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"Oberon Rex" |
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18 Jul 2004 02:00:38 PM |
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Bush/Kerry? |
http://www.scaryjohnkerry.com/taxes.htm
Informative video about your tax dollars.
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18 Jul 2004 05:15:36 PM |
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"Oberon Rex" <King@faerie.land> wrote in message news:<qNzKc.6407$mL5.1141@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>...
http://www.scaryjohnkerry.com/taxes.htm
Informative video about your tax dollars.
The video took too long to dl, but I'm sure Kerry's plan for tax
dollars would bring more benefit than shooting $500,000,000,000 to
Mars.
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| User: "ROCK" |
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18 Jul 2004 06:27:08 PM |
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It only took a few seconds to download for me. Well done flash movie too.
<snert_master@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"Oberon Rex" <King@faerie.land> wrote in message
news:<qNzKc.6407$mL5.1141@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>...
http://www.scaryjohnkerry.com/taxes.htm
Informative video about your tax dollars.
The video took too long to dl, but I'm sure Kerry's plan for tax
dollars would bring more benefit than shooting $500,000,000,000 to
Mars.
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| User: "Abby" |
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| Title: Re: Bush/Kerry? |
18 Jul 2004 09:37:53 PM |
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I would rather vote for a man who is on his face to God every morning over
someone who advocates killing innocent babies.
Abbs
"Oberon Rex" <King@faerie.land> wrote in message
news:qNzKc.6407$mL5.1141@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
http://www.scaryjohnkerry.com/taxes.htm
Informative video about your tax dollars.
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| User: "poly" |
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19 Jul 2004 01:09:03 AM |
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"Abby" <abbs@cleveland.edu.org> wrote in
news:coadnSUCw55hrmbdRVn-hA@bright.net:
I would rather vote for a man who is on his face to God every morning
over someone who advocates killing innocent babies.
Abbs
Did not the Pharisees and the Sadducees prayed to God too?
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| User: "Eris" |
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19 Jul 2004 04:59:15 PM |
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On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 22:37:53 -0400, "Abby" <abbs@cleveland.edu.org>
wrote:
I would rather vote for a man who is on his face to God every morning over
someone who advocates killing innocent babies.
Abbs
"Oberon Rex" <King@faerie.land> wrote in message
news:qNzKc.6407$mL5.1141@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
http://www.scaryjohnkerry.com/taxes.htm
Informative video about your tax dollars.
You would prefer an alcoholic?
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| User: "Oberon" |
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19 Jul 2004 07:11:56 PM |
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"Eris" <vithant01@comcast.net> wrote in message
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On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 22:37:53 -0400, "Abby" <abbs@cleveland.edu.org>
wrote:
I would rather vote for a man who is on his face to God every morning
over
someone who advocates killing innocent babies.
Abbs
"Oberon Rex" <King@faerie.land> wrote in message
news:qNzKc.6407$mL5.1141@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
http://www.scaryjohnkerry.com/taxes.htm
Informative video about your tax dollars.
You would prefer an alcoholic?
Let's make that an "ex-problem drinker."
Only Jesus was perfect; the rest of us suck ditchwater.
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| User: "CB" |
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19 Jul 2004 07:00:59 PM |
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On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 17:59:15 -0400, Eris <vithant01@comcast.net> wrote:
On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 22:37:53 -0400, "Abby" <abbs@cleveland.edu.org>
wrote:
I would rather vote for a man who is on his face to God every morning over
someone who advocates killing innocent babies.
Abbs
"Oberon Rex" <King@faerie.land> wrote in message
news:qNzKc.6407$mL5.1141@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
http://www.scaryjohnkerry.com/taxes.htm
Informative video about your tax dollars.
You would prefer an alcoholic?
You mean Like Kennedy?
--
Proverbs 30:5 Every word of God is tried: He is a shield unto them
that take refuge in him.
6 Add thou not unto his words, Lest he reprove thee,
and thou be found a liar.
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| User: "raven1" |
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18 Jul 2004 10:47:20 PM |
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On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 22:37:53 -0400, "Abby" <abbs@cleveland.edu.org>
wrote:
I would rather vote for a man who is on his face to God every morning over
someone who advocates killing innocent babies.
