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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Cannibals for Christ"
Date: 25 Nov 2003 05:15:21 PM
Object: Can Catholics be Vegans?
Since communion is a form of cannibalism, I think this would violate
the ethics of veganism.
.

User: "Denis Loubet"

Title: Re: Re: Can Catholics be Vegans? 03 Dec 2003 04:52:49 PM
"Beowulf" <beowulf_is_not_here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:nl4ssvssnb49d58jbe1fghtj7h1htc2hjd@4ax.com...

On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 00:29:16 GMT, Steve Knight <wooly@onic.net>
ejaculated:

On 25 Nov 2003 15:15:21 -0800,


(Cannibals for Christ) wrote:

You can only be a vegan if you're from the constellation Lyrae. It's the
brightest star in that constellation, and the 5th brightest in the night
sky. Spectral type A0Va.
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
.

User: "Spammers Blow"

Title: Re: Can Catholics be Vegans? 08 Dec 2003 10:45:38 PM
On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 11:45:47 -0500, Beowulf
<beowulf_is_not_here@hotmail.com> wrote:

What I really don't get about Catholics

For someone with an epic name Beowulf, you sure know ***** about what
you're talking about. Why don't you find out what Catholics believe
(I'll give you a hint, it's called transubstantiation) and then you
won't ask such ignorant questions.

is that the wafer is still
obviously a cracker and that the wine is still a Merlot or Chianti or
whatever. Crackers taste nothing like meat and wine tastes nothing
like blood.

I suppose they could always argue that god flesh tastes like a cracker
and god blood tastes like wine, but even they have to see that this is
an obvious begging of the question.

.
User: "Beowulf"

Title: Re: Re: Can Catholics be Vegans? 12 Dec 2003 09:05:18 AM
On Mon, 08 Dec 2003 22:45:38 -0600, Spammers Blow <you@wish.com>
ejaculated:



On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 11:45:47 -0500, Beowulf
<beowulf_is_not_here@hotmail.com> wrote:


What I really don't get about Catholics


For someone with an epic name Beowulf, you sure know ***** about what
you're talking about. Why don't you find out what Catholics believe
(I'll give you a hint, it's called transubstantiation) and then you
won't ask such ignorant questions.

Hey, *****. I do know what Catholics believe. If you'd care to
read your own statements of theology (such as outlined at the Catholic
Encyclopedia), you'd know that transubstantiation entails the physical
changing of the elements into flesh and blood. In other words, it
isn't metaphorical.
For trying to paint yourself as a religious scholar you've seemed to
have forgotten that one of the key points of contention between the
Protestants and the Catholics (starting in the Reformation and through
the present day) is about transubstantiation. The Protestants almost
unanimously see it as metaphorical in one way or another and the
Catholics do not.
--
<http://www20.brinkster.com/beowulf9/gottod/Jesus%20Hates%20The%20Little%20Children.html>
.
User: "Spammers Blow"

Title: Re: Can Catholics be Vegans? 13 Dec 2003 02:30:40 PM

Hey, *****.

Ok.

I do know what Catholics believe.

When will you show us this cuz you haven't yet.

If you'd care to
read your own statements of theology (such as outlined at the Catholic
Encyclopedia), you'd know that transubstantiation entails the physical
changing of the elements into flesh and blood.

Guess again dumbass. I thought you said you read that entry?

In other words, it
isn't metaphorical.

OK, you got one right.


For trying to paint yourself as a religious scholar you've seemed to
have forgotten that one of the key points of contention between the
Protestants and the Catholics (starting in the Reformation and through
the present day) is about transubstantiation. The Protestants almost
unanimously see it as metaphorical in one way or another and the
Catholics do not.

What? How have I forgotten that? Maybe once you understand what
Catholics TRULY believe, maybe you can make a statement about what I
may or may not have forgotten.
.



User: "No 33 Secretary"

Title: Re: Can Catholics be Vegans? 25 Nov 2003 06:36:32 PM
Steve Knight <wooly@onic.net> wrote in
news:1is7svkn69klu32iqmkpm5p9lvad1p7kv5@4ax.com:

On 25 Nov 2003 15:15:21 -0800,


(Cannibals for Christ) wrote:

Since communion is a form of cannibalism, I think this would violate
the ethics of veganism.


Communion always gave me the creeps. Ever since the time I asked
this Catholic about it. I asked him why did they symbolically eat
their saviors body. He got pissed and said there was nothing
'symbolic' about it. It really was his flesh, in every sense of the
word

I said, 'does it taste like chicken?'

Then he storms off. Me and my conversation stoppers...

Well, of _course_ he got *****. Everybody knows human flesh tastes
like pork, not chicken.
--
Terry Austin
taustin@hyperbooks.com
www.hyperbooks.com
Roleplaying Stuff
.

User: "christopherjt"

Title: Re: Can Catholics be Vegans? 26 Nov 2003 06:23:52 AM
Your implications of your understanding are your own. What do you eat? Is
your own
"Steve Knight" <wooly@onic.net> wrote in message
news:1is7svkn69klu32iqmkpm5p9lvad1p7kv5@4ax.com...

