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"stoney" |
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06 Jan 2006 11:11:07 PM |
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Calling all Pagans: It’s time to fight back! |
http://www.religiouswrong.us/calling-all-pagans-its-time-to-fight-back/
May 4, 2005
Calling all Pagans: It’s time to fight back!
Nicholas von Hoffman, New York Observer
En garde!
A piece of treacherous language has made its way into our public
discourse. Where once words such as “religion,” “Christianity” and
“Judaism” were heard, public figures now speak of “persons of faith”
or “people of faith,” “the faith community” and “faith-based.”
Moreover, anything “faith-based” is axiomatically good, and anyone who
questions the presumption is axiomatically bad.
These expressions divide us into believers and nonbelievers, with the
believers or persons of faith enjoying not only an alleged numerical
majority but a moral superiority as well. It follows that anyone
living outside the community of faith is a bottom-dwelling,
life-hating, secular pederast destined for pain eternal in the land of
Tophat.
Saints and sinners are being lined up and divided everywhere. Have you
seen Robert Novak on TV telling all who will listen the whys of his
becoming a Roman Catholic? Woe to him who cannot claim membership
among the faithful.
The term “people of faith” has come to be used interchangeably with
the word “American.” If there’s a politician left in the United States
who doesn’t season his speech with tremulous references to the
“peoples of faith,” I can’t recall his name. The Democrats–who are
supposed to have a weakness for killing the unborn and sexually
assaulting the underage–have given up their advocacy of vice and
perversion; they, too, now speak in deferential tones of the “people
of faith,” whose votes they seek to corral by pious faces and
reverential references to “the God of us all.”
The expression “people of faith” conveys the idea of a holy (or
not-so-holy) alliance of religions, united for good against the
disorganized forces of anarchic relativists, secularists, and people
of little or no faith. They have values–a good thing. The rest of us
(few in number though we may be) stand for what is destructive of
hearth, community and country–a bad thing.
The people of faith are sympathetic to the Republican Party and its
objectives. Democrats, intimidated by the religiosity loose in the
country, have come to accept the premise that the test of public
policy is how a measure is greeted by the faith community. At the rate
the faith juggernaut is moving to govern the nation, the once-red-hot
liberal patootie, Hillary Rodham Clinton, now a wifely Mrs. Hillary
Clinton, will soon be campaigning against Roe v. Wade. Judging by who
Ms. Clinton was in the days of yore as against who Lady Clinton is
nowadays, you would have to agree that faith can pass miracles.
Hillary is not alone. Can you think of a single person of stature in
public life who dares to challenge the people of faith? Maybe a shock
jock here or there has the onions to take on this coalition of the
altogether too godly. Nobody else does.
The closest thing we have to organized opposition to the religious
domination of public life is Americans United for the Separation of
Church and State–but though their geeky hearts are in the right place,
I wouldn’t want to speculate on the location of their heads. Battling
the appointment of faith-based judges and preventing public buildings
from being festooned with Bible quotations is well and good as far as
it goes, but it isn’t far enough.
Somebody or something has got to start battling religion itself. God
is the enemy–meaning the God locked up by organized religions and
guarded by ministers, priests, rabbis, popes and mullahs.
This is not a struggle to be carried on in the law courts and the
legislatures. Religionists are crawling in everywhere, swarming the
schools, movies, medicine and research labs. Their intent is to
install a faith commissar to oversee every major social institution.
We don’t need lawyers here; we need fumigators. We need people in
HAZMAT suits to go in and smoke ‘em out.
We need people to stand up in public against the Christo-Islamic
alliance’s assaults on relativism. It’s been more than a generation
since anyone with access to a significant pulpit stood up for
relativism. The clerics have made “relativism’ into a dirty word
instead of what it actually is: a term for the application of reason
to public affairs.
Turn your back on relativism and you get absolutism. Show me a true
believer and I’ll show you a bigot. Absolutism is at the heart of
every religion–our dogma or nothing. The absolutist foundations of
every faith preclude compromise, adjustments, deal-making, pragmatism,
the changing of opinion, the admission of new evidence–all the tools
necessary for running a complicated, polyglot, poly-religious,
poly-ethnic, poly-cultural modern, science-based, technology-dependent
society. The absolutism that underlies religious faith closes the door
marked “Reason” and opens the door labeled “Holy War.”
There was a time when the evangelical Calvinist form of the Christian
religion was so prevalent that it could run American society with some
success–but that was 200 years ago. Even then, people of non-faith
tried to beat off the religious prohibitionism that strove to close
the country down on Sundays, to suppress music, dancing, baseball,
Sabbath smooching and the joy of life and replace it with
on-your-knees worship and clerical rule. The coming of large numbers
of Roman Catholic immigrants touched off the public-school wars of the
19th century. Religious absolutism being what it is, the fight over
whose dogma and morals were to be inculcated into the students had to
be resolved by kicking all religion out of the schools. That never
completely happened, but at least God was pushed into the corner with
the elimination of school prayer and the exile of religious symbols
and activities. Recently, though, God has been making a comeback–and
God help us all if He is successful.
The alliance among the various religions embraced by the people of
faith is a tenuous one; in the end, every religion hates every other
religion. The day before Benedict XVI was elected, The Wall Street
Journal ran a front-page article about how Islam was converting people
faster than the Catholic Church–which, rousing itself from a certain
evangelical torpor, was starting to say, “No more Mr. Nice Guy! We
can’t let the towelheads get ahead of us.” (The language used, of
course, was more decorous, but the meaning was there.)