So how do you feel about Bush, who does both?
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| User: "CB" |
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19 Jul 2004 10:07:06 AM |
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On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 03:47:20 GMT, raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote:
On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 22:37:53 -0400, "Abby" <abbs@cleveland.edu.org>
wrote:
I would rather vote for a man who is on his face to God every morning over
someone who advocates killing innocent babies.
So how do you feel about Bush, who does both?
Killing babies. You mean like in partial birth abortion that was OK'd by your
hero Slick Willy?
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Proverbs 30:5 Every word of God is tried: He is a shield unto them
that take refuge in him.
6 Add thou not unto his words, Lest he reprove thee,
and thou be found a liar.
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| User: "Hagar" |
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19 Jul 2004 11:02:20 AM |
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"CB" <country2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 03:47:20 GMT, raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com>
wrote:
On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 22:37:53 -0400, "Abby" <abbs@cleveland.edu.org>
wrote:
I would rather vote for a man who is on his face to God every morning
over
someone who advocates killing innocent babies.
So how do you feel about Bush, who does both?
Killing babies. You mean like in partial birth abortion that was OK'd by
your
hero Slick Willy?
Is that the same one who was a draft-dodger ?
who didn't know what "is" is ?
who smoked pot, but never inhaled ?
who equates a BJ with a handshake, not sex ?
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| User: "Oberon" |
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19 Jul 2004 12:03:01 PM |
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"Hagar" <hagen@sahm.name> wrote in message
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"CB" <country2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 03:47:20 GMT, raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com>
wrote:
On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 22:37:53 -0400, "Abby" <abbs@cleveland.edu.org>
wrote:
I would rather vote for a man who is on his face to God every morning
over
someone who advocates killing innocent babies.
So how do you feel about Bush, who does both?
Killing babies. You mean like in partial birth abortion that was OK'd by
your
hero Slick Willy?
Is that the same one who was a draft-dodger ?
who didn't know what "is" is ?
who smoked pot, but never inhaled ?
who equates a BJ with a handshake, not sex ?
Yes. Apparently, his wife concurs....
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| User: "Abby" |
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19 Jul 2004 06:29:55 PM |
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"Hagar" <hagen@sahm.name> wrote in message
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"CB" <country2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 03:47:20 GMT, raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com>
wrote:
On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 22:37:53 -0400, "Abby" <abbs@cleveland.edu.org>
wrote:
I would rather vote for a man who is on his face to God every morning
over
someone who advocates killing innocent babies.
So how do you feel about Bush, who does both?
Killing babies. You mean like in partial birth abortion that was OK'd by
your
hero Slick Willy?
Is that the same one who was a draft-dodger ?
who didn't know what "is" is ?
who smoked pot, but never inhaled ?
who equates a BJ with a handshake, not sex ?
YUP, THAT WOULD BE SLICK WILLIE ALRIGHT.
Abbs
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| User: "raven1" |
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19 Jul 2004 03:32:12 PM |
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On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 16:02:20 GMT, "Hagar" <hagen@sahm.name> wrote:
"CB" <country2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 03:47:20 GMT, raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com>
wrote:
On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 22:37:53 -0400, "Abby" <abbs@cleveland.edu.org>
wrote:
I would rather vote for a man who is on his face to God every morning
over
someone who advocates killing innocent babies.
So how do you feel about Bush, who does both?
Killing babies. You mean like in partial birth abortion that was OK'd by
your
hero Slick Willy?
Is that the same one who was a draft-dodger ?
As opposed to going AWOL?
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| User: "Hagar" |
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19 Jul 2004 04:42:47 PM |
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"raven1" <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in message
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On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 16:02:20 GMT, "Hagar" <hagen@sahm.name> >
As opposed to going AWOL?
When you pukes can prove that Bush was ever charged with being AWOL, then
you can open your collective ignorant yaps. But the point is, in order to
go AWOL, you first have to be in the military, which Slick Willie artfully
dodged. Ah, you'd rather have someone who collects medals for having a
hangnail and then fakes tossing them over a fence in righteous protest. I
get it now ... you're a Democrat.