On 25 Nov 2003 15:15:21 -0800,


(Cannibals for Christ) wrote:

Since communion is a form of cannibalism, I think this would violate
the ethics of veganism.


Communion always gave me the creeps. Ever since the time I asked
this Catholic about it. I asked him why did they symbolically eat
their saviors body. He got pissed and said there was nothing
'symbolic' about it. It really was his flesh, in every sense of the
word

I said, 'does it taste like chicken?'

Then he storms off. Me and my conversation stoppers...

Warlord Steve
BAAWA
www.sonic.net/~wooly

.
User: "christopherjt"

Title: Re: Can Catholics be Vegans? 26 Nov 2003 06:31:13 AM
The implications are moot.
Would'st thou eat thyself?
"christopherjt" <christopherjt@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
news:3fc49b5a$0$20308$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...

Your implications of your understanding are your own. What do you eat? Is
your own


"Steve Knight" <wooly@onic.net> wrote in message
news:1is7svkn69klu32iqmkpm5p9lvad1p7kv5@4ax.com...

On 25 Nov 2003 15:15:21 -0800,


(Cannibals for Christ) wrote:

Since communion is a form of cannibalism, I think this would violate
the ethics of veganism.


Communion always gave me the creeps. Ever since the time I asked
this Catholic about it. I asked him why did they symbolically eat
their saviors body. He got pissed and said there was nothing
'symbolic' about it. It really was his flesh, in every sense of the
word

I said, 'does it taste like chicken?'

Then he storms off. Me and my conversation stoppers...

Warlord Steve
BAAWA
www.sonic.net/~wooly



.

User: "Tuesday Knight"

Title: Re: Can Catholics be Vegans? 02 Dec 2003 12:55:11 PM
Um Frodo... Eyes up HERE....
___
/uesday
/<night
On 11/26/03 7:23 AM, christopherjt at
wrote:

Your implications of your understanding are your own. What do you eat? Is
your own


"Steve Knight" <wooly@onic.net> wrote in message
news:1is7svkn69klu32iqmkpm5p9lvad1p7kv5@4ax.com...

On 25 Nov 2003 15:15:21 -0800,


(Cannibals for Christ) wrote:

Since communion is a form of cannibalism, I think this would violate
the ethics of veganism.


Communion always gave me the creeps. Ever since the time I asked
this Catholic about it. I asked him why did they symbolically eat
their saviors body. He got pissed and said there was nothing
'symbolic' about it. It really was his flesh, in every sense of the
word

I said, 'does it taste like chicken?'

Then he storms off. Me and my conversation stoppers...

Warlord Steve
BAAWA
www.sonic.net/~wooly



.
User: "Hecate100"

Title: Re: Can Catholics be Vegans? 02 Dec 2003 01:50:28 PM
"Tuesday Knight" <tuesday@hellmouthcentral.com> wrote in message
news:BBF24A3F.572CC%tuesday@hellmouthcentral.com...

Um Frodo... Eyes up HERE....

*applause*
Love & Laughter,
Nightshade
.
User: "Tuesday Knight"

Title: Re: Can Catholics be Vegans? 02 Dec 2003 04:15:01 PM
TeeHee!
___
/uesday
/<night ...it is a gift.
On 12/2/03 2:50 PM, Hecate100 at mothernightshade@at@notsohotmail.com wrote:


"Tuesday Knight" <tuesday@hellmouthcentral.com> wrote in message
news:BBF24A3F.572CC%tuesday@hellmouthcentral.com...

Um Frodo... Eyes up HERE....


*applause*

Love & Laughter,
Nightshade



.
User: "Misty"

Title: Re: Can Catholics be Vegans? 03 Dec 2003 02:13:05 AM
,
Tuesday Knight wrote:

TeeHee!
___
/uesday
/<night ...it is a gift.


On 12/2/03 2:50 PM, Hecate100 at mothernightshade@at@notsohotmail.com wrote:


"Tuesday Knight" <tuesday@hellmouthcentral.com> wrote in message
news:BBF24A3F.572CC%tuesday@hellmouthcentral.com...

Um Frodo... Eyes up HERE....


*applause*

Love & Laughter,
Nightshade





.
User: "Tuesday Knight"

Title: Re: Can Catholics be Vegans? 03 Dec 2003 12:28:36 PM
Isnt that cute? She tries so hard to make words.... dontcha just love
her????
___
/uesday
/<night
On 12/3/03 3:13 AM, Misty at ""yardholler"@Nospam,charter.net wrote:

,

Tuesday Knight wrote:

TeeHee!
___
/uesday
/<night ...it is a gift.


On 12/2/03 2:50 PM, Hecate100 at mothernightshade@at@notsohotmail.com wrote:


"Tuesday Knight" <tuesday@hellmouthcentral.com> wrote in message
news:BBF24A3F.572CC%tuesday@hellmouthcentral.com...

Um Frodo... Eyes up HERE....


