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"Fredric L. Rice" |
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09 Nov 2003 01:45:27 PM |
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Bush's fascists visit web site owner |
http://babelogue.citypages.com:8080/ecassel/2003/11/07
Elaine Cassel
City Pages Cover Story by Elaine Cassel <ecassel1@cox.net>
Friday, November 7, 2003
Big Brother To Web Site Owner --WE ARE WATCHING YOU
CRYPTOME is a web site dedicated to investigating and publishing
accounts of government improprieties, particularly as they relate
to secrecy and First Amendment violations. On November 4, FBI
agents visited the website's New York City office and met with
site owner John Young.
Both agents, who are identified on the site and who left their
official cards, said that they had information that Cryptome was
a source of information that could be used to "harm the United
States." Prior investigations by the FBI, the agent admitted,
had not found any evidence of criminal wrongdoing, but the FBI
was fearful that information on the site would end up in the
"wrong" hands. Cryptome was asked to report to the FBI any
"gut feeling" they had that its information would be a "threat"
to the U.S.
One agent said that visits like these are increasingly common as
the government seeks out information on threats to the U.S. The
agents said they would "write up" a report on their visit. The
agents asked that their names not be published, but Cryptome
refused to honor that request. One reason for their request of
anonymity is so that information about them cannot be pulled
from one of many databases available online. (Funny how
government agents don't want to be the source of data mining,
but they certainly want to use it against us.)
Cryptome has a host of documents on its website, most government
documents obtained from various sources. The site says it will
not remove any document without a valid court order and no order
has ever been served on them.
Young is no doubt aware that the FBI has probably already given
his name to NYPD and that they will keep their eye out on him,
pursuant to new regulations in which the feds ask local cops to
help them rein in "suspicious" persons. Lucky for us that Young
is watching the FBI.
=======
http://cryptome.org/fbi-cryptome.htm
4 November 2003
Cryptome received a visit today from FBI Special Agents Todd
Renner and Christopher Kelly from the FBI Counterterrorism
Office in New York, 26 Federal Plaza, telephone (212) 384-1000.
Both agents presented official ID and business cards.
SA Renner said that a person had reported Cryptome as a source
of information that could be used to harm the United States.
He said Cryptome website had been examined and nothing on the
site was illegal but information there might be used for
harmful purposes. He noted that information in the Cryptome
CDs might wind up in the wrong hands.
SA Renner said there is no investigation of Cryptome, that the
purpose of the visit was to ask Cryptome to report to the FBI
any information which Cryptome "had a gut feeling" could be a
threat to the nation.
There was a discussion of the purpose of Cryptome, freedom of
information, the need for more public information on threats
to the nation and what citizens can do to protect themselves,
the need for more public information about how the FBI
functions in the field and the intention of visits like the
one today.
SA Kelly said such visits are increasingly common as the FBI
works to improve the reporting of information about threats
to the US.
Asked what will happen as a result of the visit. SA Renner said
he will write a report of the visit.
Cryptome said it will publish a report of the visit, including
naming the agents. Both agents expressed concern about their
names being published for that might lead to a threat against
them and/or their families -- one saying that due to copious
personal databases any name can be traced.
Cryptome said the reason for publishing names of agents is so
that anyone can verify that a contact has been made, and that
more public information is needed on how FBI agents function
and who they are.
Cryptome noted that on a previous occasion FBI agents had
protested publication of their names by Cryptome.
Cryptome did not agree to report anything to the FBI that is not
available on the website.
---
Yes, George W. Bush is an unelected baby killing fascist dictator.
Also: Scientology's International President (Audio files of this
nutter available at http://www.linkline.com/personal/frice )
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| User: "Fredric L. Rice" |
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| Title: Cryptome website ***** down by Bush fascists? |
11 Nov 2003 08:40:40 PM |
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(Fredric L. Rice) wrote:
http://babelogue.citypages.com:8080/ecassel/2003/11/07
Big Brother To Web Site Owner --WE ARE WATCHING YOU
CRYPTOME is a web site dedicated to investigating and publishing
accounts of government improprieties, particularly as they relate
to secrecy and First Amendment violations.
I see that http://www.cryptome.org/ is answering SYNs but very, very
slowly, but it doesn't seem to have been removed. With the way freedom
of speech is being attacked -- by Scientology criminals and government
thugs -- I wouldn't be surprised if it's been removed and maybe I'm
getting a router cache ACK.