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| User: "Oberon" |
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19 Jul 2004 07:05:56 PM |
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"Hagar" <hagen@sahm.name> wrote in message
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"raven1" <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in message
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On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 16:02:20 GMT, "Hagar" <hagen@sahm.name> >
As opposed to going AWOL?
When you pukes can prove that Bush was ever charged with being AWOL, then
you can open your collective ignorant yaps. But the point is, in order to
go AWOL, you first have to be in the military, which Slick Willie artfully
dodged. Ah, you'd rather have someone who collects medals for having a
hangnail and then fakes tossing them over a fence in righteous protest. I
get it now ... you're a Democrat.
Well, duh.
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| User: "raven1" |
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19 Jul 2004 04:54:00 PM |
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On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 21:42:47 GMT, "Hagar" <hagen@sahm.name> wrote:
"raven1" <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in message
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On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 16:02:20 GMT, "Hagar" <hagen@sahm.name> >
As opposed to going AWOL?
When you pukes can prove that Bush was ever charged with being AWOL, then
you can open your collective ignorant yaps.
There's absolutely no evidence that Bush served out his term in the
National Guard. Not *one* person he purportedly served with or under
recalls him being there, despite a large reward offered by Garry
Trudeau to anyone who will come forth and substantiate Bush's claims
to have done so, and his records have conveniently, albeit
predictably, gone missing.
But the point is, in order to
go AWOL, you first have to be in the military, which Slick Willie artfully
dodged.
I see, you mean like ***** Cheney.
Ah, you'd rather have someone who collects medals for having a
hangnail
I don't know anyone who did so, particularly anyone who also won both
a Silver and Bronze Star, neither of which are given out lightly.
You're demeaning all veterans with such nonsensical charges.
and then fakes tossing them over a fence in righteous protest.
See, this is the difference between Democrats and Republicans:
Democrats can change their minds, because they're open-minded, whereas
Republicans already *know* they're right, so no new information can
penetrate their concrete skulls. Of course, you can accuse me of
advancing a simplistic strawman argument, which is true, but as you're
not bothering to present an actual reasoned argument, you don't
deserve one in response.
I
get it now ... you're a Democrat.
I'd prefer to say that I actually use my brain. As for you, let me
guess... you're a Republican!
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| User: "Reuben Hick" |
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19 Jul 2004 05:36:29 PM |
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"raven1" <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in message
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On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 21:42:47 GMT, "Hagar" <hagen@sahm.name> wrote:
I'd prefer to say that I actually use my brain...
....To formulate lies and spew hate.
As opposed to going AWOL?
When you pukes can prove that Bush was ever charged with being AWOL...
There's absolutely no evidence that Bush served out his term in the
National Guard.
What was his term in the national guard? Did you know that being AWOL is
cause to be dishonorably discharged? Does 'W' have a dishonorable
discharge? (Answer: No).
Was 'W' ever charged by the military for being AWOL? (No)
Are recruits allowed to wander off during boot-camp? (No)
Are those in training for flying jets allowed to disappear for weeks on end?
(No)
Lets review:
May 1968, Enter boot camp for six weeks training at Lackland AFB (full-time
job)
53 weeks of flight training at Moody AFB (full-time job)
21 weeks of fighter interceptor training at Ellington AFB (full-time job)
Counting other, shorter postings in between - 'W' served two years of active
duty.
Then there is maintenance of one's certification to fly the F-102 fighter.
Bob Harmon, a fellow pilot from '71-'72 commented: "You cannot maintain
currency by doing just one drill a month. He was flying once or twice a
week from May '71 to May '72'"
The problem with you 'W' haters is that you mindlessly parrot Terry
McAuliffe bogus over-the-top charges about being "AWOL" without considering
how stupid you really sound. The period in question was 'W's ~fifth~ year
of duty when 'W' went to Alabama for one year. You spewers of hate always
white-out the four years of active duty that 'W' did serve. You also seem
to completely discount the military's records of when 'W' was on duty.