*applause*

Love & Laughter,
Nightshade






.
User: "Zsarnok"

Title: Re: Can Catholics be Vegans? 08 Dec 2003 06:40:18 PM
Vocabulary is built one symbol at a time. Soon she's gonna find the
ones that represent sound.
Zsarnok
Tuesday Knight wrote:

Isnt that cute? She tries so hard to make words.... dontcha just love
her????
___
/uesday
/<night


On 12/3/03 3:13 AM, Misty at ""yardholler"@Nospam,charter.net wrote:


,

Tuesday Knight wrote:

TeeHee!
___
/uesday
/<night ...it is a gift.


On 12/2/03 2:50 PM, Hecate100 at mothernightshade@at@notsohotmail.com wrote:



"Tuesday Knight" <tuesday@hellmouthcentral.com> wrote in message
news:BBF24A3F.572CC%tuesday@hellmouthcentral.com...


Um Frodo... Eyes up HERE....


*applause*

Love & Laughter,
Nightshade






.





User: "David Chariot"

Title: Re: Can Catholics be Vegans? 02 Dec 2003 09:46:00 PM
Tuesday Knight wrote:
http://www.google.co.nz/groups?as_q=gospel%20peace&safe=images&ie=ISO-8859-1&as_ugroup=alt.christnet.christianlife&as_uauthors=chariot&as_drrb=b&as_mind=12&as_minm=6&as_miny=1981&as_maxd=15&as_maxm=9&as_maxy=2003&lr=&hl=en

Um Frodo... Eyes up HERE....

Now, I have a question...
Why did Abel kill the Lamb? <> Revelation 13:8
http://www.google.co.nz/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&frame=right&th=17e6e3da8dabcc6c&seekm=3FC7DB33.E82C4578%40xtra.co.nz#link1
Thy people
also shall be
all righteous:
they shall
inherit the
land for ever,
the branch
of my planting,
the work of
my hands,
that I
may be
glorified.
For thou art an holy people
unto the LORD thy God:
the LORD thy God
hath chosen
thee to be a special people
unto himself,
above all people
that are upon
the face of the earth.
And to make thee high
above all nations
which he hath made,
in praise,
and in name,
and in honour;
and that thou mayest be an holy people
unto the LORD thy God, as he hath spoken.
The LORD shall establish thee an holy people
unto himself, as he hath sworn unto thee, if
thou shalt keep the commandments of the LORD thy God,
and walk in his ways. But ye are a chosen generation,
a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people;
that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath
called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:

No lion
shall
be
there,
nor
any
ravenous
beast
shall
go
up
thereon,
it
shall
not
be
found
there;
but
the
redeemed
shall
walk
there:
Let
the
redeemed
of
the
LORD
say
so,
whom
he
hath
redeemed
from
the
hand
of
the
enemy;
Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible
things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received
by tradition from your fathers; But with the precious blood
of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot: And
they sung a new song,
saying,
Thou art worthy to take the book,
and to open the seals thereof:
for thou wast slain,
and hast redeemed us
to God by thy blood out of every kindred,
and tongue, and people, and nation;
I am sought of them that asked not for me;
I am found of them that sought me not:
I said,
Behold me,
behold me,
unto a nation
that was not called by my name.
For thus saith the Lord GOD;
Behold,
I, even I, will both search my sheep,
and seek them out.
As a shepherd seeketh out his flock
in the day
that he is among his sheep that are scattered;
so will I seek out my sheep,
and will deliver them out
of all places where
they have been scattered
in the cloudy and dark day.
And I will bring them out
from the people,
and gather them from the countries,
and will bring them to their own land,
and feed them upon the mountains of Israel
by the rivers,
and in all
the inhabited places of the country.
I will feed them in a good pasture,
and upon the high mountains
of Israel shall their
fold be: there
shall they
lie in a good fold,
and in a fat pasture
shall they feed
upon the
mountains
of Israel.
I will feed my flock,
and I will cause them to lie down,
saith the Lord GOD.
I will seek that which was lost,
and bring again that which was driven away,
and will bind up that which was broken,
and will strengthen that which was sick:
but I will destroy the fat and the strong;
I will feed them with judgment.
For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost.
How think ye?
if a man have an hundred sheep,
and one of them be gone astray,
doth he not leave the ninety and nine,
and goeth into the mountains,
and seeketh that which is gone astray?
And if so be that he find it,
verily I say unto you,
he rejoiceth more of that sheep,
than of the ninety and nine which went not astray.
What man of you,
having an hundred sheep,
if he lose one of them,
doth not leave the ninety and nine in the wilderness,
and go after that which is lost,
until he find it?
And when he hath found it,
he layeth it on his shoulders,
rejoicing.
For
the Son of man
is come to seek
and to save that which was lost.
But
the
hour
cometh,
and now is,
when the true worshippers
shall worship the Father
in spirit and in truth:
for the Father seeketh
such to worship him.
And other
sheep I have,
which are not of
this fold: them also
I must bring, and they
shall hear my voice;
and there shall
be one fold,
and one
shepherd.
Thou
shalt no
more be
termed
Forsaken;
neither shall thy land any more be termed Desolate:
but thou shalt be called Hephzibah,
and thy land Beulah:
for the LORD delighteth in thee,
and thy land shall be married.
And I say also unto thee,
That thou art Peter,
and upon this rock I will build my church;
and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
Teaching them to observe all things
whatsoever I have commanded you:
and,
lo,
I am
with you
alway, even
unto the end
of the world.
Amen.
Let your
conversation
be without
covetousness;
and be content
with such things
as ye have: for he
hath said, I will
never leave thee,
nor forsake thee.

