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"Fredric L. Rice" |
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05 Jun 2004 10:16:17 AM |
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Bush says he "rules at the behest of God" |
The President who says he rules at the behest of God can also
tongue-lash those he perceives as disloyal, calling them "fucking
assholes" in front of other staff, berating one cabinet official in
front of others and labeling anyone who disagrees with him
"unpatriotic" or "anti-American
http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_4636.shtml
Jun 4th, 2004
Bush's Erratic Behavior Worries White House Aides
By DOUG THOMPSON
President George W. Bush’s increasingly erratic behavior and wide mood
swings has the halls of the West Wing buzzing lately as aides
privately express growing concern over their leader’s state of mind.
In meetings with top aides and administration officials, the President
goes from quoting the Bible in one breath to obscene tantrums against
the media, Democrats and others that he classifies as "enemies of the
state."
Worried White House aides paint a portrait of a man on the edge,
increasingly wary of those who disagree with him and paranoid of a
public that no longer trusts his policies in Iraq or at home.
"It reminds me of the Nixon days," says a longtime GOP political
consultant with contacts in the White House.
"Everybody is an enemy; everybody is out to get him. That’s the mood
over there."
In interviews with a number of White House staffers who were willing
to talk off the record, a picture of an administration under siege has
emerged, led by a man who declares his decisions to be "God’s will"
and then tells aides to "***** over" anyone they consider to be an
opponent of the administration.
"We’re at war, there’s no doubt about it. What I don’t know anymore is
just who the enemy might be," says one troubled White House aide.
"We seem to spend more time trying to destroy John Kerry than al Qaeda
and our enemies list just keeps growing and growing."
Aides say the President gets "hung up on minor details," micromanaging
to the extreme while ignoring the bigger picture.
He will spend hours personally reviewing and approving every attack ad
against his Democratic opponent and then kiss off a meeting on
economic issues.
"This is what is killing us on Iraq," one aide says.
"We lost focus. The President got hung up on the weapons of mass
destruction and an unproven link to al Qaeda. We could have found
other justifiable reasons for the war but the President insisted the
focus stay on those two, tenuous items."
Aides who raise questions quickly find themselves shut out of access
to the President or other top advisors.
Among top officials, Bush’s inner circle is shrinking.
Secretary of State Colin Powell has fallen out of favor because of his
growing doubts about the administration’s war against Iraq.
The President's abrupt dismissal of CIA Directory George Tenet
Wednesday night is, aides say, an example of how he works.
"Tenet wanted to quit last year but the President got his back up and
wouldn't hear of it," says an aide.
"That would have been the opportune time to make a change, not in the
middle of an election campaign but when the director challenged the
President during the meeting Wednesday, the President cut him off by
saying 'that's it George. I cannot abide disloyalty. I want your
resignation and I want it now."
Tenet was allowed to resign "voluntarily" and Bush informed his
shocked staff of the decision Thursday morning.
One aide says the President actually described the decision as "God's
will."
God may also be the reason Attorney General John Ashcroft, the
administration’s lightning rod because of his questionable actions
that critics argue threatens freedoms granted by the Constitution,
remains part of the power elite.
West Wing staffers call Bush and Ashcroft "the Blues Brothers" because
"they’re on a mission from God."
"The Attorney General is tight with the President because of
religion," says one aide.
"They both believe any action is justifiable in the name of God."
But the President who says he rules at the behest of God can also
tongue-lash those he perceives as disloyal, calling them "fucking
assholes" in front of other staff, berating one cabinet official in
front of others and labeling anyone who disagrees with him
"unpatriotic" or "anti-American."
"The mood here is that we’re under siege, there’s no doubt about it,"
says one troubled aide who admits he is looking for work elsewhere.
"In this administration, you don’t have to wear a turban or speak
Farsi to be an enemy of the United States. All you have to do is
disagree with the President."
The White House did not respond to requests for comment on the record.