If it's gone, someone with the technology should grab WayBack's copy
so it can be rewebbed out of the United States.
---
Yes, George W. Bush is an unelected baby killing fascist dictator.
Also: Scientology's International President (Audio files of this
nutter available at http://www.linkline.com/personal/frice )
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| User: "Don W. McCollough" |
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| Title: Re: Cryptome website ***** down by Bush fascists? |
12 Nov 2003 05:44:21 PM |
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(Fredric L. Rice) wrote in message news:<vr37c28f19fraa@corp.supernews.com>...
(Fredric L. Rice) wrote:
http://babelogue.citypages.com:8080/ecassel/2003/11/07
Big Brother To Web Site Owner --WE ARE WATCHING YOU
CRYPTOME is a web site dedicated to investigating and publishing
accounts of government improprieties, particularly as they relate
to secrecy and First Amendment violations.
I see that http://www.cryptome.org/ is answering SYNs but very, very
slowly, but it doesn't seem to have been removed. With the way freedom
of speech is being attacked -- by Scientology criminals and government
thugs -- I wouldn't be surprised if it's been removed and maybe I'm
getting a router cache ACK.
If it's gone, someone with the technology should grab WayBack's copy
so it can be rewebbed out of the United States.
---
Yes, George W. Bush is an unelected baby killing fascist dictator.
Also: Scientology's International President (Audio files of this
nutter available at http://www.linkline.com/personal/frice )
Bush and his gang can't even find the time to update thier own website's
http://www.whitehouse.gov/response/disarm.html
aside from bothering to assault cryptome.org
relax
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| User: "Doctor Nope" |
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12 Nov 2003 10:01:36 AM |
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It comes up just fine for me. Maybe you just need a bigger tinfoil hat.
"Fredric L. Rice" <frice@skeptictank.org> wrote in message
news:vr37c28f19fraa@corp.supernews.com...
frice@skeptictank.org (Fredric L. Rice) wrote:
http://babelogue.citypages.com:8080/ecassel/2003/11/07
Big Brother To Web Site Owner --WE ARE WATCHING YOU
CRYPTOME is a web site dedicated to investigating and publishing
accounts of government improprieties, particularly as they relate
to secrecy and First Amendment violations.
I see that http://www.cryptome.org/ is answering SYNs but very, very
slowly, but it doesn't seem to have been removed. With the way freedom
of speech is being attacked -- by Scientology criminals and government
thugs -- I wouldn't be surprised if it's been removed and maybe I'm
getting a router cache ACK.
If it's gone, someone with the technology should grab WayBack's copy
so it can be rewebbed out of the United States.
---
Yes, George W. Bush is an unelected baby killing fascist dictator.
Also: Scientology's International President (Audio files of this
nutter available at http://www.linkline.com/personal/frice )
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| User: "John Baker" |
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12 Nov 2003 01:59:43 PM |
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"Doctor Nope" <doctor_nope@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:APssb.8400$nz.5818@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
It comes up just fine for me. Maybe you just need a bigger tinfoil hat.
Yep. Sorry to have say it, but I think Fred's gone off the deep end.
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| User: "Fredric L. Rice" |
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12 Nov 2003 10:22:47 PM |
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"Doctor Nope" <doctor_nope@hotmail.com> wrote:
It comes up just fine for me. Maybe you just need a bigger tinfoil hat.
Or maybe yer momma's hat is still resting on my bed/ <smile>
No offense. It's _still_ not loading over here.
"Fredric L. Rice" <frice@skeptictank.org> wrote in message
news:vr37c28f19fraa@corp.supernews.com...
frice@skeptictank.org (Fredric L. Rice) wrote:
http://babelogue.citypages.com:8080/ecassel/2003/11/07
Big Brother To Web Site Owner --WE ARE WATCHING YOU
CRYPTOME is a web site dedicated to investigating and publishing
accounts of government improprieties, particularly as they relate
to secrecy and First Amendment violations.
I see that http://www.cryptome.org/ is answering SYNs but very, very
slowly
---
Yes, George W. Bush is an unelected baby killing fascist dictator.
Also: Scientology's International President (Audio files of this
nutter available at http://www.linkline.com/personal/frice )
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| User: "neptune3" |
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| Title: Re: Cryptome website ***** down by Bush fascists? |
12 Nov 2003 05:03:34 PM |
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On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 02:40:40 GMT, (Fredric L.