___
/uesday
/<night

On 11/26/03 7:23 AM, christopherjt at

wrote:

Your implications of your understanding are your own. What do you eat? Is
your own

http://www.google.co.nz/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&threadm=3F0AB22A.2952CE6C%40hotmail.com&rnum=1&prev=/groups%3Fsafe%3Dimages%26ie%3DISO-8859-1%26as_ugroup%3Dalt.bible%26as_usubject%3Dvegan%26as_uauthors%3Dchariot%2520%26lr%3D%26hl%3Den
Any one can be a vegan? Are you or aren't you? I AM that i am.

"Steve Knight" <wooly@onic.net> wrote in message
news:1is7svkn69klu32iqmkpm5p9lvad1p7kv5@4ax.com...

On 25 Nov 2003 15:15:21 -0800,


(Cannibals for Christ) wrote:

Since communion is a form of cannibalism, I think this would violate
the ethics of veganism.


Communion always gave me the creeps. Ever since the time I asked
this Catholic about it. I asked him why did they symbolically eat
their saviors body. He got pissed and said there was nothing
'symbolic' about it. It really was his flesh, in every sense of the
word

I said, 'does it taste like chicken?'

Then he storms off. Me and my conversation stoppers...

Warlord Steve
BAAWA
www.sonic.net/~wooly



.
User: "Misty"

Title: Re: Can Catholics be Vegans? 03 Dec 2003 02:09:00 AM
David Chariot wrote:


Tuesday Knight wrote:

http://www.google.co.nz/groups?as_q=gospel%20peace&safe=images&ie=ISO-8859-1&as_ugroup=alt.christnet.christianlife&as_uauthors=chariot&as_drrb=b&as_mind=12&as_minm=6&as_miny=1981&as_maxd=15&as_maxm=9&as_maxy=2003&lr=&hl=en


Um Frodo... Eyes up HERE....



Now, I have a question...

Why did Abel kill the Lamb? <> Revelation 13:8

http://www.google.co.nz/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&frame=right&th=17e6e3da8dabcc6c&seekm=3FC7DB33.E82C4578%40xtra.co.nz#link1


Thy people
also shall be
all righteous:
they shall
inherit the
land for ever,
the branch
of my planting,
the work of
my hands,
that I
may be
glorified.
For thou art an holy people
unto the LORD thy God:
the LORD thy God
hath chosen
thee to be a special people
unto himself,
above all people
that are upon
the face of the earth.
And to make thee high
above all nations
which he hath made,
in praise,
and in name,
and in honour;
and that thou mayest be an holy people
unto the LORD thy God, as he hath spoken.
The LORD shall establish thee an holy people
unto himself, as he hath sworn unto thee, if
thou shalt keep the commandments of the LORD thy God,
and walk in his ways. But ye are a chosen generation,
a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people;
that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath
called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:

No lion
shall
be
there,
nor
any
ravenous
beast
shall
go
up
thereon,
it
shall
not
be
found
there;
but
the
redeemed
shall
walk
there:
Let
the
redeemed
of
the
LORD
say
so,
whom
he
hath
redeemed
from
the
hand
of
the
enemy;
Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible
things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received
by tradition from your fathers; But with the precious blood
of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot: And
they sung a new song,
saying,
Thou art worthy to take the book,
and to open the seals thereof:
for thou wast slain,
and hast redeemed us
to God by thy blood out of every kindred,
and tongue, and people, and nation;
I am sought of them that asked not for me;
I am found of them that sought me not:
I said,
Behold me,
behold me,
unto a nation
that was not called by my name.
For thus saith the Lord GOD;
Behold,
I, even I, will both search my sheep,
and seek them out.
As a shepherd seeketh out his flock
in the day
that he is among his sheep that are scattered;
so will I seek out my sheep,
and will deliver them out
of all places where
they have been scattered
in the cloudy and dark day.
And I will bring them out
from the people,
and gather them from the countries,
and will bring them to their own land,
and feed them upon the mountains of Israel
by the rivers,
and in all
the inhabited places of the country.
I will feed them in a good pasture,
and upon the high mountains
of Israel shall their
fold be: there
shall they
lie in a good fold,
and in a fat pasture
shall they feed
upon the
mountains
of Israel.
I will feed my flock,
and I will cause them to lie down,
saith the Lord GOD.
I will seek that which was lost,
and bring again that which was driven away,
and will bind up that which was broken,
and will strengthen that which was sick:
but I will destroy the fat and the strong;
I will feed them with judgment.

For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost.