---
Scientology tries to disrupt terrorist attacks relief efforts: http://www.cosvm.org/
"Bush is doing what's necessary to keep the military in top form." -- David Wilson
"Top form for an S&M porno." == Jingo
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| User: "LawsonE" |
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| Title: Re: Bush says he "rules at the behest of God" |
04 Jun 2004 10:55:45 PM |
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"Fredric L. Rice" <REMOVEFRice@SkepticTank.ORG> wrote in message
news:10c2f7191a26v3e@corp.supernews.com...
The President who says he rules at the behest of God can also
tongue-lash those he perceives as disloyal, calling them "fucking
assholes" in front of other staff, berating one cabinet official in
front of others and labeling anyone who disagrees with him
"unpatriotic" or "anti-American
http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_4636.shtml
Jun 4th, 2004
Bush's Erratic Behavior Worries White House Aides
By DOUG THOMPSON
President George W. Bush's increasingly erratic behavior and wide mood
swings has the halls of the West Wing buzzing lately as aides
privately express growing concern over their leader's state of mind.
Careful when you quote Doug Thompson. He's known to be kinda lax when
background-checking his sources.
"Kinda" lax...
http://www.capitolhillblue.com/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi?archive=19&num=2529
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| User: "Phÿltêr" |
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| Title: Re: Bush says he "rules at the behest of God" |
05 Jun 2004 01:41:24 AM |
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(Fredric L. Rice) astounded us with:
news:10c2f7191a26v3e@corp.supernews.com:
West Wing staffers call Bush and Ashcroft "the Blues Brothers" because
"they’re on a mission from God."
It'd be funny if it wasn't so scary
--
Phÿltêr
Denizen of Darkness #44 & AFJC Antipodean Attaché
http://afjc.clickhalah.com/forum/index.php
Change "freeway" to "hotmail" to respond
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: Bush says he "rules at the behest of God" |
05 Jun 2004 07:03:53 AM |
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On Sat, 05 Jun 2004 06:41:24 GMT, "Phÿltêr" <Phÿltêr@freeway.com> wrote:
REMOVEFRice@SkepticTank.ORG (Fredric L. Rice) astounded us with:
news:10c2f7191a26v3e@corp.supernews.com:
West Wing staffers call Bush and Ashcroft "the Blues Brothers" because
"they’re on a mission from God."
It'd be funny if it wasn't so scary
It'd be scary if it wasn't true.
duke
*****
John 6
53Jesus said to them, "I tell you the truth, unless
you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his
blood, you have no life in you. 54Whoever eats my
flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I
will raise him up at the last day.
*****
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| User: "Rev. Desertphile" |
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15 Sep 2004 10:40:53 PM |
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On Sat, 05 Jun 2004 15:16:17 GMT, (Fredric
L. Rice) wrote:
http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_4636.shtml
Jun 4th, 2004
Bush's Erratic Behavior Worries White House Aides
By DOUG THOMPSON
President George W. Bush’s increasingly erratic behavior and wide mood
swings has the halls of the West Wing buzzing lately as aides
privately express growing concern over their leader’s state of mind.
Wow. Nazi Germany deja vu all over again.
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"Terrorism" isn't the enemy: George W Bush is!
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| User: "Robin Hull" |
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| Title: Re: Bush says he "rules at the behest of God" |
16 Sep 2004 02:30:47 AM |
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(Rev. Desertphile) wrote in message news:<41490b26.9250573@news.individual.net>...
On Sat, 05 Jun 2004 15:16:17 GMT, (Fredric
L. Rice) wrote:
http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_4636.shtml
Jun 4th, 2004
Bush's Erratic Behavior Worries White House Aides
By DOUG THOMPSON
President George W. Bush?s increasingly erratic behavior and wide mood
swings has the halls of the West Wing buzzing lately as aides
privately express growing concern over their leader?s state of mind.
Wow. Nazi Germany deja vu all over again.
