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12 Dec 2006 08:52:50 PM |
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Bush tries something new |
WASHINGTON (Reuters) -
President George W. Bush will delay announcing a new Iraq strategy until
the new year, the White House said on Tuesday amid polls showing Americans
are more pessimistic about the war and want a change.
Wow. Things must be *really bad* if GW is going to re-think his strategy
(such as it is).
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MarkA
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12 Dec 2006 09:13:36 PM |
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MarkA <toor@nowhere.com> wrote in
news:pan.2006.12.13.02.52.49.195744@nowhere.com:
WASHINGTON (Reuters) -
President George W. Bush will delay announcing a new Iraq strategy
until the new year, the White House said on Tuesday amid polls showing
Americans are more pessimistic about the war and want a change.
Wow. Things must be *really bad* if GW is going to re-think his
strategy (such as it is).
I think he gets five good thinking minutes a day. Then it's time to wipe
and flush. It'll take till January for him to think up some good
thoughts!
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Enkidu AA#2165
http://www.thoughts.leaddogs.org/
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
"A tyrant must put on the appearance of uncommon devotion to religion.
Subjects are less apprehensive of illegal treatment from a ruler whom
they consider to be God-fearing and pious."
-- Aristotle, 343 B.C.
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13 Dec 2006 01:28:33 AM |
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In article <Xns9897C3A2EF5C6255229@130.133.1.4>,
Enkidu <ox_qljjor@trashmail.net> wrote:
MarkA <toor@nowhere.com> wrote in
news:pan.2006.12.13.02.52.49.195744@nowhere.com:
WASHINGTON (Reuters) -
President George W. Bush will delay announcing a new Iraq strategy
until the new year, the White House said on Tuesday amid polls showing
Americans are more pessimistic about the war and want a change.
Wow. Things must be *really bad* if GW is going to re-think his
strategy (such as it is).
I think he gets five good thinking minutes a day. Then it's time to wipe
and flush. It'll take till January for him to think up some good
thoughts!
Which year?
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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| User: "Rich Corinthian Leather" |
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13 Dec 2006 06:37:24 PM |
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johac wrote:
In article <Xns9897C3A2EF5C6255229@130.133.1.4>,
Enkidu <ox_qljjor@trashmail.net> wrote:
MarkA <toor@nowhere.com> wrote in
news:pan.2006.12.13.02.52.49.195744@nowhere.com:
WASHINGTON (Reuters) -
President George W. Bush will delay announcing a new Iraq strategy
until the new year, the White House said on Tuesday amid polls showing
Americans are more pessimistic about the war and want a change.
Wow. Things must be *really bad* if GW is going to re-think his
strategy (such as it is).
I think he gets five good thinking minutes a day. Then it's time to wipe
and flush. It'll take till January for him to think up some good
thoughts!
Which year?
2009
RCL
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| User: "johac" |
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14 Dec 2006 12:42:33 AM |
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In article <811gh.2269$yC5.875@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net>,
Rich Corinthian Leather <inexplicable@mysterious.net> wrote:
johac wrote:
In article <Xns9897C3A2EF5C6255229@130.133.1.4>,
Enkidu <ox_qljjor@trashmail.net> wrote:
MarkA <toor@nowhere.com> wrote in
news:pan.2006.12.13.02.52.49.195744@nowhere.com:
WASHINGTON (Reuters) -
President George W. Bush will delay announcing a new Iraq strategy
until the new year, the White House said on Tuesday amid polls showing
Americans are more pessimistic about the war and want a change.
Wow. Things must be *really bad* if GW is going to re-think his
strategy (such as it is).
I think he gets five good thinking minutes a day. Then it's time to wipe
and flush. It'll take till January for him to think up some good
thoughts!
Which year?
2009
Can't wait!
