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User: "DB"
Date: 24 Apr 2006 08:31:44 PM
Object: Bush Says He Tried to Avoid War 'To The Max,' Explains How God Shapes His Foreign Policy
http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1002385210
April 24, 2006
Bush Says He Tried to Avoid War 'To The Max,' Explains How God Shapes
His Foreign Policy
NEW YORK President Bush today said he had tried to avoid war with Iraq
"diplomatically to the max."
Speaking to a business group in Irvine, Ca., he admitted mistakes were
made in planning for the Iraq invasion, but he defended the troop
level, saying "it was the troop level necessary to do the job," and he
would commit the same number if given a second chance.
The remarks came as another former general joined seven others who in
recent days have called for the resignation of Pentagon chief Donald
Rumsfeld, saying he had mismanaged the planning and execution of the
war.
Bush also explained, in unusually stark terms, how his belief in God
influences his foreign policy. "I base a lot of my foreign policy
decisions on some things that I think are true," he said. "One, I
believe there's an Almighty. And, secondly, I believe one of the great
gifts of the Almighty is the desire in everybody's soul, regardless of
what you look like or where you live, to be free.
"I believe liberty is universal. I believe people want to be free. And
I know that democracies do not war with each other."
A new CNN poll released today shows Bush with his lowest approval
rating in any poll so far, at 32%.
Taking questions from members of the Orange County Business Council,
Bush said the United States erred in attempting large reconstruction
projects soon after the invasion was completed. This "didn't make any
sense," he said, because they "became convenient targets for the
enemy."
Bush said he'd sat in a California church on Sunday near a mother and
stepfather grieving for their son who had been killed in Iraq. "I also
want to let you know that before you commit troops that you must do
everything that you can to solve the problem diplomatically," he
commented. "And I can look you in the eye and tell you I feel I tried
to solve the problem diplomatically to the max and would have
committed troops both in Afghanistan and Iraq, knowing what I know
today."
One decision he questions: After the successful invasion, "preparing
an Iraqi army for an external threat. Well, it turns out there may
have been an external threat but it's nothing compared to the internal
threat." He did not explain what external threat the Iraqis were being
trained for.
In his remarks, the president repeatedly referred to the need to stay
in Iraq to deny terrorists a "safe haven." He asserted, according to
the White House transcript that, "Iraq has -- had weapons of mass
destruction and has the knowledge as to how to produce weapons of mass
destruction." He also said that our enemies "know, and it doesn't take
much to realize, that when you put carnage on our TV screens, it
causes us to weep."
He also said: "It's not easy work, by the way, to go from tyranny to
democracy. We had kind of a round go ourself, if you look back at our
history. My Secretary of State's relatives were enslaved in the United
States even though we had a Constitution that said all were -- that
believed in the dignity, or at least proclaimed to believe in the
dignity of all. The Articles of Confederation wasn't exactly a real
smooth start for our government to begin. And what you're watching on
your TV screens is a new democracy emerging."
---------------------------------------------------
“The fundamental question is, did Saddam Hussein have a weapons
program? And the answer is, absolutely. And we gave him a chance to
allow inspectors in, and he wouldn’t let them in. And therefore, after
a reasonable request, we decided to remove him from power." - George
W. Bush, July 25, 2003
US warns arms inspectors to leave Baghdad
March 17, 2003 (Reuters) - The United States has advised the United
Nations to pull its weapons inspectors out of Iraq, the head of the UN
nuclear watchdog said on Monday in the clearest signal to date that
war is imminent.
.

User: "Matti Partonen"

Title: Re: Bush Says He Tried to Avoid War 'To The Max,' Explains How God Shapes His Foreign Policy 25 Apr 2006 02:28:29 AM
"DB" <DB@notaol.com> wrote in message
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http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1002385210
April 24, 2006
Bush Says He Tried to Avoid War 'To The Max,' Explains How God Shapes
His Foreign Policy

NEW YORK President Bush today said he had tried to avoid war with Iraq
"diplomatically to the max."