And the English Civil War. It was Charley I's insistence that "God"
put him in charge and consequent refusal to accept any disagreement
that forced a showdown with Parliament. Unfortunately, Cromwell also
had a nasty dose of religion so the ancestors were trapped between a
rock and a hard place :-(
At least Kerry seems fairly rational
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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16 Sep 2004 04:05:39 AM |
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On 16 Sep 2004 00:30:47 -0700, (Robin Hull)
wrote:
desertphile@cchr.ws (Rev. Desertphile) wrote in message news:<41490b26.9250573@news.individual.net>...
On Sat, 05 Jun 2004 15:16:17 GMT, (Fredric
L. Rice) wrote:
http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_4636.shtml
Jun 4th, 2004
Bush's Erratic Behavior Worries White House Aides
By DOUG THOMPSON
President George W. Bush?s increasingly erratic behavior and wide mood
swings has the halls of the West Wing buzzing lately as aides
privately express growing concern over their leader?s state of mind.
Wow. Nazi Germany deja vu all over again.
And the English Civil War. It was Charley I's insistence that "God"
put him in charge and consequent refusal to accept any disagreement
that forced a showdown with Parliament. Unfortunately, Cromwell also
had a nasty dose of religion so the ancestors were trapped between a
rock and a hard place :-(
At least Kerry seems fairly rational
So you are saying that Kerry is an atheist, or an agnostic?
All other options, in an educated adult, are not based on rationality.
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| User: "Robin Hull" |
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16 Sep 2004 09:03:53 AM |
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Michael Gray <fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in message news:<pqlik09091ck60ieg2l823gn87ejb0rc3m@4ax.com>...
On 16 Sep 2004 00:30:47 -0700, (Robin Hull)
wrote:
desertphile@cchr.ws (Rev. Desertphile) wrote in message news:<41490b26.9250573@news.individual.net>...
On Sat, 05 Jun 2004 15:16:17 GMT, (Fredric
L. Rice) wrote:
http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_4636.shtml
Jun 4th, 2004
Bush's Erratic Behavior Worries White House Aides
By DOUG THOMPSON
President George W. Bush?s increasingly erratic behavior and wide mood
swings has the halls of the West Wing buzzing lately as aides
privately express growing concern over their leader?s state of mind.
Wow. Nazi Germany deja vu all over again.
And the English Civil War. It was Charley I's insistence that "God"
put him in charge and consequent refusal to accept any disagreement
that forced a showdown with Parliament. Unfortunately, Cromwell also
had a nasty dose of religion so the ancestors were trapped between a
rock and a hard place :-(
At least Kerry seems fairly rational
So you are saying that Kerry is an atheist, or an agnostic?
All other options, in an educated adult, are not based on rationality.
I did say "fairly" :-)
I suspect that professing atheism in "God's own country" would be
political suicide just now, so you never know....
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| User: "Az_" |
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| Title: Re: Bush says he "rules at the behest of God" |
16 Sep 2004 09:58:44 AM |
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Michael Gray <fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in message news:<pqlik09091ck60ieg2l823gn87ejb0rc3m@4ax.com>...
On 16 Sep 2004 00:30:47 -0700, (Robin Hull)
wrote:
desertphile@cchr.ws (Rev. Desertphile) wrote in message news:<41490b26.9250573@news.individual.net>...
On Sat, 05 Jun 2004 15:16:17 GMT, (Fredric
L. Rice) wrote:
http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_4636.shtml
Jun 4th, 2004
Bush's Erratic Behavior Worries White House Aides
By DOUG THOMPSON
President George W. Bush?s increasingly erratic behavior and wide mood
swings has the halls of the West Wing buzzing lately as aides
privately express growing concern over their leader?s state of mind.
Wow. Nazi Germany deja vu all over again.
And the English Civil War. It was Charley I's insistence that "God"
put him in charge and consequent refusal to accept any disagreement
that forced a showdown with Parliament. Unfortunately, Cromwell also
had a nasty dose of religion so the ancestors were trapped between a
rock and a hard place :-(
At least Kerry seems fairly rational
So you are saying that Kerry is an atheist, or an agnostic?
