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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Jason Gastrich"
Date: 02 Apr 2005 11:45:49 PM
Object: California Advanced Health Care Directive
In order to avoid something like the Schiavo case happening to you, it would
be wise to fill out the California Advanced Health Care Directive (or
something equivalent). I have and here is a copy in case you want it:
http://jcsm.org/MISC/CaliforniaAHCD.htm
God bless,
Jason
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User: "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim"

Title: Re: California Advanced Health Care Directive 03 Apr 2005 12:10:47 AM
In order to avoid something like the Schiavo case happening to you, it
would be wise to kill all republicscums and religious fruitcakes.
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User: "Michelle Malkin"

Title: Re: California Advanced Health Care Directive 03 Apr 2005 05:49:01 AM
"SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim" <killgod@killgod.com> wrote in message
news:bwG3e.11075$z.4092@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...

In order to avoid something like the Schiavo case happening to you, it
would be wise to kill all republicscums and religious fruitcakes.

You mean use their methods? No thanks.
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User: "Tukla Ratte"

Title: Re: California Advanced Health Care Directive 05 Apr 2005 08:56:51 PM
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> writes:

"SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim" <killgod@killgod.com> wrote in message
news:bwG3e.11075$z.4092@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...

In order to avoid something like the Schiavo case happening to you, it
would be wise to kill all republicscums and religious fruitcakes.

You mean use their methods? No thanks.

Are...are you putting me on a diet? <whimper>
--
Tukla, Eater of Theists, Squeaker of Chew Toys
aa1347, Official Mascot of Alt.Atheism
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User: "Michelle Malkin"

Title: Re: California Advanced Health Care Directive 06 Apr 2005 12:14:47 AM
"Tukla Ratte" <tukla_ratte@tukla.net> wrote in message
news:m2mzsdgcx8.fsf@stitch.tukla.net...

"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> writes:

"SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim" <killgod@killgod.com> wrote in message
news:bwG3e.11075$z.4092@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...

In order to avoid something like the Schiavo case happening to you, it
would be wise to kill all republicscums and religious fruitcakes.

You mean use their methods? No thanks.


Are...are you putting me on a diet? <whimper>

Oh, no, Tukkles. I'd never do that to you. (To me, on the
other hand...) There's always the North Forty herd which
has fresh fundies and other types of Republiscum added
to it daily, y'know.
Mickey


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Tukla, Eater of Theists, Squeaker of Chew Toys
aa1347, Official Mascot of Alt.Atheism

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User: "Masked Avenger"

Title: Re: California Advanced Health Care Directive 03 Apr 2005 05:56:01 AM
Jason Gastrich wrote:

In order to avoid something like the Schiavo case happening to you, it would
be wise to fill out the California Advanced Health Care Directive (or
something equivalent). I have and here is a copy in case you want it:
http://jcsm.org/MISC/CaliforniaAHCD.htm

Just in case 'Prayer' doesn't work ..... eh Jason ? Fat lot of good it
did Terri .....
--
Masked Avenger
aa#2224
EAC Chief Technician in charge of remotely rigging Fundie 'Spell
Checkers' so they all look like hick home schooled yokels
Does Schroedinger's cat have 18 half lives ?
.

User: "Carson West"

Title: Re: California Advanced Health Care Directive 03 Apr 2005 10:16:04 AM
On Sat, 02 Apr 2005 15:45:49 -0800, Jason Gastrich wrote:

In order to avoid something like the Schiavo case happening to
you, it would be wise to fill out the California Advanced Health
Care Directive (or something equivalent). I have and here is
a copy in case you want it:

[Snip]
For those who feel that this is a rather blatant attempt, yet again, by
Jason to inflate the hit count on his site, here are two other references,
both in PDF, that are available:
www.lentillem.com/AHCD.pdf
www.hogefenton.com/PDF%20Files/advance.pdf
State laws vary, however, and so it would be prudent to check the
requirements in the state--and country--in which you live. Jason seems to
forget that probably relatively few readers are from or in the state
of California. That strikes me as rather provincial thinking for one with
a "worldwide" ministry that has presumably touched "millions," but then,
Jason has always been impressed with numbers. That is why it was not a
problem for him to use this very tragic set of circumstances to try to
increase traffic to his site.
.
User: "David"

Title: Re: California Advanced Health Care Directive 03 Apr 2005 02:59:07 PM
Carson West:

On Sat, 02 Apr 2005 15:45:49 -0800, Jason Gastrich wrote:

In order to avoid something like the Schiavo case happening to
you, it would be wise to fill out the California Advanced Health
Care Directive (or something equivalent). I have and here is
a copy in case you want it:


[Snip]

For those who feel that this is a rather blatant attempt, yet again, by
Jason to inflate the hit count on his site, here are two other references,
both in PDF, that are available:

www.lentillem.com/AHCD.pdf

www.hogefenton.com/PDF%20Files/advance.pdf

The guy can do no right in your eyes.
These other sites probably don't have anything like the exposure of Jason's
sites, so putting up the document on his site was a valuable public service
to Americans.
Nota bene, he didn't suggest to people which way they ought to choose in the
area of prolonging life or not prolonging life, he simply showed a way to
avoid falling into a legal no-man's land, as in the Schiavo case.
Only the most cynical piece of legal mafia scum could be pissed with someone
for that.


State laws vary, however, and so it would be prudent to check the
requirements in the state--and country--in which you live. Jason seems to
forget that probably relatively few readers are from or in the state
of California. That strikes me as rather provincial thinking for one with
a "worldwide" ministry that has presumably touched "millions," but then,
Jason has always been impressed with numbers. That is why it was not a
problem for him to use this very tragic set of circumstances to try to
increase traffic to his site.

He did not say only that, he said "something like that". In this case, if he
has shown what is available in California, then he has given people the
opportunity to look for the equivalent in their state or to devise their own
form of words if they cannot find it. He did not suggest that only this one
was to be used.
So, I ask you, can you be fair, for once?
Or is that asking too much?
.
User: "Harvest Dancer"

Title: Re: California Advanced Health Care Directive 03 Apr 2005 03:31:03 PM
David wrote:

Carson West:

On Sat, 02 Apr 2005 15:45:49 -0800, Jason Gastrich wrote:

In order to avoid something like the Schiavo case happening to
you, it would be wise to fill out the California Advanced Health
Care Directive (or something equivalent). I have and here is
a copy in case you want it:


[Snip]

For those who feel that this is a rather blatant attempt, yet

again, by

Jason to inflate the hit count on his site, here are two other

references,

both in PDF, that are available:

www.lentillem.com/AHCD.pdf

www.hogefenton.com/PDF%20Files/advance.pdf



The guy can do no right in your eyes.

These other sites probably don't have anything like the exposure of

Jason's

sites, so putting up the document on his site was a valuable public

service

to Americans.

They do not have the same exposure as Gastrich's site, because unlike
Gastrich they reach many people.

Nota bene, he didn't suggest to people which way they ought to choose

in the

area of prolonging life or not prolonging life, he simply showed a

way to

avoid falling into a legal no-man's land, as in the Schiavo case.

Only the most cynical piece of legal mafia scum could be pissed with

someone

for that.

Do you think that is the reason Gastrich gets criticised? He wasn't
criticized for taking a side in the Schiavo case, but for pretending
his click-through is to the source site.

State laws vary, however, and so it would be prudent to check the
requirements in the state--and country--in which you live. Jason

seems to

forget that probably relatively few readers are from or in the

state

of California. That strikes me as rather provincial thinking for

one with

a "worldwide" ministry that has presumably touched "millions," but

then,

Jason has always been impressed with numbers. That is why it was

not a

problem for him to use this very tragic set of circumstances to try

to

increase traffic to his site.


He did not say only that, he said "something like that". In this

case, if he

has shown what is available in California, then he has given people

the

opportunity to look for the equivalent in their state or to devise

their own

form of words if they cannot find it. He did not suggest that only

this one

was to be used.

So, I ask you, can you be fair, for once?

Or is that asking too much?

The same can, and often is, asked of you.
Jason Harvestdancer
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User: "Secular Fundamentalist"

Title: Re: California Advanced Health Care Directive 03 Apr 2005 11:07:29 AM
The gates of free.christians slowly swung open, and there stood "Jason
Gastrich" <usenetspam1@yahoo.com>,who intoned thus:

In order to avoid something like the Schiavo case happening to you, it would
be wise to fill out the California Advanced Health Care Directive (or
something equivalent). I have and here is a copy in case you want it:

http://tinyurl.com/4bqt9
It is, in effect, a pro-forma living will. It covers all bases and
leaves those responsible for a person's care in no doubt as to the
wishes of the patient.
This puts us all in charge of our lives, including their conclusion
and that is all any sentient, living being can wish for, especially
if, like me and a growing majority of the civilised world, you don't
believe in God.
David Silverman F.L.A.H.N.
aa #2208
Mistabit doesn't work in mysterious ways, people just don't pay attention.
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