Rice) wrote:
Yes, George W. Bush is an unelected baby killing fascist dictator.
http://kdka.com/topstories/topstories_story_311151421.html
Ashcroft Vows To Fight Anti-Semitism
Attorney General Speaks At Anti-Defamation League's 90th Anniversary
Celebration
Nov 7, 2003 3:12 pm US/Eastern
NEW YORK (AP) Attorney General John Ashcroft vowed Friday that the
Justice Department would continue its fight against anti-Semitism and
terrorism.
"This administration believes that acts of anti-Semitism must be
confronted, condemned and denounced," Ashcroft said in a keynote
address at the Anti-Defamation League's national meeting.
"As history shows, verbal attacks on the Jewish people are portends of
more savage criminality to come," he added...
Ashcroft also spoke at length about the benefits of the USA Patriot
Act, passed overwhelmingly by Congress after Sept. 11. It greatly
expanded the government's surveillance and detention powers, and the
attorney general said without the legislation, some people indicted
for terrorism-related offenses might not have been detected by
officials.
Ashcroft spoke on the second day of the three-day conference,
celebrating the ADL's 90th anniversary. The ADL was founded in 1913 by
Chicago lawyer Sigmund Livingston, who saw a need for an organization
to protect Jews from anti-Semitic acts.
Abraham Foxman, the ADL's national director, praised Ashcroft and
President Bush for their efforts in fighting anti-Semitism...
2003 The Associated Press.
MMIII, Viacom Internet Services Inc.
www.spearhead-uk.com http://www.natvan.com
http://www.altermedia.info/ www.nsm88.com
http://www.nationalism.org/rnsp/display_ENG.htm
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| User: "Hector Plasmic" |
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12 Nov 2003 01:46:04 PM |
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See a shrink, Fred, your paranoia's getting way out of hand.
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| User: "Nakas" |
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09 Nov 2003 03:06:44 PM |
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Try adding "OT" to your subject line retard.
"Fredric L. Rice" <frice@skeptictank.org> wrote in message
news:vqt6bpndd1bg2a@corp.supernews.com...
http://babelogue.citypages.com:8080/ecassel/2003/11/07
Elaine Cassel
City Pages Cover Story by Elaine Cassel <ecassel1@cox.net>
Friday, November 7, 2003
Big Brother To Web Site Owner --WE ARE WATCHING YOU
CRYPTOME is a web site dedicated to investigating and publishing
accounts of government improprieties, particularly as they relate
to secrecy and First Amendment violations. On November 4, FBI
agents visited the website's New York City office and met with
site owner John Young.
Both agents, who are identified on the site and who left their
official cards, said that they had information that Cryptome was
a source of information that could be used to "harm the United
States." Prior investigations by the FBI, the agent admitted,
had not found any evidence of criminal wrongdoing, but the FBI
was fearful that information on the site would end up in the
"wrong" hands. Cryptome was asked to report to the FBI any
"gut feeling" they had that its information would be a "threat"
to the U.S.
One agent said that visits like these are increasingly common as
the government seeks out information on threats to the U.S. The
agents said they would "write up" a report on their visit. The
agents asked that their names not be published, but Cryptome
refused to honor that request. One reason for their request of
anonymity is so that information about them cannot be pulled
from one of many databases available online. (Funny how
government agents don't want to be the source of data mining,
but they certainly want to use it against us.)
Cryptome has a host of documents on its website, most government
documents obtained from various sources. The site says it will
not remove any document without a valid court order and no order
has ever been served on them.
Young is no doubt aware that the FBI has probably already given
his name to NYPD and that they will keep their eye out on him,
pursuant to new regulations in which the feds ask local cops to
help them rein in "suspicious" persons. Lucky for us that Young
is watching the FBI.
=======
http://cryptome.org/fbi-cryptome.htm
4 November 2003
Cryptome received a visit today from FBI Special Agents Todd
Renner and Christopher Kelly from the FBI Counterterrorism
Office in New York, 26 Federal Plaza, telephone (212) 384-1000.
Both agents presented official ID and business cards.
SA Renner said that a person had reported Cryptome as a source
of information that could be used to harm the United States.
He said Cryptome website had been examined and nothing on the
site was illegal but information there might be used for
harmful purposes. He noted that information in the Cryptome
CDs might wind up in the wrong hands.
SA Renner said there is no investigation of Cryptome, that the
purpose of the visit was to ask Cryptome to report to the FBI
any information which Cryptome "had a gut feeling" could be a
threat to the nation.
