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"Nerd Gerl" |
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24 Feb 2004 03:32:26 PM |
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Calling Baruch's Polished Logical Mind |
Denis Loubet wrote in message ...
"Nerd Gerl" <nerdgerl@rcip.com> wrote in message
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Did I do this right? (for logic's sake)
Let Space = A
Let Human's mind = B
Let Life, Environments, and Events = C
Let God's mind = D (or a freakin' huge B)
1. To establish that the human mind is an appropriate model
for the universe, accept that...
a. If A contains C, and B contains C, then A = B.
But of course, this cannot be accepted.
B cannot contain C.
B can contain representations of C, but representations of C are not C.
B containing C is a metaphore.
Metaphores are not conducive to coherent logic.
Ok, let C(Rep) = Representations of C
If C can make B sad, and C(rep) can make B sad, then C(Rep) = C
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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| Title: Re: Calling Baruch's Polished Logical Mind |
24 Feb 2004 09:22:15 PM |
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"Nerd Gerl" <nerdgerl@rcip.com> wrote in message
news:c45b61ca.0402241332.34d877ea@posting.google.com...
Denis Loubet wrote in message ...
"Nerd Gerl" <nerdgerl@rcip.com> wrote in message
news:c45b61ca.0402241148.4f69393f@posting.google.com...
Did I do this right? (for logic's sake)
Let Space = A
Let Human's mind = B
Let Life, Environments, and Events = C
Let God's mind = D (or a freakin' huge B)
1. To establish that the human mind is an appropriate model
for the universe, accept that...
a. If A contains C, and B contains C, then A = B.
But of course, this cannot be accepted.
B cannot contain C.
B can contain representations of C, but representations of C are not C.
B containing C is a metaphore.
Metaphores are not conducive to coherent logic.
Ok, let C(Rep) = Representations of C
If C can make B sad, and C(rep) can make B sad, then C(Rep) = C
Negative. C cannot make B sad. Only C(rep) can make B sad, because C(rep) is
the only thing B can operate upon.
Now, mind you, C can cause C(rep), and B can operate upon that, but B cannot
operate directly upon C.
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
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| User: "David Vestal" |
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| Title: Re: Calling Baruch's Polished Logical Mind |
24 Feb 2004 04:56:17 PM |
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(Nerd Gerl) wrote in
news:c45b61ca.0402241332.34d877ea@posting.google.com:
Denis Loubet wrote in message ...
"Nerd Gerl" < > wrote in message
news:c45b61ca.0402241148.4f69393f@posting.google.com...
Did I do this right? (for logic's sake)
Let Space = A
Let Human's mind = B
Let Life, Environments, and Events = C
Let God's mind = D (or a freakin' huge B)
1. To establish that the human mind is an appropriate model
for the universe, accept that...
a. If A contains C, and B contains C, then A = B.
But of course, this cannot be accepted.
B cannot contain C.
B can contain representations of C, but representations of C are not C.
B containing C is a metaphore.
Metaphores are not conducive to coherent logic.
Ok, let C(Rep) = Representations of C
If C can make B sad, and C(rep) can make B sad, then C(Rep) = C
Not so. Let's say I went through a bad breakup. Either the former
girlfriend OR a representation of her might have the power to make me
sad, but the two are far from equivalent. You can't prove your argument
just by expressing it in a format reminiscent of a proof.
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