That one year in question shows that 'W' actually did fulfill his annual
requirements of accumulating 50 points. They were given 15 points just for
being in the Guard and were awarded points based on the days they reported
for duty. For the year May 1972 to May 1973, 'W' earned 56 points (253
first year, 340 second, 137 third, 112 fourth).
So when you liars continue your ignorant campaign of hate it is because you
DONT use your brain, you rely on bile and venom.
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| User: "Frank M" |
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20 Jul 2004 02:19:25 PM |
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Reuben Hick" <reubenhick@hotmail.com>
Newsgroups:
alt.religion.christian.baptist,alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic,alt.rel
igion.christian.presbyterian,alt.christnet.christianlife,alt.atheism
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 3:36 PM
Subject: Re: Bush/Kerry?
"raven1" <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in message
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On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 21:42:47 GMT, "Hagar" <hagen@sahm.name> wrote:
I'd prefer to say that I actually use my brain...
...To formulate lies and spew hate.
As opposed to going AWOL?
When you pukes can prove that Bush was ever charged with being AWOL...
There's absolutely no evidence that Bush served out his term in the
National Guard.
What was his term in the national guard? Did you know that being AWOL is
cause to be dishonorably discharged? Does 'W' have a dishonorable
discharge? (Answer: No).
Was 'W' ever charged by the military for being AWOL? (No)
Are recruits allowed to wander off during boot-camp? (No)
Are those in training for flying jets allowed to disappear for weeks on
end?
(No)
Lets review:
May 1968, Enter boot camp for six weeks training at Lackland AFB
(full-time
job)
53 weeks of flight training at Moody AFB (full-time job)
21 weeks of fighter interceptor training at Ellington AFB (full-time job)
Counting other, shorter postings in between - 'W' served two years of
active
duty.
Then there is maintenance of one's certification to fly the F-102 fighter.
Bob Harmon, a fellow pilot from '71-'72 commented: "You cannot maintain
currency by doing just one drill a month. He was flying once or twice a
week from May '71 to May '72'"
The problem with you 'W' haters is that you mindlessly parrot Terry
McAuliffe bogus over-the-top charges about being "AWOL" without
considering
how stupid you really sound. The period in question was 'W's ~fifth~
year
of duty when 'W' went to Alabama for one year. You spewers of hate
always
white-out the four years of active duty that 'W' did serve. You also
seem
to completely discount the military's records of when 'W' was on duty.
That one year in question shows that 'W' actually did fulfill his annual
requirements of accumulating 50 points. They were given 15 points just
for
being in the Guard and were awarded points based on the days they reported
for duty. For the year May 1972 to May 1973, 'W' earned 56 points (253
first year, 340 second, 137 third, 112 fourth).
So when you liars continue your ignorant campaign of hate it is because
you
DONT use your brain, you rely on bile and venom.
You forgot to add that in the mid seventies the F-102 was obsolete and
training for currency in that plane was not a high priority. Also to train
'W' for a more current aircraft would have been a waste of the taxpayers
money considering he was a 'short timer.'
What is extremely curious is that that those who seem most concerned about
Bush's military record are the same ones who eagerly voted for a confirmed
draft dodger in 92 and 96. A man who wrote that he "loathed the military."
Now they are eagerly waiting to vote for a self confessed war criminal.
Kerry had said, during an April 18, 1971, appearance on Meet the Press:
"There are all kinds of atrocities and I would have to say that, yes, yes, I
committed the same kind of atrocities as thousands of other soldiers have
committed in that I took part in shootings in free-fire zones. I conducted
harassment and interdiction fire. I used 50-caliber machine guns which we
were granted and ordered to use, which were our only weapon against people.
I took part in search-and-destroy missions, in the burning of villages. All
of this is contrary to the laws of warfare. All of this is contrary to the
Geneva Conventions and all of this ordered as a matter of written
established policy by the government of the United States from the top
down."
Kerry admits to taking part, but under orders. After WW2 the war crimes
trials did not accept 'I was ordered to' as a defense, should we? I don't
want a self confessed war criminal as the commander and chief of our armed
forces.
