM


Your mention of a "filled in circle" proves that you're uninformed. Most
of the invalid ballots in Florida were punch-card aka "butterfly"
ballots, not mark/sense forms. The "pregnant or dimpled chad" problem
and the proposed, subjective methods of deciding "voter intent" are what
I was referring to.

--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Cthulhu for President! Why vote for a lesser evil?






you're wronge , most of the ballots in the news were punch type because they
are harder to desern, the marked ballots were the most prevalent used type in
fl and were not talked about because they are easier to desern. interestingly
the punch type were what caused bush in texas to sign the most liberal hand
count laws in the country just prior to this event . the punch type are one of
the hardest for machines because the punch often comes up against metal and
can't go thru to creat a hole another malfunction resolved by hand counting.
that's enough of this .
.
User: "Fred Stone"

Title: Re: Bush or Kerry 12 May 2004 12:21:47 PM
(Topelgeno) wrote in
news:20040512101536.29731.00001209@mb-m05.aol.com:


Your mention of a "filled in circle" proves that you're uninformed.
Most of the invalid ballots in Florida were punch-card aka "butterfly"
ballots, not mark/sense forms. The "pregnant or dimpled chad" problem
and the proposed, subjective methods of deciding "voter intent" are
what I was referring to.

--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Cthulhu for President! Why vote for a lesser evil?







you're wronge , most of the ballots in the news were punch type
because they
are harder to desern, the marked ballots were the most prevalent used
type in fl and were not talked about because they are easier to
desern.

Precisely.
interestingly the punch type were what caused bush in texas to

sign the most liberal hand count laws in the country just prior to
this event . the punch type are one of the hardest for machines
because the punch often comes up against metal and can't go thru to
creat a hole another malfunction resolved by hand counting. that's
enough of this .

Yeah, you just got done making my point for me. Thanks.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Cthulhu for President! Why vote for a lesser evil?
.
User: "Topelgeno"

Title: Re: Bush or Kerry 13 May 2004 06:45:34 AM

Yeah, you just got done making my point for me. Thanks.

actually I made the point long ago ,the new point is that by taking away the
hand count not only were the difficult to decern votes not counted but 1000s of
easily to decern marked ballot votes were also taken away,{ baby out with the
bath water} {marked ballots, just the most prevalent of many easily decerned
types} second new point ,george Bush in texas saw that punched ballots were
most accurately counted by hand and so he made that law in close votes ,
interestingly the people who had problems with the punch ballots in fl being
hand counted were republicans not the people actually hand counting them , they
had no problems. so while punch ballots were harder to decern only a few were
invalid or not decernable and in the end only a handfull out of 67 counties
were counted, with Gore projected to make up 25000plus VALID votes in
remaining 60plus counties by half a dozen independent studies, and a recent
documentary by texas REPUBLICANS finding Gore winning by 10000. original point
, Gore should have asked for whole state, his right.
.



User: "mathew"

Title: Re: Bush or Kerry 19 May 2004 02:33:09 PM
In article <Xns94E563EB697D7fstone69@207.69.154.205>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:

Your mention of a "filled in circle" proves that you're uninformed. Most
of the invalid ballots in Florida were punch-card aka "butterfly"
ballots, not mark/sense forms. The "pregnant or dimpled chad" problem
and the proposed, subjective methods of deciding "voter intent" are what
I was referring to.

It doesn't matter what methods you use to decide voter intent, though, that's
the point. If you pick a single set of methods--whatever set you want--and do
a state-wide recount under that consistent set of standards, Gore wins the
electoral college.
If that set of consistent standards for voter intent discounts all hanging
chad, doesn't matter--Gore still wins.
Ironically, about the only scenario in which Gore loses is if only the areas
where he requested a recount, get a recount.
It's a beautiful piece of karma, in fact. If Bush had allowed Gore's selective
recount requests, Gore would have lost fair and square; and if Gore had done
the ethical thing and demanded that all votes be counted the same way across
the whole state, he would have won. Both men suffered because of their lust for
power.
None of which alters the fact that the votes *should* all have been evaluated
according to a single, consistent standard; and all votes meeting the chosen
statewide requirements should have been counted. And that would have
resulted in Gore winning the electoral college, as has been documented by the
independent post-election reviews of the ballots.
mathew
.
User: "JTEM"

Title: Re: Bush or Kerry 19 May 2004 06:23:36 PM
"mathew" <meta@pobox.com> wrote

It's a beautiful piece of karma, in fact. If Bush had allowed
Gore's selective recount requests, Gore would have lost
fair and square;

Your fantasy here is in pretending that either Al Gore or George
Bush got to decide. They didn't. The Florida courts decided if
there'd be a re-count, and how that re-count should take place.
The fact that you are spewing nonsense -- the thoroughly discredited
claims of Bush supporters -- is merely incidental.
THERE WAS NO STUDY that claimed Al Gore would have won
a recount of the entire state, but not a re-count that only included the
most disputed states. Yes, numerous people have made the claim
that there was, but the study is online and it doesn't even address
such questions.
Al Gore was mostly concerned with what is called "Undervotes."
These are ballots that were never once counted by anyone, or any
machine. The vast majority of these "Undervotes" came from
heavily Democratic districts, and they numbered at about 60,000.
There were easily enough "Undervotes" to change the official
election results several times over, considering that Bush only
claimed a margin of "victory" of only a few hundred votes.

and if Gore had done the ethical thing

Gore did the ethical thing. In fact, he did the *Only* thing he could
do, the only thing the law allowed him to do. He went before a
judge and requested a re-count.
The Florida courts granted that requests, and the Florida courts
(*Not* Al Gore) dictated the manner in which that re-count would
take place.
The Supreme Court refused to over-turn the Florida courts decision.
In fact, any & every court could have made the exact same decision
and it would have stood. What the Supreme Court decided on was
an EXCEPTION. They did *Not* over-turn the Florida courts, they
did *Not* set any precedents, ruling anything improper or illegal.
Instead, they set the Florida courts decision ASIDE for this *One*
race in this *One* state for this *One* election.
.










User: "jwk"

Title: Re: Bush or Kerry 06 May 2004 11:39:17 AM
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message news:<Xns94DF864B57D23fstone69@207.69.154.205>...

"JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com> wrote in news:c8ednVnsVsGwVwrdRVn-
uw@comcast.com:


"Daniel Kolle" <DKolle@hotmail.com> wrote

Oh, here you go with this "popular vote" thing again.


Gore won the Electoral College as well, if you ignore the
voting scams in Florida.


The Democrats control the Congress, if you ignore the Republicans.

We tried that, but if you don't watch them they cause a lot of trouble.
jwk
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User: "Topelgeno"

Title: Re: Bush or Kerry 08 May 2004 05:11:09 AM


Clearly Bush suppoters were in a minority in 2000.










Then the writing was all over Texas for people to see and was missed, now it's
all over America and the world , if it's missed again we deserve the mess Bush
will be sure to continue.
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