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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13 Dec 2006 08:35:06 AM |
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On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 02:52:50 +0000, MarkA wrote:
WASHINGTON (Reuters) -
President George W. Bush will delay announcing a new Iraq strategy until
the new year, the White House said on Tuesday amid polls showing Americans
are more pessimistic about the war and want a change.
Wow. Things must be *really bad* if GW is going to re-think his strategy
(such as it is).
You see the polls that are pushing into 70% disapproval territory on the
question of Bush's handling of the war?
Withdrawal on a fixed timetable is getting majority support now...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
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Christianity is to religions as Windows is to operating systems.
-Scott (#1045)
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| User: "Dan Listermann" |
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13 Dec 2006 08:48:01 AM |
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"The Decider" is getting all wishy washy and is setting up for a flip flop.
Control of events disappeared a long time ago.
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
news:mJCdnRxL-9IHkh3YnZ2dnUVZ_t_inZ2d@giganews.com...
On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 02:52:50 +0000, MarkA wrote:
WASHINGTON (Reuters) -
President George W. Bush will delay announcing a new Iraq strategy until
the new year, the White House said on Tuesday amid polls showing
Americans
are more pessimistic about the war and want a change.
Wow. Things must be *really bad* if GW is going to re-think his strategy
(such as it is).
You see the polls that are pushing into 70% disapproval territory on the
question of Bush's handling of the war?
Withdrawal on a fixed timetable is getting majority support now...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
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Christianity is to religions as Windows is to operating systems.
-Scott (#1045)
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| User: "Dan Listermann" |
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14 Dec 2006 08:12:40 AM |
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It is starting to look like Bush is going to give the military option yet
another chance. When this blows up in his face, I predict that the
Republicans will dissert him en mass.
"Dan Listermann" <dan@listermann.com> wrote in message
news:12o04k0p08s4t34@corp.supernews.com...
"The Decider" is getting all wishy washy and is setting up for a flip
flop. Control of events disappeared a long time ago.
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
news:mJCdnRxL-9IHkh3YnZ2dnUVZ_t_inZ2d@giganews.com...
On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 02:52:50 +0000, MarkA wrote:
WASHINGTON (Reuters) -
President George W. Bush will delay announcing a new Iraq strategy until
the new year, the White House said on Tuesday amid polls showing
Americans
are more pessimistic about the war and want a change.
Wow. Things must be *really bad* if GW is going to re-think his
strategy
(such as it is).
You see the polls that are pushing into 70% disapproval territory on the
question of Bush's handling of the war?
Withdrawal on a fixed timetable is getting majority support now...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
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Christianity is to religions as Windows is to operating systems.
-Scott (#1045)
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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14 Dec 2006 10:00:38 AM |
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On Thu, 14 Dec 2006 09:12:40 -0500, Dan Listermann wrote:
It is starting to look like Bush is going to give the military option
yet another chance. When this blows up in his face, I predict that the
Republicans will dissert him en mass.
Apparently already are. The polls are pushing into 70% disapproval of his
"handling" of the war. That requires a major shift among Republicans to
happen.
What's going to get interesting are the rumors about the groups working on
ousting al-Maliki and his camp's comment, "We know what's going on and we
will sabotage it".
Now, that could become a conflict *nobody could avoid calling "civil war."
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Mark K. Bilbo
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"Christians, it is needless to say, utterly detest each other.
They slander each other constantly with the vilest forms of
abuse and cannot come to any sort of agreement in their
teachings. Each sect brands its own, fills the head of its
own with deceitful nonsense, and makes perfect little pigs
of those it wins over to its side." -Celsus (2nd century C.E.)
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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14 Dec 2006 02:48:01 PM |
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On Thu, 14 Dec 2006 10:00:38 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
Now, that could become a conflict *nobody could avoid calling "civil war."
The only ones who don't acknowledge that Iraq has been embroiled in a
civil war for a long time are the Fred Stone types.
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
"I have never imputed to Nature a purpose or a goal, or anything that could be under-
stood as anthropomorphic. What I see in Nature is a magnificent structure that we can
comprehend only very imperfectly, and that must fill a thinking person with a feeling of
humility. This is a genuinely religious feeling that has nothing to do with mysticism."