There was a discussion of the purpose of Cryptome, freedom of
information, the need for more public information on threats
to the nation and what citizens can do to protect themselves,
the need for more public information about how the FBI
functions in the field and the intention of visits like the
one today.
SA Kelly said such visits are increasingly common as the FBI
works to improve the reporting of information about threats
to the US.
Asked what will happen as a result of the visit. SA Renner said
he will write a report of the visit.
Cryptome said it will publish a report of the visit, including
naming the agents. Both agents expressed concern about their
names being published for that might lead to a threat against
them and/or their families -- one saying that due to copious
personal databases any name can be traced.
Cryptome said the reason for publishing names of agents is so
that anyone can verify that a contact has been made, and that
more public information is needed on how FBI agents function
and who they are.
Cryptome noted that on a previous occasion FBI agents had
protested publication of their names by Cryptome.
Cryptome did not agree to report anything to the FBI that is not
available on the website.
---
Yes, George W. Bush is an unelected baby killing fascist dictator.
Also: Scientology's International President (Audio files of this
nutter available at http://www.linkline.com/personal/frice )
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| User: "Jeff Jones" |
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09 Nov 2003 04:25:19 PM |
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"Nakas" <nakas@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:E%xrb.114367$275.324361@attbi_s53...
Try adding "OT" to your subject line retard.
You don't think the government sending agents to question the owner of a
website simply because it is anti-war (or anti-anything for that matter) is
of interest to atheists, a rather striking minority in this country? I
certainly think it is of interest.
Jeff Jones
Austin, Texas
aa #2044
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| User: "Nakas" |
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09 Nov 2003 11:20:21 PM |
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"Jeff Jones" <jeffj@NOSPAMaustin.rr.com> wrote in message
news:j9zrb.23620$PH6.20498@twister.austin.rr.com...
"Nakas" <nakas@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:E%xrb.114367$275.324361@attbi_s53...
Try adding "OT" to your subject line retard.
You don't think the government sending agents to question the owner of a
website simply because it is anti-war (or anti-anything for that matter)
is
of interest to atheists, a rather striking minority in this country? I
certainly think it is of interest.
It may be of intrest to you, but it's still off topic.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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10 Nov 2003 10:37:04 PM |
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On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 05:20:21 GMT, "Nakas" <nakas@comcast.net> posted
in alt.atheism:
"Jeff Jones" <jeffj@NOSPAMaustin.rr.com> wrote in message
news:j9zrb.23620$PH6.20498@twister.austin.rr.com...
"Nakas" <nakas@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:E%xrb.114367$275.324361@attbi_s53...
Try adding "OT" to your subject line retard.
You don't think the government sending agents to question the owner of a
website simply because it is anti-war (or anti-anything for that matter)
is
of interest to atheists, a rather striking minority in this country? I
certainly think it is of interest.
It may be of intrest to you, but it's still off topic.
How is something of interest to atheists off-topic in a newsgroup the
purpose of which is posts that are of interest to atheists?
--
"I see only with deep regret that God punishes so many of His children for their
numerous stupidities, for which only He Himself can be held responsible; in my opinion,
only His nonexistence could excuse Him."
-A. Einstein (Letter to Edgar Meyer, Jan. 2, 1915)
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
rukbat at optonline dot net
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| User: "Nakas" |
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10 Nov 2003 11:15:44 PM |
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"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
news:bqp0rvohio17tmevko0f3dgg2stgipd0jp@Pern.rk...
On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 05:20:21 GMT, "Nakas" <nakas@comcast.net> posted
in alt.atheism:
"Jeff Jones" <jeffj@NOSPAMaustin.rr.com> wrote in message
news:j9zrb.23620$PH6.20498@twister.austin.rr.com...
"Nakas" <nakas@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:E%xrb.114367$275.324361@attbi_s53...
Try adding "OT" to your subject line retard.
You don't think the government sending agents to question the owner of
a
website simply because it is anti-war (or anti-anything for that
matter)
is
of interest to atheists, a rather striking minority in this country? I
certainly think it is of interest.
It may be of intrest to you, but it's still off topic.
How is something of interest to atheists off-topic in a newsgroup the
purpose of which is posts that are of interest to atheists?
First off, it wasn't only posted to alt.atheism. Second, it's off topic in
an atheism newsgroup because it has nothing whatsoever to do with atheism.
