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"Enkidu the Atheist" |
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22 Nov 2005 04:14:31 PM |
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Bush talked of bombing Al-Jazeera |
So much for Bush supporting a liberal democracy in the Middle East.
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Bush talked of bombing Al-Jazeera
By Robert Barr, Associated Press Writer
November 22, 2005
http://tinyurl.com/75cdw
LONDON --A civil servant has been charged under Britain's Official
Secrets Act for allegedly leaking a government memo that a newspaper said
Tuesday suggested that Prime Minister Tony Blair persuaded President Bush
not to bomb the Arab satellite station Al-Jazeera.
The Daily Mirror reported that Bush spoke of targeting Al-Jazeera's
headquarters in Doha, Qatar, when he met Blair at the White House on
April 16, 2004. The Bush administration has regularly accused Al-Jazeera
of being nothing more than a mouthpiece for anti-American sentiments.
The Daily Mirror attributed its information to unidentified sources. One
source, said to be in the government, was quoted as saying that the
alleged threat was "humorous, not serious," but the newspaper quoted
another source as saying that "Bush was deadly serious, as was Blair."
Blair's office declined to comment on the report, stressing it never
discusses leaked documents.
In Qatar, Al-Jazeera said it was aware of the report, but did not wish to
comment. The U.S. Embassy in London said it was making no comment.
The document was described as a transcript of a conversation between the
two leaders.
Cabinet Office civil servant David Keogh is accused of passing it to Leo
O'Connor, who formerly worked for former British lawmaker Tony Clarke.
Both Keogh and O'Connor are scheduled to appear at London's Bow Street
Magistrates Court next week.
According to the Crown Prosecution Service, Keogh was charged with an
offense under Section 3 of the Official Secrets Act relating to "a
damaging disclosure" by a servant of the Crown of information relating to
international relations or information obtained from a state other than
the United Kingdom.
O'Connor was charged under Section 5, which relates to receiving and
disclosing illegally disclosed information.
According to the newspaper, Clarke returned the memo to Blair's office.
Clarke did not respond to calls from The Associated Press seeking
comment.
Press Association, the British news agency, said Clarke refused to
discuss the contents of the document. PA quoted Clarke as saying his
priority was to support O'Connor who did "exactly the right thing" in
bringing it to his attention.
Peter Kilfoyle, a former defense minister in Blair's government, called
for the document to be made public.
"I think they ought to clarify what exactly happened on this occasion,"
he said. "If it was the case that President Bush wanted to bomb Al-
Jazeera in what is after all a friendly country, it speaks volumes and it
raises questions about subsequent attacks that took place on the press
that wasn't embedded with coalition forces," the newspaper quoted
Kilfoyle as saying.
Sir Menzies Campbell, foreign affairs spokesman for the opposition
Liberal Democrats, said Tuesday that, if true, the memo was worrying.
"If true, then this underlines the desperation of the Bush administration
as events in Iraq began to spiral out of control," he said. "On this
occasion, the prime minister may have been successful in averting
political disaster, but it shows how dangerous his relationship with
President Bush has been."
Al-Jazeera offices in Iraq and Afghanistan have been hit by U.S. bombs or
missiles, but each time the U.S. military said they were not
intentionally targeting the broadcaster.
In April 2003, an Al-Jazeera journalist was killed when its Baghdad
office was struck during a U.S. bombing campaign. Nabil Khoury, a State
Department spokesman in Doha, said the strike was a mistake.
In November 2002, Al-Jazeera's office in Kabul, Afghanistan, was
destroyed by a U.S. missile. None of the crew was at the office at the
time. U.S. officials said they believed the target was a terrorist site
and did not know it was Al-Jazeera's office.
--
Enkidu AA#2165
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
PGP ID: 0xC4CE8CF0
Freedom is the distance between church and state.
-- bumper sticker
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: Bush talked of bombing Al-Jazeera |
22 Nov 2005 07:17:26 PM |
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Enkidu the Atheist <enkidu@leaddogs.org> wrote in
news:Xns971653E5C60B3255229@130.133.1.4:
So much for Bush supporting a liberal democracy in the Middle East.
One for the "Some people will believe anything" file.
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Bush talked of bombing Al-Jazeera
By Robert Barr, Associated Press Writer
November 22, 2005
http://tinyurl.com/75cdw
LONDON --A civil servant has been charged under Britain's Official
Secrets Act for allegedly leaking a government memo that a newspaper
said Tuesday suggested that Prime Minister Tony Blair persuaded
President Bush not to bomb the Arab satellite station Al-Jazeera.