The triumph of absolutist faith over relativism, of religion over
secularism, will start up a new era of religious strife, if it hasn’t
already begun. The history of religious contention in the West does
contain instances of peace, moments when religions signed truces and
stopped the warfare, but social peace didn’t prevail until religion
was booted out of the marketplace, driven out of the halls of power
and sealed up in private homes and places of worship. Religion in
private may be a good thing; religion in public is a menace.
In the U.S., with a growing Muslim population, a super-energetic
Jewish population and an increasingly crazed Christian population, it
is but a matter of time before the “people of faith” coalition falls
apart and we get down to some good old-fashioned religious
throat-slitting. Religions are tolerant only when they lack the power
to be otherwise; turning the country over to one of them or all of
them combined is daft. Historically, the people of faith have a
war-crimes record longer than your arm.
A good guess would be that only a minority of the population is
infected with virulent forms of faith. But it’s an organized minority,
awash in money. We of little faith and less zeal are neither organized
nor rich nor eaten up with a need to proselytize, and therefore we are
without defenses against God’s putschists.
To stop them, we don’t have to pass laws. It’s not vital to get “under
God” out of the Pledge of Allegiance. What is vital is that we, the
faithless, raise a hullabaloo every time the people of faith play the
family-values card, every time they claim that their faith puts them
at the head of the line, every time they presume to decide what we
should see, hear and do. What is vital is that we bray, honk, whinny,
oink and screech at every public assertion that superstition trumps
science, that they’ve got a god and that those of us without one are
no damn good.
Shout out the facts: They put “in God we trust” on the money, and
every year it’s worth less than it was the year before.
You may reach Nicholas von Hoffman via email at:
nvonhoffman@observer.com.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "Walter Bushell" |
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| Title: Re: Calling all Pagans: It’s time to fight back! |
26 Jan 2006 11:41:29 AM |
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In article <87jur1961v4u9uc7vhauqu61fiogmrvced@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
http://www.religiouswrong.us/calling-all-pagans-its-time-to-fight-back/
May 4, 2005
Calling all Pagans: It’s time to fight back!
Nicholas von Hoffman, New York Observer
En garde!
Aren't some pagans people of faith? Socrates certainly was.
Anyway if you mix Christianity, Islam and Judaism the only thing you can
possibly end up with is a type of Hinduism.
For example.
The high point of the Koran is "God does not beget nor is He begotten,
and there is no one like unto Him.".
Seems to deny Christianity in the most radical terms possible.
--
"The power of the Executive to cast a man into prison without formulating any
charge known to the law, and particularly to deny him the judgement of his
peers, is in the highest degree odious and is the foundation of all totali-
tarian government whether Nazi or Communist." -- W. Churchill, Nov 21, 1943
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Calling all Pagans: It’s time to fight back! |
27 Jan 2006 09:21:35 AM |
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On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 12:41:29 -0500, Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <87jur1961v4u9uc7vhauqu61fiogmrvced@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
http://www.religiouswrong.us/calling-all-pagans-its-time-to-fight-back/
May 4, 2005
Calling all Pagans: It’s time to fight back!
Nicholas von Hoffman, New York Observer
En garde!
Aren't some pagans people of faith? Socrates certainly was.
Sure.
Anyway if you mix Christianity, Islam and Judaism the only thing you can
possibly end up with is a type of Hinduism.
Since the first two are mongrels to begin with....
For example.
The high point of the Koran is "God does not beget nor is He begotten,
and there is no one like unto Him.".
Fictional entities have that tendency.
Seems to deny Christianity in the most radical terms possible.
Sectarian differences.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Calling all Pagans: It’s time to fight back! |
07 Jan 2006 02:15:13 AM |
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In article <87jur1961v4u9uc7vhauqu61fiogmrvced@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
http://www.religiouswrong.us/calling-all-pagans-its-time-to-fight-back/
May 4, 2005
Calling all Pagans: It’s time to fight back!
Nicholas von Hoffman, New York Observer
En garde!
A piece of treacherous language has made its way into our public
discourse. Where once words such as “religion,” “Christianity” and
“Judaism” were heard, public figures now speak of “persons of faith”
or “people of faith,” “the faith community” and “faith-based.”
Moreover, anything “faith-based” is axiomatically good, and anyone who
questions the presumption is axiomatically bad.
Good article. Sad but true, Atheists and other non-"true believers" are
definitely being painted as the bad guys. I know that it's a frightening
analogy, but when I hear some of these people speak against atheists, I
am reminded of what I read about what Hitler and the Nazis were saying
about the Jews in the 1930s.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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| User: "stoney" |
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07 Jan 2006 08:35:18 PM |
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On Sat, 07 Jan 2006 00:15:13 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <87jur1961v4u9uc7vhauqu61fiogmrvced@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
http://www.religiouswrong.us/calling-all-pagans-its-time-to-fight-back/
May 4, 2005
Calling all Pagans: It’s time to fight back!
Nicholas von Hoffman, New York Observer
En garde!
A piece of treacherous language has made its way into our public
discourse. Where once words such as “religion,” “Christianity” and
“Judaism” were heard, public figures now speak of “persons of faith”
or “people of faith,” “the faith community” and “faith-based.”
Moreover, anything “faith-based” is axiomatically good, and anyone who
questions the presumption is axiomatically bad.
Good article. Sad but true, Atheists and other non-"true believers" are
definitely being painted as the bad guys. I know that it's a frightening
analogy, but when I hear some of these people speak against atheists, I
am reminded of what I read about what Hitler and the Nazis were saying
about the Jews in the 1930s.