How think ye?
if a man have an hundred sheep,
and one of them be gone astray,
doth he not leave the ninety and nine,
and goeth into the mountains,
and seeketh that which is gone astray?
And if so be that he find it,
verily I say unto you,
he rejoiceth more of that sheep,
than of the ninety and nine which went not astray.
What man of you,
having an hundred sheep,
if he lose one of them,
doth not leave the ninety and nine in the wilderness,
and go after that which is lost,
until he find it?
And when he hath found it,
he layeth it on his shoulders,
rejoicing.
For
the Son of man
is come to seek
and to save that which was lost.
But
the
hour
cometh,
and now is,
when the true worshippers
shall worship the Father
in spirit and in truth:
for the Father seeketh
such to worship him.
And other
sheep I have,
which are not of
this fold: them also
I must bring, and they
shall hear my voice;
and there shall
be one fold,
and one
shepherd.
Thou
shalt no
more be
termed
Forsaken;
neither shall thy land any more be termed Desolate:
but thou shalt be called Hephzibah,
and thy land Beulah:
for the LORD delighteth in thee,
and thy land shall be married.
And I say also unto thee,
That thou art Peter,
and upon this rock I will build my church;
and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
Teaching them to observe all things
whatsoever I have commanded you:
and,
lo,
I am
with you
alway, even
unto the end
of the world.
Amen.
Let your
conversation
be without
covetousness;
and be content
with such things
as ye have: for he
hath said, I will
never leave thee,
nor forsake thee.


___
/uesday
/<night

On 11/26/03 7:23 AM, christopherjt at

wrote:


Your implications of your understanding are your own. What do you eat? Is
your own



http://www.google.co.nz/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&threadm=3F0AB22A.2952CE6C%40hotmail.com&rnum=1&prev=/groups%3Fsafe%3Dimages%26ie%3DISO-8859-1%26as_ugroup%3Dalt.bible%26as_usubject%3Dvegan%26as_uauthors%3Dchariot%2520%26lr%3D%26hl%3Den

Any one can be a vegan? Are you or aren't you? I AM that i am.



"Steve Knight" <wooly@onic.net> wrote in message
news:1is7svkn69klu32iqmkpm5p9lvad1p7kv5@4ax.com...

On 25 Nov 2003 15:15:21 -0800,


(Cannibals for Christ) wrote:


Since communion is a form of cannibalism, I think this would violate
the ethics of veganism.


Communion always gave me the creeps. Ever since the time I asked
this Catholic about it. I asked him why did they symbolically eat
their saviors body. He got pissed and said there was nothing
'symbolic' about it. It really was his flesh, in every sense of the
word

I said, 'does it taste like chicken?'

Then he storms off. Me and my conversation stoppers...

Warlord Steve
BAAWA
www.sonic.net/~wooly



.

User: "Tuesday Knight"

Title: Re: Can Catholics be Vegans? 03 Dec 2003 08:15:50 AM
I dunno. I always thought Abel was a bit of a suck up.
I have a question tho. Is there a Christian form of Tourettes?
Just asking cuz you seem kinna blurty and you didnt make much sense. Then
again, I wasnt really paying attention. I have Christian A.D.D.
___
/uesday
/<night
On 12/2/03 10:46 PM, David Chariot at
wrote:



Tuesday Knight wrote:

http://www.google.co.nz/groups?as_q=gospel%20peace&safe=images&ie=ISO-8859-1&a
s_ugroup=alt.christnet.christianlife&as_uauthors=chariot&as_drrb=b&as_mind=12&
as_minm=6&as_miny=1981&as_maxd=15&as_maxm=9&as_maxy=2003&lr=&hl=en

Um Frodo... Eyes up HERE....


Now, I have a question...

Why did Abel kill the Lamb? <> Revelation 13:8

http://www.google.co.nz/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&frame=right&th=17e6e3da8dabc
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Thy people
also shall be
all righteous:
they shall
inherit the
land for ever,
the branch
of my planting,
the work of
my hands,
that I
may be
glorified.
For thou art an holy people
unto the LORD thy God:
the LORD thy God
hath chosen
thee to be a special people
unto himself,
above all people
that are upon
the face of the earth.
And to make thee high
above all nations
which he hath made,
in praise,
and in name,
and in honour;
and that thou mayest be an holy people
unto the LORD thy God, as he hath spoken.
The LORD shall establish thee an holy people
unto himself, as he hath sworn unto thee, if
thou shalt keep the commandments of the LORD thy God,
and walk in his ways. But ye are a chosen generation,
a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people;
that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath
called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:

No lion
shall
be
there,
nor
any
ravenous
beast
shall
go
up
thereon,
it
shall
not
be
found
there;
but
the
redeemed
shall
walk
there:
Let
the
redeemed
of
the
LORD
say
so,
whom
he
hath
redeemed
from
the
hand
of
the
enemy;
Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible
things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received
by tradition from your fathers; But with the precious blood
of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot: And
they sung a new song,
saying,
Thou art worthy to take the book,
and to open the seals thereof:
for thou wast slain,
and hast redeemed us
to God by thy blood out of every kindred,
and tongue, and people, and nation;
I am sought of them that asked not for me;
I am found of them that sought me not:
I said,
Behold me,
behold me,
unto a nation
that was not called by my name.
For thus saith the Lord GOD;
Behold,
I, even I, will both search my sheep,
and seek them out.
As a shepherd seeketh out his flock
in the day
that he is among his sheep that are scattered;
so will I seek out my sheep,
and will deliver them out
of all places where
they have been scattered
in the cloudy and dark day.
And I will bring them out
from the people,
and gather them from the countries,
and will bring them to their own land,
and feed them upon the mountains of Israel
by the rivers,
and in all
the inhabited places of the country.
I will feed them in a good pasture,
and upon the high mountains
of Israel shall their
fold be: there
shall they
lie in a good fold,
and in a fat pasture
shall they feed
upon the
mountains
of Israel.
I will feed my flock,
and I will cause them to lie down,
saith the Lord GOD.
I will seek that which was lost,
and bring again that which was driven away,
and will bind up that which was broken,
and will strengthen that which was sick:
but I will destroy the fat and the strong;
I will feed them with judgment.