The Daily Mirror reported that Bush spoke of targeting Al-Jazeera's
headquarters in Doha, Qatar, when he met Blair at the White House on
April 16, 2004. The Bush administration has regularly accused
Al-Jazeera of being nothing more than a mouthpiece for anti-American
sentiments.
The Daily Mirror attributed its information to unidentified sources.
One source, said to be in the government, was quoted as saying that
the alleged threat was "humorous, not serious," but the newspaper
quoted another source as saying that "Bush was deadly serious, as was
Blair."
Blair's office declined to comment on the report, stressing it never
discusses leaked documents.
In Qatar, Al-Jazeera said it was aware of the report, but did not wish
to comment. The U.S. Embassy in London said it was making no comment.
The document was described as a transcript of a conversation between
the two leaders.
Cabinet Office civil servant David Keogh is accused of passing it to
Leo O'Connor, who formerly worked for former British lawmaker Tony
Clarke. Both Keogh and O'Connor are scheduled to appear at London's
Bow Street Magistrates Court next week.
According to the Crown Prosecution Service, Keogh was charged with an
offense under Section 3 of the Official Secrets Act relating to "a
damaging disclosure" by a servant of the Crown of information relating
to international relations or information obtained from a state other
than the United Kingdom.
O'Connor was charged under Section 5, which relates to receiving and
disclosing illegally disclosed information.
According to the newspaper, Clarke returned the memo to Blair's
office. Clarke did not respond to calls from The Associated Press
seeking comment.
Press Association, the British news agency, said Clarke refused to
discuss the contents of the document. PA quoted Clarke as saying his
priority was to support O'Connor who did "exactly the right thing" in
bringing it to his attention.
Peter Kilfoyle, a former defense minister in Blair's government,
called for the document to be made public.
"I think they ought to clarify what exactly happened on this
occasion," he said. "If it was the case that President Bush wanted to
bomb Al- Jazeera in what is after all a friendly country, it speaks
volumes and it raises questions about subsequent attacks that took
place on the press that wasn't embedded with coalition forces," the
newspaper quoted Kilfoyle as saying.
Sir Menzies Campbell, foreign affairs spokesman for the opposition
Liberal Democrats, said Tuesday that, if true, the memo was worrying.
"If true, then this underlines the desperation of the Bush
administration as events in Iraq began to spiral out of control," he
said. "On this occasion, the prime minister may have been successful
in averting political disaster, but it shows how dangerous his
relationship with President Bush has been."
Al-Jazeera offices in Iraq and Afghanistan have been hit by U.S. bombs
or missiles, but each time the U.S. military said they were not
intentionally targeting the broadcaster.
In April 2003, an Al-Jazeera journalist was killed when its Baghdad
office was struck during a U.S. bombing campaign. Nabil Khoury, a
State Department spokesman in Doha, said the strike was a mistake.
In November 2002, Al-Jazeera's office in Kabul, Afghanistan, was
destroyed by a U.S. missile. None of the crew was at the office at the
time. U.S. officials said they believed the target was a terrorist
site and did not know it was Al-Jazeera's office.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"I actually think what we learned during the inspection
made Iraq a more dangerous place, potentially, than,
in fact, we thought it was even before the war." -- David Kay
http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=6075
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| User: "G-Ride" |
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| Title: Re: Bush talked of bombing Al-Jazeera |
22 Nov 2005 10:34:39 PM |
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
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Enkidu the Atheist <enkidu@leaddogs.org> wrote in
news:Xns971653E5C60B3255229@130.133.1.4:
So much for Bush supporting a liberal democracy in the Middle East.
One for the "Some people will believe anything" file.
Does this mean that Fred is acknowledging that Bush's supposed support for
democracy in the middle east is nothing but *****?
--
Aloha, G-Ride
"Like a quarrelling group of monkeys on a leaky boat, armed with sticks of
dynamite, we are now embarked on an uncertain journey."
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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| Title: Re: Bush talked of bombing Al-Jazeera |
22 Nov 2005 07:43:06 PM |
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9716917956698fstone69@213.155.197.138...
Enkidu the Atheist <enkidu@leaddogs.org> wrote in
news:Xns971653E5C60B3255229@130.133.1.4:
So much for Bush supporting a liberal democracy in the Middle East.