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| User: "socode" |
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11 Nov 2003 02:39:36 AM |
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Nakas wrote:
Second, it's off topic in an atheism newsgroup
because it has nothing whatsoever to do with atheism.
Neither does religion, yet it's discussed here too. If
discussion were restricted to lacking belief in a god or
gods, rapid boredom would ensue.
socode
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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11 Nov 2003 08:26:36 PM |
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On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 05:15:44 GMT, "Nakas" <nakas@comcast.net> posted
in alt.atheism:
First off, it wasn't only posted to alt.atheism. Second, it's off topic in
an atheism newsgroup because it has nothing whatsoever to do with atheism.
Since the purpose of alt.atheism ISN'T solely posts having to do with
atheism, but posts on ANY subject of interest to atheists, I fail to
see the relevance of your second point.
--
"A stupid man's report of what a clever man says is never accurate because he
unconsciously translates what he hears into something he can understand."
-- Bertrand Russell.
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
rukbat at optonline dot net
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| User: "Doc Smartass" |
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11 Nov 2003 02:18:51 AM |
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Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in
news:bqp0rvohio17tmevko0f3dgg2stgipd0jp@Pern.rk:
On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 05:20:21 GMT, "Nakas" <nakas@comcast.net> posted
in alt.atheism:
"Jeff Jones" <jeffj@NOSPAMaustin.rr.com> wrote in message
news:j9zrb.23620$PH6.20498@twister.austin.rr.com...
"Nakas" <nakas@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:E%xrb.114367$275.324361@attbi_s53...
Try adding "OT" to your subject line retard.
You don't think the government sending agents to question the owner
of a website simply because it is anti-war (or anti-anything for
that matter)
is
of interest to atheists, a rather striking minority in this country?
I certainly think it is of interest.
It may be of intrest to you, but it's still off topic.
How is something of interest to atheists off-topic in a newsgroup the
purpose of which is posts that are of interest to atheists?
I'd like to take this opportunity to announce that I've lost 5 pounds after
a week of 40-minute walks. Yes, it's off-topic. Isn't that a damn shame? ;)
--
Dr. Smartass
BAAWA Knight of Heckling -- a.a. #1939
"When you're slapped, you'll take it and like it!" -- Sam Spade
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| User: "Nakas" |
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11 Nov 2003 10:24:56 AM |
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"Doc Smartass" <gekiskivviesdo@astroboyskivviesmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns943017E4F67B7askifyouwantit@216.77.188.2...
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in
news:bqp0rvohio17tmevko0f3dgg2stgipd0jp@Pern.rk:
On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 05:20:21 GMT, "Nakas" <nakas@comcast.net> posted
in alt.atheism:
"Jeff Jones" <jeffj@NOSPAMaustin.rr.com> wrote in message
news:j9zrb.23620$PH6.20498@twister.austin.rr.com...
"Nakas" <nakas@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:E%xrb.114367$275.324361@attbi_s53...
Try adding "OT" to your subject line retard.
You don't think the government sending agents to question the owner
of a website simply because it is anti-war (or anti-anything for
that matter)
is
of interest to atheists, a rather striking minority in this country?
I certainly think it is of interest.
It may be of intrest to you, but it's still off topic.
How is something of interest to atheists off-topic in a newsgroup the
purpose of which is posts that are of interest to atheists?
I'd like to take this opportunity to announce that I've lost 5 pounds
after
a week of 40-minute walks. Yes, it's off-topic. Isn't that a damn shame?
;)
I had a pimple on my ***** this morning... but I popped it. Now I'm going to
go take a *****. I'll let everyone know how it went when i come back.
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11 Nov 2003 03:49:57 PM |
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"Nakas" <nakas@comcast.net> wrote in
news:r38sb.170906$HS4.1383316@attbi_s01:
"Doc Smartass" <gekiskivviesdo@astroboyskivviesmail.com> wrote in
message news:Xns943017E4F67B7askifyouwantit@216.77.188.2...
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in
news:bqp0rvohio17tmevko0f3dgg2stgipd0jp@Pern.rk:
On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 05:20:21 GMT, "Nakas" <nakas@comcast.net>
posted in alt.atheism:
"Jeff Jones" <jeffj@NOSPAMaustin.rr.com> wrote in message
news:j9zrb.23620$PH6.20498@twister.austin.rr.com...
"Nakas" <nakas@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:E%xrb.114367$275.324361@attbi_s53...
Try adding "OT" to your subject line retard.