Don't forget that pic of that lady listening to Hitler with gleaming
eyes empty of intelligence.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
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| User: "johac" |
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08 Jan 2006 01:58:05 AM |
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In article <6hu0s1tvd4legi84kavane1akf83u6vbbl@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 07 Jan 2006 00:15:13 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <87jur1961v4u9uc7vhauqu61fiogmrvced@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
http://www.religiouswrong.us/calling-all-pagans-its-time-to-fight-back/
May 4, 2005
Calling all Pagans: It’s time to fight back!
Nicholas von Hoffman, New York Observer
En garde!
A piece of treacherous language has made its way into our public
discourse. Where once words such as “religion,” “Christianity” and
“Judaism” were heard, public figures now speak of “persons of faith”
or “people of faith,” “the faith community” and “faith-based.”
Moreover, anything “faith-based” is axiomatically good, and anyone who
questions the presumption is axiomatically bad.
Good article. Sad but true, Atheists and other non-"true believers" are
definitely being painted as the bad guys. I know that it's a frightening
analogy, but when I hear some of these people speak against atheists, I
am reminded of what I read about what Hitler and the Nazis were saying
about the Jews in the 1930s.
Don't forget that pic of that lady listening to Hitler with gleaming
eyes empty of intelligence.
Ever see 'Triumph of the Will'? It showed women along the parade rout
going orgasmic as AH's car passed by. Whenever I hear of Shrub having
one of his invitation only rallies, I wonder why I am reminded of that
movie?
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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| User: "stoney" |
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08 Jan 2006 03:47:36 PM |
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On Sat, 07 Jan 2006 23:58:05 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <6hu0s1tvd4legi84kavane1akf83u6vbbl@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 07 Jan 2006 00:15:13 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <87jur1961v4u9uc7vhauqu61fiogmrvced@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
http://www.religiouswrong.us/calling-all-pagans-its-time-to-fight-back/
May 4, 2005
Calling all Pagans: It’s time to fight back!
Nicholas von Hoffman, New York Observer
En garde!
A piece of treacherous language has made its way into our public
discourse. Where once words such as “religion,” “Christianity” and
“Judaism” were heard, public figures now speak of “persons of faith”
or “people of faith,” “the faith community” and “faith-based.”
Moreover, anything “faith-based” is axiomatically good, and anyone who
questions the presumption is axiomatically bad.
Good article. Sad but true, Atheists and other non-"true believers" are
definitely being painted as the bad guys. I know that it's a frightening
analogy, but when I hear some of these people speak against atheists, I
am reminded of what I read about what Hitler and the Nazis were saying
about the Jews in the 1930s.
Don't forget that pic of that lady listening to Hitler with gleaming
eyes empty of intelligence.
Ever see 'Triumph of the Will'?
No. It was part of an advert possibly for history stuff.
It showed women along the parade rout
going orgasmic as AH's car passed by. Whenever I hear of Shrub having
one of his invitation only rallies, I wonder why I am reminded of that
movie?
He's as insane as shickelgruber.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Calling all Pagans: It’s time to fight back! |
08 Jan 2006 11:56:01 PM |
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In article <2223s1p057enhn14p5bhp3c9n7ehgdu2p3@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 07 Jan 2006 23:58:05 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <6hu0s1tvd4legi84kavane1akf83u6vbbl@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 07 Jan 2006 00:15:13 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <87jur1961v4u9uc7vhauqu61fiogmrvced@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
http://www.religiouswrong.us/calling-all-pagans-its-time-to-fight-back/
May 4, 2005
Calling all Pagans: It’s time to fight back!
Nicholas von Hoffman, New York Observer
En garde!
A piece of treacherous language has made its way into our public
discourse. Where once words such as “religion,” “Christianity” and
“Judaism” were heard, public figures now speak of “persons of faith”
or “people of faith,” “the faith community” and “faith-based.”
Moreover, anything “faith-based” is axiomatically good, and anyone who
questions the presumption is axiomatically bad.
Good article. Sad but true, Atheists and other non-"true believers" are
definitely being painted as the bad guys. I know that it's a frightening
analogy, but when I hear some of these people speak against atheists, I
am reminded of what I read about what Hitler and the Nazis were saying
about the Jews in the 1930s.
Don't forget that pic of that lady listening to Hitler with gleaming
eyes empty of intelligence.
Ever see 'Triumph of the Will'?
No. It was part of an advert possibly for history stuff.
'Triumph of the Will' was the (in)famous documentary made by Leni
Riefenstahl about the big rally held by the Nazis in Nuremberg in 1934.
It's chilling.
It showed women along the parade rout
going orgasmic as AH's car passed by. Whenever I hear of Shrub having
one of his invitation only rallies, I wonder why I am reminded of that
movie?
He's as insane as shickelgruber.
Another movie that I saw recently on DVD was 'Downfall' which told of
the last days of Herr Schickelgruber in Berlin. It was another
frightening example of what happens to leaders whose reach exceeds their
grasp and become so deluded by their own power that they refuse to
recognize their mistakes.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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09 Jan 2006 11:25:06 AM |
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"johac" <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-1E40A1.21560108012006@news.giganews.com...
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Another movie that I saw recently on DVD was 'Downfall' which told of
the last days of Herr Schickelgruber in Berlin. It was another
frightening example of what happens to leaders whose reach exceeds their
grasp and become so deluded by their own power that they refuse to
recognize their mistakes.
Wasn't that a great (but incredibly chilling) movie? Just watched it this
past Friday evening.