[....]


" ... And
I know that democracies do not war with each other."

This is what Bush and Christian Williamson keep touting.
However, there seem to be exceptions. One notable one is the US, which has a
long record of toppling democratically elected governments of other
countries. Ok, perhaps technically these do not count as wars, but the
result is pretty much the same: death and suffering.
Matti P.
.

User: "Black Elk"

Title: Re: Bush Says He Tried to Avoid War 'To The Max,' Explains How God Shapes His Foreign Policy 24 Apr 2006 09:47:37 PM

April 24, 2006
Bush Says He Tried to Avoid War 'To The Max,' Explains How God Shapes
His Foreign Policy

NEW YORK President Bush today said he had tried to avoid war with Iraq
"diplomatically to the max."

---
Published on Monday, April 24, 2006 by CBS News
CIA Spy Speaks Out
by David Gelber and Joel Bach
When no weapons of mass destruction surfaced in Iraq, President Bush
insisted that all those WMD claims before the war were the result of faulty
intelligence. But a former top CIA official, Tyler Drumheller - a 26-year
veteran of the agency - has decided to do something CIA officials at his
level almost never do: Speak out.
He tells correspondent Ed Bradley the real failure was not in the
intelligence community but in the White House. He says he saw how the Bush
administration, time and again, welcomed intelligence that fit the
president's determination to go to war and turned a blind eye to
intelligence that did not.
"It just sticks in my craw every time I hear them say it's an intelligence
failure. It's an intelligence failure. This was a policy failure,"
Drumheller tells Bradley.
Drumheller was the CIA's top man in Europe, the head of covert operations
there, until he retired a year ago. He says he saw firsthand how the White
House promoted intelligence it liked and ignored intelligence it didn't:
"The idea of going after Iraq was U.S. policy. It was going to happen one
way or the other," says Drumheller.
-cont.-
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines06/0424-03.htm
.

User: "Black Elk"

Title: Re: Bush Says He Tried to Avoid War 'To The Max,' Explains How God Shapes His Foreign Policy 24 Apr 2006 08:51:07 PM

Bush Says He Tried to Avoid War 'To The Max,' Explains How God Shapes
His Foreign Policy

NEW YORK President Bush today said he had tried to avoid war with Iraq
"diplomatically to the max."

The man has no honor, integrity or decency. He should be telling his lies in
the docket at the Hague.
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Bush Says He Tried to Avoid War 'To The Max,' Explains How God Shapes His Foreign Policy 28 Apr 2006 04:40:46 PM
On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 19:51:07 -0600, "Black Elk"
<windriver2000@yahoo.com> wrote in alt.atheism

Bush Says He Tried to Avoid War 'To The Max,' Explains How God Shapes
His Foreign Policy

NEW YORK President Bush today said he had tried to avoid war with Iraq
"diplomatically to the max."


The man has no honor, integrity or decency. He should be telling his lies in
the docket at the Hague.

Along with the rest of his traitorous crew.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
.

User: ""

Title: Re: Bush Says He Tried to Avoid War 'To The Max,' Explains How God Shapes His Foreign Policy 25 Apr 2006 01:13:13 PM
On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 19:51:07 -0600, "Black Elk"
<windriver2000@yahoo.com> wrote:

Bush Says He Tried to Avoid War 'To The Max,' Explains How God Shapes
His Foreign Policy

NEW YORK President Bush today said he had tried to avoid war with Iraq
"diplomatically to the max."


The man has no honor, integrity or decency. He should be telling his lies in
the docket at the Hague.

I suspect 30 years from now he may be. Ala Pinochet.
____
Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are
putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it. - Mark Twain
.