One for the "Some people will believe anything" file.
And one for the "Some people won't question anything" file.
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
http://www.ashenempires.com
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: Bush talked of bombing Al-Jazeera |
22 Nov 2005 08:28:24 PM |
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in news:ArmdnSEi-
K9b6R7enZ2dnUVZ_sydnZ2d@io.com:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
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Enkidu the Atheist <enkidu@leaddogs.org> wrote in
news:Xns971653E5C60B3255229@130.133.1.4:
So much for Bush supporting a liberal democracy in the Middle East.
One for the "Some people will believe anything" file.
And one for the "Some people won't question anything" file.
I'm perfectly happy to question that article.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"I actually think what we learned during the inspection
made Iraq a more dangerous place, potentially, than,
in fact, we thought it was even before the war." -- David Kay
http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=6075
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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| Title: Re: Bush talked of bombing Al-Jazeera |
23 Nov 2005 12:42:48 AM |
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in news:ArmdnSEi-
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
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Enkidu the Atheist <enkidu@leaddogs.org> wrote in
news:Xns971653E5C60B3255229@130.133.1.4:
So much for Bush supporting a liberal democracy in the Middle East.
One for the "Some people will believe anything" file.
And one for the "Some people won't question anything" file.
I'm perfectly happy to question that article.
For the simple reason that it's not Neocon Approved.
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
http://www.ashenempires.com
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: Bush talked of bombing Al-Jazeera |
23 Nov 2005 01:10:54 AM |
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in news:ArmdnSEi-
K9b6R7enZ2dnUVZ_sydnZ2d@io.com:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
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Enkidu the Atheist <enkidu@leaddogs.org> wrote in
news:Xns971653E5C60B3255229@130.133.1.4:
So much for Bush supporting a liberal democracy in the Middle
East.
One for the "Some people will believe anything" file.
And one for the "Some people won't question anything" file.
I'm perfectly happy to question that article.
For the simple reason that it's not Neocon Approved.
For the much simpler reason that it's in the Mirror. You wouldn't
believe FoxNews or WorldNetDaily, would you? So why do you believe the
Mirror?
Oh, silly question. You'll believe anything, as long as it makes Bush
look bad.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"I actually think what we learned during the inspection
made Iraq a more dangerous place, potentially, than,
in fact, we thought it was even before the war." -- David Kay
http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=6075
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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24 Nov 2005 07:18:12 AM |
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in
news:95mdneZki7aeJh7eRVn-sQ@io.com:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in news:ArmdnSEi-
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
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Enkidu the Atheist <enkidu@leaddogs.org> wrote in
news:Xns971653E5C60B3255229@130.133.1.4:
So much for Bush supporting a liberal democracy in the Middle
East.
One for the "Some people will believe anything" file.
And one for the "Some people won't question anything" file.
I'm perfectly happy to question that article.
For the simple reason that it's not Neocon Approved.
For the much simpler reason that it's in the Mirror. You wouldn't
believe FoxNews or WorldNetDaily, would you? So why do you believe the
Mirror?
Oh, silly question. You'll believe anything, as long as it makes Bush
look bad.
Did I say I believed it? No? Then what the ***** are you blathering about?
Moron.
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
http://www.ashenempires.com
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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24 Nov 2005 11:35:59 AM |
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in
news:hK-dnSWvUs6z9BjeRVn-hg@io.com:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in news:ArmdnSEi-
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
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Enkidu the Atheist <enkidu@leaddogs.org> wrote in
news:Xns971653E5C60B3255229@130.133.1.4:
So much for Bush supporting a liberal democracy in the Middle
East.
One for the "Some people will believe anything" file.
And one for the "Some people won't question anything" file.
I'm perfectly happy to question that article.
For the simple reason that it's not Neocon Approved.
For the much simpler reason that it's in the Mirror. You wouldn't
believe FoxNews or WorldNetDaily, would you? So why do you believe
the Mirror?
Oh, silly question. You'll believe anything, as long as it makes Bush
look bad.
Did I say I believed it? No? Then what the ***** are you blathering
about?
So you don't believe it? Then what the ***** are *YOU* blathering about
with that comment ? "Neocon approved". Fuckhead.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"I actually think what we learned during the inspection
made Iraq a more dangerous place, potentially, than,
in fact, we thought it was even before the war." -- David Kay
http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=6075
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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| Title: Re: Bush talked of bombing Al-Jazeera |
24 Nov 2005 03:29:02 PM |
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in news:ArmdnSEi-
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
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Enkidu the Atheist <enkidu@leaddogs.org> wrote in
news:Xns971653E5C60B3255229@130.133.1.4:
So much for Bush supporting a liberal democracy in the Middle
East.