- 1954 or 1955; quoted in Dukas and Hoffman _Albert Einstein the Human Side_, p. 39
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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14 Dec 2006 05:11:06 PM |
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On Thu, 14 Dec 2006 15:48:01 -0500, Al Klein wrote:
On Thu, 14 Dec 2006 10:00:38 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
Now, that could become a conflict *nobody could avoid calling "civil war."
The only ones who don't acknowledge that Iraq has been embroiled in a
civil war for a long time are the Fred Stone types.
Yes but if the government itself breaks down and there's a fight for power
between two governmental factions... well, that's the classic definition
and even O'Really would have to concede the point...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
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If their omnipotent, omniscient (so they say) god wants me to
believe in him, then he should know what would prove his
existence to me. He hasn't done so yet, so there is no reason
to believe in him.
-Woden
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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14 Dec 2006 06:57:50 PM |
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On Thu, 14 Dec 2006 17:11:06 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Thu, 14 Dec 2006 15:48:01 -0500, Al Klein wrote:
On Thu, 14 Dec 2006 10:00:38 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
Now, that could become a conflict *nobody could avoid calling "civil war."
The only ones who don't acknowledge that Iraq has been embroiled in a
civil war for a long time are the Fred Stone types.
Yes but if the government itself breaks down and there's a fight for power
between two governmental factions... well, that's the classic definition
and even O'Really would have to concede the point...
Or make up a new term for it. Remember, we're no longer "staying the
course", even though we're not leaving.
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
"I've heard the call. I believe God wants me to run for president."
- George W. Bush, quoted in George Magazine, September, 2000
"God gave the savior to the German people. We have faith,
deep and unshakeable faith, that he was sent to us by
God to save Germany."
- Hermann Goering, speaking of Hitler
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| User: "Free Lunch" |
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14 Dec 2006 07:01:08 PM |
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On Thu, 14 Dec 2006 19:57:50 -0500, in alt.atheism
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in
<ims3o29c42vpud02nll2ng48sj4c05bg65@4ax.com>:
On Thu, 14 Dec 2006 17:11:06 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Thu, 14 Dec 2006 15:48:01 -0500, Al Klein wrote:
On Thu, 14 Dec 2006 10:00:38 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
Now, that could become a conflict *nobody could avoid calling "civil war."
The only ones who don't acknowledge that Iraq has been embroiled in a
civil war for a long time are the Fred Stone types.
Yes but if the government itself breaks down and there's a fight for power
between two governmental factions... well, that's the classic definition
and even O'Really would have to concede the point...
Or make up a new term for it. Remember, we're no longer "staying the
course", even though we're not leaving.
Bush's new mode is to imitate a deer caught in headlights.
Don't rush him.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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14 Dec 2006 09:53:35 PM |
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On Fri, 15 Dec 2006 01:01:08 GMT, Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us>
wrote:
On Thu, 14 Dec 2006 19:57:50 -0500, in alt.atheism
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in
<ims3o29c42vpud02nll2ng48sj4c05bg65@4ax.com>:
On Thu, 14 Dec 2006 17:11:06 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Thu, 14 Dec 2006 15:48:01 -0500, Al Klein wrote:
On Thu, 14 Dec 2006 10:00:38 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
Now, that could become a conflict *nobody could avoid calling "civil war."
The only ones who don't acknowledge that Iraq has been embroiled in a
civil war for a long time are the Fred Stone types.
Yes but if the government itself breaks down and there's a fight for power
between two governmental factions... well, that's the classic definition
and even O'Really would have to concede the point...
Or make up a new term for it. Remember, we're no longer "staying the
course", even though we're not leaving.
Bush's new mode is to imitate a deer caught in headlights.
As opposed to his old mode in which he imitated ... a buck caught in
the headlights?