User: "Jennie"

Title: Re: Bush Says He Tried to Avoid War 'To The Max,' Explains How God Shapes His Foreign Policy 24 Apr 2006 08:54:05 PM
That is what I said yesterday...God made Bush do it...Bush is helping God
fill heaven with Iraqi souls...Mission Accomplished Mr. Bush!
--
http://politics.guardian.co.uk/iraq/story/0,,1700881,00.html
http://www.thememoryhole.org/war/wounded/gallery.htm
Terrorism can never be erased with force...With force you create more
terrorist... by Jennie
Only way to beat terrorist is to use terrorist tactics...set traps, snipers.
No amount of conventional warfare will work...
Traitors is DC. A traitor is one who betrays one's country, a cause, or a
trust, especially one who commits treason.
Bush has awakened us, the poor and middle class Americans...We are watching
and waiting to cast our votes...
The Constitution says "We the People" not "We the Special Interest Groups."
Americans Vote!
"Black Elk" <windriver2000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Bush Says He Tried to Avoid War 'To The Max,' Explains How God Shapes
His Foreign Policy

NEW YORK President Bush today said he had tried to avoid war with Iraq
"diplomatically to the max."


The man has no honor, integrity or decency. He should be telling his lies
in the docket at the Hague.




.
User: "Nosmo King"

Title: Re: Bush Says He Tried to Avoid War 'To The Max,' Explains How God Shapes His Foreign Policy 24 Apr 2006 09:21:28 PM
"Jennie" <hnix@adelphia.net> wrote in
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That is what I said yesterday...God made Bush do it...Bush is helping
God fill heaven with Iraqi souls...Mission Accomplished Mr. Bush!

And if you really believe that, you're a bigger moron than Georgie is.
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User: "Thurisaz, Germanic barbarian"

Title: Re: Bush Says He Tried to Avoid War 'To The Max,' Explains How God Shapes His Foreign Policy 24 Apr 2006 11:31:20 PM
DB wrote:


http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1002385210

April 24, 2006
Bush Says He Tried to Avoid War 'To The Max,' Explains How God Shapes
His Foreign Policy

Translation:

Bush Says He Tried to Avoid War 'To The Max,' Explains How he is unfit to

lead the most powerful nation of the world
--
"To his friend a man a friend shall prove, and gifts with gifts requite;
But men shall mocking with mockery answer, and fraud with falsehood meet."
(The Poetic Edda)
Must have been written with fundies in mind...
My personal judgment of monotheism:
http://www.carcosa.de/nojebus
.

User: "Ron Olin"

Title: Re: Bush Says He Tried to Avoid War 'To The Max,' Explains How GodShapes His Foreign Policy 24 Apr 2006 07:55:50 PM
DB wrote:

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1002385210
April 24, 2006
Bush Says He Tried to Avoid War 'To The Max,' Explains How God Shapes
His Foreign Policy

NEW YORK President Bush today said he had tried to avoid war with Iraq
"diplomatically to the max."

Oh 'm god! Gag me with a spoon. That's so grody - like ewww!
Is Bush trying to appeal to Valley Girls now?
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Bush Says He Tried to Avoid War 'To The Max,' Explains How God Shapes His Foreign Policy 28 Apr 2006 04:39:25 PM
On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 00:55:50 GMT, Ron Olin <ronolin@telus.net> wrote in
alt.atheism

DB wrote:

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1002385210
April 24, 2006
Bush Says He Tried to Avoid War 'To The Max,' Explains How God Shapes
His Foreign Policy

NEW YORK President Bush today said he had tried to avoid war with Iraq
"diplomatically to the max."


Oh 'm god! Gag me with a spoon. That's so grody - like ewww!

Is Bush trying to appeal to Valley Girls now?

BushCo is filled with pussies and cretins so that follows.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
.

User: "Panama Floyd"

Title: Re: Bush Says He Tried to Avoid War 'To The Max,' Explains How God Shapes His Foreign Policy 25 Apr 2006 01:10:47 AM
Ron Olin wrote:

DB wrote:

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1002385210
April 24, 2006
Bush Says He Tried to Avoid War 'To The Max,' Explains How God Shapes
His Foreign Policy

NEW YORK President Bush today said he had tried to avoid war with Iraq
"diplomatically to the max."