Frank M
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| User: "Reuben Hick" |
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20 Jul 2004 03:25:25 PM |
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"Frank M" <flmoreaunospam@verizon.net> wrote in message
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You forgot to add that in the mid seventies the F-102 was obsolete and
training for currency in that plane was not a high priority. Also to
train
'W' for a more current aircraft would have been a waste of the taxpayers
money considering he was a 'short timer.'
The F-102 was replaced by the Phantom and the F-102 was delivered over to
the Air National Guard in the mid to late sixties, so 'W' was flying the
interceptor the National Guard had at their disposal. Even so, the Delta
Dagger wasn't dropped until several years after 'W' left the guard.
From other interviews with others who flew with him, they would take turns
playing "bad guy" and "good guy" in practice dogfights. The comments made
by his commanding officers and trainers was that 'W' was exceptional. Now I
don't know if time and position had any influence on opinions offered today,
but the performance records written at that time reflected better than
average scores.
Now they are eagerly waiting to vote for a self confessed war criminal...
All that may be true. I don't care if Kerry was a helo door gunner and
strafed women and children just for kicks, it is where he stands today (who
knows?). The two sides seem to be making overtures towards two totally
different audiences. Those who vote the GOP are doing so on perceived
character, national security and taxes. Those who vote for the other team
just hate the president and the US's traditional culture. The former is
about tangible issues, the other is emotional and personal.
BTW, I am one who lives in a slam-dunk state where 'W' is believed to have
an easy win. I don't have to hold my nose when voting for the office of
POTUS like some have to do.
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| User: "Frank M" |
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20 Jul 2004 07:10:30 PM |
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"Reuben Hick" <reubenhick@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Frank M" <flmoreaunospam@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:1feLc.20413$gt1.7144@nwrddc02.gnilink.net...
You forgot to add that in the mid seventies the F-102 was obsolete and
training for currency in that plane was not a high priority. Also to
train
'W' for a more current aircraft would have been a waste of the taxpayers
money considering he was a 'short timer.'
The F-102 was replaced by the Phantom and the F-102 was delivered over to
the Air National Guard in the mid to late sixties, so 'W' was flying the
interceptor the National Guard had at their disposal. Even so, the Delta
Dagger wasn't dropped until several years after 'W' left the guard.
From other interviews with others who flew with him, they would take turns
playing "bad guy" and "good guy" in practice dogfights. The comments made
by his commanding officers and trainers was that 'W' was exceptional. Now
I
don't know if time and position had any influence on opinions offered
today,
but the performance records written at that time reflected better than
average scores.
Now they are eagerly waiting to vote for a self confessed war
criminal...
All that may be true. I don't care if Kerry was a helo door gunner and
strafed women and children just for kicks, it is where he stands today
(who
knows?). The two sides seem to be making overtures towards two totally
different audiences. Those who vote the GOP are doing so on perceived
character, national security and taxes. Those who vote for the other team
just hate the president and the US's traditional culture. The former is
about tangible issues, the other is emotional and personal.
Kerry was in the Navy and commanded a swift boat (built in my home twn) and
was reported to have killed a wounded enemy combatant. I believe he served
three months in theater and won three purple hearts, none of which caused
him to lose any duty time. He later turned those three PHs into a get out
of the service early ticket.
BTW, I am one who lives in a slam-dunk state where 'W' is believed to have
an easy win. I don't have to hold my nose when voting for the office of
POTUS like some have to do.
I don't agree with much of what GWB has done or some of the directions he is
going, but I won't be holding my nose when I vote for his. Mine is a west
coast liberal state thats starts with 'W'
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| User: "CB" |
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20 Jul 2004 08:44:53 PM |
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On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 00:10:30 GMT, "Frank M" <flmoreaunospam@verizon.net> wrote:
"Reuben Hick" <reubenhick@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:VcfLc.15318$wh1.12359@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com...
"Frank M" <flmoreaunospam@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:1feLc.20413$gt1.7144@nwrddc02.gnilink.net...
You forgot to add that in the mid seventies the F-102 was obsolete and
training for currency in that plane was not a high priority. Also to
train
'W' for a more current aircraft would have been a waste of the taxpayers
money considering he was a 'short timer.'