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
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| User: "johac" |
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11 Jan 2006 12:10:47 AM |
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In article <42fkgrF1insjgU1@individual.net>,
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"johac" <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-1E40A1.21560108012006@news.giganews.com...
snip
Another movie that I saw recently on DVD was 'Downfall' which told of
the last days of Herr Schickelgruber in Berlin. It was another
frightening example of what happens to leaders whose reach exceeds their
grasp and become so deluded by their own power that they refuse to
recognize their mistakes.
Wasn't that a great (but incredibly chilling) movie? Just watched it this
past Friday evening.
I agree. I hope it gets nominated for the best foreign film Academy
Award. It describes vividly just how evil and depraved these people were.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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11 Jan 2006 11:54:08 AM |
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"johac" <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-DA3753.22104710012006@news.giganews.com...
In article <42fkgrF1insjgU1@individual.net>,
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"johac" <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-1E40A1.21560108012006@news.giganews.com...
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Another movie that I saw recently on DVD was 'Downfall' which told of
the last days of Herr Schickelgruber in Berlin. It was another
frightening example of what happens to leaders whose reach exceeds
their
grasp and become so deluded by their own power that they refuse to
recognize their mistakes.
Wasn't that a great (but incredibly chilling) movie? Just watched it this
past Friday evening.
I agree. I hope it gets nominated for the best foreign film Academy
Award. It describes vividly just how evil and depraved these people were.
It was just so bizarre to see Hitler ranting and making plans to send in
more troops, etc., while it was obvious to everyone else that they'd lost
the war. I burst into tears during the scene where Magda Goebbles murders
her own children. So heart-breaking :(
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
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| User: "johac" |
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12 Jan 2006 12:22:04 AM |
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In article <42kuv9F1jkmd1U1@individual.net>,
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"johac" <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-DA3753.22104710012006@news.giganews.com...
In article <42fkgrF1insjgU1@individual.net>,
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"johac" <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-1E40A1.21560108012006@news.giganews.com...
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Another movie that I saw recently on DVD was 'Downfall' which told of
the last days of Herr Schickelgruber in Berlin. It was another
frightening example of what happens to leaders whose reach exceeds
their
grasp and become so deluded by their own power that they refuse to
recognize their mistakes.
Wasn't that a great (but incredibly chilling) movie? Just watched it this
past Friday evening.
I agree. I hope it gets nominated for the best foreign film Academy
Award. It describes vividly just how evil and depraved these people were.
It was just so bizarre to see Hitler ranting and making plans to send in
more troops, etc., while it was obvious to everyone else that they'd lost
the war. I burst into tears during the scene where Magda Goebbles murders
her own children. So heart-breaking :(
I know. I just can't fathom how a mother could do that to her own kids.
It was truly sad.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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12 Jan 2006 10:31:46 AM |
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"johac" <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-159FE1.22220411012006@news.giganews.com...
In article <42kuv9F1jkmd1U1@individual.net>,
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
snip
]>>
It was just so bizarre to see Hitler ranting and making plans to send in
more troops, etc., while it was obvious to everyone else that they'd lost
the war. I burst into tears during the scene where Magda Goebbles
murders
her own children. So heart-breaking :(
I know. I just can't fathom how a mother could do that to her own kids.
It was truly sad.
That just shows how fanatical they were. I've seen photos of the dead
children lined up next to their parents. They were SO beautiful :(
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
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| User: "johac" |
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12 Jan 2006 11:56:52 PM |
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In article <42negqF1k5iu9U1@individual.net>,
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"johac" <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-159FE1.22220411012006@news.giganews.com...
In article <42kuv9F1jkmd1U1@individual.net>,
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
snip
]>>
It was just so bizarre to see Hitler ranting and making plans to send in
more troops, etc., while it was obvious to everyone else that they'd lost
the war. I burst into tears during the scene where Magda Goebbles
murders
her own children. So heart-breaking :(
I know. I just can't fathom how a mother could do that to her own kids.
It was truly sad.
That just shows how fanatical they were. I've seen photos of the dead
children lined up next to their parents. They were SO beautiful :(
I've seen those too. So sad. :-(
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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26 Jan 2006 11:43:13 AM |
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In article <jhachmann-159FE1.22220411012006@news.giganews.com>,
johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote:
In article <42kuv9F1jkmd1U1@individual.net>,
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"johac" <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-DA3753.22104710012006@news.giganews.com...
In article <42fkgrF1insjgU1@individual.net>,
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"johac" <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-1E40A1.21560108012006@news.giganews.com...
snip
Another movie that I saw recently on DVD was 'Downfall' which told of
the last days of Herr Schickelgruber in Berlin. It was another
frightening example of what happens to leaders whose reach exceeds
their
grasp and become so deluded by their own power that they refuse to
recognize their mistakes.
Wasn't that a great (but incredibly chilling) movie? Just watched it this
past Friday evening.
I agree. I hope it gets nominated for the best foreign film Academy
Award. It describes vividly just how evil and depraved these people were.
It was just so bizarre to see Hitler ranting and making plans to send in
more troops, etc., while it was obvious to everyone else that they'd lost
the war. I burst into tears during the scene where Magda Goebbles murders
her own children. So heart-breaking :(
I know. I just can't fathom how a mother could do that to her own kids.
It was truly sad.
The expected to be treated as they treated others, the Jews, the Slavs,
the Gypsy. Besides since they lost the war they were untermenchen at the
best.