You don't think the government sending agents to question the
owner of a website simply because it is anti-war (or
anti-anything for that matter)
is
of interest to atheists, a rather striking minority in this
country?
I certainly think it is of interest.
It may be of intrest to you, but it's still off topic.
How is something of interest to atheists off-topic in a newsgroup
the purpose of which is posts that are of interest to atheists?
I'd like to take this opportunity to announce that I've lost 5 pounds
after
a week of 40-minute walks. Yes, it's off-topic. Isn't that a damn
shame?
;)
I had a pimple on my ***** this morning... but I popped it. Now I'm
going to go take a *****. I'll let everyone know how it went when i
come back.
I'm sure we'll all *yawn* wait for your missive in *eeeyaaaawwwwnnnn*
anticipation.
--
Dr. Smartass
BAAWA Knight of Heckling -- a.a. #1939
"When you're slapped, you'll take it and like it!" -- Sam Spade
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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11 Nov 2003 08:27:16 PM |
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On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:24:56 GMT, "Nakas" <nakas@comcast.net> posted
in alt.atheism:
I had a pimple on my ***** this morning... but I popped it. Now I'm going to
go take a *****. I'll let everyone know how it went when i come back.
It went like this:
<plonk>
--
"A man's ethical behavior should be based effectually on sympathy, education and social
ties and needs; no religious basis is necessary. Man would indeed be in a poor way if he
had to be restrained by fear of punishment and hope of reward after death."
-Albert Einstein
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
rukbat at optonline dot net
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| User: "Nakas" |
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| Title: Re: Bush's fascists visit web site owner |
11 Nov 2003 11:28:55 PM |
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"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
news:jj63rv4c2onj6jpjselc45jl8c24mjcpgq@Pern.rk...
On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:24:56 GMT, "Nakas" <nakas@comcast.net> posted
in alt.atheism:
I had a pimple on my ***** this morning... but I popped it. Now I'm going
to
go take a *****. I'll let everyone know how it went when i come back.
It went like this:
<plonk>
I hope that's the sound of you not bugging me anymore.
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| User: "Fredric L. Rice" |
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| Title: Re: Bush's fascists visit web site owner |
11 Nov 2003 08:40:42 PM |
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Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 05:20:21 GMT, "Nakas" <nakas@comcast.net> posted
in alt.atheism:
"Jeff Jones" <jeffj@NOSPAMaustin.rr.com> wrote in message
news:j9zrb.23620$PH6.20498@twister.austin.rr.com...
"Nakas" <nakas@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:E%xrb.114367$275.324361@attbi_s53...
Try adding "OT" to your subject line retard.
You don't think the government sending agents to question the owner of a
website simply because it is anti-war (or anti-anything for that matter) is
of interest to atheists, a rather striking minority in this country? I
certainly think it is of interest.
It may be of intrest to you, but it's still off topic.
How is something of interest to atheists off-topic in a newsgroup the
purpose of which is posts that are of interest to atheists?
alt.* newsgroups don't have topics anyway. That's a newbie belief that's
been common sinde Prodigy and Genie offered inexpensive Internet access
and the notion got even more widespread when AOL hit the net. The whole
swatting point for spawning alt.* was to remove any notion of charters,
moderators, on topic, or off topic.
---
Yes, George W. Bush is an unelected baby killing fascist dictator.
Also: Scientology's International President (Audio files of this
nutter available at http://www.linkline.com/personal/frice )
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| User: "Fredric L. Rice" |
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| Title: Re: Bush's fascists visit web site owner |
12 Nov 2003 10:11:16 PM |
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"Book Worm" <msvoltaire@comcast.net> wrote:
Wow, isn't it fun to make stupid assertions denigrating those who don't
share your delusions?
Let's just put that back, newbie
alt.* newsgroups don't have topics anyway. That's a newbie belief that's
been common sinde Prodigy and Genie offered inexpensive Internet access
and the notion got even more widespread when AOL hit the net. The whole
swatting point for spawning alt.* was to remove any notion of charters,
moderators, on topic, or off topic.
It used to be old timers wouldn't even talk to you newbies and _certainly_
refused to talk with Prodigy, Genie, AOL, and WebTVers. I was working with
Archie and Veronica when it was decided to spwan alt.* -- where were you,
again?
---
Yes, George W. Bush is an unelected baby killing fascist dictator.