Oh 'm god! Gag me with a spoon. That's so grody - like ewww!

Is Bush trying to appeal to Valley Girls now?

Any porthole in a storm, eh?
-Panama Floyd, Atl.
aa#2015, Member Knights of BAAWA!
EAC Martian Commander
"..the prayer cloth of one aeon is the doormat of the next."
-Mark Twain
Religious societies are *less* moral than secular ones:
http://moses.creighton.edu/JRS/2005/2005-11.html
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Bush Says He Tried to Avoid War 'To The Max,' Explains How God Shapes His Foreign Policy 28 Apr 2006 04:40:18 PM
On 24 Apr 2006 23:10:47 -0700, "Panama Floyd" <panamaflyd@aol.com> wrote
in alt.atheism

Ron Olin wrote:

DB wrote:

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1002385210
April 24, 2006
Bush Says He Tried to Avoid War 'To The Max,' Explains How God Shapes
His Foreign Policy

NEW YORK President Bush today said he had tried to avoid war with Iraq
"diplomatically to the max."


Oh 'm god! Gag me with a spoon. That's so grody - like ewww!

Is Bush trying to appeal to Valley Girls now?


Any porthole in a storm, eh?

Knot hole for Shrub. Fucking *****. [pbuh]
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
.



User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Bush Lied Again When He Says He Tried to Avoid War 'To The Max,' Explains How God Shapes His Foreign Policy 28 Apr 2006 04:38:20 PM
On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 19:31:44 -0600, DB <DB@notaol.com> wrote in
alt.atheism

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1002385210
April 24, 2006
Bush Says He Tried to Avoid War 'To The Max,' Explains How God Shapes
His Foreign Policy

[snip bush *****]
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
.

User: "Roedy Green"

Title: Re: Bush Says He Tried to Avoid War 'To The Max,' Explains How God Shapes His Foreign Policy 24 Apr 2006 07:40:10 PM
On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 19:31:44 -0600, DB <DB@notaol.com> wrote, quoted
or indirectly quoted someone who said :


NEW YORK President Bush today said he had tried to avoid war with Iraq
"diplomatically to the max."

This is of course a lie. Bush even turned down Saddam's offer to
surrender. He wanted to invade. He wanted more than just Saddam's
scalp.
--
Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green.
http://mindprod.com Java custom programming, consulting and coaching.
.
User: "Gorf"

Title: Re: Bush Says He Tried to Avoid War 'To The Max,' Explains How God Shapes His Foreign Policy 24 Apr 2006 10:21:50 PM
"Roedy Green" <my_email_is_posted_on_my_website@munged.invalid> wrote in
message news:gtrq42lfart8ehepddg353bu17jt86i090@4ax.com...

On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 19:31:44 -0600, DB <DB@notaol.com> wrote, quoted
or indirectly quoted someone who said :


NEW YORK President Bush today said he had tried to avoid war with Iraq
"diplomatically to the max."


This is of course a lie. Bush even turned down Saddam's offer to
surrender. He wanted to invade. He wanted more than just Saddam's
scalp.

Sadam made an offer to Bush to dual to the death. Of course the chicken
***** diclined and let the army do his dirty work.....
.
User: "kathryn"

Title: Re: Bush Says He Tried to Avoid War 'To The Max,' Explains How God Shapes His Foreign Policy 25 Apr 2006 05:20:28 AM
"Gorf" <spam@nospam.com> wrote in message
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"Roedy Green" <my_email_is_posted_on_my_website@munged.invalid> wrote in
message news:gtrq42lfart8ehepddg353bu17jt86i090@4ax.com...