One for the "Some people will believe anything" file.
And one for the "Some people won't question anything" file.
I'm perfectly happy to question that article.
For the simple reason that it's not Neocon Approved.
For the much simpler reason that it's in the Mirror. You wouldn't
believe FoxNews or WorldNetDaily, would you? So why do you believe
the Mirror?
Oh, silly question. You'll believe anything, as long as it makes Bush
look bad.
Did I say I believed it? No? Then what the ***** are you blathering
about?
So you don't believe it? Then what the ***** are *YOU* blathering about
with that comment ? "Neocon approved". Fuckhead.
I question both sides.
You don't question either side, to you one's automatically right and the
other's automatically wrong.
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
http://www.ashenempires.com
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: Bush talked of bombing Al-Jazeera |
24 Nov 2005 03:45:49 PM |
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in news:ArmdnSEi-
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
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Enkidu the Atheist <enkidu@leaddogs.org> wrote in
news:Xns971653E5C60B3255229@130.133.1.4:
So much for Bush supporting a liberal democracy in the Middle
East.
One for the "Some people will believe anything" file.
And one for the "Some people won't question anything" file.
I'm perfectly happy to question that article.
For the simple reason that it's not Neocon Approved.
For the much simpler reason that it's in the Mirror. You wouldn't
believe FoxNews or WorldNetDaily, would you? So why do you believe
the Mirror?
Oh, silly question. You'll believe anything, as long as it makes
Bush look bad.
Did I say I believed it? No? Then what the ***** are you blathering
about?
So you don't believe it? Then what the ***** are *YOU* blathering
about with that comment ? "Neocon approved". Fuckhead.
I question both sides.
You don't question either side, to you one's automatically right and
the other's automatically wrong.
Gee, you should get hold of James Randi and claim that million bucks for
your telepathic powers.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"I actually think what we learned during the inspection
made Iraq a more dangerous place, potentially, than,
in fact, we thought it was even before the war." -- David Kay
http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=6075
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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| Title: Re: Bush talked of bombing Al-Jazeera |
24 Nov 2005 04:25:57 PM |
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in news:ArmdnSEi-
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
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Enkidu the Atheist <enkidu@leaddogs.org> wrote in
news:Xns971653E5C60B3255229@130.133.1.4:
So much for Bush supporting a liberal democracy in the Middle
East.
One for the "Some people will believe anything" file.
And one for the "Some people won't question anything" file.
I'm perfectly happy to question that article.
For the simple reason that it's not Neocon Approved.
For the much simpler reason that it's in the Mirror. You wouldn't
believe FoxNews or WorldNetDaily, would you? So why do you believe
the Mirror?
Oh, silly question. You'll believe anything, as long as it makes
Bush look bad.
Did I say I believed it? No? Then what the ***** are you blathering
about?
So you don't believe it? Then what the ***** are *YOU* blathering
about with that comment ? "Neocon approved". Fuckhead.
I question both sides.
You don't question either side, to you one's automatically right and
the other's automatically wrong.
Gee, you should get hold of James Randi and claim that million bucks for
your telepathic powers.
It was nothing more than a cold reading based on your posting history.
But it's nice to know how little it takes to make you believe something.
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
http://www.ashenempires.com
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| User: "Mike Ruskai" |
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| Title: Re: Bush talked of bombing Al-Jazeera |
23 Nov 2005 04:35:31 PM |
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On or about Tue, 22 Nov 2005 13:43:06 -0600 did "Denis Loubet"
<dloubet@io.com> dribble thusly:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9716917956698fstone69@213.155.197.138...
Enkidu the Atheist <enkidu@leaddogs.org> wrote in
news:Xns971653E5C60B3255229@130.133.1.4:
So much for Bush supporting a liberal democracy in the Middle East.
One for the "Some people will believe anything" file.
And one for the "Some people won't question anything" file.
One would have to wonder, if it was just a librul plot to smear our
exalted leader, why the leaker was charged.
--
- Mike
Ignore the Python in me to send e-mail.