--
"The power of the Executive to cast a man into prison without formulating any
charge known to the law, and particularly to deny him the judgement of his
peers, is in the highest degree odious and is the foundation of all totali-
tarian government whether Nazi or Communist." -- W. Churchill, Nov 21, 1943
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11 Jan 2006 11:51:41 AM |
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On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 22:10:47 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <42fkgrF1insjgU1@individual.net>,
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"johac" <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-1E40A1.21560108012006@news.giganews.com...
snip
Another movie that I saw recently on DVD was 'Downfall' which told of
the last days of Herr Schickelgruber in Berlin. It was another
frightening example of what happens to leaders whose reach exceeds their
grasp and become so deluded by their own power that they refuse to
recognize their mistakes.
Wasn't that a great (but incredibly chilling) movie? Just watched it this
past Friday evening.
I agree. I hope it gets nominated for the best foreign film Academy
Award. It describes vividly just how evil and depraved these people were.
So when does the ShrubCo flick get released?
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
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12 Jan 2006 12:24:12 AM |
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In article <qchas1tu91dd72qgs7a1n91tnfileetj01@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 22:10:47 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <42fkgrF1insjgU1@individual.net>,
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"johac" <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-1E40A1.21560108012006@news.giganews.com...
snip
Another movie that I saw recently on DVD was 'Downfall' which told of
the last days of Herr Schickelgruber in Berlin. It was another
frightening example of what happens to leaders whose reach exceeds their
grasp and become so deluded by their own power that they refuse to
recognize their mistakes.
Wasn't that a great (but incredibly chilling) movie? Just watched it this
past Friday evening.
I agree. I hope it gets nominated for the best foreign film Academy
Award. It describes vividly just how evil and depraved these people were.
So when does the ShrubCo flick get released?
As soon as they get the cameras set up in Cheney's 'undisclosed
location' bunker.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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12 Jan 2006 11:11:36 AM |
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On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 22:24:12 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <qchas1tu91dd72qgs7a1n91tnfileetj01@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 22:10:47 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <42fkgrF1insjgU1@individual.net>,
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"johac" <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-1E40A1.21560108012006@news.giganews.com...
snip
Another movie that I saw recently on DVD was 'Downfall' which told of
the last days of Herr Schickelgruber in Berlin. It was another
frightening example of what happens to leaders whose reach exceeds their
grasp and become so deluded by their own power that they refuse to
recognize their mistakes.
Wasn't that a great (but incredibly chilling) movie? Just watched it this
past Friday evening.
I agree. I hope it gets nominated for the best foreign film Academy
Award. It describes vividly just how evil and depraved these people were.
So when does the ShrubCo flick get released?
As soon as they get the cameras set up in Cheney's 'undisclosed
location' bunker.
Pshaw! That's easy. It's under the Chicken Ra...mmmmpphhhh.....
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
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12 Jan 2006 11:55:34 PM |
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In article <2d3ds15vtsivtbcfq449atiq5cpdp565cp@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 22:24:12 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <qchas1tu91dd72qgs7a1n91tnfileetj01@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 22:10:47 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <42fkgrF1insjgU1@individual.net>,
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"johac" <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-1E40A1.21560108012006@news.giganews.com...
snip
Another movie that I saw recently on DVD was 'Downfall' which told of
the last days of Herr Schickelgruber in Berlin. It was another
frightening example of what happens to leaders whose reach exceeds
their
grasp and become so deluded by their own power that they refuse to
recognize their mistakes.
Wasn't that a great (but incredibly chilling) movie? Just watched it
this
past Friday evening.
I agree. I hope it gets nominated for the best foreign film Academy
Award. It describes vividly just how evil and depraved these people were.
So when does the ShrubCo flick get released?
As soon as they get the cameras set up in Cheney's 'undisclosed
location' bunker.
Pshaw! That's easy. It's under the Chicken Ra...mmmmpphhhh.....
You didn't expect that did you? Nobody expects the BushCo inquisition!
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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13 Jan 2006 09:20:43 AM |
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On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 21:55:34 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <2d3ds15vtsivtbcfq449atiq5cpdp565cp@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 22:24:12 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <qchas1tu91dd72qgs7a1n91tnfileetj01@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 22:10:47 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <42fkgrF1insjgU1@individual.net>,
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"johac" <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-1E40A1.21560108012006@news.giganews.com...
snip
Another movie that I saw recently on DVD was 'Downfall' which told of
the last days of Herr Schickelgruber in Berlin. It was another
frightening example of what happens to leaders whose reach exceeds
their
grasp and become so deluded by their own power that they refuse to
recognize their mistakes.
Wasn't that a great (but incredibly chilling) movie? Just watched it
this
past Friday evening.
I agree. I hope it gets nominated for the best foreign film Academy
Award. It describes vividly just how evil and depraved these people were.
So when does the ShrubCo flick get released?
As soon as they get the cameras set up in Cheney's 'undisclosed
location' bunker.
Pshaw! That's easy. It's under the Chicken Ra...mmmmpphhhh.....
You didn't expect that did you? Nobody expects the BushCo inquisition!
[door slams then silence....]
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
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13 Jan 2006 11:25:30 AM |
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On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 07:20:43 -0800, in alt.atheism
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote in
<g9hfs193gl2uuqm3clmu6ha07lco6vkr15@4ax.com>:
On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 21:55:34 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <2d3ds15vtsivtbcfq449atiq5cpdp565cp@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 22:24:12 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <qchas1tu91dd72qgs7a1n91tnfileetj01@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 22:10:47 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <42fkgrF1insjgU1@individual.net>,
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"johac" <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-1E40A1.21560108012006@news.giganews.com...
snip
Another movie that I saw recently on DVD was 'Downfall' which told of
the last days of Herr Schickelgruber in Berlin. It was another
frightening example of what happens to leaders whose reach exceeds
their
grasp and become so deluded by their own power that they refuse to
recognize their mistakes.