On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 19:31:44 -0600, DB <DB@notaol.com> wrote, quoted
or indirectly quoted someone who said :


NEW YORK President Bush today said he had tried to avoid war with Iraq
"diplomatically to the max."


This is of course a lie. Bush even turned down Saddam's offer to
surrender. He wanted to invade. He wanted more than just Saddam's
scalp.



Sadam made an offer to Bush to dual to the death. Of course the chicken
***** diclined and let the army do his dirty work.....

I'd of bought tickets to that! Shades of Frankie goes to Hollywood's "two
tribes"
.


User: "Larry Heath"

Title: Re: Bush Says He Tried to Avoid War 'To The Max,' Explains How God Shapes His Foreign Policy 24 Apr 2006 08:12:35 PM
"Roedy Green" <my_email_is_posted_on_my_website@munged.invalid> wrote in
message news:gtrq42lfart8ehepddg353bu17jt86i090@4ax.com...

On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 19:31:44 -0600, DB <DB@notaol.com> wrote, quoted
or indirectly quoted someone who said :


NEW YORK President Bush today said he had tried to avoid war with Iraq
"diplomatically to the max."


This is of course a lie.

Bush even turned down Saddam's offer to surrender.

I would like to see a few reliable citations that corroborates the above
statement.
If you don't mind.
Later Larry
aa # 2216
Clip other.
.

User: "Eyeball Kid"

Title: Re: Bush Says He Tried to Avoid War 'To The Max,' Explains How God Shapes His Foreign Policy 25 Apr 2006 12:52:47 AM
In article <gtrq42lfart8ehepddg353bu17jt86i090@4ax.com>, Roedy Green
<my_email_is_posted_on_my_website@munged.invalid> wrote:

On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 19:31:44 -0600, DB <DB@notaol.com> wrote, quoted
or indirectly quoted someone who said :


NEW YORK President Bush today said he had tried to avoid war with Iraq
"diplomatically to the max."


This is of course a lie. Bush even turned down Saddam's offer to
surrender. He wanted to invade. He wanted more than just Saddam's
scalp.

Er... You're not saying that he wanted the oil, are you?
Blasphemy! How dare you question His Highness the George!
It's a good thing that you're in Canada. Otherwise, you'd be hunted
down like a rabid raccoon and torn to shreds by Bush's Best. We're
about 1.5 years away from that kind of scenario right here in the USA.
Count your blessings, Roedy.
E. K.
--
"You can fool some of the people all of the time,
and those are the ones you want to concentrate on."
G.W. Bush, Gridiron Club dinner, Wash., D.C. March 2001
"I even take the position that sexual orgies eliminate social tensions and
ought to be encouraged." Antonin Scalia, September 28, 2004
"The American Way of Life is not negotiable." ***** Cheney, 2001
"The American Way of Life is heading for extinction." Eyeball Kid, 2006
Free humor. Whenever you want. http://www.psmueller.com
.
User: "Secular Human"

Title: Re: Bush Says He Tried to Avoid War 'To The Max,' Explains How GodShapes His Foreign Policy 25 Apr 2006 11:01:37 AM
Eyeball Kid wrote:

In article <gtrq42lfart8ehepddg353bu17jt86i090@4ax.com>, Roedy Green
<my_email_is_posted_on_my_website@munged.invalid> wrote:

On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 19:31:44 -0600, DB <DB@notaol.com> wrote, quoted
or indirectly quoted someone who said :

NEW YORK President Bush today said he had tried to avoid war with Iraq
"diplomatically to the max."

This is of course a lie. Bush even turned down Saddam's offer to
surrender. He wanted to invade. He wanted more than just Saddam's
scalp.


Er... You're not saying that he wanted the oil, are you?

Blasphemy! How dare you question His Highness the George!

It's a good thing that you're in Canada. Otherwise, you'd be hunted
down like a rabid raccoon and torn to shreds by Bush's Best. We're
about 1.5 years away from that kind of scenario right here in the USA.
Count your blessings, Roedy.