The F-102 was replaced by the Phantom and the F-102 was delivered over to
the Air National Guard in the mid to late sixties, so 'W' was flying the
interceptor the National Guard had at their disposal. Even so, the Delta
Dagger wasn't dropped until several years after 'W' left the guard.
From other interviews with others who flew with him, they would take turns
playing "bad guy" and "good guy" in practice dogfights. The comments made
by his commanding officers and trainers was that 'W' was exceptional. Now
I
don't know if time and position had any influence on opinions offered
today,
but the performance records written at that time reflected better than
average scores.
Now they are eagerly waiting to vote for a self confessed war
criminal...
All that may be true. I don't care if Kerry was a helo door gunner and
strafed women and children just for kicks, it is where he stands today
(who
knows?). The two sides seem to be making overtures towards two totally
different audiences. Those who vote the GOP are doing so on perceived
character, national security and taxes. Those who vote for the other team
just hate the president and the US's traditional culture. The former is
about tangible issues, the other is emotional and personal.
Kerry was in the Navy and commanded a swift boat (built in my home twn) and
was reported to have killed a wounded enemy combatant. I believe he served
three months in theater and won three purple hearts, none of which caused
him to lose any duty time. He later turned those three PHs into a get out
of the service early ticket.
BTW, I am one who lives in a slam-dunk state where 'W' is believed to have
an easy win. I don't have to hold my nose when voting for the office of
POTUS like some have to do.
I don't agree with much of what GWB has done or some of the directions he is
going, but I won't be holding my nose when I vote for his. Mine is a west
coast liberal state thats starts with 'W'
Bush /Cheney '04
Ditka/(insert name here) '08
Yes, I want to see Mike Ditka run for president.
--
Proverbs 30:5 Every word of God is tried: He is a shield unto them
that take refuge in him.
6 Add thou not unto his words, Lest he reprove thee,
and thou be found a liar.
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| User: "Oberon" |
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20 Jul 2004 09:43:42 PM |
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"CB" <country2000@hotmail.com> wrote
Bush /Cheney '04
Ditka/(insert name here) '08
Yes, I want to see Mike Ditka run for president.
I would like to see Ann Coulter in the White House. The woman has a mind
like a steel trap. There are no comparable Democratic women.
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| User: "Jez" |
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22 Jul 2004 04:05:35 PM |
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Oberon wrote:
"CB" <country2000@hotmail.com> wrote
Bush /Cheney '04
Ditka/(insert name here) '08
Yes, I want to see Mike Ditka run for president.
I would like to see Ann Coulter in the White House. The woman has a mind
like a steel trap.
No, she has a steel trap...not a mind.
There are no comparable Democratic women.
Is Coulter a Woman ?
--
Jez
"The condition of alienation, of being asleep, of being unconscious,
of being out of one's mind, is the condition of the normal man. Society
highly values its normal man.It educates children to lose themselves
and to become absurd,and thus to be normal. Normal men have killed
perhaps 100,000,000 of their fellow normal men in the last fifty years."
R.D. Laing
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| User: "Paul Duca" |
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28 Jul 2004 10:48:30 PM |
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Oberon wrote:
"CB" <country2000@hotmail.com> wrote
Bush /Cheney '04
Ditka/(insert name here) '08
Yes, I want to see Mike Ditka run for president.
I would like to see Ann Coulter in the White House. The woman has a mind
like a steel trap.
Forget it...unlike book deals and television contracts, she can't
become President by sleeping with the proper men.
Paul
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| User: "Cindy" |
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29 Jul 2004 01:51:43 PM |
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"Paul Duca" <tomservo@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:41087396.A532816C@comcast.net...
Oberon wrote:
"CB" <country2000@hotmail.com> wrote
Bush /Cheney '04
Ditka/(insert name here) '08
Yes, I want to see Mike Ditka run for president.
I would like to see Ann Coulter in the White House. The woman has a
mind
like a steel trap.
Forget it...unlike book deals and television contracts, she can't
become President by sleeping with the proper men.