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: Bush talked of bombing Al-Jazeera |
23 Nov 2005 05:12:25 PM |
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Mike Ruskai <BUTthannydI@DONTearthlinkLIKE.netSPAM> wrote in
news:1h69o11j7t922d5118fu9o1ub4uo5rbsf9@4ax.com:
On or about Tue, 22 Nov 2005 13:43:06 -0600 did "Denis Loubet"
<dloubet@io.com> dribble thusly:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9716917956698fstone69@213.155.197.138...
Enkidu the Atheist <enkidu@leaddogs.org> wrote in
news:Xns971653E5C60B3255229@130.133.1.4:
So much for Bush supporting a liberal democracy in the Middle East.
One for the "Some people will believe anything" file.
And one for the "Some people won't question anything" file.
One would have to wonder, if it was just a librul plot to smear our
exalted leader, why the leaker was charged.
The story I've seen is that the memo in question contained other, more
sensitive material.
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Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"I actually think what we learned during the inspection
made Iraq a more dangerous place, potentially, than,
in fact, we thought it was even before the war." -- David Kay
http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=6075
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22 Nov 2005 08:06:59 PM |
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TV's Fred Stone wrote:
Enkidu the Atheist <enkidu@leaddogs.org> wrote in
news:Xns971653E5C60B3255229@130.133.1.4:
So much for Bush supporting a liberal democracy in the Middle East.
One for the "Some people will believe anything" file.
If it's a lie, then prove it. Otherwise take your fingers out of your ears
and join reality.
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aa #2133
ap #19
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22 Nov 2005 09:02:08 PM |
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"towelie" <bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:TbOdne5p9un85x7eRVn-qg@centurytel.net:
TV's Fred Stone wrote:
Enkidu the Atheist <enkidu@leaddogs.org> wrote in
news:Xns971653E5C60B3255229@130.133.1.4:
So much for Bush supporting a liberal democracy in the Middle East.
One for the "Some people will believe anything" file.
If it's a lie, then prove it. Otherwise take your fingers out of your
ears and join reality.
It's not my burden of proof, towelie.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"I actually think what we learned during the inspection
made Iraq a more dangerous place, potentially, than,
in fact, we thought it was even before the war." -- David Kay
http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=6075
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23 Nov 2005 07:15:10 AM |
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In article <Xns971653E5C60B3255229@130.133.1.4>,
Enkidu the Atheist <enkidu@leaddogs.org> wrote:
So much for Bush supporting a liberal democracy in the Middle East.
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Bush talked of bombing Al-Jazeera
By Robert Barr, Associated Press Writer
November 22, 2005
http://tinyurl.com/75cdw
LONDON --A civil servant has been charged under Britain's Official
Secrets Act for allegedly leaking a government memo that a newspaper said
Tuesday suggested that Prime Minister Tony Blair persuaded President Bush
not to bomb the Arab satellite station Al-Jazeera.
This takes Bush's war on the Press to a whole new dimension.
For those interested, here is Aljazeera'a take on the report:
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Aljazeera probes Bush 'bombing' memo
by
Wednesday 23 November 2005 6:20 AM GMT
Aljazeera says it is looking into a report in Britain's Daily Mirror
newspaper alleging that US President George Bush planned to bomb the
broadcaster's TV station.
In a statement on Tuesday, Aljazeera said it "maintains a set of
journalistic practices built on being fair, impartial, and balanced, and
as is the standard practice with every story, Aljazeera is going through
a due diligence process of verifying the details of the Daily Mirror
report".
It added: "Before making any conclusions Aljazeera needs to be
absolutely sure regarding the authenticity of the memo and would hope
for a confirmation from Downing Street as soon as possible.
"If the report is correct then this would be both shocking and worrisome
not only to Aljazeera but to media organisations across the world."
'Serious doubts'
"[If the memo is authentic] it would cast serious doubts in regard to
the US administration's version of previous incidents involving
Aljazeera's journalists and offices"
"It would also constitute a new chapter in the relationship between two
of the most powerful governments in the world and media organisations in
general.
"We sincerely urge both the White House and Downing Street to challenge
the Daily Mirror report and in the event that the memo is found to be
accurate it would be incumbent on them to explain their positions on
statements regarding the deliberate targeting of journalists and news
organisations," Aljazeera said.
In April 2003, an Aljazeera journalist died when its Baghdad office was
struck during a US bombing campaign.
In November 2002, Aljazeera's office in Kabul, Afghanistan, was
destroyed by a US missile, although no staff were in the office at the
time.