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
"You know, one of the hardest parts of my job is to connect Iraq to the war
on terror."
- George W. Bush, interview with CBS News' Katie Couric, Sept.
6, 2006
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| User: "stoney" |
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23 Dec 2006 02:35:13 PM |
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On Thu, 14 Dec 2006 17:11:06 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo>
wrote in alt.atheism
On Thu, 14 Dec 2006 15:48:01 -0500, Al Klein wrote:
On Thu, 14 Dec 2006 10:00:38 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
Now, that could become a conflict *nobody could avoid calling "civil war."
The only ones who don't acknowledge that Iraq has been embroiled in a
civil war for a long time are the Fred Stone types.
Yes but if the government itself breaks down and there's a fight for power
between two governmental factions... well, that's the classic definition
and even O'Really would have to concede the point...
He still wouldn't.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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| User: "MarkA" |
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14 Dec 2006 05:05:11 PM |
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On Thu, 14 Dec 2006 15:48:01 -0500, Al Klein wrote:
On Thu, 14 Dec 2006 10:00:38 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo>
wrote:
Now, that could become a conflict *nobody could avoid calling "civil
war."
The only ones who don't acknowledge that Iraq has been embroiled in a
civil war for a long time are the Fred Stone types.
A fair number of Fred Stone types seem to be employed by the White House.
--
MarkA
(still caught in the maze of twisty little passages, all different)
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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14 Dec 2006 06:53:02 PM |
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On Thu, 14 Dec 2006 23:05:11 +0000, MarkA wrote:
On Thu, 14 Dec 2006 15:48:01 -0500, Al Klein wrote:
On Thu, 14 Dec 2006 10:00:38 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo>
wrote:
Now, that could become a conflict *nobody could avoid calling "civil
war."
The only ones who don't acknowledge that Iraq has been embroiled in a
civil war for a long time are the Fred Stone types.
A fair number of Fred Stone types seem to be employed by the White House.
<smacks forehead>
So *that's what Phred has been angling for all this time...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
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"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace
alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing
it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary."
-H. L. Mencken
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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14 Dec 2006 06:56:32 PM |
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On Thu, 14 Dec 2006 23:05:11 GMT, MarkA <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote:
On Thu, 14 Dec 2006 15:48:01 -0500, Al Klein wrote:
On Thu, 14 Dec 2006 10:00:38 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo>
wrote:
Now, that could become a conflict *nobody could avoid calling "civil
war."
The only ones who don't acknowledge that Iraq has been embroiled in a
civil war for a long time are the Fred Stone types.
A fair number of Fred Stone types seem to be employed by the White House.
Would the current administration hire any other type?
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
"Speculating on the possible reaction to evidence is no excuse for
failing to produce the evidence."
- Wayne M. Delia+
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12 Dec 2006 09:20:03 PM |
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On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 02:52:50 GMT, MarkA <toor@nowhere.com> in news
message <pan.2006.12.13.02.52.49.195744@nowhere.com> wrote:
WASHINGTON (Reuters) -
President George W. Bush will delay announcing a new Iraq strategy until
the new year, the White House said on Tuesday amid polls showing Americans
are more pessimistic about the war and want a change.
Wow. Things must be *really bad* if GW is going to re-think his strategy
(such as it is).
Yes, President Bush is no longer staying the course. He is now
completing the mission.
Überwench #658 Now a *real* atheist!
Dame Liz the Undaunted Ath.D BAAWA
Charter Member of SMASH
and Queen of the known universe
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23 Dec 2006 02:33:53 PM |
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On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 22:20:03 -0500, Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote in
alt.atheism
On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 02:52:50 GMT, MarkA <toor@nowhere.com> in news
message <pan.2006.12.13.02.52.49.195744@nowhere.com> wrote:
WASHINGTON (Reuters) -
President George W. Bush will delay announcing a new Iraq strategy until
the new year, the White House said on Tuesday amid polls showing Americans
are more pessimistic about the war and want a change.