Wasn't that a great (but incredibly chilling) movie? Just watched it
this
past Friday evening.
I agree. I hope it gets nominated for the best foreign film Academy
Award. It describes vividly just how evil and depraved these people were.
So when does the ShrubCo flick get released?
As soon as they get the cameras set up in Cheney's 'undisclosed
location' bunker.
Pshaw! That's easy. It's under the Chicken Ra...mmmmpphhhh.....
You didn't expect that did you? Nobody expects the BushCo inquisition!
[door slams then silence....]
Where's my comfy chair?
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14 Jan 2006 01:14:06 AM |
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In article <ujofs19vj7e11vug2pmj211q6lip5ie2b9@4ax.com>,
David Jensen <david@dajensen-family.com> wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 07:20:43 -0800, in alt.atheism
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote in
<g9hfs193gl2uuqm3clmu6ha07lco6vkr15@4ax.com>:
On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 21:55:34 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <2d3ds15vtsivtbcfq449atiq5cpdp565cp@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 22:24:12 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <qchas1tu91dd72qgs7a1n91tnfileetj01@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 22:10:47 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <42fkgrF1insjgU1@individual.net>,
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"johac" <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-1E40A1.21560108012006@news.giganews.com...
snip
Another movie that I saw recently on DVD was 'Downfall' which
told of
the last days of Herr Schickelgruber in Berlin. It was another
frightening example of what happens to leaders whose reach
exceeds
their
grasp and become so deluded by their own power that they refuse
to
recognize their mistakes.
Wasn't that a great (but incredibly chilling) movie? Just watched
it
this
past Friday evening.
I agree. I hope it gets nominated for the best foreign film Academy
Award. It describes vividly just how evil and depraved these people
were.
So when does the ShrubCo flick get released?
As soon as they get the cameras set up in Cheney's 'undisclosed
location' bunker.
Pshaw! That's easy. It's under the Chicken Ra...mmmmpphhhh.....
You didn't expect that did you? Nobody expects the BushCo inquisition!
[door slams then silence....]
Where's my comfy chair?
It's the rack for you!
<Holding up dish rack.>
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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26 Jan 2006 11:31:17 AM |
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In article <jhachmann-1E40A1.21560108012006@news.giganews.com>,
johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote:
Another movie that I saw recently on DVD was 'Downfall' which told of
the last days of Herr Schickelgruber in Berlin. It was another
frightening example of what happens to leaders whose reach exceeds their
grasp and become so deluded by their own power that they refuse to
recognize their mistakes.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
Actually it's fortunate for the rest of us. At the end the Allies were
passing on opportunities to kill Hitler, because he was doing so much
harm to his side or so I've heard.
--
"The power of the Executive to cast a man into prison without formulating any
charge known to the law, and particularly to deny him the judgement of his
peers, is in the highest degree odious and is the foundation of all totali-
tarian government whether Nazi or Communist." -- W. Churchill, Nov 21, 1943
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27 Jan 2006 09:19:28 AM |
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On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 12:31:17 -0500, Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <jhachmann-1E40A1.21560108012006@news.giganews.com>,
johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote:
Another movie that I saw recently on DVD was 'Downfall' which told of
the last days of Herr Schickelgruber in Berlin. It was another
frightening example of what happens to leaders whose reach exceeds their
grasp and become so deluded by their own power that they refuse to
recognize their mistakes.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
Actually it's fortunate for the rest of us. At the end the Allies were
passing on opportunities to kill Hitler, because he was doing so much
harm to his side or so I've heard.
Interesting idea.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
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09 Jan 2006 02:53:44 PM |
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On Sun, 08 Jan 2006 21:56:01 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <2223s1p057enhn14p5bhp3c9n7ehgdu2p3@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
[]
In article <87jur1961v4u9uc7vhauqu61fiogmrvced@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
http://www.religiouswrong.us/calling-all-pagans-its-time-to-fight-back/
May 4, 2005
Calling all Pagans: It’s time to fight back!
Nicholas von Hoffman, New York Observer
En garde!
A piece of treacherous language has made its way into our public
discourse. Where once words such as “religion,” “Christianity” and
“Judaism” were heard, public figures now speak of “persons of faith”
or “people of faith,” “the faith community” and “faith-based.”
Moreover, anything “faith-based” is axiomatically good, and anyone who
questions the presumption is axiomatically bad.
Good article. Sad but true, Atheists and other non-"true believers" are
definitely being painted as the bad guys. I know that it's a frightening
analogy, but when I hear some of these people speak against atheists, I
am reminded of what I read about what Hitler and the Nazis were saying
about the Jews in the 1930s.
Don't forget that pic of that lady listening to Hitler with gleaming
eyes empty of intelligence.
Ever see 'Triumph of the Will'?
No. It was part of an advert possibly for history stuff.
'Triumph of the Will' was the (in)famous documentary made by Leni
Riefenstahl about the big rally held by the Nazis in Nuremberg in 1934.
It's chilling.
I'm sure the mindless mob mentality was vibrant.
It showed women along the parade rout
going orgasmic as AH's car passed by. Whenever I hear of Shrub having
one of his invitation only rallies, I wonder why I am reminded of that
movie?
He's as insane as shickelgruber.
Another movie that I saw recently on DVD was 'Downfall' which told of
the last days of Herr Schickelgruber in Berlin. It was another
frightening example of what happens to leaders whose reach exceeds their
grasp and become so deluded by their own power that they refuse to
recognize their mistakes.