For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost.

How think ye?
if a man have an hundred sheep,
and one of them be gone astray,
doth he not leave the ninety and nine,
and goeth into the mountains,
and seeketh that which is gone astray?
And if so be that he find it,
verily I say unto you,
he rejoiceth more of that sheep,
than of the ninety and nine which went not astray.
What man of you,
having an hundred sheep,
if he lose one of them,
doth not leave the ninety and nine in the wilderness,
and go after that which is lost,
until he find it?
And when he hath found it,
he layeth it on his shoulders,
rejoicing.
For
the Son of man
is come to seek
and to save that which was lost.
But
the
hour
cometh,
and now is,
when the true worshippers
shall worship the Father
in spirit and in truth:
for the Father seeketh
such to worship him.
And other
sheep I have,
which are not of
this fold: them also
I must bring, and they
shall hear my voice;
and there shall
be one fold,
and one
shepherd.
Thou
shalt no
more be
termed
Forsaken;
neither shall thy land any more be termed Desolate:
but thou shalt be called Hephzibah,
and thy land Beulah:
for the LORD delighteth in thee,
and thy land shall be married.
And I say also unto thee,
That thou art Peter,
and upon this rock I will build my church;
and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
Teaching them to observe all things
whatsoever I have commanded you:
and,
lo,
I am
with you
alway, even
unto the end
of the world.
Amen.
Let your
conversation
be without
covetousness;
and be content
with such things
as ye have: for he
hath said, I will
never leave thee,
nor forsake thee.

___
/uesday
/<night

On 11/26/03 7:23 AM, christopherjt at

wrote:

Your implications of your understanding are your own. What do you eat? Is
your own


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Any one can be a vegan? Are you or aren't you? I AM that i am.


"Steve Knight" <wooly@onic.net> wrote in message
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On 25 Nov 2003 15:15:21 -0800,


(Cannibals for Christ) wrote:

Since communion is a form of cannibalism, I think this would violate
the ethics of veganism.


Communion always gave me the creeps. Ever since the time I asked
this Catholic about it. I asked him why did they symbolically eat
their saviors body. He got pissed and said there was nothing
'symbolic' about it. It really was his flesh, in every sense of the
word

I said, 'does it taste like chicken?'

Then he storms off. Me and my conversation stoppers...

Warlord Steve
BAAWA
www.sonic.net/~wooly



.
User: "Stupendous Man"

Title: Re: Can Catholics be Vegans? 03 Dec 2003 05:48:49 PM
"Tuesday Knight" <tuesday@hellmouthcentral.com> wrote in message
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I dunno. I always thought Abel was a bit of a suck up.

I have a question tho. Is there a Christian form of Tourettes?

Christianity is Tourettes.

Just asking cuz you seem kinna blurty and you didnt make much sense.

Then

again, I wasnt really paying attention. I have Christian A.D.D.
___
/uesday
/<night


On 12/2/03 10:46 PM, David Chariot at

wrote:



Tuesday Knight wrote:


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s_ugroup=alt.christnet.christianlife&as_uauthors=chariot&as_drrb=b&as_mi
nd=12&

as_minm=6&as_miny=1981&as_maxd=15&as_maxm=9&as_maxy=2003&lr=&hl=en

Um Frodo... Eyes up HERE....


Now, I have a question...

Why did Abel kill the Lamb? <> Revelation 13:8


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Thy people
also shall be
all righteous:
they shall
inherit the
land for ever,
the branch
of my planting,
the work of
my hands,
that I
may be
glorified.
For thou art an holy people
unto the LORD thy God:
the LORD thy God
hath chosen
thee to be a special people
unto himself,
above all people
that are upon
the face of the earth.
And to make thee high
above all nations
which he hath made,
in praise,
and in name,
and in honour;
and that thou mayest be an holy people
unto the LORD thy God, as he hath spoken.
The LORD shall establish thee an holy people
unto himself, as he hath sworn unto thee, if
thou shalt keep the commandments of the LORD thy God,
and walk in his ways. But ye are a chosen generation,
a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people;
that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath
called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:

No lion
shall
be
there,
nor
any
ravenous
beast
shall
go
up
thereon,
it
shall
not
be
found
there;
but
the
redeemed
shall
walk
there:
Let
the
redeemed
of
the
LORD
say
so,
whom
he
hath
redeemed
from
the
hand
of
the
enemy;
Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible
things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received
by tradition from your fathers; But with the precious blood
of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot: And
they sung a new song,
saying,
Thou art worthy to take the book,
and to open the seals thereof:
for thou wast slain,
and hast redeemed us
to God by thy blood out of every kindred,
and tongue, and people, and nation;
I am sought of them that asked not for me;
I am found of them that sought me not:
I said,
Behold me,
behold me,
unto a nation
that was not called by my name.
For thus saith the Lord GOD;
Behold,
I, even I, will both search my sheep,
and seek them out.
As a shepherd seeketh out his flock
in the day
that he is among his sheep that are scattered;
so will I seek out my sheep,
and will deliver them out
of all places where
they have been scattered
in the cloudy and dark day.
And I will bring them out
from the people,
and gather them from the countries,
and will bring them to their own land,
and feed them upon the mountains of Israel
by the rivers,
and in all
the inhabited places of the country.
I will feed them in a good pasture,
and upon the high mountains
of Israel shall their
fold be: there
shall they
lie in a good fold,
and in a fat pasture
shall they feed
upon the
mountains
of Israel.
I will feed my flock,
and I will cause them to lie down,
saith the Lord GOD.
I will seek that which was lost,
and bring again that which was driven away,
and will bind up that which was broken,
and will strengthen that which was sick:
but I will destroy the fat and the strong;
I will feed them with judgment.

For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost.

How think ye?
if a man have an hundred sheep,
and one of them be gone astray,
doth he not leave the ninety and nine,
and goeth into the mountains,
and seeketh that which is gone astray?
And if so be that he find it,
verily I say unto you,
he rejoiceth more of that sheep,
than of the ninety and nine which went not astray.
What man of you,
having an hundred sheep,
if he lose one of them,
doth not leave the ninety and nine in the wilderness,
and go after that which is lost,
until he find it?
And when he hath found it,
he layeth it on his shoulders,
rejoicing.
For
the Son of man
is come to seek
and to save that which was lost.
But
the
hour
cometh,
and now is,
when the true worshippers
shall worship the Father
in spirit and in truth:
for the Father seeketh
such to worship him.
And other
sheep I have,
which are not of
this fold: them also
I must bring, and they
shall hear my voice;
and there shall
be one fold,
and one
shepherd.
Thou
shalt no
more be
termed
Forsaken;
neither shall thy land any more be termed Desolate:
but thou shalt be called Hephzibah,
and thy land Beulah:
for the LORD delighteth in thee,
and thy land shall be married.
And I say also unto thee,
That thou art Peter,
and upon this rock I will build my church;
and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
Teaching them to observe all things
whatsoever I have commanded you:
and,
lo,
I am
with you
alway, even
unto the end
of the world.
Amen.
Let your
conversation
be without
covetousness;
and be content
with such things
as ye have: for he
hath said, I will
never leave thee,
nor forsake thee.

___
/uesday
/<night

On 11/26/03 7:23 AM, christopherjt at


wrote:


Your implications of your understanding are your own. What do you

eat? Is

your own



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Any one can be a vegan? Are you or aren't you? I AM that i am.


"Steve Knight" <wooly@onic.net> wrote in message
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On 25 Nov 2003 15:15:21 -0800,


(Cannibals for Christ) wrote:

Since communion is a form of cannibalism, I think this would

violate

the ethics of veganism.


Communion always gave me the creeps. Ever since the time I asked
this Catholic about it. I asked him why did they symbolically eat
their saviors body. He got pissed and said there was nothing
'symbolic' about it. It really was his flesh, in every sense of

the

word

I said, 'does it taste like chicken?'

Then he storms off. Me and my conversation stoppers...

Warlord Steve
BAAWA
www.sonic.net/~wooly




.

User: "zayton"

Title: Re: Can Catholics be Vegans? 03 Dec 2003 09:57:55 AM
"Tuesday Knight" <tuesday@hellmouthcentral.com> wrote in message
news:BBF35A45.57689%tuesday@hellmouthcentral.com...

I dunno. I always thought Abel was a bit of a suck up.

I have a question tho. Is there a Christian form of Tourettes?

Yes. It's called "evangellism".
Joe
.
User: "Tuesday Knight"

Title: Re: Can Catholics be Vegans? 03 Dec 2003 11:34:23 AM
On 12/3/03 10:57 AM, zayton at
wrote:


"Tuesday Knight" <tuesday@hellmouthcentral.com> wrote in message
news:BBF35A45.57689%tuesday@hellmouthcentral.com...

I dunno. I always thought Abel was a bit of a suck up.

I have a question tho. Is there a Christian form of Tourettes?


Yes. It's called "evangellism".

Joe


(best Ron Weasley voice)
Bloody scary, that is.
___
/uesday
/<night
.


User: "David Chariot"

Title: Re: Can Catholics be Vegans? 03 Dec 2003 05:00:20 PM
Tuesday Knight wrote:


I dunno. I always thought Abel was a bit of a suck up.

I have a question tho. Is there a Christian form of Tourettes?