Yeah, that "steel trap" is between her legs, she is a real ball buster!
But Elaine is still trying to get laid! <G>
Cindy
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| User: "CB" |
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20 Jul 2004 11:56:09 PM |
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On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 02:43:42 GMT, "Oberon" <ha@ha.ha> wrote:
"CB" <country2000@hotmail.com> wrote
Bush /Cheney '04
Ditka/(insert name here) '08
Yes, I want to see Mike Ditka run for president.
I would like to see Ann Coulter in the White House. The woman has a mind
like a steel trap. There are no comparable Democratic women.
I wonder what an Ann Coulter/Laura Ingraham ticket would be like.
I like them both :)
--
Proverbs 30:5 Every word of God is tried: He is a shield unto them
that take refuge in him.
6 Add thou not unto his words, Lest he reprove thee,
and thou be found a liar.
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| User: "Reuben Hick" |
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21 Jul 2004 08:18:53 AM |
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"CB" <country2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:jotrf0pviltku2fqr38q07m4dnbrnsr5om@4ax.com...
On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 02:43:42 GMT, "Oberon" <ha@ha.ha> wrote:
"CB" <country2000@hotmail.com> wrote
Bush /Cheney '04
Ditka/(insert name here) '08
Yes, I want to see Mike Ditka run for president.
I would like to see Ann Coulter in the White House. The woman has a
mind
like a steel trap. There are no comparable Democratic women.
I wonder what an Ann Coulter/Laura Ingraham ticket would be like.
I like them both :)
What do you think that they would do for the office? AC and those like her
are polarizing people, not ideal when trying to set national agendas.
Don't you see that is how the Fifth Column is working here in the US? 'W'
has implemented to some measure most of that which the socialists have
wanted to the shock and horror of his base, yet the Seditionists still want
his head on a platter. Why? Because they know that if a figurehead can be
discredited, lampooned or otherwise marginalized then that will stymie any
efforts of that person's party to implement effective policy or at least
lengthen the time before the Seditionists can grab power.
This is why the GOP has foolishly pursued this suicidal scheme to attract
the mythological "moderates" by enacting plank after plank of the Communist
Manifesto. The Communist Manifesto and the Humanist Manifesto are very
good documents that accurately portray man's myopic vision of Nirvana. They
are open reflections of man's corrupted spirit, and whether one has ever
seen the documents or not, the human heart is strangely attracted to the
tenets - and that is why the Demoncats and the GOP gravitate towards
implementing such ideas.
Now would AC or any other true conservative fall into that line? Maybe not
initially, but a president cannot do everything and must delegate to
subordinates or end up like Jimmy Carter who wanted to micromanage
everything. And that is where you should look when pulling the lever in
November. Look deep into the cabinet and see what idiots, malcontents and
seditionists lurk in there. Thinking people vote for the party, not the
figurehead.
The Demoncats have this natural tendency to worship dictators and kings.
When you hear them speak about anything, they talk of the president as a
Casear, Pharoah, King, Emperor or god. If a kid gets failing grades they
immediately drop all of the blame on the president. If the economy for a
particular sector is doing well, the president gets all of the credit. In
both cases the leader in question may have had absolutely nothing to do with
it, and in fact their policies may have been directed to do just the
opposite of what they are receiving attribution - but that doesn't matter.
To the rank and file Demoncats there are two different governments that can
exist:
(1) There are two leaders: a) The current President who receives all blame
for all things b) a Judiciary that dicates laws by fiat.
(2) There is one leader: A messiah who is president, all other branches of
governement merely exist to serve the dictates of their benevolent master.
We are presently operating in the former, and the Demoncats want to return
to the latter.
And that is what is scary. If you were to put an Ann Coulter type up as
your party's nominee, they would think mode (2): "Oh no, they want to
install Satan as our Lord and Master", and if actually elected would
immmediately kick into mode (1) "Our @#$%@*& Hitler like president won't let
us do _____ so we need to subvert the existing laws through a renegade
judge."