Shrub's on the fast track.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
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11 Jan 2006 12:35:59 AM |
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In article <u7j5s15srssgmgrs6c3dhkopl1otmsjtm5@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sun, 08 Jan 2006 21:56:01 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <2223s1p057enhn14p5bhp3c9n7ehgdu2p3@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
[]
In article <87jur1961v4u9uc7vhauqu61fiogmrvced@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
http://www.religiouswrong.us/calling-all-pagans-its-time-to-fight-bac
k/
May 4, 2005
Calling all Pagans: It’s time to fight back!
Nicholas von Hoffman, New York Observer
En garde!
A piece of treacherous language has made its way into our public
discourse. Where once words such as “religion,” “Christianity” and
“Judaism” were heard, public figures now speak of “persons of faith”
or “people of faith,” “the faith community” and “faith-based.”
Moreover, anything “faith-based” is axiomatically good, and anyone
who
questions the presumption is axiomatically bad.
Good article. Sad but true, Atheists and other non-"true believers"
are
definitely being painted as the bad guys. I know that it's a
frightening
analogy, but when I hear some of these people speak against atheists,
I
am reminded of what I read about what Hitler and the Nazis were saying
about the Jews in the 1930s.
Don't forget that pic of that lady listening to Hitler with gleaming
eyes empty of intelligence.
Ever see 'Triumph of the Will'?
No. It was part of an advert possibly for history stuff.
'Triumph of the Will' was the (in)famous documentary made by Leni
Riefenstahl about the big rally held by the Nazis in Nuremberg in 1934.
It's chilling.
I'm sure the mindless mob mentality was vibrant.
Exactly. Since i knew what was to happen, I couldn't but think of all
those who participated as sheep about to be led to the slaughter.
It showed women along the parade rout
going orgasmic as AH's car passed by. Whenever I hear of Shrub having
one of his invitation only rallies, I wonder why I am reminded of that
movie?
He's as insane as shickelgruber.
Another movie that I saw recently on DVD was 'Downfall' which told of
the last days of Herr Schickelgruber in Berlin. It was another
frightening example of what happens to leaders whose reach exceeds their
grasp and become so deluded by their own power that they refuse to
recognize their mistakes.
Shrub's on the fast track.
That's fer sure.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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26 Jan 2006 11:32:09 AM |
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In article <jhachmann-EF0040.22355910012006@news.giganews.com>,
johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote:
In article <u7j5s15srssgmgrs6c3dhkopl1otmsjtm5@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sun, 08 Jan 2006 21:56:01 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <2223s1p057enhn14p5bhp3c9n7ehgdu2p3@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
[]
In article <87jur1961v4u9uc7vhauqu61fiogmrvced@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
http://www.religiouswrong.us/calling-all-pagans-its-time-to-fight-b
ac
k/
May 4, 2005
Calling all Pagans: It’s time to fight back!
Nicholas von Hoffman, New York Observer
En garde!
A piece of treacherous language has made its way into our public
discourse. Where once words such as “religion,” “Christianity” and
“Judaism” were heard, public figures now speak of “persons of
faith”
or “people of faith,” “the faith community” and “faith-based.”
Moreover, anything “faith-based” is axiomatically good, and anyone
who
questions the presumption is axiomatically bad.
Good article. Sad but true, Atheists and other non-"true believers"
are
definitely being painted as the bad guys. I know that it's a
frightening
analogy, but when I hear some of these people speak against
atheists,
I
am reminded of what I read about what Hitler and the Nazis were
saying
about the Jews in the 1930s.
Don't forget that pic of that lady listening to Hitler with gleaming
eyes empty of intelligence.
Ever see 'Triumph of the Will'?
No. It was part of an advert possibly for history stuff.
'Triumph of the Will' was the (in)famous documentary made by Leni
Riefenstahl about the big rally held by the Nazis in Nuremberg in 1934.
It's chilling.
I'm sure the mindless mob mentality was vibrant.
Exactly. Since i knew what was to happen, I couldn't but think of all
those who participated as sheep about to be led to the slaughter.
It showed women along the parade rout
going orgasmic as AH's car passed by. Whenever I hear of Shrub having
one of his invitation only rallies, I wonder why I am reminded of that
movie?
He's as insane as shickelgruber.
Another movie that I saw recently on DVD was 'Downfall' which told of
the last days of Herr Schickelgruber in Berlin. It was another
frightening example of what happens to leaders whose reach exceeds their
grasp and become so deluded by their own power that they refuse to
recognize their mistakes.
Shrub's on the fast track.
That's fer sure.
Has he started taking speed yet?
--
"The power of the Executive to cast a man into prison without formulating any
charge known to the law, and particularly to deny him the judgement of his
peers, is in the highest degree odious and is the foundation of all totali-
tarian government whether Nazi or Communist." -- W. Churchill, Nov 21, 1943
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27 Jan 2006 09:18:32 AM |
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On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 12:32:09 -0500, Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <jhachmann-EF0040.22355910012006@news.giganews.com>,
johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote:
In article <u7j5s15srssgmgrs6c3dhkopl1otmsjtm5@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
[]
It showed women along the parade rout
going orgasmic as AH's car passed by. Whenever I hear of Shrub having
one of his invitation only rallies, I wonder why I am reminded of that
movie?
He's as insane as shickelgruber.
Another movie that I saw recently on DVD was 'Downfall' which told of
the last days of Herr Schickelgruber in Berlin. It was another
frightening example of what happens to leaders whose reach exceeds their
grasp and become so deluded by their own power that they refuse to
recognize their mistakes.