Wow. Things must be *really bad* if GW is going to re-think his strategy
(such as it is).
Yes, President Bush is no longer staying the course. He is now
completing the mission.
BINGO!
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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23 Dec 2006 11:36:33 PM |
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On Sat, 23 Dec 2006 12:33:53 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 22:20:03 -0500, Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote in
alt.atheism
On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 02:52:50 GMT, MarkA <toor@nowhere.com> in news
message <pan.2006.12.13.02.52.49.195744@nowhere.com> wrote:
WASHINGTON (Reuters) -
President George W. Bush will delay announcing a new Iraq strategy until
the new year, the White House said on Tuesday amid polls showing Americans
are more pessimistic about the war and want a change.
Wow. Things must be *really bad* if GW is going to re-think his strategy
(such as it is).
Yes, President Bush is no longer staying the course. He is now
completing the mission.
BINGO!
Of course it'll take many (for extremely large values of 'many')
decades to accomplish this.
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| User: "stoney" |
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24 Dec 2006 10:18:10 PM |
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On Sun, 24 Dec 2006 00:36:33 -0500, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote
in alt.atheism
On Sat, 23 Dec 2006 12:33:53 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 22:20:03 -0500, Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote in
alt.atheism
On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 02:52:50 GMT, MarkA <toor@nowhere.com> in news
message <pan.2006.12.13.02.52.49.195744@nowhere.com> wrote:
WASHINGTON (Reuters) -
President George W. Bush will delay announcing a new Iraq strategy until
the new year, the White House said on Tuesday amid polls showing Americans
are more pessimistic about the war and want a change.
Wow. Things must be *really bad* if GW is going to re-think his strategy
(such as it is).
Yes, President Bush is no longer staying the course. He is now
completing the mission.
BINGO!
Of course it'll take many (for extremely large values of 'many')
decades to accomplish this.
/cue neverending story
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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23 Dec 2006 02:32:59 PM |
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On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 02:52:50 GMT, MarkA <toor@nowhere.com> wrote in
alt.atheism
WASHINGTON (Reuters) -
President George W. Bush will delay announcing a new Iraq strategy until
the new year, the White House said on Tuesday amid polls showing Americans
are more pessimistic about the war and want a change.
Wow. Things must be *really bad* if GW is going to re-think his strategy
(such as it is).
He'll say the exact same rubbish as always and claim it is a radical
course change.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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12 Dec 2006 09:11:56 PM |
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On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 02:52:50 GMT, MarkA <toor@nowhere.com> wrote the
following in alt.atheism:
WASHINGTON (Reuters) -
President George W. Bush will delay announcing a new Iraq strategy until
the new year, the White House said on Tuesday amid polls showing Americans
are more pessimistic about the war and want a change.
Wow. Things must be *really bad* if GW is going to re-think his strategy
(such as it is).
That ought to take him 5 minutes or less.
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13 Dec 2006 12:11:39 PM |
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On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 02:52:50 GMT, MarkA <toor@nowhere.com> wrote:
WASHINGTON (Reuters) -
President George W. Bush will delay announcing a new Iraq strategy until
the new year, the White House said on Tuesday amid polls showing Americans
are more pessimistic about the war and want a change.
Wow. Things must be *really bad* if GW is going to re-think his strategy
(such as it is).
The strategy most likely being, "how can we best make the Democrats
look bad?"
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
"Christians have an obligation, a mandate, a commission, a holy
responsibility to reclaim the land for Jesus Christ - to have dominion
in the civil structures, just as in every other aspect of life and
godliness. But it is dominion that we are after. Not just a voice. It
is dominion we are after. Not just influence. It is dominion we are
after. Not just equal time. It is dominion we are after. World
conquest. That's what Christ has commissioned us to accomplish. We must
win the world with the power of the Gospel. And we must never settle
for anything less."
- Republican political theorist George Grant
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