Also: Scientology's International President (Audio files of this
nutter available at http://www.linkline.com/personal/frice )
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| User: "Book Worm" |
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| Title: Re: Bush's fascists visit web site owner |
12 Nov 2003 10:45:48 PM |
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Woden Wrote:
Wow, isn't it fun to make stupid assertions denigrating those who don't
share your delusions?
(The above ad hominen (personal) attack was written by Wooden rather than
addressing the actual issues deliniated in the previous post).
I (Book Worm) wrote:
Wow, isn't it fun to make stupid assertions .....that others make stupid
assertions denigrating those who don't share their delusions. Ad Infinitum.
I certainly don't want credit for the first one. If I disagree with the
issue and feel that it would be constructive to delineate why I address the
issue not attack the poster.
Book Worm (Belinda)
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Bush's fascists visit web site owner |
14 Nov 2003 08:00:25 PM |
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On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 04:45:48 GMT, "Book Worm" <msvoltaire@comcast.net>,
Message ID: <00Esb.137936$9E1.697018@attbi_s52> wrote in alt.atheism;
(snip)
Book Worm (Belinda)
/teasing mode
I do hope you treat books gently as you 'worm' through them.....
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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| User: "Book Worm" |
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| Title: Re: Bush's fascists visit web site owner |
11 Nov 2003 07:44:39 PM |
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I am an atheist and I am interested in articles and opinions on the Bush
Corporate Fascist Regime and its war on the people who work for a living in
this country. With corporate owned government, corporate owned media
propaganda outlets, and corporate-state infested "Christian" right wing
(Clerical Fascism) churches, and McCarthyite controlled fake history schools
and academia: online news and discussion boards are our main outlet for
checking into reality.
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| User: "Nakas" |
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| Title: Re: Bush's fascists visit web site owner |
11 Nov 2003 11:16:12 PM |
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"Book Worm" <msvoltaire@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:bggsb.173170$HS4.1421287@attbi_s01...
I am an atheist and I am interested in articles and opinions on the Bush
Corporate Fascist Regime and its war on the people who work for a living
in
this country. With corporate owned government, corporate owned media
propaganda outlets, and corporate-state infested "Christian" right wing
(Clerical Fascism) churches, and McCarthyite controlled fake history
schools
and academia: online news and discussion boards are our main outlet for
checking into reality.
Well, that's a lot like a crazy man going to a lunatic asylum to make sure
he's still grounded in reality. Half the atheists in here are brainwashed
stupid by the news media.
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| User: "Woden" |
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| Title: Re: Bush's fascists visit web site owner |
11 Nov 2003 11:27:05 PM |
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"Nakas" <nakas@comcast.net> wrote in
news:wmjsb.128010$275.382707@attbi_s53:
"Book Worm" <msvoltaire@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:bggsb.173170$HS4.1421287@attbi_s01...
I am an atheist and I am interested in articles and opinions on the
Bush Corporate Fascist Regime and its war on the people who work for
a living
in
this country. With corporate owned government, corporate owned media
propaganda outlets, and corporate-state infested "Christian" right
wing (Clerical Fascism) churches, and McCarthyite controlled fake
history
schools
and academia: online news and discussion boards are our main outlet
for checking into reality.
Well, that's a lot like a crazy man going to a lunatic asylum to make
sure he's still grounded in reality. Half the atheists in here are
brainwashed stupid by the news media.
Wow, isn't it fun to make stupid assertions denigrating those who don't
share your delusions?
--
Woden
"religion is a socio-political institution for the control of
people's thoughts, lives, and actions; based on
ancient myths and superstitions perpetrated through
generations of subtle yet pervasive brainwashing."
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| User: "Fredric L. Rice" |
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| Title: Re: Bush's fascists visit web site owner |
12 Nov 2003 10:13:31 PM |
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"Nakas" <nakas@comcast.net> wrote:
"Book Worm" <msvoltaire@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:bggsb.173170$HS4.1421287@attbi_s01...
I am an atheist and I am interested in articles and opinions on the Bush
Corporate Fascist Regime and its war on the people who work for a living in
this country. With corporate owned government, corporate owned media
propaganda outlets, and corporate-state infested "Christian" right wing
(Clerical Fascism) churches, and McCarthyite controlled fake history schools
and academia: online news and discussion boards are our main outlet for
checking into reality.
Well, that's a lot like a crazy man going to a lunatic asylum to make sure
he's still grounded in reality. Half the atheists in here are brainwashed
stupid by the news media.