US officials said they believed the target was a "terrorist" site and
did not know it was Aljazeera's office.
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http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/63190D83-F77A-4521-A5CB-FA84D672FA
B7.htm
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
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23 Nov 2005 04:13:45 PM |
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johac <jhachm@ixpres.remove.com> wrote in
news:jhachm-BA9410.23151022112005@news.giganews.com:
In article <Xns971653E5C60B3255229@130.133.1.4>,
Enkidu the Atheist <enkidu@leaddogs.org> wrote:
So much for Bush supporting a liberal democracy in the Middle East.
-----
Bush talked of bombing Al-Jazeera
By Robert Barr, Associated Press Writer
November 22, 2005
http://tinyurl.com/75cdw
LONDON --A civil servant has been charged under Britain's Official
Secrets Act for allegedly leaking a government memo that a newspaper
said Tuesday suggested that Prime Minister Tony Blair persuaded
President Bush not to bomb the Arab satellite station Al-Jazeera.
This takes Bush's war on the Press to a whole new dimension.
The best comment I've seen so far was "Why would Bush want to bomb a CIA
front operation?"
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"I actually think what we learned during the inspection
made Iraq a more dangerous place, potentially, than,
in fact, we thought it was even before the war." -- David Kay
http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=6075
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| User: "chibiabos" |
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24 Nov 2005 02:00:24 PM |
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In article <Xns9717725E3C81Dfstone69@213.155.197.138>, Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
johac <jhachm@ixpres.remove.com> wrote in
news:jhachm-BA9410.23151022112005@news.giganews.com:
In article <Xns971653E5C60B3255229@130.133.1.4>,
Enkidu the Atheist <enkidu@leaddogs.org> wrote:
So much for Bush supporting a liberal democracy in the Middle East.
-----
Bush talked of bombing Al-Jazeera
By Robert Barr, Associated Press Writer
November 22, 2005
http://tinyurl.com/75cdw
LONDON --A civil servant has been charged under Britain's Official
Secrets Act for allegedly leaking a government memo that a newspaper
said Tuesday suggested that Prime Minister Tony Blair persuaded
President Bush not to bomb the Arab satellite station Al-Jazeera.
This takes Bush's war on the Press to a whole new dimension.
The best comment I've seen so far was "Why would Bush want to bomb a CIA
front operation?"
"Best" in the same sense as when Howard Dean said on NPR's Diane Rehm
show, "The most interesting theory that I have heard so far . . . is
that [President Bush] was warned ahead of time [about 9/11] by the
Saudis."?
-chib
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Member of S.M.A.S.H.
Sarcastic Middle-aged Atheists with a Sense of Humor
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24 Nov 2005 03:35:18 PM |
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chibiabos <chib@nospam.com> wrote in
news:241120050600242536%chib@nospam.com:
In article <Xns9717725E3C81Dfstone69@213.155.197.138>, Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
johac <jhachm@ixpres.remove.com> wrote in
news:jhachm-BA9410.23151022112005@news.giganews.com:
In article <Xns971653E5C60B3255229@130.133.1.4>,
Enkidu the Atheist <enkidu@leaddogs.org> wrote:
So much for Bush supporting a liberal democracy in the Middle
East. -----
Bush talked of bombing Al-Jazeera
By Robert Barr, Associated Press Writer
November 22, 2005
http://tinyurl.com/75cdw
LONDON --A civil servant has been charged under Britain's Official
Secrets Act for allegedly leaking a government memo that a
newspaper said Tuesday suggested that Prime Minister Tony Blair
persuaded President Bush not to bomb the Arab satellite station
Al-Jazeera.
This takes Bush's war on the Press to a whole new dimension.
The best comment I've seen so far was "Why would Bush want to bomb a
CIA front operation?"
"Best" in the same sense as when Howard Dean said on NPR's Diane Rehm
show, "The most interesting theory that I have heard so far . . . is
that [President Bush] was warned ahead of time [about 9/11] by the
Saudis."?
I don't know, was Mad How joking when he said that?