Just asking cuz you seem kinna blurty and you didnt make much sense. Then
again, I wasnt really paying attention. I have Christian A.D.D.
___
/uesday
/<night

You must give a little to gain the lot.
Research helps where you lose the plot.
Peace be with you.
.
User: "Tuesday Knight"

Title: Re: Can Catholics be Vegans? 04 Dec 2003 10:22:37 AM
Dont want the lot, my dear sweet Dave.
Theres naught to give, no soul to save!
I do not want it... here... or now
I do not want it, any how!
Ive researched all I care to do
So here! I give the lot to YOU!
You keep the lot, I say...
Gee whiz!
Theres no more room under my bed
as it is.
___
/uesday
/<night (tho theres still room in my closet...hrm.....)
On 12/3/03 6:00 PM, David Chariot at
wrote:



Tuesday Knight wrote:


I dunno. I always thought Abel was a bit of a suck up.

I have a question tho. Is there a Christian form of Tourettes?

Just asking cuz you seem kinna blurty and you didnt make much sense. Then
again, I wasnt really paying attention. I have Christian A.D.D.
___
/uesday
/<night


You must give a little to gain the lot.
Research helps where you lose the plot.

Peace be with you.

.
User: "Vera Six"

Title: Re: Can Catholics be Vegans? 04 Dec 2003 01:15:33 PM
Would you please stop cross-posting?
Thanks in advance.
V.S.
"Tuesday Knight" <tuesday@hellmouthcentral.com>
.
User: "Tuesday Knight"

Title: Re: Can Catholics be Vegans? 04 Dec 2003 02:34:45 PM
Oh....gee, did I cross-post?
Sorry.
Didnt care.
Mainly cuz you crossposted to tell us not to crosspost. Kinna hypocritical
and all controlly, huh? Now, some people will prolly crosspost just to tink
your winkie.
Some people are mean like that.
Mostly cuz its funny to watch your face get all red. Not that Id do that or
anything. But I would laugh if it happened.
___
/uesday
/<night
On 12/4/03 2:15 PM, Vera Six at
wrote:

Would you please stop cross-posting?

Thanks in advance.

V.S.


"Tuesday Knight" <tuesday@hellmouthcentral.com>


.
User: "Phoenix"

Title: Re: Can Catholics be Vegans? 04 Dec 2003 02:47:00 PM
"Tuesday Knight" <tuesday@hellmouthcentral.com> wrote in message
news:BBF50494.5782D%tuesday@hellmouthcentral.com...

Oh....gee, did I cross-post?

Sorry.

Didnt care.

Mainly cuz you crossposted to tell us not to crosspost. Kinna

hypocritical

and all controlly, huh? Now, some people will prolly crosspost just to

tink

your winkie.

Some people are mean like that.

Mostly cuz its funny to watch your face get all red. Not that Id do

that or

anything. But I would laugh if it happened.

____
__( )__
(o) ,, (o)
o======Oo
hehehee... yeah.. I'd laff too...
P
___

/uesday
/<night





On 12/4/03 2:15 PM, Vera Six at

wrote:

Would you please stop cross-posting?

Thanks in advance.

V.S.


"Tuesday Knight" <tuesday@hellmouthcentral.com>



.




User: "Vera Six"

Title: Re: Can Catholics be Vegans? 04 Dec 2003 01:36:02 PM
Please stop cross-posting.
Thanks in advance.
V.S.
"David Chariot" <david_chariot@xtra.co.nz>
.
User: "Jonathan Ball"

Title: Re: Can Catholics be Vegans? 04 Dec 2003 01:43:20 PM
Vera Six wrote:

Please stop cross-posting.

Stop dictating to people.
.







User: "Spammers Blow"

Title: Re: Can Catholics be Vegans? 03 Dec 2003 12:47:47 AM
You're an *****.
And yes they can. Transubstantiation is not cannibalism.
On 25 Nov 2003 15:15:21 -0800,

(Cannibals for Christ) wrote:

Since communion is a form of cannibalism, I think this would violate
the ethics of veganism.

.
User: "Misty"

Title: Re: Can Catholics be Vegans? 03 Dec 2003 02:10:25 AM
...
Spammers Blow wrote:

You're an *****.

And yes they can. Transubstantiation is not cannibalism.


On 25 Nov 2003 15:15:21 -0800,


(Cannibals for Christ) wrote:


Since communion is a form of cannibalism, I think this would violate
the ethics of veganism.



.


User: "David Chariot"

Title: Re: Can Catholics be Vegans? 25 Nov 2003 08:26:02 PM
http://www.google.co.nz/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&threadm=3F0AB22A.2952CE6C%
40hotmail.com&rnum=1&prev=/groups%3Fhl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DISO-8859-1%26scor
ing%3Dr%26as_drrb%3Dq%26q%3Dvegan%2Bgroup%253Aalt.bible%2Bauthor%253Achariot
%26btnG%3DGoogle%2BSearch
Wow! all that is just one link!
Hey, just a thought about the importance of Transition of Diet.
Perhaps you could add something?
Isn't there a scripture about purifying your heart somewhere?
As for me...
Dietary Goal Setting - Towards Fruitarianism
.


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