It kind of looks as if you haven't been watching the activities of this
unelected fascist baby killing dictator, then. Didn't you notice that he
invaded Iraq and started murdering their children and stealing their oil
claiming Iraq was some how a threat?
Right.
Listen up, buddy: These fascists currently running the United States don't
care whether you or anybody else believes in their Christanic death gods.
You could be next on their list.
---
Yes, George W. Bush is an unelected baby killing fascist dictator.
Also: Scientology's International President (Audio files of this
nutter available at http://www.linkline.com/personal/frice )
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| User: "Nakas" |
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| Title: Re: Bush's fascists visit web site owner |
12 Nov 2003 11:52:59 PM |
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"Fredric L. Rice" <frice@skeptictank.org> wrote in message
news:vr6189ll8jmmfb@corp.supernews.com...
"Nakas" <nakas@comcast.net> wrote:
"Book Worm" <msvoltaire@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:bggsb.173170$HS4.1421287@attbi_s01...
I am an atheist and I am interested in articles and opinions on the
Bush
Corporate Fascist Regime and its war on the people who work for a
living in
this country. With corporate owned government, corporate owned media
propaganda outlets, and corporate-state infested "Christian" right wing
(Clerical Fascism) churches, and McCarthyite controlled fake history
schools
and academia: online news and discussion boards are our main outlet
for
checking into reality.
Well, that's a lot like a crazy man going to a lunatic asylum to make
sure
he's still grounded in reality. Half the atheists in here are
brainwashed
stupid by the news media.
It kind of looks as if you haven't been watching the activities of this
unelected fascist baby killing dictator, then. Didn't you notice that he
invaded Iraq and started murdering their children and stealing their oil
claiming Iraq was some how a threat?
Right.
Listen up, buddy: These fascists currently running the United States don't
care whether you or anybody else believes in their Christanic death gods.
You could be next on their list.
Dude, turn off the news for a few minutes and get a grip.
The media serves up the news like a soap opera, and news junkies like you
eat it up. They exaggerate the antagonism between the parties because it
makes for good entertainment, and news junkies like you eat it up. They
make it seem like the world is ending to keep you news junkies glued to your
seats. Your addiction to the news is no different than people addicted to
Survivor. It's pathetic. Turn off the soap opera and get a life.
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| User: "Fredric L. Rice" |
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| Title: Re: Bush's fascists visit web site owner |
13 Nov 2003 08:27:51 PM |
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"Nakas" <nakas@comcast.net> wrote:
"Fredric L. Rice" <frice@skeptictank.org> wrote in message
news:vr6189ll8jmmfb@corp.supernews.com...
Listen up, buddy: These fascists currently running the United States don't
care whether you or anybody else believes in their Christanic death gods.
You could be next on their list.
Dude, turn off the news for a few minutes and get a grip.
Turning _off_ the right wing media is the first step toward getting a full
story about the atrocities Bush and his fellow fascists have been engaged
in. FOX "News" and CNN and all the other "embedded reporters" haven't
been covering what's really going on.
For factual news these days people go to the Internet and read what the
BBC and other European news reporters have to say about Bush's atrocities.
---
Yes, George W. Bush is an unelected baby killing fascist dictator.
Also: Scientology's International President (Audio files of this
nutter available at http://www.linkline.com/personal/frice )
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| User: "Nakas" |
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| Title: Re: Bush's fascists visit web site owner |
14 Nov 2003 08:28:43 PM |
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"Fredric L. Rice" <frice@skeptictank.org> wrote in message
news:vr8iul9ri654e1@corp.supernews.com...
"Nakas" <nakas@comcast.net> wrote:
"Fredric L. Rice" <frice@skeptictank.org> wrote in message
news:vr6189ll8jmmfb@corp.supernews.com...
Listen up, buddy: These fascists currently running the United States
don't
care whether you or anybody else believes in their Christanic death
gods.
You could be next on their list.
Dude, turn off the news for a few minutes and get a grip.
Turning _off_ the right wing media is the first step toward getting a full
story about the atrocities Bush and his fellow fascists have been engaged
in. FOX "News" and CNN and all the other "embedded reporters" haven't
been covering what's really going on.
For factual news these days people go to the Internet and read what the
BBC and other European news reporters have to say about Bush's atrocities.
Right, cause *everything* on the internet is true. But I wasn't only
talking about this so called "right wing" media... I was talking about all
news media. Especially whatever tabloid news sources that have got your
panties in such a bunch.
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