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"I actually think what we learned during the inspection
made Iraq a more dangerous place, potentially, than,
in fact, we thought it was even before the war." -- David Kay
http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=6075
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| User: "chibiabos" |
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25 Nov 2005 09:46:53 PM |
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In article <Xns97186BDA77C75fstone69@213.155.197.138>, Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
chibiabos <chib@nospam.com> wrote in
news:241120050600242536%chib@nospam.com:
In article <Xns9717725E3C81Dfstone69@213.155.197.138>, Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
johac <jhachm@ixpres.remove.com> wrote in
news:jhachm-BA9410.23151022112005@news.giganews.com:
In article <Xns971653E5C60B3255229@130.133.1.4>,
Enkidu the Atheist <enkidu@leaddogs.org> wrote:
So much for Bush supporting a liberal democracy in the Middle
East. -----
Bush talked of bombing Al-Jazeera
By Robert Barr, Associated Press Writer
November 22, 2005
http://tinyurl.com/75cdw
LONDON --A civil servant has been charged under Britain's Official
Secrets Act for allegedly leaking a government memo that a
newspaper said Tuesday suggested that Prime Minister Tony Blair
persuaded President Bush not to bomb the Arab satellite station
Al-Jazeera.
This takes Bush's war on the Press to a whole new dimension.
The best comment I've seen so far was "Why would Bush want to bomb a
CIA front operation?"
"Best" in the same sense as when Howard Dean said on NPR's Diane Rehm
show, "The most interesting theory that I have heard so far . . . is
that [President Bush] was warned ahead of time [about 9/11] by the
Saudis."?
I don't know, was Mad How joking when he said that?
Dean was not joking but that's not the point of my reply. Read what he
said again. Parse the words, independent of your clearly low opinion of
him.
-chib
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Member of S.M.A.S.H.
Sarcastic Middle-aged Atheists with a Sense of Humor
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26 Nov 2005 12:43:42 AM |
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chibiabos <chib@nospam.com> wrote in
news:251120051346531079%chib@nospam.com:
In article <Xns97186BDA77C75fstone69@213.155.197.138>, Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
chibiabos <chib@nospam.com> wrote in
news:241120050600242536%chib@nospam.com:
In article <Xns9717725E3C81Dfstone69@213.155.197.138>, Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
johac <jhachm@ixpres.remove.com> wrote in
news:jhachm-BA9410.23151022112005@news.giganews.com:
In article <Xns971653E5C60B3255229@130.133.1.4>,
Enkidu the Atheist <enkidu@leaddogs.org> wrote:
So much for Bush supporting a liberal democracy in the Middle
East. -----
Bush talked of bombing Al-Jazeera
By Robert Barr, Associated Press Writer
November 22, 2005
http://tinyurl.com/75cdw
LONDON --A civil servant has been charged under Britain's
Official Secrets Act for allegedly leaking a government memo
that a newspaper said Tuesday suggested that Prime Minister
Tony Blair persuaded President Bush not to bomb the Arab
satellite station Al-Jazeera.
This takes Bush's war on the Press to a whole new dimension.
The best comment I've seen so far was "Why would Bush want to bomb
a CIA front operation?"
"Best" in the same sense as when Howard Dean said on NPR's Diane
Rehm show, "The most interesting theory that I have heard so far .
. . is that [President Bush] was warned ahead of time [about 9/11]
by the Saudis."?
I don't know, was Mad How joking when he said that?
Dean was not joking but that's not the point of my reply. Read what he
said again. Parse the words, independent of your clearly low opinion
of him.
I still don't understand what you're getting at. I took the comment
about al Jazeera being a CIA front to be joke.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"I actually think what we learned during the inspection
made Iraq a more dangerous place, potentially, than,
in fact, we thought it was even before the war." -- David Kay
http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=6075
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23 Nov 2005 04:37:10 PM |
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TV's Fred Stone wrote:
johac <jhachm@ixpres.remove.com> wrote in
news:jhachm-BA9410.23151022112005@news.giganews.com:
In article <Xns971653E5C60B3255229@130.133.1.4>,
Enkidu the Atheist <enkidu@leaddogs.org> wrote:
So much for Bush supporting a liberal democracy in the Middle East.
-----
Bush talked of bombing Al-Jazeera
By Robert Barr, Associated Press Writer
November 22, 2005
http://tinyurl.com/75cdw
LONDON --A civil servant has been charged under Britain's Official
Secrets Act for allegedly leaking a government memo that a newspaper
said Tuesday suggested that Prime Minister Tony Blair persuaded
President Bush not to bomb the Arab satellite station Al-Jazeera.
This takes Bush's war on the Press to a whole new dimension.
The best comment I've seen so far was "Why would Bush want to bomb a CIA
front operation?"
He's not the brightest bulb on the tree.
--
aa #2133
ap #19
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