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"maff" |
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10 Dec 2005 08:21:34 AM |
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Calls grow for withdrawal of Nobel prize |
Calls grow for withdrawal of Nobel prize
http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,2763,1664215,00.html
· Israeli group objects to award for 'warmongers'
· Game theory used for political bias, say critics
Chris McGreal in Jerusalem
Saturday December 10, 2005
The Guardian
A group of Israeli intellectuals and activists has demanded that the
Nobel prize committee withdraw the award for economics to be made today
to an Israeli mathematician and his American colleague on the grounds
that they are "warmongers".
The economics prize is to be presented to Robert Aumann of Hebrew
University in Jerusalem and Thomas Schelling of Maryland University in
recognition of their "having enhanced our understanding of conflict and
cooperation through game-theory analysis", a mathematical study of how
individuals and governments react to other people's actions including
in war.
Nobel
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/a01dcb7b9f988d2c
Chris McGreal
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/e26f462cdcfdf3bd
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Calls grow for withdrawal of Nobel prize |
10 Dec 2005 02:42:29 PM |
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maff wrote:
Calls grow for withdrawal of Nobel prize
http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,2763,1664215,00.html
· Israeli group objects to award for 'warmongers'
· Game theory used for political bias, say critics
Chris McGreal in Jerusalem
Saturday December 10, 2005
The Guardian
A group of Israeli intellectuals and activists has demanded that the
Nobel prize committee withdraw the award for economics to be made today
to an Israeli mathematician and his American colleague on the grounds
that they are "warmongers".
The economics prize is to be presented to Robert Aumann of Hebrew
University in Jerusalem and Thomas Schelling of Maryland University in
recognition of their "having enhanced our understanding of conflict and
cooperation through game-theory analysis", a mathematical study of how
individuals and governments react to other people's actions including
in war.
Nobel
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/a01dcb7b9f988d2c
Chris McGreal
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/e26f462cdcfdf3bd
Hmmm. Should we struggle to remain ignorant about a field if it seems
to be a moral problem? Wouldn't we want to know how it works, and why
it comes about? I can't imagine retroactively withdrawing a Noble prize
just because it later turns out that the theory behind it is wrong,
either. Are there provisions in the Noble rules for withdrawing a
prize? Do such rules exist?
I would think the only good case would be if fraud were established; if
significant information came to light later that would have prevented
the prize from being given nthe first place. Do I think they always
make the right decision? Hell, no!
I mean, give the peace prize to Henry Kissinger? What were they
thinking?
Kermit
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| User: "Mike Dworetsky" |
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| Title: Re: Calls grow for withdrawal of Nobel prize |
10 Dec 2005 03:42:33 PM |
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<unrestrained_hand@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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maff wrote:
Calls grow for withdrawal of Nobel prize
http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,2763,1664215,00.html
· Israeli group objects to award for 'warmongers'
· Game theory used for political bias, say critics
Chris McGreal in Jerusalem
Saturday December 10, 2005
The Guardian
A group of Israeli intellectuals and activists has demanded that the
Nobel prize committee withdraw the award for economics to be made today
to an Israeli mathematician and his American colleague on the grounds
that they are "warmongers".
The economics prize is to be presented to Robert Aumann of Hebrew
University in Jerusalem and Thomas Schelling of Maryland University in
recognition of their "having enhanced our understanding of conflict and
cooperation through game-theory analysis", a mathematical study of how
individuals and governments react to other people's actions including
in war.
Nobel
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/a01dcb7b9f988d2c
Chris McGreal
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/e26f462cdcfdf3bd
Hmmm. Should we struggle to remain ignorant about a field if it seems
to be a moral problem? Wouldn't we want to know how it works, and why
it comes about? I can't imagine retroactively withdrawing a Noble prize
just because it later turns out that the theory behind it is wrong,
either. Are there provisions in the Noble rules for withdrawing a
prize? Do such rules exist?
I would think the only good case would be if fraud were established; if
significant information came to light later that would have prevented
the prize from being given nthe first place. Do I think they always
make the right decision? Hell, no!
I mean, give the peace prize to Henry Kissinger? What were they
thinking?
Kermit
"When Kissinger can get the Nobel Peace Prize, what is there left for
satire?"
- Tom Lehrer
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Mike Dworetsky
(Remove "pants" spamblock to send e-mail)
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: Calls grow for withdrawal of Nobel prize |
10 Dec 2005 04:18:28 PM |
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"Mike Dworetsky" <platinum198@pants.btinternet.com> wrote in
news:dnfi49$9qj$1@nwrdmz01.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com:
<unrestrained_hand@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1134247349.040476.3520@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
<...>
I mean, give the peace prize to Henry Kissinger? What were they
thinking?
Kermit
"When Kissinger can get the Nobel Peace Prize, what is there left for
satire?"
Giving one to Yasser Arafat comes to mind.
Or Mohammad "I don't think we should go to enforcement" Baradei.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"I can say one thing about these plans of ours: They are not being
decided by the typewriter strategists who expound their views in the
press or on the radio." - FDR
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Calls grow for withdrawal of Nobel prize |
10 Dec 2005 08:56:16 AM |
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maff wrote:
Calls grow for withdrawal of Nobel prize
http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,2763,1664215,00.html
· Israeli group objects to award for 'warmongers'
· Game theory used for political bias, say critics
Chris McGreal in Jerusalem
Saturday December 10, 2005
The Guardian
A group of Israeli intellectuals and activists has demanded that the
Nobel prize committee withdraw the award for economics to be made today
to an Israeli mathematician and his American colleague on the grounds
that they are "warmongers".
The economics prize is to be presented to Robert Aumann of Hebrew
University in Jerusalem and Thomas Schelling of Maryland University in
recognition of their "having enhanced our understanding of conflict and
cooperation through game-theory analysis", a mathematical study of how
individuals and governments react to other people's actions including
in war.
Can you say, "The Bell Curve"? I knew you could.
Bob Dog
Atheist #153 = 1^3 + 5^3 + 3^3
EAC's chief cook and brainwasher
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"Sooner or later the despairing Churches will try to get
a world-alliance with something like Fascist tyranny to
check the growth of Atheism. It is their one hope."
- Joseph McCabe
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