E. K.

Saddam offered to sell Bush oil at cut rate prices, Bush still invaded.
Bush is a complete fool and an incompetent.
.
User: "Gorf"

Title: Re: Bush Says He Tried to Avoid War 'To The Max,' Explains How God Shapes His Foreign Policy 25 Apr 2006 01:09:04 PM
"Secular Human" <eelder1@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
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Eyeball Kid wrote:

In article <gtrq42lfart8ehepddg353bu17jt86i090@4ax.com>, Roedy Green
<my_email_is_posted_on_my_website@munged.invalid> wrote:

On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 19:31:44 -0600, DB <DB@notaol.com> wrote, quoted
or indirectly quoted someone who said :

NEW YORK President Bush today said he had tried to avoid war with Iraq
"diplomatically to the max."

This is of course a lie. Bush even turned down Saddam's offer to
surrender. He wanted to invade. He wanted more than just Saddam's
scalp.


Er... You're not saying that he wanted the oil, are you?

Blasphemy! How dare you question His Highness the George!

It's a good thing that you're in Canada. Otherwise, you'd be hunted
down like a rabid raccoon and torn to shreds by Bush's Best. We're
about 1.5 years away from that kind of scenario right here in the USA.
Count your blessings, Roedy.

E. K.

Saddam offered to sell Bush oil at cut rate prices, Bush still invaded.
Bush is a complete fool and an incompetent.

But you miss the point - The war in Iraq WAS about oil - Keeping it off of
the world market. If Saddam started selling cut rate oil, what would have
happened to the oil companies profits????
.
User: "Mike V."

Title: Re: Bush Says He Tried to Avoid War 'To The Max,' Explains How God Shapes His Foreign Policy 25 Apr 2006 06:56:54 PM
On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 18:09:04 GMT, "Gorf" <spam@nospam.com> posted :


"Secular Human" <eelder1@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
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Eyeball Kid wrote:

In article <gtrq42lfart8ehepddg353bu17jt86i090@4ax.com>, Roedy Green
<my_email_is_posted_on_my_website@munged.invalid> wrote:

On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 19:31:44 -0600, DB <DB@notaol.com> wrote, quoted
or indirectly quoted someone who said :

NEW YORK President Bush today said he had tried to avoid war with Iraq
"diplomatically to the max."

This is of course a lie. Bush even turned down Saddam's offer to
surrender. He wanted to invade. He wanted more than just Saddam's
scalp.


Er... You're not saying that he wanted the oil, are you?

Blasphemy! How dare you question His Highness the George!

It's a good thing that you're in Canada. Otherwise, you'd be hunted
down like a rabid raccoon and torn to shreds by Bush's Best. We're
about 1.5 years away from that kind of scenario right here in the USA.
Count your blessings, Roedy.

E. K.

Saddam offered to sell Bush oil at cut rate prices, Bush still invaded.
Bush is a complete fool and an incompetent.


But you miss the point - The war in Iraq WAS about oil - Keeping it off of
the world market. If Saddam started selling cut rate oil, what would have
happened to the oil companies profits????

And this, my friend, was the ENTIRE reason for the invasion.
It had nothing to do with WMD, nothing to do with mushroom clouds.
It had everything to do with PNAC and their grand vision for the world
and their oil company brethren.
.

User: "kim1"

Title: Re: Bush Says He Tried to Avoid War 'To The Max,' Explains How God Shapes His Foreign Policy 25 Apr 2006 06:17:04 PM
On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 18:09:04 GMT, "Gorf" <spam@nospam.com> wrote:


"Secular Human" <eelder1@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
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Eyeball Kid wrote:

In article <gtrq42lfart8ehepddg353bu17jt86i090@4ax.com>, Roedy Green
<my_email_is_posted_on_my_website@munged.invalid> wrote:

On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 19:31:44 -0600, DB <DB@notaol.com> wrote, quoted
or indirectly quoted someone who said :

NEW YORK President Bush today said he had tried to avoid war with Iraq
"diplomatically to the max."