Shrub's on the fast track.
That's fer sure.
Has he started taking speed yet?
I don't put anything past the braindead one.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
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11 Jan 2006 11:52:34 AM |
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On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 22:35:59 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <u7j5s15srssgmgrs6c3dhkopl1otmsjtm5@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sun, 08 Jan 2006 21:56:01 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <2223s1p057enhn14p5bhp3c9n7ehgdu2p3@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
[]
In article <87jur1961v4u9uc7vhauqu61fiogmrvced@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
http://www.religiouswrong.us/calling-all-pagans-its-time-to-fight-bac
k/
May 4, 2005
Calling all Pagans: It’s time to fight back!
Nicholas von Hoffman, New York Observer
En garde!
A piece of treacherous language has made its way into our public
discourse. Where once words such as “religion,” “Christianity” and
“Judaism” were heard, public figures now speak of “persons of faith”
or “people of faith,” “the faith community” and “faith-based.”
Moreover, anything “faith-based” is axiomatically good, and anyone
who
questions the presumption is axiomatically bad.
Good article. Sad but true, Atheists and other non-"true believers"
are
definitely being painted as the bad guys. I know that it's a
frightening
analogy, but when I hear some of these people speak against atheists,
I
am reminded of what I read about what Hitler and the Nazis were saying
about the Jews in the 1930s.
Don't forget that pic of that lady listening to Hitler with gleaming
eyes empty of intelligence.
Ever see 'Triumph of the Will'?
No. It was part of an advert possibly for history stuff.
'Triumph of the Will' was the (in)famous documentary made by Leni
Riefenstahl about the big rally held by the Nazis in Nuremberg in 1934.
It's chilling.
I'm sure the mindless mob mentality was vibrant.
Exactly. Since i knew what was to happen, I couldn't but think of all
those who participated as sheep about to be led to the slaughter.
For which you can thank Thomas Watson the then President of IBM.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
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12 Jan 2006 12:30:35 AM |
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In article <6ehas1tvam2u0h9a3754vqrukj01ukol4p@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 22:35:59 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <u7j5s15srssgmgrs6c3dhkopl1otmsjtm5@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sun, 08 Jan 2006 21:56:01 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <2223s1p057enhn14p5bhp3c9n7ehgdu2p3@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
[]
In article <87jur1961v4u9uc7vhauqu61fiogmrvced@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
http://www.religiouswrong.us/calling-all-pagans-its-time-to-fight-
bac
k/
May 4, 2005
Calling all Pagans: It’s time to fight back!
Nicholas von Hoffman, New York Observer
En garde!
A piece of treacherous language has made its way into our public
discourse. Where once words such as “religion,” “Christianity”
and
“Judaism” were heard, public figures now speak of “persons of
faith”
or “people of faith,” “the faith community” and “faith-based.”
Moreover, anything “faith-based” is axiomatically good, and
anyone
who
questions the presumption is axiomatically bad.
Good article. Sad but true, Atheists and other non-"true believers"
are
definitely being painted as the bad guys. I know that it's a
frightening
analogy, but when I hear some of these people speak against
atheists,
I
am reminded of what I read about what Hitler and the Nazis were
saying
about the Jews in the 1930s.
Don't forget that pic of that lady listening to Hitler with gleaming
eyes empty of intelligence.
Ever see 'Triumph of the Will'?
No. It was part of an advert possibly for history stuff.
'Triumph of the Will' was the (in)famous documentary made by Leni
Riefenstahl about the big rally held by the Nazis in Nuremberg in 1934.
It's chilling.
I'm sure the mindless mob mentality was vibrant.
Exactly. Since i knew what was to happen, I couldn't but think of all
those who participated as sheep about to be led to the slaughter.
For which you can thank Thomas Watson the then President of IBM.
And don't forget Grandpa Bush.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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12 Jan 2006 11:13:03 AM |
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On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 22:30:35 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <6ehas1tvam2u0h9a3754vqrukj01ukol4p@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
[]
In article <87jur1961v4u9uc7vhauqu61fiogmrvced@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
http://www.religiouswrong.us/calling-all-pagans-its-time-to-fight-
bac
k/
May 4, 2005
Calling all Pagans: It’s time to fight back!
Nicholas von Hoffman, New York Observer
En garde!
A piece of treacherous language has made its way into our public
discourse. Where once words such as “religion,” “Christianity”
and
“Judaism” were heard, public figures now speak of “persons of
faith”
or “people of faith,” “the faith community” and “faith-based.”
Moreover, anything “faith-based” is axiomatically good, and
anyone
who
questions the presumption is axiomatically bad.
Good article. Sad but true, Atheists and other non-"true believers"
are
definitely being painted as the bad guys. I know that it's a
frightening
analogy, but when I hear some of these people speak against
atheists,
I
am reminded of what I read about what Hitler and the Nazis were
saying
about the Jews in the 1930s.
Don't forget that pic of that lady listening to Hitler with gleaming
eyes empty of intelligence.
Ever see 'Triumph of the Will'?
No. It was part of an advert possibly for history stuff.
'Triumph of the Will' was the (in)famous documentary made by Leni
Riefenstahl about the big rally held by the Nazis in Nuremberg in 1934.
It's chilling.
I'm sure the mindless mob mentality was vibrant.
Exactly. Since i knew what was to happen, I couldn't but think of all
those who participated as sheep about to be led to the slaughter.
For which you can thank Thomas Watson the then President of IBM.
And don't forget Grandpa Bush.
He wasn't even an ingrown follicle on the arse of the debacle.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
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