The whole idea of an independant Executive, Legislative and Judicial branch
of government is seen as an incumbrance in the pursuit of their dreams to
create Saddam's Iraq here on this shore- from their talk you would think
that they want to open up torture chambers (for Christians) and rape rooms
(for each other), but I am convinced that the goal is marginalize all of
their ideological enemies as every other socialist/marxist government has
pursued. (Don't think a hard-left US would create a Stalinist gulag?)
So what does this mean? Well normal people greatly outnumber these
extremists and so it doesn't help to put polarizing people in the lime light
as your party's lead, because one thing the Libs do real well is lie and
project their own sins, phobias, weaknesses and personal failures on to
their political enemies, so a few weeks into any campaign and you wouldn't
even recognize your presidential nominee.
Look at 'W', fairly virtuous guy, yet if you watch the media and listen to
the haterisms constantly hammering the public from the Left you would think
that 'W' is the avatar of Satan, or at least the love child of Caligula and
Jezebel.. It is because they are projecting all of their vices, ill
thoughts and perversion on him. It is because they are thinking "Kill the
king, install our own, pursue all fleshly lusts"
I think the GOP is doomed in '08, we don't have a decent farm program to
bring up potential leaders. Instead we keep finding these losers and
neo-cons who don't represent the ideas of anyone I know. This is a good
year to see if the issue of Hate will be one that wins the White House. If
it does, write this Constitutional Republic off for it will be evidence that
we have truly adopted the values and ethics of a third world country.
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| User: "TDP" |
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21 Jul 2004 11:36:18 AM |
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On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 23:56:09 -0500, CB <country2000@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 02:43:42 GMT, "Oberon" <ha@ha.ha> wrote:
"CB" <country2000@hotmail.com> wrote
Bush /Cheney '04
Ditka/(insert name here) '08
Yes, I want to see Mike Ditka run for president.
I would like to see Ann Coulter in the White House. The woman has a mind
like a steel trap. There are no comparable Democratic women.
I wonder what an Ann Coulter/Laura Ingraham ticket would be like.
I like them both :)
That would be awesome!
--
Proverbs 30:5 Every word of God is tried: He is a shield unto them
that take refuge in him.
6 Add thou not unto his words, Lest he reprove thee,
and thou be found a liar.
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| User: "CB" |
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21 Jul 2004 03:41:57 PM |
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On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 16:36:18 GMT, (TDP) wrote:
On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 23:56:09 -0500, CB <country2000@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 02:43:42 GMT, "Oberon" <ha@ha.ha> wrote:
"CB" <country2000@hotmail.com> wrote
Bush /Cheney '04
Ditka/(insert name here) '08
Yes, I want to see Mike Ditka run for president.
I would like to see Ann Coulter in the White House. The woman has a mind
like a steel trap. There are no comparable Democratic women.
I wonder what an Ann Coulter/Laura Ingraham ticket would be like.
I like them both :)
That would be awesome!
It will never happen but it's an interesting thought. :)
--
Proverbs 30:5 Every word of God is tried: He is a shield unto them
that take refuge in him.
6 Add thou not unto his words, Lest he reprove thee,
and thou be found a liar.
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| User: "Enkidu" |
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| Title: Re: Bush/Kerry? |
21 Jul 2004 04:43:55 PM |
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In article <p7ltf01rhoim2f3oaaqrn7i917n4a40hu8@4ax.com>, country2000
@hotmail.com says...
On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 16:36:18 GMT, (TDP) wrote:
On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 23:56:09 -0500, CB <country2000@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 02:43:42 GMT, "Oberon" <ha@ha.ha> wrote:
"CB" <country2000@hotmail.com> wrote
Bush /Cheney '04
Ditka/(insert name here) '08
Yes, I want to see Mike Ditka run for president.
I would like to see Ann Coulter in the White House. The woman has a mind
like a steel trap. There are no comparable Democratic women.
Yeah . . . facts wander in and get mangled.
I wonder what an Ann Coulter/Laura Ingraham ticket would be like.
I like them both :)
That would be awesome!
It will never happen but it's an interesting thought. :)
Leprosy and irreversible brain damage are "interesting", but I wouldn't
want to live through them.
--
"Go forth, and be excellent to each other"
- Bill & Ted
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