This is of course a lie. Bush even turned down Saddam's offer to
surrender. He wanted to invade. He wanted more than just Saddam's
scalp.


Er... You're not saying that he wanted the oil, are you?

Blasphemy! How dare you question His Highness the George!

It's a good thing that you're in Canada. Otherwise, you'd be hunted
down like a rabid raccoon and torn to shreds by Bush's Best. We're
about 1.5 years away from that kind of scenario right here in the USA.
Count your blessings, Roedy.

E. K.

Saddam offered to sell Bush oil at cut rate prices, Bush still invaded.
Bush is a complete fool and an incompetent.


But you miss the point - The war in Iraq WAS about oil - Keeping it off of
the world market. If Saddam started selling cut rate oil, what would have
happened to the oil companies profits????

Interesting observation. Is the point that the fool is a consistent
liar and should not be trusted with a piece of moldy bread?
.
User: "Gorf"

Title: Re: Bush Says He Tried to Avoid War 'To The Max,' Explains How God Shapes His Foreign Policy 25 Apr 2006 06:47:24 PM
"kim1" <kim1@nowhere.net> wrote in message
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On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 18:09:04 GMT, "Gorf" <spam@nospam.com> wrote:


"Secular Human" <eelder1@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
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Eyeball Kid wrote:

In article <gtrq42lfart8ehepddg353bu17jt86i090@4ax.com>, Roedy Green
<my_email_is_posted_on_my_website@munged.invalid> wrote:

On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 19:31:44 -0600, DB <DB@notaol.com> wrote, quoted
or indirectly quoted someone who said :

NEW YORK President Bush today said he had tried to avoid war with

Iraq

"diplomatically to the max."

This is of course a lie. Bush even turned down Saddam's offer to
surrender. He wanted to invade. He wanted more than just Saddam's
scalp.


Er... You're not saying that he wanted the oil, are you?

Blasphemy! How dare you question His Highness the George!

It's a good thing that you're in Canada. Otherwise, you'd be hunted
down like a rabid raccoon and torn to shreds by Bush's Best. We're
about 1.5 years away from that kind of scenario right here in the

USA.

Count your blessings, Roedy.

E. K.

Saddam offered to sell Bush oil at cut rate prices, Bush still invaded.
Bush is a complete fool and an incompetent.


But you miss the point - The war in Iraq WAS about oil - Keeping it off

of

the world market. If Saddam started selling cut rate oil, what would

have

happened to the oil companies profits????

Interesting observation. Is the point that the fool is a consistent
liar and should not be trusted with a piece of moldy bread?

LOL - basically. But actually much more simple, the French and Russians
already had lucrative oil contracts with Saddam, as soon as the embargo got
lifted, they kicked in - cutting out US interests and potentially flooding
the market with oil. Couldn't let that happen
.






User: ""

Title: Re: Bush Says He Tried to Avoid War 'To The Max,' Explains How God Shapes His Foreign Policy 25 Apr 2006 01:12:12 PM
On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 19:31:44 -0600, DB <DB@notaol.com> wrote:

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1002385210
April 24, 2006
Bush Says He Tried to Avoid War 'To The Max,' Explains How God Shapes
His Foreign Policy

NEW YORK President Bush today said he had tried to avoid war with Iraq
"diplomatically to the max."

He thought they were talking of Vietnam. He did try to avoid that one
"to the max".
But in Iraq let's remember the inspectors were in country and could
have been allowed to finish their job, but Bush said no.
Saddam offered to let the CIA in to do inspections, but Bush said no.
Saddam explored abdication of he and his sons and relocation - but
Bush said no.
No. he wanted the war. And anyone reading the response to 9-11in his
cabinet, or who read the PNAC reports knows it.
____
Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are
putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it. - Mark Twain
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