All other options, in an educated adult, are not based on rationality.
I suspect the implication is that Kerry is not so delusional that he
believes he is being guided by god into plunging the world into a war
against an idea. Kerry may believe in god but he seems guided by
reason for the most part.
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| User: "John Baker" |
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16 Sep 2004 07:35:15 AM |
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On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 18:35:39 +0930, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:
On 16 Sep 2004 00:30:47 -0700, (Robin Hull)
wrote:
desertphile@cchr.ws (Rev. Desertphile) wrote in message news:<41490b26.9250573@news.individual.net>...
On Sat, 05 Jun 2004 15:16:17 GMT, (Fredric
L. Rice) wrote:
http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_4636.shtml
Jun 4th, 2004
Bush's Erratic Behavior Worries White House Aides
By DOUG THOMPSON
President George W. Bush?s increasingly erratic behavior and wide mood
swings has the halls of the West Wing buzzing lately as aides
privately express growing concern over their leader?s state of mind.
Wow. Nazi Germany deja vu all over again.
And the English Civil War. It was Charley I's insistence that "God"
put him in charge and consequent refusal to accept any disagreement
that forced a showdown with Parliament. Unfortunately, Cromwell also
had a nasty dose of religion so the ancestors were trapped between a
rock and a hard place :-(
At least Kerry seems fairly rational
So you are saying that Kerry is an atheist, or an agnostic?
All other options, in an educated adult, are not based on rationality.
AFAIK, Kerry is a Catholic. However, it seems at least at the moment
that he doesn't intend to allow whatever religious beliefs he may hold
to have a major influence on his policy decisions. Unlike Bush.
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| User: "George Washington Hayduke" |
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16 Sep 2004 08:43:23 PM |
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(Rev. Desertphile) wrote:
On Sat, 05 Jun 2004 15:16:17 GMT, (Fredric
L. Rice) wrote:
http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_4636.shtml
Jun 4th, 2004
Bush's Erratic Behavior Worries White House Aides
By DOUG THOMPSON
President George W. Bush’s increasingly erratic behavior and wide mood
swings has the halls of the West Wing buzzing lately as aides
privately express growing concern over their leader’s state of mind.
I believe that this piece is a hoax. The "disgnosis" was performed
by a man who never met Bush so his opinions are irrelevant.
Wow. Nazi Germany deja vu all over again.
It's worse than that: The Bush supporters of today aren't under
physical threat of death or prison if they oppose this fascist
monster whereas the people of Nazi Germany were, having much
less choice in the matter than Americans still manage to have
today.
+--+
|Rathergate explosive: Yep, Killian Documents are genuine:
| http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2004/09/11/MNGO68NEKR1.DTL
| http://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/11/politics/campaign/11guard.html
| http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2004-09-09bushdocs.pdf
| http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2004/09/14/bush_service/index.html
| http://www.sunday-times.co.uk/news/pages/sti/2000/06/18/stifgnusa02001.html
| http://www.independent-media.tv/item.cfm?fmedia_id=5508&fcategory_desc=Under%20Reported
|Hezbollah endorses George W. Bush: http://www.hezbollah.ws/
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| User: "patrick_darcy" |
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16 Sep 2004 10:48:32 PM |
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George Washington Hayduke wrote:
desertphile@cchr.ws (Rev. Desertphile) wrote:
On Sat, 05 Jun 2004 15:16:17 GMT, (Fredric
L. Rice) wrote:
http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_4636.shtml
Jun 4th, 2004
Bush's Erratic Behavior Worries White House Aides
By DOUG THOMPSON
President George W. Bush’s increasingly erratic behavior and wide mood
swings has the halls of the West Wing buzzing lately as aides
privately express growing concern over their leader’s state of mind.
I believe that this piece is a hoax. The "disgnosis" was performed
by a man who never met Bush so his opinions are irrelevant.
Wow. Nazi Germany deja vu all over again.
It's worse than that: The Bush supporters of today aren't under
physical threat of death or prison if they oppose this fascist
monster whereas the people of Nazi Germany were, having much
less choice in the matter than Americans still manage to have
today.
they arent understand physical threat, at least not yet.
i read an article that some of the right wing republicans in 2002 i think it
was prepared a bill so that churches would be allowed to put as much as 20
percent of their money into political campaigns.
if u study our past, u will find that any time the church has taken
control of government, no matter how they do it it becomes very mean
and nasty and very abusive, assuming u believe the church killing people
or torturing them is abusive.
given the direction of our country, it is quite possible that we are about
to relive history. the church will rise through the politicians and then
nab as much money as posssible from the people to make herself stronger, and
she will become even more evil.
of course most people say that this could never happen in america, we're
on the brink now.
the president telling people that he rules because God called him
is quite a statement from a man who uses filthy talk when he addresses
fellow americans. of course if the time is right for these things to happen
then the christians have to show no reaction to kind of behavior.
its happening right now.
+--+
|Rathergate explosive: Yep, Killian Documents are genuine:
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http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2004/09/11/MNGO68NEKR1.DTL
| http://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/11/politics/campaign/11guard.html
| http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2004-09-09bushdocs.pdf
| http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2004/09/14/bush_service/index.html
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http://www.sunday-times.co.uk/news/pages/sti/2000/06/18/stifgnusa02001.html
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http://www.independent-media.tv/item.cfm?fmedia_id=5508&fcategory_desc=Under%20Reported
|Hezbollah endorses George W. Bush: http://www.hezbollah.ws/
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Love is all u need.
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| User: "Matt Giwer" |
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17 Sep 2004 02:29:30 AM |
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Rev. Desertphile wrote:
Wow. Nazi Germany deja vu all over again.
Sort of looks like the communist invasion of Poland all over again.
And the communist attack on Finland and the Baltics all over again.
Pardon if I see the wrong bad guys. I state the obvious regardless of
WWII propaganda taught to children and the immature who still believe it.
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When a new justification for war is invented, it
becomes only another basis to incite war by claiming
the justification is happening.
-- The Iron Webmaster, 3223
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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17 Sep 2004 04:24:54 AM |
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On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 07:29:30 GMT, Matt Giwer
<jull43@tampabay.rr.RoMeVE.com> wrote:
Rev. Desertphile wrote:
Wow. Nazi Germany deja vu all over again.
Sort of looks like the communist invasion of Poland all over again.
And the communist attack on Finland and the Baltics all over again.
Pardon if I see the wrong bad guys. I state the obvious regardless of
WWII propaganda taught to children and the immature who still believe it.
At least Germany had a kind of lame reason to assume that the
Sudatenland was supposed to be part of Germany.
But Iraq as a natural part of the USA?
A natural part of Haliburton maybe...
Still, the US did rob Hawaii from it's orignal inhabitants under the
same pretext...
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| User: "Matt Giwer" |
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23 Sep 2004 09:21:10 PM |
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On Fri, 17 Sep 2004, Michael Gray wrote:
On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 07:29:30 GMT, Matt Giwer
<jull43@tampabay.rr.RoMeVE.com> wrote:
Rev. Desertphile wrote:
Wow. Nazi Germany deja vu all over again.
Sort of looks like the communist invasion of Poland all over again.
And the communist attack on Finland and the Baltics all over again.
Pardon if I see the wrong bad guys. I state the obvious regardless
of WWII propaganda taught to children and the immature who still believe
it.
At least Germany had a kind of lame reason to assume that the Sudatenland
was supposed to be part of Germany.
But Iraq as a natural part of the USA? A natural part of Haliburton
maybe...
Still, the US did rob Hawaii from it's orignal inhabitants under the same
pretext...
I am not saying it is other than normal US behavior since the
Louisiana Purchase wasn't enough. I just comment on the hypocrisy of the
reasons given and put the actions in proper context.
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Hodie nono Kalendas Novembres MMIV est
-- The Ferric Webceasar
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